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698 comment(s). Last comment by Leong966 at Jan 10, 2020 7:42 AM
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Kris Wong
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Posted by Kris Wong > Oct 8, 2019 4:09 PM | Report Abuse

It is unlikely the Yeoh family will give Dissenting Holders a 'free lunch' now as they already hold all the 'Aces' after getting the coveted >90% acceptance !!!


Leong966
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Posted by Leong966 > Oct 8, 2019 6:47 PM | Report Abuse

@kris will the devils do like what takashi said? Selling the lands at ridiculous price?


takashi86
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Posted by takashi86 > Oct 8, 2019 7:19 PM | Report Abuse

@Leong, i didn't mentioned "selling", but now ytl land under ytl castle, they can go for all decision without EGM or whatsoever...use bit imagination u will get the picture


Leong966
81 posts

Posted by Leong966 > Oct 8, 2019 8:01 PM | Report Abuse

@takashi, are you holding any Land shares. If you have will you go for swap?


whkwoon
256 posts

Posted by whkwoon > Oct 8, 2019 8:11 PM | Report Abuse

It is a conditional take over, even if you do nothing they will automatic convert YTL Corp shares


Kris Wong
384 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > Oct 8, 2019 9:37 PM | Report Abuse

No, they still cannot forced Dissenting Holders to accept the share swap offer as they not yet get more than 97.37% acceptance, please refer to potential outcome of offer pg 53 of Independent Advice Circular dated 15 July 2019. As at now, Dissenting Holders can still freely choose themselves to whether to accept but must be within a certain timeframe OR decline the offer !!!


takashi86
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Posted by takashi86 > Oct 8, 2019 9:42 PM | Report Abuse

I sold it, @kris is correct, as my dad is still holding ytl cement share, every year got dividend as usual...but wanna sell it is a real problem, as it is not public listed, but my dad dun bother, he is retired, so no keen make money, just take the dividend and makan...

If not mistaken, u can sell not public listed company, but is really troublesome, u nid to engaged a licensed secretary and get in touch vf ytl cement management said u gonna sell it to a buyer on agreed price on willing to sell willing to buy basis...one word - headache


Kris Wong
384 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > Oct 9, 2019 8:57 AM | Report Abuse

Yes, mainly because of the Delisting as 'insisted by the 'Devils' even with the ridiculous poor share swap & takeover price, the 'not so independant' ( chosen & employed by the Devils themselves) Independent Advisor still advised and recommended that Minority Holders to accept the offer after concluded with highly contentious and debatable not fair but reasonable opinion !!! This the main reason why the 'Devils' managed to finally obtain the coveted >90% acceptance after initially getting >75% as required to be delisted !!!


Kris Wong
384 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > Oct 9, 2019 9:47 AM | Report Abuse

Compare & contrast this with the new Singapore market ruling, such Privatisation & Delisting exercise there now required both a Fair and Reasonable Independant Advisor opinion to further protect Minority Holders !!!


takashi86
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Posted by takashi86 > Oct 11, 2019 5:05 PM | Report Abuse

Bye ytl land....farewell


bfmklm
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Posted by bfmklm > Oct 13, 2019 7:20 PM | Report Abuse

life is short & God knows......


multi530
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Posted by multi530 > Oct 15, 2019 2:10 PM | Report Abuse

less than Rm300 cost percentage lot of share is nothing today. just let Francis spent more time to acquire it.


multi530
320 posts

Posted by multi530 > Oct 15, 2019 2:12 PM | Report Abuse

不甘心的小股東可以不作為, 等楊花更多時間來收購。 不然 搏一舖 希望分股息。


Leong966
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Posted by Leong966 > Oct 15, 2019 10:23 PM | Report Abuse

Let this family to spend all the money happily.. maybe they will not suffer this lifetime but definitely at hell and next lifetime


carrietan
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Posted by carrietan > Oct 16, 2019 11:58 AM | Report Abuse

I still hold the YTL land shares, so what can I do now? Actually I didn't received the form to accept the offer.


sapurakencana
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Posted by sapurakencana > Oct 16, 2019 1:25 PM | Report Abuse

If you buy at higher price,i prefer you hold the share rather than become the supper of this "rich Yeoh family"


Leong966
81 posts

Posted by Leong966 > Oct 16, 2019 9:43 PM | Report Abuse

9.5% dissidents shareholders please hold on. I’m one of you all..


takashi86
746 posts

Posted by takashi86 > Oct 17, 2019 2:54 PM | Report Abuse

Hopefully this forum will be kept active even after delisted...so all can discuss the next steps..
Or hold minorities AGM here once in a while.


Leong966
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Posted by Leong966 > Oct 17, 2019 4:10 PM | Report Abuse

SURE!


sapurakencana
924 posts

Posted by sapurakencana > Oct 17, 2019 10:17 PM | Report Abuse

i agree


whkwoon
256 posts

Posted by whkwoon > Oct 18, 2019 3:24 PM | Report Abuse

yes hold on to YTL Land , see you after 10 years if we live that long, pass to your children


psooi
3 posts

Posted by psooi > Oct 19, 2019 9:24 AM | Report Abuse

NTA will be higher if they revalue the land bank in Sentul. I am not going to accept the offer.


