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Yong Ji Yong Ji
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Posted by Yong Ji Yong Ji > Mar 24, 2017 12:18 PM | Report Abuse

Cut loss , don't blame anyone ,,trade ur own risk,fundamentals as well ,short term drop or up we cannot predict ,time would tell u everything


Dolly_Chai2
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Posted by Dolly_Chai2 > Mar 24, 2017 12:29 PM | Report Abuse

haha... another loser Cut_losss came out... this is also a short-term speculator who wishes to make a lot of profit within a short period of time....

in this case, please go to Genting Highland to bet.. you do not understand value investing and stop wasting ur time and money here...

we are looking at a relatively longer term for the share to finally reflect its intrinsic value...


Dolly_Chai2
311 posts

Posted by Dolly_Chai2 > Mar 24, 2017 12:30 PM | Report Abuse

well said Yong... we know what we are doing.. short-term fluctuation of share price does not mean anything to us if we understand the company well


Dolly_Chai2
311 posts

Posted by Dolly_Chai2 > Mar 24, 2017 12:31 PM | Report Abuse

this Cut_losss only has one comment (check his history) so probably he is a new ID created by that loser sxckperformer to create hatred and fear in this share... which is a total nonsense


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Mar 24, 2017 12:37 PM | Report Abuse

We are longer term investor...not short term trader...if u had bought evergreen and lose monies following us that is too bad loh...!!

U need have patience like raider and give time for evergreen to show its true ability mah.....!!

As a long investors, we can only assure u to buy at a undervalue margin of safety price with improving prospect....the rest is to wait for mkt rerating....when evergreen start to show improving strong growth loh...!!

If people cannot wait & cut loss...it is too bad....loh...evergreen is not meant for u loh....!!


Cut_losss
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Posted by Cut_losss > Mar 24, 2017 02:42 PM | Report Abuse

If i am star i will not hold back scold u. U still want us thank u for bring us 2 holland?


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Mar 24, 2017 03:03 PM | Report Abuse

U lose little bit....bcos u have no patience....u should thank your lucky star loh....!!

No one point a gun ask u to buy loh....!!
In addition we don ask u to sell....so what is ur problem leh ?


Yong Ji Yong Ji
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Posted by Yong Ji Yong Ji > Mar 24, 2017 04:01 PM | Report Abuse

Cutloss Put ur money in fd as well,no need blame anyone ...trade market is no suit for u


Yong Ji Yong Ji
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Posted by Yong Ji Yong Ji > Mar 24, 2017 04:17 PM | Report Abuse

Cutloss go find Koon bee sifu he can help u ^^


jackng06
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Posted by jackng06 > Mar 24, 2017 05:19 PM | Report Abuse

Well who had jump from evergreen to Hevea, now 1.42 from 1.5, drop liao lo Mr debts, still ask us eat banana with u? Don't so selfish, don't ask ppl jump to cut loss and then loss again, hevea drop dao 1.42, still ask us jump, die with u meh


jackng06
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Posted by jackng06 > Mar 24, 2017 05:20 PM | Report Abuse

Don't so selfish Mr debts


Mike Jcy
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Posted by Mike Jcy > Mar 25, 2017 10:10 AM | Report Abuse

Stop argue n all jump in TNLOGIS... haha


nonames
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Posted by nonames > Mar 25, 2017 10:56 PM | Report Abuse

Support point 0.85..


moneykj
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Posted by moneykj > Mar 26, 2017 10:54 AM | Report Abuse

One of the most pity counters in bursa. Price bottom out redy but need consolidate for months. Not his turn yet. Go to penny stocks to get some excitement, next week pls check on Digistar.


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Mar 26, 2017 11:13 AM | Report Abuse

Simple Fundamental Approach on Value Investing

Author: Mohamad Jeffrey Ismail | Publish date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 12:53 AM

Before deciding to buy any stock, an investor should at first examine the entire business by getting necessary information about the fundamental aspect of the business, doing complete analysis, and finally arriving at valuation.

Of course by doing good examining the business, it does minimize the risk (chances of permanent loss of capital) of our investment. The more you understand the business, the lower the risk you would take, thus the better the potential return you could make.

In order to do that, value investors need an investment process that he should follow during examining any company he would like to invest.

Step 1 : Determine the suitable business

As point of starting, value investor usually looking for the area that he familiar with, or we called circle of competence. For example, it is much more hard for an oil and gas engineer to understand a pharmaceutical business rather than he could understand the business of an oil company. So it is better to stay within our circle of competence rather than walk outside of it, think as if we can undertand the business well.

Step 2 : Getting neccessary information

The next step is to get necessary information for further analysis of the business. This information might be found mainly on company annual report and through out research. Lacking of necessary information make analysing process become difficult so as valuation process.

Step 3 : Analysing and interpreting data

This includes analysis of company financial data, economic moat analysis, prospect and company risk analysis as well. It is important to know the real strength behind a company which often called competitive advantage that distinguish great companies with those mediocre one. Without making proper analysis, valuation process might becoming much more hard for investors.
Step 4 : Valuing the business

A value investor tend to buy quality stock at a cheaper price. It is the main objectives of value investors. Therefore, after doing analysis over the fundamental part of the business, calculation of intrisic value is made using models, such as Discounted Cash Flow (DCF), Dividend Discount Model (DDM), Earning Power Valuation (EPV), and so on. It is hard to value a company without good earning predictability. Thus, valuing a stable busines with enough size of economic moat will be much more easy than a small high growth company.
Step 5 : Applying margin of safety

Another powerful tools for value investor is margin of safety, which was introduced by Benjamin Graham in its book, The Intelligent Investor. It is simply a gap between stock price and intrinsic value. The larger the gap, the better it is. in term of risk and future return. According to Ben Graham, the rule of this margin of safety is to eliminate the error made during calculation of intrinsic value.
Conclusion

It is the basic of investment process for many retail investor who'd practising value investing. Value investors believe finding a good quality company trade at cheap price is the best way of making money in stock market investment.


moneykj
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Posted by moneykj > Mar 26, 2017 02:06 PM | Report Abuse

Agree with you stockraider, but as investor we must find way to buy at right price and time to maximize our earning. Beside FA, TA is equally important. And we need to catch the sign that operator is loading or unloading. No doubt current price is low enough, can start to collect. But the timing is not right yet.


moneykj
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Posted by moneykj > Mar 26, 2017 03:14 PM | Report Abuse

I mean not right timing for me yet. I don't mind buy higher 5 cents if he is ready to move.


