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Warn3r
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Posted by Warn3r > Apr 9, 2018 09:22 AM | Report Abuse

STC, you are upsetting many ppl because your arguments have been baseless. You still have not explained how broader tariff on other items could make steel cheaper. If you’re coming from macroeconomics focusing on the general damage it’d bring to general business environment then why are you targeting just steel?

We have 2 more years of safeguard duty on imported rebar, 12+% until 13 April 2019 followed by 11+% until 13 April 2020. What are you talking about when you said local steel price need to follow international price?

US tariff on steel was implemented since 23 or 24 March, China steel spot and futures prices have dropped but has since stabilized. And latest Miti report and ppl who dealt with steel mills directly also said the demand and prices are still going strong.

The sentiment is clearly bad, I will give you that. But starting stories about how further tariff will definitely cause steel price to crash is a bit too much. Especially when you can’t explain any mechanism or thoughts behind that statement. Worse still, making predictions about how price will go, again based on nothing.

Objectively speaking, when the tariff is determined but the local price is still intact, with China steel price stabilizing and making a turn upwards as spring comes, the opportunity actually outweighs the risk, especially at this price point. But I won’t go promote or ask ppl to jump in without understanding the underlying risk.

I think you really should post responsibly, or just stop entirely.


investoroem
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Posted by investoroem > Apr 9, 2018 10:46 AM | Report Abuse

Well said Warn3r


ming
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Posted by ming > Apr 9, 2018 10:55 AM | Report Abuse

he will disappear until price drop again..


vinc3nt
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Posted by vinc3nt > Apr 9, 2018 12:42 PM | Report Abuse

yea 1.63 matched


hentara
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Posted by hentara > Apr 9, 2018 07:23 PM | Report Abuse

STC1136, please appear and explain why Ssteel didn't drop below RM 1.60?


Bull333
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Posted by Bull333 > Apr 9, 2018 10:57 PM | Report Abuse

ssteel limited downside unlimited upside...sharks all collecting...coming qr will be even better for sure


hentara
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Posted by hentara > Apr 10, 2018 10:35 AM | Report Abuse

Where are you, STC1136? Be a man!


richdad_88
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Posted by richdad_88 > Apr 10, 2018 10:46 AM | Report Abuse

he went hiding in a cave, LOL


Warn3r
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Posted by Warn3r > Apr 10, 2018 10:46 AM | Report Abuse

Hentara, you seem confused. Have you forgotten that you were at the same side as STC?


vinc3nt
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Posted by vinc3nt > Apr 10, 2018 10:53 AM | Report Abuse

wow lucky i bought yesterday


hentara
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Posted by hentara > Apr 10, 2018 12:05 PM | Report Abuse

Warn3r, please show prove.


hentara
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Posted by hentara > Apr 10, 2018 12:05 PM | Report Abuse

Come out STC1136! Please explain why Ssteel didn't drop below RM 1.60?


Warn3r
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Posted by Warn3r > Apr 10, 2018 03:17 PM | Report Abuse

hentara Steel guru followers must be sitting deep loss now. You guys balls are squeezed hard by him. Don't give up, guys. Your capital still have chance to recover in next 10 years.
26/03/2018 12:14

hentara Guys, don't give up and end your life. Good life is still ahead of you even-though your balls are squeezed hard by steel guru.
26/03/2018 12:23

hentara Gentlemen, one your ball had been squeezed hard by steel guru. Don't let the other ball fall into steel guru's hand.
02/04/2018 21:50

hentara You have been given the second chance now. Remember to cherish and cut loss to protect your hard-earned capital.
02/04/2018 21:50

hentara Congratulation to those who cut lose this morning. You guys are really awesome. You have protected your other ball from falling into steel guru's hand. Well done, guys!
03/04/2018 19:12

Aren’t you in the same boat as him? Why are you bugging him?


hentara
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Posted by hentara > Apr 10, 2018 04:11 PM | Report Abuse

Warn3r, you have difficulty in understanding statement?


hentara
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Posted by hentara > Apr 10, 2018 04:14 PM | Report Abuse

hng33, your chance to earn handsome contra profit has come.


