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Most of breakthrough infections that lead to ICU admission in Malaysia were among Sinovac recipients

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KUALA LUMPUR: Most of the breakthrough infections that led to Intensive Care Unit (ICU) admission and fatalities occurred among Sinovac vaccine recipients, a Health Ministry study revealed today.

While 0.011 per cent of Sinovac vaccine recipients required treatment at ICU after developing breakthrough infections, the study found only 0.002 per cent of Pfizer vaccine recipients and 0.001 per cent of AstraZeneca vaccine recipients with similar conditions were admitted to ICU wards.

Institute for Clinical Research (ICR) director Dr Kalaiarasu Peariasamy said the study also found that the country's breakthrough infection rate stood at 1.30 cases for every 100 people.

The study, called the Real-World Evaluation of Covid-19 Vaccines under the Malaysia National Covid-19 Immunisation Programme (RECoVaM), involved 14,500,984 fully vaccinated individuals and was jointly undertaken by ICR and the Covid-19 Immunisation Task Force (CITF) between April 1 to Sept 12. 

Dr Kalaiarasu said the rate of breakthrough infections increased with each day, starting from the day an individual completes both vaccine doses.

"Half of the breakthrough infections occurred within the first 30 days (after full vaccination). The infectivity rate was recorded between 5.20 and 5.30 per cent within 120 days after full vaccination.

"However, the overall rate of breakthrough infections in the country is very low and this demonstrates the effectiveness of Covid-19 vaccines," he said, during a media engagement session by seven health experts from the Health Ministry on vaccine effectiveness and adolescent vaccination.

Irrespective of the vaccine brand, the RECoVaM study also found that overall ICU admission rate among fully vaccinated individuals stood at 0.0066 per cent while the overall mortality rate among them stood at 0.010 per cent.

Dr Kalaiarasu said complete vaccination can reduce the risk of ICU admission by 83 per cent and lower the risk of death due to the virus by 88 per cent.

"Complete vaccinations can reduce one intensive care unit (ICU) admission for every 67 persons infected with Covid-19, and one death for every 97 individuals who get infected," he added.

 

https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2021/09/730103/most-breakthrough-infections-lead-icu-admission-malaysia-were-among

 

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DickyMe4 one death for every 97 individuals

That's nearly 1%.

So, 1% of 32 million will be 320,000 deaths after full vaccination?

Therefore it is not the virus that kills but vaccine?
23/09/2021 9:13 PM
Starship2 He said current stats show that there is one death for every 97 persons infected..

So the focus is only on infected person who form a very small number in the country..so the number of deaths is not 320,000...good to sit back,think, reflect, relook and decide before giving views...this will reduce giving the wrong "info" to unsuspecting people....
24/09/2021 12:57 PM
DickyMe4 It is not wrong info.

It is mathematical reasoning.

Perhaps minute detail of "n of infected" was overlooked.

Therefore, don't be jittery and raise hell.
24/09/2021 1:02 PM
Starship2 I said it is wrong to assume that all 32 million people in malaysia will be invested..and 1% of them would die..a wrong is a wrong. I will leave it here
24/09/2021 1:13 PM
ahbah "Half of the breakthrough infections occurred within the first 30 days (after full vaccination).

The infectivity rate was recorded between 5.20 and 5.30 per cent within 120 days after full vaccination. "

Stay at home for 30 days after the 2nd dose to reduce the breakthru infections by

50% ?
24/09/2021 1:15 PM
MuttsInvestor Are they FRONT line workers wit. etc ?h bad mask.. Potective equipment and lousy
24/09/2021 1:16 PM
MuttsInvestor hey.... did Pharmanagia supply these Sinovac vaccines ?
24/09/2021 1:18 PM
henry888 I opine the statistics of percentage breakthrough infections may not be correct in consideration of the total numbers of vaccinated Malaysians under Sinovac, Pfizer and Astra Zeneca. If not mistaken Astra Zeneca has the lowest numbers of vaccinated Malaysians. Rule of probability will tell you the highest numbers would get higher number of percentage breakthrough infections than from the lowest.
24/09/2021 1:57 PM
MuttsInvestor SPIN the Facts to REFLECT badly on Sinovac. Guess who ?
24/09/2021 2:02 PM
henry888 I know vaccine in earlier stage Astra Zeneca was stopped from use in Europe in view of after vaccinated effects with possible blood clot and this symptoms is quite unlikely happened in Sinovac or Pfizer.
24/09/2021 2:05 PM
DreamEmperor the experiences of hungary & turkey with sinovac have been quite good, I have read
24/09/2021 7:01 PM
i3lurker You are right.