KienTiew
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Posted by KienTiew > Oct 22, 2019 7:03 PM | Report Abuse

What is the Transfer Reference No shall I fill in the offeror form?
XX-XX-XX-XXXXX


Kris Wong
384 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > Oct 23, 2019 10:16 AM | Report Abuse

Yes, upon u completed the transfer by signing the Bursa Malaysia blue transfer form NF/11 at your stock-brokering company, u will given the transfer ref no to fill in the offeror form


multi530
320 posts

Posted by multi530 > Oct 23, 2019 5:34 PM | Report Abuse

let's keep this post active despite of YTL Land Been delisted


Leong966
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Posted by Leong966 > Oct 25, 2019 9:05 AM | Report Abuse

Mother shares below 90sens


psooi
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Posted by psooi > Oct 28, 2019 10:40 PM | Report Abuse

Can we choose not to accept the offer even they privatize?


Kris Wong
384 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > Oct 30, 2019 11:57 AM | Report Abuse

Yes u can don't accept as there is no forced compulsorily takeover yet but u will then hold unlisted shares !!!


sapurakencana
924 posts

Posted by sapurakencana > Nov 5, 2019 3:52 AM | Report Abuse

psooi,pls stay with us,dont follow big boss.


dimpledbrain
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Posted by dimpledbrain > Nov 6, 2019 9:54 AM | Report Abuse

wondering what are the dates like last date to reject, and if share swap when will the ytl shares be distributed?


RVI123
572 posts

Posted by RVI123 > Nov 12, 2019 2:05 AM | Report Abuse

I am not selling my shareholdings. I am prepared to become a shareholder of unlisted YTLLand.


Eric6790
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Posted by Eric6790 > Nov 12, 2019 2:49 AM | Report Abuse

so u all means if any one still hold the company shares entitled for dividend?


RVI123
572 posts

Posted by RVI123 > Nov 12, 2019 12:13 PM | Report Abuse

@Eric6790

Yes, you are still entitled to dividends, splits, bonus issues and right issues. Everything is still the same, but the stock is not listed and you can not sell in Bursa. Other than this, there will still be AGM or EGM that you can attend.


RVI123
572 posts

Posted by RVI123 > Nov 12, 2019 12:41 PM | Report Abuse

YTLland with all the lands that are not revalued actually worths RM4.00 to RM5.00 a share. The family force the minority shareholders to sell at RM0.36 a share through share swap. It is a pure daylight robbery.


multi530
320 posts

Posted by multi530 > Nov 12, 2019 1:01 PM | Report Abuse

I even bought more share before delisted..just dont want to let Francis take it easily


Kris Wong
384 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > Nov 20, 2019 9:17 AM | Report Abuse

YTLLand's AGM also on 12 December. Same place and date as YTLCorp n YTL Power !!!


Leong966
81 posts

Posted by Leong966 > Nov 21, 2019 8:16 PM | Report Abuse

Noted


RVI123
572 posts

Posted by RVI123 > Dec 2, 2019 10:19 AM | Report Abuse

The management is going to amend the constitutions. I believe it is going to be for the advantage of the YEOH family. Can someone highlight what is the major changes?


stillloss
122 posts

Posted by stillloss > Dec 2, 2019 8:35 PM | Report Abuse

Anyone can share the location and time for the agm??


Kris Wong
384 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > Dec 10, 2019 9:29 AM | Report Abuse

AGM : Thursday 12 December 3pm The Majestic Hotel KL


takashi86
746 posts

Posted by takashi86 > Dec 10, 2019 10:28 PM | Report Abuse

They purposely chose double 12...so ppl will busy online shopping no time go agm tiu gao them!!


Kris Wong
384 posts

Posted by Kris Wong > Dec 16, 2019 12:06 PM | Report Abuse

Eldest son announced no dividend for next 5 years ?, heck,another cunning tactic to cheat dissenting shareholders to accept his company, YTLCorp, outrageous low takeover offer to accept the share swap by 7January 2020 !!!


RVI123
572 posts

Posted by RVI123 > Dec 17, 2019 12:37 PM | Report Abuse

Eldest son has slowed down and become less aggressive as compared to those days. In the AGM, he just blamed the market environment to cause the whole group to do badly. However, if we compared YTLLand to other property counters, many of the competitors like MKH and Paramount are still recording very good profits.


RVI123
572 posts

Posted by RVI123 > Dec 23, 2019 12:34 AM | Report Abuse

@yongch

May I know how much dividends have YTLCement shareholders received after the delisting? Was there any Rights or Bonus issues?


multi530
320 posts

Posted by multi530 > Dec 23, 2019 7:35 AM | Report Abuse

just keep it for another 5 yrs


Leong966
81 posts

Posted by Leong966 > Jan 7, 2020 9:58 PM | Report Abuse

Last day for dissidents shareholders


Louisngu
52 posts

Posted by Louisngu > Jan 9, 2020 9:43 PM | Report Abuse

haih stupid only dispose to thm


Leong966
81 posts

Posted by Leong966 > Jan 10, 2020 7:42 AM | Report Abuse

@yongch latest report was only 93.72%. Where did you get the info of 97%?

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