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i3lurker
2097 posts

Posted by i3lurker > Feb 7, 2020 6:06 PM | Report Abuse

I need to check again with my time machine


Sslee
2232 posts

Posted by Sslee > Feb 7, 2020 6:13 PM | Report Abuse

Hahahaha,
I3lurker mind to check Jaks also because deMusangkong say very soon 2 then 3 then 4 then 5 Insas can only buy one jaks.


leno
3705 posts

Posted by leno > Feb 8, 2020 11:27 AM | Report Abuse

how can a stock worth more than the MGO when the MGO price is yet to be announce or worst is when there is actually no MGO at all ? Sudah gila kah ?


stockraider
14283 posts

Posted by stockraider > Feb 8, 2020 11:29 AM | Report Abuse

MGO IF HAPPEN IT IS RM 1 LOH...!!


i3lurker
2097 posts

Posted by i3lurker > Feb 8, 2020 11:32 AM | Report Abuse

no one will do anything

BURSA got so many companies, 500 companies maybe small enough to takeover with small investment.

why waste money on your own company

you think directors stupid?

its better to take opportunity to control another listed company


sctan
480 posts

Posted by sctan > Feb 8, 2020 12:04 PM | Report Abuse

All are stupid, except the investors published comments, they should be appointed as these companies directors


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Feb 8, 2020 12:08 PM | Report Abuse

WHY A SO QUIET COMPANY LIKE INSAS HERE, THE PUBLISHER WHO PUBLISH IN INSAS HERE, GET INSULTED LIKE THAT LEH ??

SOMETHING IS BREWING, AND SOMEBODY TRYING VERY HARD TO HIDE THE TRUTH LOH...!!



Posted by sctan > Feb 8, 2020 12:04 PM | Report Abuse

All are stupid, except the investors published comments, they should be appointed as these companies directors


zendrya2
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Posted by zendrya2 > Feb 13, 2020 8:51 AM | Report Abuse

Hmmm been very quiet lately. Anyone wanna pump the price up?


Thinkcarefully
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Posted by Thinkcarefully > Feb 13, 2020 7:20 PM | Report Abuse

Where have all the experts gone?


sohaitrader
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Posted by sohaitrader > Feb 13, 2020 7:30 PM | Report Abuse

all go to OCK dy ! insas i watch back after 92 sen break out again haha now dont see it .. sakit mata


tah16600
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Posted by tah16600 > Feb 14, 2020 4:42 PM | Report Abuse

On the eleventh hr of the exercise warrants, might shoot up to Rm 1
14/02/2020 4:37 PM


zendrya2
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Posted by zendrya2 > Feb 18, 2020 1:32 PM | Report Abuse

Aiyo this counter made me top up so much at .80 but now sakit mata to see.


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Feb 19, 2020 10:43 AM | Report Abuse

Raider's Senior sifu advice carefully consider this mah:

U NEED TO UNDERSTAND LOH...!!
WHEN RAIDER SAYS INSAS IS WORTH AT LEAST RM 3.50, IT IS A FACT LOH, ITS NTA PLUS INARI EXCESS MARK TO MKT PREMIUM EASILY EXCEED RM 3.50 LOH, THIS IS THE TRUTH NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH LOH...!!

HAVING SEEN THIS SITUATION,HOW CAN U PARTICIPATE IN THIS OPPORTUNITY LEH ??
1. U CAN INVEST INSAS AT RM 0.83 & HOLD LONG TERM.
2. U CAN PUNT INSAS-W AT RM 0.005 FOR A 2 MONTHS WINDOW MAH..!!

IF U CHOSE TO SPECULATE & LOSE MONIES LIKE MIKE BELOW NOW CRY BABY, BUYING INSAS-W 0.5 SEN, RAIDER PITY HIM, BCOS THE SPECULATION HAS FAILED EVEN WITH BEST EFFORT, IT IS A CALCULATED RISK WITH HUGE PAYOUT, IF SUCCESSFUL LOH...!! BUT DO NOT CRY BABY LIKE MIKE IF U FAILED LOH, BCOS U R SPECULATING WITH HUGE REWARD VALUE RATIO MAH...!!

ON THE HAND, IF U CHOSE TO INVEST IN INSAS AT RM 0.83, U R DOING JUST FINE, INSAS IS NOW ABOUT RM 0.86 AFTER 2 MTHS, WITH LONGEVITY OF INVESTMENT, IT CAN ATTAIN THE TARGET OF RM 3.50 A RESULT U CAN BE PROUD & CAN TELL YOUR CHILDREN OR YOUR GRAND CHILDREN YOUR SUCCESSFUL FORAY INTO AN UNDERVALUE MARGIN OF SAFETY INVESTMENT LOH....!!