Thats called "How to lie with statistics"

Sinovac is cheap. So many Malaysians were vaccinated with Sinovac.




henry888 I opine the statistics of percentage breakthrough infections may not be correct in consideration of the total numbers of vaccinated Malaysians under Sinovac, Pfizer and Astra Zeneca. If not mistaken Astra Zeneca has the lowest numbers of vaccinated Malaysians. Rule of probability will tell you the highest numbers would get higher number of percentage breakthrough infections than from the lowest.
24/09/2021 1:57 PM
24/09/2021 8:18 PM
Tobby Sinovac is not effective! The data in many countries shown the same thing! It's not about politics! It's about the science! Aztranezenca prove to be the best so far! Again, it's all in the data!
24/09/2021 8:24 PM
Tobby However, having said that, Astrazeneca has it's drawback as well! It's only for those 20 and above with no allergy and blood clouting risk!
24/09/2021 8:25 PM
Tobby Problem with mRNA vaccine, the effect doesn't last long! Only for few months! And require super cold fridge to keep them!
So for Malaysia, Astrazeneca is the way to go for booster shots for next year!
24/09/2021 8:27 PM
i3lurker Question to you Tobby...

Example only lah

if 10,000,000 got sinovac

100,000 got astra

100,000 got Pfizer

who will have the highest ICU cases?

hahaha

kakakakakaka


Thats called "How to lie with statistics"
24/09/2021 8:27 PM
Tobby i3lucker! Again, it's all in science! You can't lie! Sinovac refuse to get proper certification!
24/09/2021 8:28 PM
Tobby However, having said that, it's better to be vaccinated than not! In case of Malaysia, our immigration side has been total dissapointment! We have high infections due to super high inflow of migrants! And migrants have high interaction with local as well as we recruit them in almost every sectors which should not happen at all!
Migrant may have better immune system as they do live in harsh environment their whole lives! As for us, our lives have been sheltered! That's why our immunity is not as good as those migrants!
24/09/2021 8:33 PM
i3lurker This reminded me of a case appeared in newspapers of how some state Exco members got PPR houses many years ago

They submitted
example only


Income 20,000.00

less

2 driver 2,000.00
3 maid 3,000.00
house installment 10,000.00
car HP 3,000.00
petrol 1500.00

Nett income RM500.00

so got PPR houses meant for those with Income less than RM1,000.00 per month.

Then they rented out these houses at RM600.00 per month to their Suiyee Sucker Bilis voters who will willingly die for them...
24/09/2021 8:37 PM
SunnySunshine Some people want to believe what they wanted to believe. Whatever data will be read & interpreted according to their way.

Don’t believe AZ? Go check how’s UK doing, nothing to hide there
Don’t believe Pfizer? Go check US data, it is so openly disclosed there.

Don’t believe Sinovac? Can you check Data in China?


@i3lurker, Look like you have your own set of data, where did you get it? Mind to share?

By the way, Go check with all other countries that received Sinovac, compared data with “right scientific manner” & then may be come back to share “again”?
25/09/2021 1:03 AM
ThePowerOfGlove if you want to train some soldiers how to know, shoot & kill enemy soldiers, and you could:

1. show them pieces of dead meat & teach them how to spot those meat pieces on live enemy soldiers; or

2. show them dismembered arms & legs of maimed enemy soldiers; or

3. show them dead (killed, inactivated) enemy soldiers in full battle uniform;

which method do you reckon would work the best in real life battles, again & again?
25/09/2021 1:44 AM
Zuriana The answer is no. 3.... show them dead (killed, inactivated) enemy soldiers in full battle uniform;


