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rojakmee
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Posted by rojakmee > Nov 7, 2019 1:46 PM | Report Abuse

Mine is 4.5% with Maybank


Choivo Capital
3196 posts

Posted by Choivo Capital > Nov 7, 2019 1:49 PM | Report Abuse

same, you need to get the Maybank one, not the Maybank IB one.

but can't buy structured warrants lah


Gem Wong
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Posted by Gem Wong > Nov 7, 2019 1:53 PM | Report Abuse

provided you don't get into margin call and need extra money to put in loh....


Connie555
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Posted by Connie555 > Nov 7, 2019 4:37 PM | Report Abuse

This Choivo...smh...wonder how is his portfolio doing while at here lecturing other ppl...so as this Ricky Mudafucker...go and become University professor


Connie555
160 posts

Posted by Connie555 > Nov 7, 2019 4:58 PM | Report Abuse

both choivo and ricky full of warrren buffet shit, but cant perform...crazy


Connie555
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Posted by Connie555 > Nov 7, 2019 5:00 PM | Report Abuse

ricky say tguan how la how la...ended up tguan moved today....choivo say mbmr hw la hw la i can find 10 co selling cheaper than mbmr la blablabla...yet mbmr share price been sustaines at above RM4 for so long....if you guys really wanna show off hw knowledgable u are...go to the uni and become lecturer.


Connie555
160 posts

Posted by Connie555 > Nov 7, 2019 5:03 PM | Report Abuse

so as this kc....the more he use jaks as scenario the more i feel like puking....jaks already come bck frm 0.40 last time keep talk bull shit cashflow this that....nw that it bck to 1.1 he come out advice ppl this that...once i see...ah diu jaks again....yau hai this kcchong....wahlan.....instant turn off my cpu...u knw why? i duwan sit my electric bill on this bull shit


paperplane
18700 posts

Posted by paperplane > Nov 7, 2019 5:03 PM | Report Abuse

haha. good discussion around here as all sifu gather here. good discussion.
Well, my advise still use margin wisely. its not that bad, else in offshore mkt nowadays, ppl wont be launching margin x2, x3 kinda unit trust funds.

You know how unit trusts evolved nowadays? there was unit trust use x2,x3 leverage to get extra income. as overall unit trust price is stable by investing in broad market overall, they add in margin to make it looks attractive, with traditional unit trust stable, its kinda a good strategy to look at investment. And I think it could be a trend for future.


paperplane
18700 posts

Posted by paperplane > Nov 7, 2019 5:06 PM | Report Abuse

the margin charges actually depends on your size, and perhaps how u negotiate with respective bankers etc. sometimes i think the head or SVP could have some privilege to give certain clients cheaper rates.

and for dutch lady kind of cases, if you have enough power to hold( use lower margin), actually in longrun you are still a great winner.


paperplane
18700 posts

Posted by paperplane > Nov 7, 2019 5:09 PM | Report Abuse

next yr GOLD would be a good thing to look at. and IM using some MARGIN x30.....though small, still if Gold hit 2000, my return would be near 1000%. is the risk worth taking, i think so. Thts how you use margin


paperplane
18700 posts

Posted by paperplane > Nov 7, 2019 5:10 PM | Report Abuse

Some pro traders in HK use margin x50, YTD they earned 2 Ferraris....is ferrari a risk you can take? Stop loss is always the disciplines to have for traders and investors.


Ricky Yeo
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Posted by Ricky Yeo > Nov 7, 2019 6:06 PM | Report Abuse

make my day -> ricky say tguan how la how la...ended up tguan moved today

Please prepare me a report of 'how tguan move everyday' thank you


Connie555
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Posted by Connie555 > Nov 7, 2019 6:48 PM | Report Abuse

ha...ha...ha...

ve...ry...funny...

reminds me bck in the days those nerds that study day and night...


Ricky Yeo
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Posted by Ricky Yeo > Nov 7, 2019 7:05 PM | Report Abuse

I'm glad you enjoy the joke. Don't be so serious, no one gets out alive.


ChoCho
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Posted by ChoCho > Nov 7, 2019 9:35 PM | Report Abuse

Share margin financing is very cheap. Pledged FD can get interest income around 3.8%p.a. Brokerage charge interest 4.5%p.a Simple net effect is 0.7%p.a chargeable upon drawdown only. Effective interest will abit higher because of the leverage mechanism. Find 1Malaysia also cannot find cheap financing 0.7%p.a. I am using Maybank. Brokerage commission is abit higher la...at least rm30 or so. But its ok la. Profit 1 time 4-5 digit. Let brokerage earn abit lah. We must be thankful to them for providing such facilities.


kcchongnz
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Posted by kcchongnz > Nov 7, 2019 9:50 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by Connie555 > Nov 7, 2019 5:03 PM | Report Abuse
so as this kc....the more he use jaks as scenario the more i feel like puking....jaks already come bck frm 0.40 last time keep talk bull shit cashflow this that....nw that it bck to 1.1 he come out advice ppl this that...once i see...ah diu jaks again....yau hai this kcchong....wahlan.....instant turn off my cpu...u knw why? i duwan sit my electric bill on this bull shit

After reading other article boasting and propagating margin finance, I wrote this article to provide an opposite view, in fact on both advantages and disadvantages of SMF for readers who are interested to read and perhaps learn something.

