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Sslee
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Posted by Sslee > Apr 8, 2021 8:53 AM | Report Abuse

U-shaped eleven-dash line was published in the then-Republic of China on 1 December 1947 (Chiang Kai-shek of KMT after world War II). Two of the dashes in the Gulf of Tonkin were later removed at the behest of
CPC the People's Republic of China Premier Zhou Enlai, reducing the total to nine.

PRC do not recognised the Republic of China(Taiwan) hence to claim the 9 dash line is a claim the RPC (Taiwan) controlled China.


treasurehunt
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Posted by treasurehunt > Apr 8, 2021 9:39 AM | Report Abuse

James Shoal is an underwater shoal in the South China Sea, with a depth of 22 metres below the surface of the sea, located about 45 nautical miles off Sarawak of Malaysia. It is claimed by Malaysia, the People's Republic of China, and the Republic of China.

'the under shoal located 45 nautical miles off Sarawak' whereas distance from Hainan Dao to James Shoal is more than 1000km.


treasurehunt
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Posted by treasurehunt > Apr 8, 2021 9:44 AM | Report Abuse

More precisely, the distance from Hainan to James Shoal is about 1753km whereas it is merely 45 nautical miles of Sarawak.


Sslee
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Posted by Sslee > Apr 8, 2021 9:53 AM | Report Abuse

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegean_dispute

Any basic for Greece claims over many islands and eec so near to Turkey.

Did the Western world fair with Turkey?


treasurehunt
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Posted by treasurehunt > Apr 8, 2021 9:57 AM | Report Abuse

I Malaysian so i care about Malaysia. The rest of the world, I got no time to care.


Sslee
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Posted by Sslee > Apr 8, 2021 10:09 AM | Report Abuse

If you are Malaysian and care for Malaysia then you should urge Malaysia government to sit down as equal to talk with Philipine, Brunei, Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam and China to solve any overlapping claim peacefully without the busybody outsider trouble makers.

Trust Malaysia wisdom and prepare well for the talk.


BeastOfTheEast
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Posted by BeastOfTheEast > Apr 8, 2021 1:25 PM | Report Abuse

You really seriously reckon your China is gonna listen to anything SEA nations say?


BeastOfTheEast
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Posted by BeastOfTheEast > Apr 8, 2021 1:30 PM | Report Abuse

You really seriously believe that SEA nations have not tried talking to China about SCS during ASEAN + 3 meetings?


BeastOfTheEast
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Posted by BeastOfTheEast > Apr 8, 2021 1:33 PM | Report Abuse

Whether 11-dash line or 9-dash line both are invalid, neither makes China owner of SCS. It is just a claim based on historical bunkum.


FortuneBlooming
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Posted by FortuneBlooming > Apr 8, 2021 1:47 PM | Report Abuse

We are not US arse kisser nor Westerner arse kisser

We are just acting sensible becos we need to take care of our own defence & security interests


FortuneBlooming
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Posted by FortuneBlooming > Apr 8, 2021 1:49 PM | Report Abuse

So we need to keep partnership with US + US allies in defence & security matters

While also still keeping partnership with China in economic matters


Sslee
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Posted by Sslee > Apr 8, 2021 1:59 PM | Report Abuse

At recently foreign ministers of Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, and the Philippines had been invited to visit China from March 31 to April 2.

The meeting was described as a sign of “the profound friendship and growing affinity” between China and its neighbors in Southeast Asia.

Did US invite Malaysia for any talk?

Yes Obama while holiday in Hawaii invite MO1 for a round of golf.


ProsperousRealm
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Posted by ProsperousRealm > Apr 8, 2021 2:06 PM | Report Abuse

So what do you honestly reckon that China is going to say at talks in China?

Maybe declare that SCS is really geographically a part of SEA & China is considering packing up their bags & leave huh?

Grow up & get real, man


ProsperousRealm
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Posted by ProsperousRealm > Apr 8, 2021 2:07 PM | Report Abuse

RMAF joins US navy in bilateral exercise over SCS

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2021/04/07/rmaf-joins-us-navy-in-bilateral-exercise-over-south-china-sea


Sslee
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Posted by Sslee > Apr 8, 2021 2:11 PM | Report Abuse

It is up to Malaysia leaders how well prepared they are when facing with China leaders.

So blame no one if yourself did not do the homework.