Posted by ThePowerOfGlove > Sep 25, 2021 1:44 AM | Report Abuse

if you want to train some soldiers how to know, shoot & kill enemy soldiers, and you could:

1. show them pieces of dead meat & teach them how to spot those meat pieces on live enemy soldiers; or

2. show them dismembered arms & legs of maimed enemy soldiers; or

3. show them dead (killed, inactivated) enemy soldiers in full battle uniform;

which method do you reckon would work the best in real life battles, again & again?
25/09/2021 1:48 AM
ThePowerOfGlove Well, by simple natural uncluttered logic, that is how exactly it should be, I reckon.
25/09/2021 1:54 AM
ThePowerOfGlove And when some of those enemy soldiers somehow manage to change their physical appearance a bit over time, all you need to do next is kill some of the new enemy soldier variants, and then use them for training your new batch of soldiers
25/09/2021 1:58 AM
i3lurker How efficacious is the vaccine?
A large phase 3 trial in Brazil showed that two doses, administered at an interval of 14 days, had an efficacy of 51% against symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection, 100% against severe COVID-19, and 100% against hospitalization starting 14 days after receiving the second dose.

https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-sinovac-covid-19-vaccine-what-you-need-to-know
25/09/2021 6:46 AM
i3lurker Maybe the WHO says Sinovac is 100% against hospitalisation

but 0% against brought in dead

and 0% against ICU admittance?
25/09/2021 7:39 AM
CharlesT Sinovac not cheap lah....even more expensive than Pfizer i think

AZ is the cheapest...USD10+
25/09/2021 10:21 AM
CharlesT Cheapest but also the most protective one
25/09/2021 10:22 AM
ThePowerOfGlove sinovac can come up with new vax that would work against delta quite fast

all they need to do is use delta as the main base for their new inactivated-vaccine stock

you can't do that as easily with pfizer, moderna or az
25/09/2021 11:12 AM
Tobby Posted by CharlesT > Sep 25, 2021 10:21 AM | Report Abuse

Sinovac not cheap lah....even more expensive than Pfizer i think

AZ is the cheapest...USD10+

Answer : Correct! Cheap and effective! And easy to be deported as it does not require special fridge!
25/09/2021 11:13 AM
Tobby Posted by leno > Sep 25, 2021 11:46 AM | Report Abuse

U don't wear helmet ride motobike,
u langgar tiang lampu, u die.

Answer : My advise to motorbikers out there, wear bullet proof vest as well! You never know you get shot by enforcement officers!
25/09/2021 11:48 AM
BountyOfTheBourse many daredevil bikers chose to be regularly flirting with disaster

you keep on courting disaster, one day disaster gonna be your girlfriend, or maybe even your bride
25/09/2021 11:55 AM
bpsiah The heading/title of this news is very misleading giving readers wrong impression.
25/09/2021 12:04 PM
Zuriana Betul, very misleading


Posted by bpsiah > Sep 25, 2021 12:04 PM | Report Abuse

The heading/title of this news is very misleading giving readers wrong impression.
25/09/2021 2:35 PM
FortuneBlooming maybe this blog was started by a hardcore anti-sinovaxxer
25/09/2021 2:41 PM
FortuneBlooming who also could be a hardcore pro-pfizervaxxer
25/09/2021 2:42 PM
OrlandoOilSemiconIoT Can NEVER FIND OUT which is more effective as there is no way to find out

Cannot find out coz thr is no way u can vaccinate a person wit Pfizer thn introduce Covid 19 virus into his body to see how d Pfizer vaccine protects him THEN vaccinate THAT SAME PERSON wit Sinovac thn introduce Covid 19 virus into his body to see how d Sinovac vaccine protects him

Tis is d only way to compare apple wit apple
25/09/2021 6:18 PM
VolatileIsMyGold You can keep track of three groups of people, with each group comprising 5,000 people (let's just say), with each having been vaxxed with pfizer, az or sinovac, for example

preferably all of them comprising comparable age groups & living in same general location

then you keep monitoring them all, watch what happens to them over time

then if one group shows a significantly lower or higher occurrence of delta infection, let's just say, then you could infer something from that

well, something like that, anyway
26/09/2021 1:26 AM


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