Posted by stockraider > Dec 4, 2019 7:24 PM | Report Abuse X

Today substantial 21.366m of insas warrant B at rm 0.005 was traded in the market, that means potential large corporate raider, may want to ambush insas shares given that the thong family only hold 33% loh...!!

This is bcos insas inclusive of inari associate is worth at least Rm 3.50, that means it is worthwhile for corporate raider to attack insas at price even at above rm 1.00 loh...!!

The corporate raider have 2 to 3 mths to carry out their raiding campaign loh....!!

U have too choice to play insas loh....u either buy the mother insas at Rm 0.83 or u buy warrant B at Rm 0.005 loh....!!

For your info raider bought 1m insas warrant B at Rm 0.005 costing raider rm 5k loh...!!

Next raider will accumulate the mother share loh...!!

Posted by stockraider > Dec 4, 2019 7:49 PM | Report Abuse X

It is a small change to punt insas wb at 0.5 sen loh....!!

The key success factor is still insas mother which has intrinsic value of Rm 3.50 mah....!!

Posted by Mikecyc > Feb 19, 2020 10:06 AM | Report Abuse

See how is the 2 cheap Sifu Calvin and Raider con posts on Insas WB just to con people for RM 5000 :


Sslee
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Posted by Sslee > Feb 19, 2020 1:09 PM | Report Abuse

Hahahaha stockraider,
Tell me which god of Mercy temple you go to pray for someone to buy back your Insas-wb? I need to pray too so that Insas can go up to RM1.00 then RM2 then RM 3.


Philip (Can I advise you?)
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Posted by Philip (Can I advise you?) > Feb 19, 2020 3:22 PM | Report Abuse

In August 19 stoneraider said insas go to 90 cent.
In January 20 stoneraider said insas go to rm1.
Now in April 2020, stoneraider say insas can go to 3.50????

Who is giving false information here?

>>>>>>>>>

AFTER 2 MTHS, WITH LONGEVITY OF INVESTMENT, IT CAN ATTAIN THE TARGET OF RM 3.50 A RESULT U CAN BE PROUD & CAN TELL YOUR CHILDREN OR YOUR GRAND CHILDREN YOUR SUCCESSFUL FORAY INTO AN UNDERVALUE MARGIN OF SAFETY INVESTMENT LOH....!!


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Feb 19, 2020 8:53 PM | Report Abuse

U pakai otak..covid 19 virus, trade war and msia political crisis of course, we must kasi some allowance & adjustment sikit mah...!!

Macam Philip pun kata Pchem can go Rm 10.00 tapi sekarang baru Rm 6.56, raider pun understand mah....no need go to pchem complain everytime mah......!! Only complain 1 or 2 time only loh...!!

But most importantly...insas recommend 83 sen beli recently, sudah naik to 86 sen....all investor make monies within a period of 2 mths mah...!!

Posted by Philip (Can I advise you?) > Feb 19, 2020 3:22 PM | Report Abuse

In August 19 stoneraider said insas go to 90 cent.
In January 20 stoneraider said insas go to rm1.
Now in April 2020, stoneraider say insas can go to 3.50????

Who is giving false information here?


stockraider
14283 posts

Posted by stockraider > Feb 19, 2020 9:04 PM | Report Abuse

Thats why raider are so against 3iii promoting Dlady at Rm 66 , Nestle Rm 160 , Petdag rm 30 and padini rm 6 bcos just like Hengyuan & unlike insas, they have only earnings to show as anchor, thus when earnings falters its share price collapse loh...!!

Remember the nta of dlady rm 2.3, nestle rm 3, Petdag Rm 6 and Padini Rm 1.1 as usual 3iii may try to dismiss raider comment here loh...!!

NOT RAIDER WANTS TO FEAR U loh...!!
But it is true mah, just look at BAT in the heydays, it is rm 100, but today it collapse to low of rm 12. Why can fall like that leh ??
Bcos its NTA is only rm 1.50 loh...!!

Thats why raider say insas 83sen is great bcos it got both good earnings and NTA, thats why its margin of safety great & safe loh...!!

People like Sohai 3iii & Philip, can bring u all to holland, like in the case of BAT mah...!!

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Feb 19, 2020 11:14 AM | Report Abuse

>>>>>>

Posted by stockraider > Feb 19, 2020 10:41 AM | Report Abuse

U NEED TO UNDERSTAND LOH...!!
WHEN RAIDER SAYS INSAS IS WORTH AT LEAST RM 3.50, IT IS A FACT LOH, ITS NTA PLUS INARI EXCESS MARK TO MKT PREMIUM EASILY EXCEED RM 3.50 LOH, THIS IS THE TRUTH NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH LOH...!!

>>>>>>>


When raider said Hengyuan is worth at least RM 45.00, he too said it is a fact loh. Follow him at your peril. Always remember, no one is more interested in your money than yourself. Get educated financially and do not fall victims to shenanigans.