CUTLOST
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Posted by CUTLOST > Mar 27, 2017 11:52 AM | Report Abuse

Waiting this stock is just wasting my time..better CUTLOST and GET LOST Make me feeling better..haha


Dolly_Chai2
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Posted by Dolly_Chai2 > Mar 27, 2017 12:23 PM | Report Abuse

moneykj... what you said is absolutely right... but let me ask you one question:

Can you time exactly when the price will start moving up?

Based on TA? if TA is so accurate, no one will ever learn FA...

FA should always come before TA... FA is a necessity, TA is only an option.

You can buy share without using TA, but you can't buy share without looking at FA.

why? I already mentioned above... u can't time the share price performance.. only GOD knows...

but buying into a fundamentally strong share is definitely more secured... coz u can sleep well at nights... it is just a matter of time for it to go up to its real value... 1 year, maybe... but ask yourself, why cant you wait for 1 year for such a fundamentally sound share?


Dolly_Chai2
311 posts

Posted by Dolly_Chai2 > Mar 27, 2017 12:25 PM | Report Abuse

when Airasia dropped to 70+sen... everyone was selling... but look at its price today...

let me tell you what.. i started accumulating airasia around 90sen to RM1.00 and until today, i have not even sold a single share yet.. coz I know it has not reached its real intrinsic value yet...


Jon Choivo
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Posted by Jon Choivo > Mar 27, 2017 12:27 PM | Report Abuse

Well said dolly.


Yong Ji Yong Ji
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Posted by Yong Ji Yong Ji > Mar 27, 2017 02:23 PM | Report Abuse

Dolly 1000like for u


Yong Ji Yong Ji
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Posted by Yong Ji Yong Ji > Mar 27, 2017 02:24 PM | Report Abuse

And congratulations for who is holdling aa from 0.7 till now


Dolly_Chai2
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Posted by Dolly_Chai2 > Mar 27, 2017 04:11 PM | Report Abuse

thanks guys... i am just telling the real facts... EVERGREEN may not be a good choice for those short-term traders/speculators...


CUTLOST
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Posted by CUTLOST > Mar 27, 2017 04:48 PM | Report Abuse

725 coming soon


Mags
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Posted by Mags > Mar 28, 2017 12:02 AM | Report Abuse

Whether is short term long term that's not the right way to convince others to wait like a dumb fxxk like you knowing Evergrn going from bad to worst causing others to lose opportunity on other counter. You are having illusion don't lead others into your illusion. In stock market whether investing or speculate short term long term is still voice down to 2 side of a coin. Either you follow the winner or you go with the losers. In this case Dolly you should follow Starperformer. You can say Starperformer is a kiasu idiot cause a lot of havoc in Evergn forum but as the saying goes whether a black cat or white cat whichever cat catches the mouse is a Good Cat. Indeed Starperformer is a Black cat bur he catches the mouse weh. Starperformer you are a good cat in Bursa.


Skliew
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Posted by Skliew > Mar 28, 2017 05:05 AM | Report Abuse

Stockholder sifu, why didn't see you in FLB forum recently?


sreydc
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Posted by sreydc > Mar 28, 2017 08:44 AM | Report Abuse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-7IHOXkiV8


Dolly_Chai2
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Posted by Dolly_Chai2 > Mar 28, 2017 08:56 AM | Report Abuse

Mags, how do u know i am not a black or white cat? haha...
how do you know sxckperformer is a white or black cat?
He could be just a rat!!


Dolly_Chai2
311 posts

Posted by Dolly_Chai2 > Mar 28, 2017 08:58 AM | Report Abuse

if you know me in person, you will know how my investment performance is...


Dolly_Chai2
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Posted by Dolly_Chai2 > Mar 28, 2017 12:54 PM | Report Abuse

you guys know why that loser sxckperformer has been so quiet recently?

i just checked his status:

Due to repeated abuse posts, this account has been suspended from posting to the i3investor portal until 31/03/2017. Please refer to the Terms and Conditions of Use and Community Standards of this portal.


Dolly_Chai2
311 posts

Posted by Dolly_Chai2 > Mar 28, 2017 12:55 PM | Report Abuse

haha.... serve him right... keep on manipulating his words for his own agenda (to promote Hevea)...

all statements given by him are misleading and manipulated...

serve him right!!!


annoyed1
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Posted by annoyed1 > Mar 28, 2017 02:18 PM | Report Abuse

dolly, justice is served !! now we can all focus on the bigger picture properly w/o this guy's nonsense everyday.


Dolly_Chai2
311 posts

Posted by Dolly_Chai2 > Mar 28, 2017 02:22 PM | Report Abuse

haha... annoyed1.. i hope these few days you can enjoy yourself and not be annoyed by that loser...

i am quite certain that after his ban period, he will come out to bark again like a mad dxg...

so before that comes, let's enjoy our fresh air and sound-pollution free ambient... haha

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