Warn3r
315 posts

Posted by Warn3r > Apr 10, 2018 06:21 PM | Report Abuse

hentara, my mind and conscience are clear. Don’t think you can say the same.

What you wrote reflects your personality. Sick.


hentara
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Posted by hentara > Apr 10, 2018 06:31 PM | Report Abuse

Warn3r, none of your business.


hentara
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Posted by hentara > Apr 10, 2018 07:40 PM | Report Abuse

STC1136, I am still waiting you to give the reason why Ssteel didnt drop below RM 1.60 yesterday.


hentara
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Posted by hentara > Apr 10, 2018 08:26 PM | Report Abuse

STC1136, don't be turtle.


Warn3r
315 posts

Posted by Warn3r > Apr 10, 2018 09:08 PM | Report Abuse

How do you decide whether it’s my business? And after that, answer me, who are you to decide whether it’s my business?

I have a lot of respect for those people who share their research, thoughts and experience in the steel sector, or any sector for that matter. It’s not because it provides a chance to make money. But rather, in doing so, they’re cultivating a culture that brings us closer together as a community that is constructive, selfless and resourceful. This forms the very foundation on which we can debate and challenge each other healthily, and learn to think, assess scenarios / situations, qualitatively and quantitatively.

Personally, they helped me a lot. Even during bad times such as this, they help me to build a stronger character and make my purpose in investment clearer. They planted a positive seed in me, without either of us knowing the other personally.

None of them proclaimed themselves as guru. The respect was earned. They shared their views and research, not tips. We have our own responsibilities to filter, understand, digest and decide if we agree with their views. We are fully responsible for our own actions.

In your posts, you portrayed them as victimizer. And people who bought in are forced in, and that they are incapable and more importantly, holds no responsibility in their own decisions. The subliminal message is wrong at so many levels.

Every word and action you take causes a ripple effect, matters not whether it took place behind a keyboard. You have the power to shape yourself to be an inspiring person who lift people up during tough times, or you can choose to be a dickhead that you are now.

It affects yourself the most, each time you say or do something, you re-enforce it to become a larger part of you. In the end, you sow what you reap and you become what you practice.

A famous quote for you. It’s a tough path but it’s worth it.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.
The time is always right to do what is right.


probability
7428 posts

Posted by probability > Apr 10, 2018 09:14 PM | Report Abuse

Warn3r...nice to hear such messages. Kindly share who are these sifus sharing some useful informations...



Posted by Warn3r > Apr 10, 2018 09:08 PM | Report Abuse

How do you decide whether it’s my business? And after that, answer me, who are you to decide whether it’s my business?

I have a lot of respect for those people who share their research, thoughts and experience in the steel sector, or any sector for that matter. It’s not because it provides a chance to make money. But rather, in doing so, they’re cultivating a culture that brings us closer together as a community that is constructive, selfless and resourceful. This forms the very foundation on which we can debate and challenge each other healthily, and learn to think, assess scenarios / situations, qualitatively and quantitatively.

Personally, they helped me a lot. Even during bad times such as this, they help me to build a stronger character and make my purpose in investment clearer. They planted a positive seed in me, without either of us knowing the other personally.

None of them proclaimed themselves as guru. The respect was earned. They shared their views and research, not tips. We have our own responsibilities to filter, understand, digest and decide if we agree with their views. We are fully responsible for our own actions.

In your posts, you portrayed them as victimizer. And people who bought in are forced in, and that they are incapable and more importantly, holds no responsibility in their own decisions. The subliminal message is wrong at so many levels.

Every word and action you take causes a ripple effect, matters not whether it took place behind a keyboard. You have the power to shape yourself to be an inspiring person who lift people up during tough times, or you can choose to be a dickhead that you are now.