Seriously I did not expect anyone to become vulgar and started to personally attack others. I wish the society here is more civilized than that. Most of us were educated to be as such. Anyway, can't expect everyone to be the same.

But serious, if you start to puke seeing my name in the article, just get away from it and don't read. Don't have to get upset. Life is short.


ChoCho
254 posts

Posted by ChoCho > Nov 7, 2019 10:16 PM | Report Abuse

RE: kcchongnz

Think about the 10 or more persons who are giving positive feedback on your article and forget that 1 person who is criticizing you. :)


kcchongnz
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Posted by kcchongnz > Nov 8, 2019 12:21 AM | Report Abuse

Posted by ChoCho > Nov 7, 2019 10:16 PM | Report Abuse
RE: kcchongnz
Think about the 10 or more persons who are giving positive feedback on your article and forget that 1 person who is criticizing you. :)


You are one of the 10. Thank you.

It is ok for me to receive negative feedback, or opposing views, or criticisms. There are indeed more opposing views than those agreeing with me in this issue of SNF. I have no problem that, as everybody is different.

But some comments involving personal attack, and it is always involve the same people is way overboard.

I guess can't expect there is no weird people around. That is ok with me too.


kcchongnz
6610 posts

Posted by kcchongnz > Nov 8, 2019 12:48 AM | Report Abuse

I am often very perplexed by this statement and always want to make a fair comment,

"Our famous chartist and fund manager also sold all his and his clients’ shares at about Rm 1.50 so that he can buy back at cheaper prices. In fact, he has circulated his sell recommendation to all his clients because he believes the right issues will dampen the price. Obviously, he is also wrong. Unfortunately, many shareholders have been misled and they sold their holdings too early."

Why you have to do that in all your articles on Dayang? Why you always hit on this "famous chartist and fund manager" every time you write Dayang?

You know "Our famous chartist and fund manager" sold all his Dayang 3 months ago at RM1.50 and circulated the same sell recommendation, bought and replaced a buy recommendation on Jaks which was at about 75 sen then.

Dayang's share price has been lingering at about RM1.90 and only the last few minutes today rose by 7 sen, of for a gain of 40 sen, or about 26%, whereas Jaks has risen to RM1.11 today, for a gain of 36 sen during the same period, or about 52%, double the gain of Dayang.

What is wrong with selling Dayang and bought Jaks?

Who made better gain?

Why do you have to keep on repeating your criticisms?


paperplane
18700 posts

Posted by paperplane > Nov 8, 2019 10:00 AM | Report Abuse

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/06/ray-dalio-says-the-economy-isnt-growing-because-the-world-is-mad.html


paperplane
18700 posts

Posted by paperplane > Nov 8, 2019 10:03 AM | Report Abuse

its a good discussion here. NO right or wrong. still, use margin wisely.


Lukey_Greek
87 posts

Posted by Lukey_Greek > Nov 8, 2019 11:48 AM | Report Abuse

For margin financing, you can also pledged your asset play/ long term shares as collateral for additional financing, eg MAA or Kbunai, for your other short term high profit growth stocks.

You don’t need to dispose your current shares. Margin financing now is in a way ‘monetise’ your asset that you intend to hold long term.


rojakmee
959 posts

Posted by rojakmee > Nov 8, 2019 10:13 PM | Report Abuse

you must be good in selecting stock to use SFM, check my tread I have been holding uptrending Naim(70 cents) MBMR (2.80), UWC 1.95, MI(1.95),ROHAS(0.58),lately all during the last 3 month (only one stock then jump to the next one)

SFM increase profit... its all about probability sometimes you lose but not much but the gain are much higher with higher probability.


RJ87
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Posted by RJ87 > Nov 11, 2019 7:21 PM | Report Abuse

Good simple explanation. Summary is if you find that you behave like Jesse, better start learning from Ben.

i would love to listen to Icon8888 method of balancing his portfolio.


Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)
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Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart) > Nov 11, 2019 7:50 PM | Report Abuse

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Posted by Icon8888 > Nov 7, 2019 10:22 AM | Report Abuse

Ricky too academic

every of his sentence I need to read at least twice in order to understand

most of the time I never understand

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Cured of his frequent urination, new health problems plaqued icon8888 today. Is he having some problems with his sight and some minor problems with cognition too? :-)

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