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valour
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Posted by valour > Jun 4, 2019 10:33 AM | Report Abuse

Anyone come across PE more than shares price . This counter can be possible it's a miracle !!! Asiapac " Boleh "


valour
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Posted by valour > Jun 4, 2019 10:56 AM | Report Abuse

Mmmmm...deMusangking not fun to spar with u . Lousy replies and repetitive . Boring


valour
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Posted by valour > Jun 4, 2019 11:05 AM | Report Abuse

Haha..U joker I not big shareholder . U probably down more than me a 100 times


valour
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Posted by valour > Jun 4, 2019 11:07 AM | Report Abuse

Another special offer 0.08 a kilo for Musang King


SincereStock
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Posted by SincereStock > Jun 4, 2019 11:28 AM | Report Abuse

I think is better we don't response too much to demusang's repetive trash talk, that will only distract people from valid positive comments

these video better than all talkings

https://youtu.be/GsOXvaZHapQ

https://youtu.be/HcnYTik1GPc


Shinnzaii
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Posted by Shinnzaii > Jun 4, 2019 12:52 PM | Report Abuse

wew...hari raya...shopping happy happy so meriah got event singing some more.. first time look at imago mall so meriah...maybe Mr Philip went that time dont have season and event...


Shinnzaii
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Posted by Shinnzaii > Jun 4, 2019 12:53 PM | Report Abuse

>sincerestock...normal day or weekend also crowd like that?hehe


banker33
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Posted by banker33 > Jun 4, 2019 12:58 PM | Report Abuse

Very funny this i3investor forum as we see those who didn't buy or hold any shares here are the ones who make the most noise hoping that this counter will masuk longkang, to them I say fat hope, carry on dreaming till year 2028, hahaha


valour
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Posted by valour > Jun 4, 2019 1:15 PM | Report Abuse

banker33
Nope...by May 2022 all loan stocks n warrants will be converted automatically . Warrants will be worthless ...0.25 to convert to mother share . Major shareholders lose big time


SincereStock
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Posted by SincereStock > Jun 4, 2019 1:28 PM | Report Abuse

@valour no need wait 2022 they already converting some of iculs to ordinary shares, but minor shareholders still panic selling their shares at below Rm0.20

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5906013

we don't know what is in major shareholders mind, but they converting iculs to ordinary shares at Rm0.20 is truth recorded in bursamalaysia


SincereStock
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Posted by SincereStock > Jun 4, 2019 1:29 PM | Report Abuse

@valour they lose 3% annual interest by converting prematurely


valour
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Posted by valour > Jun 4, 2019 1:34 PM | Report Abuse

True...that's why I say Asiapac " Boleh " . Maybe we can make a report to Bursa on these weird trade


valour
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Posted by valour > Jun 4, 2019 1:37 PM | Report Abuse

Some of the buying n selling is among themselves ....operators


nckcm
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Posted by nckcm > Jun 4, 2019 1:37 PM | Report Abuse

hhaahha everyday season raya ka? Bodoh why now only show video. Dont dare show off season video ka?


Philip (Can I advise you?)
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Posted by Philip (Can I advise you?) > Jun 4, 2019 1:39 PM | Report Abuse

let me put it into perspective for you.

The valuation of and intrinsic value of Imago I have no idea, same as I do not know if the big crowd there is a spending crowd or just there to enjoy aircon, eat dinner and do window shopping.

But here are relevant facts. this is what is being paid by asiapac every year.


Imago mall valuation: valuation estimate is 400 million. My valuation is day to day operations + parking - debt generated to build imago mall.



construction cost was 700 million. total units was 631 for sale, imago mall is not for sale. balance debt after sales and unsold units up to date is around 300 million, plus minus a few million.

here is the kicker,
in this year,
mall operations:
Revenue (85.4 million) this quarter 24.6 million, income (22.42 million) this quarter 7.8 million.
Carpark operations: (10.1 million) this quarter 2.6million, income (5.8 million ) this quarter 1.18 million.

in previous year,
Mall operations contributed RM52.3 million in revenue and segment profit of RM15.1 million, respectively representing an increase of RM9.6 million, or 22.5% and RM17.2 million, or 835% from the preceding year of RM42.7 million and loss of RM2.1 million.

so in total the returns are
27.2 million this year
16.3 million last year
-2.1 million year before.

How much is the debt generated?
the total debt outlay is 337 million still outstanding, debt encurred finance cost of

22.3 million this year
26.1 million last year

finance costs alone. We have not even begun to touch the capital borrowings.

Before you go into saying but Asiapac made 52.684 million in net profit last year and saying everything is fine, you should ask yourself, how much is real generated cash flow, and how much is paper profits from fair value adjustments?

The answer is very clear:
45.8 million is from non-cash items.
Real cash generated from operations is 14.12 million.

Basically the question to ponder on why the stock price has not gone above 20 cents since 2015 is very simple.