It affects yourself the most, each time you say or do something, you re-enforce it to become a larger part of you. In the end, you sow what you reap and you become what you practice.

A famous quote for you. It’s a tough path but it’s worth it.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.
The time is always right to do what is right.


hentara
60 posts

Posted by hentara > Apr 10, 2018 09:58 PM | Report Abuse

Warn3r, now I know you have difficulty in understanding statement. My personality and character are none of your business. Hope you can understand this statement.


hentara
60 posts

Posted by hentara > Apr 10, 2018 10:17 PM | Report Abuse

What I wrote is none of your business also, right?


Bull333
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Posted by Bull333 > Apr 11, 2018 01:21 AM | Report Abuse

engine start tml will continue fly all the way to min 2.5 then break to 3


Warn3r
315 posts

Posted by Warn3r > Apr 11, 2018 09:21 AM | Report Abuse

hentara, you are correct that your character and personality are none of my business. But what you write and do, which are more often than not, products of your values, beliefs and character, can be my business, depending on their nature.

There are some very wrong values in you that have deep roots in you. You may be fed these one-liner immoral non-logic growing up, but now as an adult, what is your excuse for not being able to think for yourself what is right.

When I provided you the proof you asked for. There was a long trail of posts from you, mostly demeaning guru’s and their followers. Is it your business what these steel guru’s do or say and is it your business whether others are making huge profit or loss? So why are you telling me to stop commenting on your character or personality? Aren’t you contradicting yourself?

Back to your questions again. Let me throw in a couple more questions to make it easier for you. When someone grop a minor in a bus, it it none of our business? When someone is robbed, is it none of our business?

It has always been our social responsibilities. Those who walk away are immoral and selfish. Criminals like to create a safe space for themselves by dividing the people up so their target becomes helpless, one of the most common but effective way is to convince others that it’s none of their business. It works most of the time because this argument sits well for simple-minded and selfish ppl.

There really is no excuse for you to behave like a juvenile.


STC1136
976 posts

Posted by STC1136 > Apr 11, 2018 03:47 PM | Report Abuse

生意社04月11日讯
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  联合钢铁炼铁工程包含2座1080立方米高炉,是目前马来西亚容积最大、工艺最先进的高炉。高炉项目采用了中冶赛迪具有自主知识产权的新型无料钟炉顶控制关键技术、顶燃式热风炉技术、炉缸、炉身长寿技术、紧凑式“一罐制”铁水运输工艺技术、联合出铁场设计技术、高效底滤法水渣处理技术等,保证高炉系统稳定、高效、低耗、绿色、智能化生产。

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  马来西亚联合钢铁项目是国家“一带一路”倡议的重点项目,也是国际产能创新合作的示范性项目,炼铁单元作为本项目最核心的单元,1号高炉的成功点火烘炉拉开了全厂贯通投产的序幕,也标志着国家“一带一路”倡议即将在马来西亚迎来收获期。


hentara
60 posts

Posted by hentara > Apr 11, 2018 04:39 PM | Report Abuse

Warn3r, thought you wrote none of them proclaimed themselves as guru. Then who is steel guru and followers? Who? Who? Who? Who was demeaned?

Have difficulty in understanding your own statement as well?


hentara
60 posts

Posted by hentara > Apr 11, 2018 04:41 PM | Report Abuse

STC1136 appears finally.


hentara
60 posts

Posted by hentara > Apr 11, 2018 04:58 PM | Report Abuse

Since Warn3r has difficulty in understanding my statement, I sacrifice some of my time to explain.

Warn3r hentara, my mind and conscience are clear. Don’t think you can say the same.

What you wrote reflects your personality. Sick.
10/04/2018 18:21

hentara Warn3r, none of your business.
10/04/2018 18:31

This statement is very clear. My personality is none of your business.


hentara
60 posts

Posted by hentara > Apr 11, 2018 05:00 PM | Report Abuse

Since Warn3r has difficulty in understanding my statement, again, I sacrifice some of my time to explain.