ProsperousRealm
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Posted by ProsperousRealm > Apr 8, 2021 2:40 PM | Report Abuse

And every time ask chinese Malaysians to go back to tiongsan and forget he himself is first or second generation Malaysians with root in India, Middle East, Philippine, Indo and etc.

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The earliest settlers of SEA were the Melanesian people (a group which included the Negrito as a subset) who came around 40,000 - 50,000 BC from India, where they were also likely the first earliest ancient settlers. They also settled large parts of China. Today they still form the majority indigenous people of Papua & far eastern Indonesian islands.

The second wave were the AustroAsiatic (which included Mon & Khmer people) who came around 8,000 - 10,000 BC. The third wave were the seafaring Austronesian people who came around 4,000 - 6,000 BC. Both believed to migrate from their original urheimats in areas in today's southern China. Even much later newcomer waves were the Tai-Kradai (Thailand & Laos) & Yuen (Vietnam) peoples who only appeared in SEA around 1,000 AD.

We current indigenous SEA people are by & large the hybrid result of the abovementioned three (Melanesian + AustroAsiatic + Austronesian) ancient peoples. Plus possibly also an equally ancient indigenous SEA component, perhaps arising from the long sunken Sundaland continent. Even if some among us might also now hv some further relatively very recent overlay from South Asian, West Asian, even Sinitic, Turkic & Caucasoid, genetic stocks.


ProsperousRealm
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Posted by ProsperousRealm > Apr 8, 2021 2:44 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by Sslee > Apr 8, 2021 2:11 PM | Report Abuse

It is up to Malaysia leaders how well prepared they are when facing with China leaders.

So blame no one if yourself did not do the homework.

********

Sorry to say this, but somehow so many of your posts still seem to indicate that you still consider yourself as Chinese first, instead of Malaysian first.


MoneyAndHoney
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Posted by MoneyAndHoney > Apr 8, 2021 2:54 PM | Report Abuse

Current Malaysia govt policy rejects China-promoted so called 9-dash line to make 90% of SCS as territory of China


MoneyAndHoney
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Posted by MoneyAndHoney > Apr 8, 2021 2:56 PM | Report Abuse

So any Malaysian endorsing 9-dash line in order to side with China is essentially going up against official Malaysia govt policy


MoneyAndHoney
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Posted by MoneyAndHoney > Apr 8, 2021 3:02 PM | Report Abuse

Japan sends destroyer to track China Liaoning AC

https://youtu.be/E320xGJvV0o

jeng jeng jeng


Want2Win
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Posted by Want2Win > Apr 8, 2021 3:10 PM | Report Abuse

ki ki ki


Want2Win
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Posted by Want2Win > Apr 8, 2021 3:10 PM | Report Abuse

SCS is part of SEA region leh


Want2Win
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Posted by Want2Win > Apr 8, 2021 3:11 PM | Report Abuse

Why china from so far away come grab & conquer one


Want2Win
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Posted by Want2Win > Apr 8, 2021 3:12 PM | Report Abuse

They so greedy wanna steal the O&G resources loh


Want2Win
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Posted by Want2Win > Apr 8, 2021 3:20 PM | Report Abuse

If Indonesia also claiming any part of SCS, then sure all Chinese Indonesians all supporting Indonesia position loh, not supporting China position loh

Not like Chinese Malaysians, always wanna support China position leh


Sslee
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Posted by Sslee > Apr 8, 2021 3:21 PM | Report Abuse

LOL,
Who is the greedy one stealing O&G of Sabah and Sarawak without paying what is belong to Sabah and Sarawak.


BeastOfTheEast
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Posted by BeastOfTheEast > Apr 8, 2021 3:30 PM | Report Abuse

Under Petroleum Development Act 1974, all petroleum oil & gas found in Malaysian territory belongs to govt of Malaysia


BeastOfTheEast
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Posted by BeastOfTheEast > Apr 8, 2021 3:31 PM | Report Abuse

Sabah & Sarawak now part of Malaysia, not part of a different country


BeastOfTheEast
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Posted by BeastOfTheEast > Apr 8, 2021 3:32 PM | Report Abuse

No different from Terengganu, Kedah or Johor


Sslee
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Posted by Sslee > Apr 8, 2021 3:46 PM | Report Abuse

Someone need to read what is MA63.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Agreement