If you borrow 337 million to buy a property, every year your finance costs alone will be around 6.6% or 22.3 million. but if the income returns from the mall net is only 24.6+2.6 million, you only make a profit of 5 million every year, to reduce that 337 million borrowings which can kill you if the rates revise up. Is the investment worth it?

you can say whatever you want on how much your property and project is worth. you can say you are worth 1.4 billion, but the fact remains, if no one is willing to pay you 1.4 billion for your assets you are worth nothing. and every year you have to service your loans and borrowings (at 6%) before even cutting into the principal sum. Do you think you can get a return of more than 10% to pay off finance costs and reduce principal borrowings?

If you think Asiapac can do it, then ASIAPAC is a good investment.


Philip (Can I advise you?)
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Posted by Philip (Can I advise you?) > Jun 4, 2019 1:41 PM | Report Abuse

But don't take my word for it, this is the reply from the management team of ASIAPAC themselves.

Anticipated Risks
We believe that there is a general oversupply of retail space in Kota Kinabalu as newer malls are introduced into the local market such as ITCC Penampang, Jesselton Mall, Aeropod and Pacific Mall (yet to open), on top of existing mega malls such as Suria Sabah and 1Borneo. The opening of more stores will give shoppers more options and may potentially make Imago less exclusive. Nevertheless, we believe that strong management and creative experiential marketing along with constant fresh attractions will keep Imago relevant.

Outlook
We believe that the general retail market will continue to be weak as people are still looking for positive indications on the economy. The oversupply of retail space is affecting rental rates as mall owners are fighting for the limited number of quality brands available in the market.


nckcm
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Posted by nckcm > Jun 4, 2019 1:41 PM | Report Abuse

There u go. Otherwise this QR wont be making loss, using accounting technique to look good. Pathetic


valour
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Posted by valour > Jun 4, 2019 1:42 PM | Report Abuse

Another hate filled tirade so predictable . Really no fun


Philip (Can I advise you?)
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Posted by Philip (Can I advise you?) > Jun 4, 2019 2:05 PM | Report Abuse

Hi valour, this is not a hate filled tirade. In fact I enjoy going to imago and hope no problems arise, it is the best managed mall in KK.
Madam Kwan just opened, and I like it very much, this nasi bojari.

However.....

there is a difference between investing and scuttlebutt.

I only seek to explain why since 2015 the shareprice is going down, why the PE is so low (PE can also mean price expectation for company growth), why a 1.4 billion NTA company need to raise funds borrow money and do ICULS.

In life it is the same as in investing. Stay away from debt, huge borrowings and inability to grow the business. Understand your competitors and peers and how the industry is doing as a whole. Do profitable activities and stay away from loss making companies.

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Posted by valour > Jun 4, 2019 1:42 PM | Report Abuse
Another hate filled tirade so predictable . Really no fun


calvintaneng
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Posted by calvintaneng > Jun 4, 2019 2:07 PM | Report Abuse

PHILIP

YOU MUST TAKE NOTE THAT ASIAPAC DIRECTORS/INSIDERS ARE ALL HOLDING THEIR SHARES TIGHTLY AS HIGH AS 30 SEN

IF THEY ARE BEARISH THEY WOULD HAVE SOLD AND NOT HOLDING ON

IF INSIDERS HOLDING AT 30 SEN OUTSIDERS LIKE US CAN HAPPILY HOLD AT 13.5 SEN


valour
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Posted by valour > Jun 4, 2019 2:16 PM | Report Abuse

Philip
Not from u . Nckcm


Philip (Can I advise you?)
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Posted by Philip (Can I advise you?) > Jun 4, 2019 2:19 PM | Report Abuse

This is very true, but another true point is did they pay 30 sen for their shares? Are they buying more shares at 13.5 sen?

The last time asiapac directors bought shares were in 2016 after listening to calvintaneng buy call.

The last time asiapac major shareholder buy shares were in 2015 after listening to calvintaneng buy call.

The last time company do a major buyback of shares at low price 13.5 sen was...……… NEVER.

If directors don't buy shares at cheap prices, major shareholders don't buy shares at cheap price, company doesn't do buyback (or dividend) at cheap prices.... why should general public buy a 1.4 billion NTA company at cheap prices?

Oh wait.... they don't. ASIAPAC is worth 160 million because all stuck due to Paster KONG HEE RECOMMENDATION err I mean Calvin Tan the FRAUD.

Rights issue in 2017,
ICULLS in 2018.

Where is the money? Why no profit? Why need to raise more and more and more money from general public?

Only PASTOR CALVINTANENG FROM I3 HARVEST CHURCH KINOWS... or does he?

