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AyamTua
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Posted by AyamTua > Feb 17, 2014 12:57 PM | Report Abuse

EPF 2013: 6.35% nice ...


eftee
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Posted by eftee > Feb 17, 2014 4:15 PM | Report Abuse

EPF being so experienced body even lose out to Amanah Saham.What they earned were not given rewarded to contributors. Why ASB and even other funds can pay more dividends but EPF can't.

ASB unitholders to get 7.75 sen dividend, 1.15 sen bonus

Read more: ASB unitholders to get 7.75 sen dividend, 1.15 sen bonus - Latest - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/latest/asb-unitholders-to-get-7-75-sen-dividend-1-15-sen-bonus-1.189669#ixzz2tZ698uQM


sephiroth
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Posted by sephiroth > Feb 17, 2014 4:16 PM | Report Abuse

6.35% dividend huat aaar..........


JTFX
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Posted by JTFX > Feb 17, 2014 4:19 PM | Report Abuse

epf should fire its FXXX inefficient fund managers and pass the fund mgtm to LTAT which paid 16%..assses.....


eftee
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Posted by eftee > Feb 17, 2014 4:26 PM | Report Abuse

Why LTAT can pay so much and EPF can't. Which one has a longer track record. And it is our money. Well, I withdraw whatever I can under their guidelines. If I lose it's my own fault. I won't blame them.


sephiroth
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Posted by sephiroth > Feb 17, 2014 4:30 PM | Report Abuse

such whinning baby, ltat have how many members? epf have how many members, do the math


JTFX
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Posted by JTFX > Feb 17, 2014 4:32 PM | Report Abuse

LTAT paid 16% cos got bigger balls, smarter brains..take bigger risks.. can goreng mid caps..


kllady_fidah
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Posted by kllady_fidah > Feb 17, 2014 4:34 PM | Report Abuse

true...true


sephiroth
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Posted by sephiroth > Feb 17, 2014 5:01 PM | Report Abuse

bigger balls, smarter brains..take bigger risks...NOT for retirement money


haikeyila
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Posted by haikeyila > Feb 17, 2014 5:04 PM | Report Abuse

but EPF dabbles in the stock market, buy properties, bail out companies. these are not big risks?


Ammar Roshidy
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Posted by Ammar Roshidy > Feb 17, 2014 9:18 PM | Report Abuse

It is nothing to do with bigger risk, just good management, good KPIs' and no interference from Government.


LATO' SELI
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Posted by LATO' SELI > Feb 18, 2014 1:29 AM | Report Abuse

Take out whatever you can from epf , put at other place that give better dividen eg ASB , LUTH etc


susuan
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Posted by susuan > Feb 18, 2014 9:39 AM | Report Abuse

LATO, only if we are bumiputras can we put into ASB, LUTH ETC. Not for us non bumiputras!!


ahmadkerl
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Posted by ahmadkerl > Feb 18, 2014 9:57 AM | Report Abuse

ASB , LUTH are not in the list. refer here: http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/ms/web/kwsp/member/members-savings-investment-withdrawal/appointed-fund-management-institutions-unit-trust-fund-under-the-epf-s-members-investment-scheme

Some of the unit trusts here give more than 20% return annually.


eftee
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Posted by eftee > Feb 18, 2014 10:04 AM | Report Abuse

Unit trusts also cutthroat. The idea is Noble but they charged 6% for buying. On top of that the annual management fees. Then they only give you a little bit over what the current FD rates offer. One fund company has more than 30 yrs of experience yet they only offer so little. Shame on them. But they take their agents on annual overseas tours with 6 dinners.


haikeyila
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Posted by haikeyila > Feb 18, 2014 10:11 AM | Report Abuse

which unit trusts give more than 20% annually? you mean, better than buffet?


eftee
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Posted by eftee > Feb 18, 2014 11:24 AM | Report Abuse

I didnt say more than 20%. Maybe ahmadkerl was referring to accumulated earnings, including bonus dividends.


ahmadkerl
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Posted by ahmadkerl > Feb 18, 2014 6:17 PM | Report Abuse

I refer to 5 year annualised return. But If you take only 1 year, last year was a very good for investment. I refer to this site:

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundinfo/topFunds.svdo?actionPerformed=topFunds


haikeyila
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Posted by haikeyila > Feb 21, 2014 9:46 AM | Report Abuse

of course they will give good returns during bull years. last year (even last 5 years) practically every tom, dick and harry made money. but what about the lean years?

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