Philip (Can I advise you?)
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Posted by Philip (Can I advise you?) > Feb 19, 2020 10:31 PM | Report Abuse

Raider raider.... After so many years you still don't understand what is meant by assets? If you ever learn anything, learn that there are many different types of assets, otherwise you will keep falling into the same trap forever.

If you only use level one thinking then you should buy all the property stocks, TALAMT, ASIAPAC, bjland, etc those companies. Asiapac is a good deal right? Selling for 13 send today with nta more than 1 ringgit?

But the answer is simple: there are many different types of assets, just as the earnings return on assets and equities employed play a huge difference in valuation.

It is pointless to shout insas is worth rm3.50, sapura is worth 0.86 per share, ASIAPAC is worth rm1 if you do it without context of the quality of the asset.

Why do people spend so much money to chase dlady? A company that has a net asset of RM 2.3 is about to produce rm1.65 in net earnings. Imagine how efficient that is. In comparison, a company like sape with 13 billion in "assets", last year has a asset value of 0.86 per share, but made you a loss of 2 ringgit.

Why is context important? It gives you a story of impairments. What is the real value of the assets, and how much in actuality you can monetize it. It answers the question why TALAMT, ASIAPAC, insas, sapura seem to be stuck for such a long time, while other stocks keep going up and up.

In the end all that matters is earnings per share, how much debt is being raised to fetch those earnings, how efficient the assets are in growing earnings, and how much you the shareholder is getting from your ownership of shares ( buybacks, dividends, etc)

If you want to keep on using NTA as your investment metric, at least do it properly and put it in the context of earnings return on assets employed, ROE, and assets to earnings growth.

In either case, if you need to chase, chase future earnings growth, instead of buying NTA accounting companies.

Else, just dump all your money into those developer companies. They have all the cheap assets you can ever want ( empty unsold condo which you have to pay loan and interest every year).


stockraider
14283 posts

Posted by stockraider > Feb 19, 2020 11:24 PM | Report Abuse

This Philip is dead wrong & out mah...read carefully mah....raider rely both NTA and earnings of insas mah....!!

"Thats why raider say insas 83sen is great bcos it got both has good earnings and NTA, thats why its margin of safety is great & safe loh"...!!

On the issue on "assets of no income" and assets with "high ROE" make this fallacies loh...!!

1. If u have piece of empty in kota kinabalu, but have no income or u may even make losses bcos u have to pay for outgoing of the land...can u tell me your piece of empty has no value meh ??
Of course not loh..!!
Thus the same applies to share with high NTA share, but have low return or no return, of course they always be some good value on your nta loh..!!
Warren Buffet also says NTA is an approximate value of a fair value .

2. Imagine u have Nestle, the ROE of 70%, does that means u give more capital to nestle...it still can generate 70% return on the extra capital leh ??
The answer is NO mah....!! This is bcos extra capital will have little use, it will even bring down the high ROE mah..!!
Thus NESTLE have no choice but to distribute high dividend loh..!!

3 Say Nestle ROE 70% & nta is Rm 3.00 thus it return is rm 2.10 pa.
Or your prefer Aa PALM OIL company that have NTA of Rm 30.00 but generate a roe of 7% pa thus give u a same return of rm 2.10 PA loh...!!

ANYBODY WHO IS NOT A FOOL WILL CHOSE Aa PALM OIL COMPANY instead OF NESTLE MAH...BCOS WHEN NESTLE COMPANY EARNINGS FALTERED, IT WILL WORTH RM 3.00 MAH, WHEREAS in case of Aa COMPANY U STILL CAN LOOK UP FOR THE RM 30.00 NTA when its earning falter MAH..!!

THUS THIS HOW INVESTMENT IN INSAS IS FORMULATED AS A VIABLE INVESTMENT WITH BIG MARGIN OF SAFETY LOH.....!!


Sslee
2232 posts

Posted by Sslee > Feb 20, 2020 12:30 AM | Report Abuse

Hahahaha
If insas distribute it cash as dividend then it ROE will increase.


qqq33333333
181 posts

Posted by qqq33333333 > Feb 20, 2020 12:33 AM | Report Abuse

one year already.............how many one year does a man have?


for genuine investors, 12 months money....there were at least a few dozen shares that gave 100% returns or more in last 12 months................


leno
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Posted by leno > Feb 20, 2020 9:57 AM | Report Abuse

WOW really ? Did you mortgaged your house, cars and everything u have, and even go to borrow money to invest in these dozen of 100% return or MORE last 12 months ago ? No ? Why NOT ? Sudah BODO dan GILA KAH ? Sincere CONDOLONCES to u okay ... share market is not your cup of tea. ... go womewhere else. HAHAHAHAHAHAH...

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