BeastOfTheEast
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Posted by BeastOfTheEast > Apr 8, 2021 4:04 PM | Report Abuse

Indonesia, Britain agree to deepen security, trade partnership ahead of warship’s visit to Indo-Pacific

https://amp.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3128662/indonesia-britain-agree-deepen-security-trade-partnership-ahead?src=amp-article-related-articles&module=related_articles&pgtype=article&campaign=&linker=1*1l0ojts*clientId*RkltakRuc2MxdEU3Q2RER2x1dXhONU51Zmc4NDZDaG9pMkhXTnpCeEJHNTE1V1JKdGJMVXRmaGRheEY1aF8xcQ


BeastOfTheEast
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Posted by BeastOfTheEast > Apr 8, 2021 4:05 PM | Report Abuse

You think Malaysia govt cannot read MA63 kah


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Apr 8, 2021 4:19 PM | Report Abuse

Correct meh ??

Not really true loh!

Simply say loh!

Posted by Want2Win > Apr 8, 2021 3:20 PM | Report Abuse

If Indonesia also claiming any part of SCS, then sure all Chinese Indonesians all supporting Indonesia position loh, not supporting China position loh

Not like Chinese Malaysians, always wanna support China position leh


Want2Win
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Posted by Want2Win > Apr 8, 2021 4:51 PM | Report Abuse

ki ki ki


Want2Win
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Posted by Want2Win > Apr 8, 2021 4:51 PM | Report Abuse

Why not correct leh


Want2Win
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Posted by Want2Win > Apr 8, 2021 4:55 PM | Report Abuse

Of course correct loh


mita29
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Posted by mita29 > Apr 8, 2021 4:56 PM | Report Abuse

Philippines also claimed Sabah, do they have soldiers on Sabah? No.

With regard to 9 dash line claim, you can consider it obsolete already. Like the philippines claim on Sabah, It is unlikely to be fulfilled because the majority of islands have already been claimed by Vietnamese army, some by Philipines, China, a couple by TAIWAN, Malaysian army has claimed ours too. GOOD JOB MALAYSIA BOLEH! The whole SCS dispute is like buffett loh, first come first serve. Next comes the SCS code of conduct, to be concluded soon once western power fails to stir up problem and leave. Their goal has always been to destabilize region where they see it would challenge their primacy or supremacy.

THE MAP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_in_the_South_China_Sea#/media/File:Spratly_with_flags.jpg


mita29
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Posted by mita29 > Apr 8, 2021 6:19 PM | Report Abuse

Vietnamese banyak GARANG you know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amboyna_Cay

On 20 May 1963, the Republic of Vietnam Navy landed on Amboyna Cay and rebuilt the sovereignty stele.[5]

On 28 April 1975, the Vietnam People's Navy landed on Amboyna Cay but later left the cay due to harsh climate.

In 1978 the Royal Malaysian Navy landed on the island and placed markers. However, the markers were subsequently destroyed by Vietnam People's Navy who has returned and occupied the cay since 10 March 1978.[6]

On 31 March 1979, forces occupying the cay fired warning shots at a boat transporting six amateur radio operators ("hams") attempting a DX-pedition to Amboyna Cay.[citation needed]

In 1982, a Singapore yacht operated by the owner and his wife transporting four German hams on a DX-pedition to Amboyna Cay was fired upon by Vietnamese forces. One of the hams, Diethelm Mueller, was hit by an artillery round and fell overboard. The yacht burned and the rest of the party drifted for 11 days on debris. Another ham, Gero Band, died of thirst the day before the survivors were rescued by a passing Japanese freighter which took them to Hong Kong.[7]


ProsperousRealm
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Posted by ProsperousRealm > Apr 9, 2021 1:49 PM | Report Abuse

yah kah


ProsperousRealm
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Posted by ProsperousRealm > Apr 9, 2021 1:50 PM | Report Abuse

now vietnam military also quite powerful


ProsperousRealm
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Posted by ProsperousRealm > Apr 9, 2021 1:51 PM | Report Abuse

got more combined firepower than us already


Want2Win
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Posted by Want2Win > Apr 9, 2021 3:09 PM | Report Abuse

ki ki ki


Want2Win
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Posted by Want2Win > Apr 9, 2021 3:09 PM | Report Abuse

yah loh

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