Warn3r Hentara, you seem confused. Have you forgotten that you were at the same side as STC?
10/04/2018 10:46

hentara Warn3r, please show prove.
10/04/2018 12:05

This statement asking you to show prove that I am at the same side as STC.


Warn3r
315 posts

Posted by Warn3r > Apr 12, 2018 07:26 AM | Report Abuse

hentara, they didn’t call themselves guru, you did, and I can also call them guru if I like. Where’s the contradiction?

You don’t only have a sick mind, but also a very low IQ. That’s still okay but your character unabled you from debating as an adult.


Warn3r
315 posts

Posted by Warn3r > Apr 12, 2018 07:28 AM | Report Abuse

Do and say as you like. I really tried to reason with you. I will stop here because I really cannot go down to your level to argue like kids with no flow of logic whatsoever.


Yael Jasper
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Posted by Yael Jasper > Apr 12, 2018 05:08 PM | Report Abuse

please show prove.


hentara
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Posted by hentara > Apr 12, 2018 08:40 PM | Report Abuse

Warn3r, never ever ask you to argue with me.


edward123
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Posted by edward123 > Apr 13, 2018 05:21 PM | Report Abuse

Dear All Bros, Harmony Breed Wealth


Warn3r
315 posts

Posted by Warn3r > Apr 17, 2018 09:33 AM | Report Abuse

Yes Edward bro. I just couldn’t bear him bad-mouthing others. I really need to learn your 心胸. Hope you’re doing well.


Jessie Ng
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Posted by Jessie Ng > Apr 17, 2018 10:02 AM | Report Abuse

yes


abcde12345
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Posted by abcde12345 > Apr 17, 2018 10:30 AM | Report Abuse

no no no


nicky11
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Posted by nicky11 > Apr 17, 2018 10:31 AM | Report Abuse

just stay calm and patient.. Last year QR was released on 27th Apr. This year seems coming soon too.


LimKL1
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Posted by LimKL1 > Apr 17, 2018 10:38 AM | Report Abuse

也是!


tkk1127
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Posted by tkk1127 > Apr 17, 2018 10:54 AM | Report Abuse

Southern Steel Bhd has appointed Datuk Ahmad Johari Abdul Razak as an independent and non-executive director, effective today.

Meanwhile, Soon Seong Keat, who previously held a non-independent, non-executive directorship, has resigned “after taking into consideration the provisions of the Malaysian Code on Corporate Governance,” the group said in a filing with Bursa Malaysia today.

Ahmad Johari, 63, who is Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s brother, is currently an executive director of Ancom Bhd, an investment holding company that provides services to the agricultural and industrial chemicals industry, polymer production and logistics, among others.

He is also the independent and non-executive chairman of Daiman Development Bhd and sits on the board of Daiman Golf Bhd.


nicky11
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Posted by nicky11 > Apr 17, 2018 11:59 AM | Report Abuse

Lolz, brother of PM. So next time government project will take more steel from ssteel?


jeff619
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Posted by jeff619 > Apr 17, 2018 12:40 PM | Report Abuse

Southern Steel Bhd has appointed Datuk Ahmad Johari Abdul Razak as an independent and non-executive director, effective today.

Meanwhile, Soon Seong Keat, who previously held a non-independent, non-executive directorship, has resigned “after taking into consideration the provisions of the Malaysian Code on Corporate Governance,” the group said in a filing with Bursa Malaysia today.

Ahmad Johari, 63, who is Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s brother, is currently an executive director of Ancom Bhd, an investment holding company that provides services to the agricultural and industrial chemicals industry, polymer production and logistics, among others.


kwai
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Posted by kwai > Apr 17, 2018 03:45 PM | Report Abuse

Hi,

Does anyone capture the performance of 16/4/2018 Bursa Malaysia:

Total Gainer:
Total Loser:
Total Unchanged:
Index:


Thanks guys


Yael Jasper
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Posted by Yael Jasper > Apr 17, 2018 05:25 PM | Report Abuse

good

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