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Posted by calvintaneng > Jun 4, 2019 2:07 PM | Report Abuse
PHILIP

YOU MUST TAKE NOTE THAT ASIAPAC DIRECTORS/INSIDERS ARE ALL HOLDING THEIR SHARES TIGHTLY AS HIGH AS 30 SEN

IF THEY ARE BEARISH THEY WOULD HAVE SOLD AND NOT HOLDING ON

IF INSIDERS HOLDING AT 30 SEN OUTSIDERS LIKE US CAN HAPPILY HOLD AT 13.5 SEN


calvintaneng
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Posted by calvintaneng > Jun 4, 2019 2:24 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by (US/CHN trade war doesn't matter) Philip > Jun 4, 2019 2:19 PM | Report Abuse

{{{The last time asiapac directors bought shares were in 2016 after listening to calvintaneng buy call.

The last time asiapac major shareholder buy shares were in 2015 after listening to calvintaneng buy call. }}}

SATAN IS THE FATHER OF LIES

PHILIP IS THE SON OF SATAN AND THE CHIEF ANTI CHRIST!!!

WHERE GOT PROOFS DIRECTORS BOUGHT ASIAPAC AT 30 SEN AFTER LISTENING TO CALVIN

A BIG LIAR LIKE PHILIP WILL KENA GOD'S WRATH IF YOU DON'T REPENT!!

SOMETHING BAD MIGHT HAPPEN TO YOU OR YOUR FAMILY IN RETRIBUTION!!


nckcm
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Posted by nckcm > Jun 4, 2019 2:26 PM | Report Abuse

Hahahhaha truth revealed ! A so called scam pastor !


Philip (Can I advise you?)
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Posted by Philip (Can I advise you?) > Jun 4, 2019 2:30 PM | Report Abuse

pausing for effect.... I apologize. I forgot that no smart investor listens to calvin at all. Only 20 year old new kids into I3 who think calvin is a chun chun call artist.

But this becomes worse... if they did not listen to calvin and buy ASIAPAC... why did they buy ASIAPAC and get stuck at 30 sen in the first place? Are they getting another source of income? Say..... millions of director fees?

>>>>>>

WHERE GOT PROOFS DIRECTORS BOUGHT ASIAPAC AT 30 SEN AFTER LISTENING TO CALVIN


calvintaneng
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Posted by calvintaneng > Jun 4, 2019 2:35 PM | Report Abuse

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Posted by (US/CHN trade war doesn't matter) Philip > Jun 4, 2019 2:27 PM | Report Abuse

Sorry calvin, I am already in your WhatsApp group. Why do you think you pxxxd me off and made me start a proper portfolio so you will not be another city harvest church founder and add new members to follow you buycalls?

Think carefully, I don't give 2 shakes of a leg how you do your investing.

But if you start pulling in 20 year old kids to go into margin and put a huge chunk of borrowed money into your loss making investments with no margin of safety at all, and make them go bankrupt.

I will go at you with every force I am able to muster.

I WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO CHEAT, DEFRAUD AND HURT LITTLE KIDS.


HAHAHA!

SO YOU ARE IN MY WHATASPP LIST?

YOU JUST REVEALED

OKOK

NOW BE VERY VERY HONEST AND DON'T TELL ANY MORE LIES

CALVIN NEVER EVER ENCOURAGE BUYING SHARES ON MARGIN

AND LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN

THOSE WHO FOLLOWED CALVIN BUY CALLS THIS JANUARY TO APRIL 2019 HAVE ALL MADE GOOD MONIES IF THEY ALSO FOLLOW 2 STRONG SELL CALLS TO GET OUT BY APRIL 2019

SEE

TIME TO TAKE PROFIT ON HOT STOCKS & OTHERS DUE TO T3 TURNING T2 & OTHER REASONS, Calvin Tan Research

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/203130.jsp


BEST TIME TO SELL ALL LIMIT UP STOCKS AND ALL THAT GONE UP ALOT TODAY, Be Fearful when Others Greedy, Calvin Tan Research


https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/203386.jsp


Philip (Can I advise you?)
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Posted by Philip (Can I advise you?) > Jun 4, 2019 2:35 PM | Report Abuse

Directors are getting paid fat fees to do nothing for the shareholders except do RI and ICULS.

Meanwhile.... Calvin has not been receiving any increase in share price or dividends since 2015.

So sad, must pray for him. He says he has 200% returns though, but if he invested in companies like TALAMT, PROTASCO, KARAMBUNAI and ASIAPAC can you really believe him?

For other investors I apologize, the only person I do this to is CALVINTANENG, this Singaporean snake has been irritating me for a long while now, and he started a WhatsApp scam to get followers to follow him bulk buy into stocks which he frontrun, so I am pretty much here to destroy him.


SincereStock
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Posted by SincereStock > Jun 4, 2019 2:36 PM | Report Abuse

reluctantly, but I had to admit you gave some good points that I cannot deny Philip. thank for sharing your thoughts wise man.

@calvin i think you misunderstood, philip never imply that directors bought asiapac after listening to you, of course they won't, what philip says is that directors never bought any more share listening to you.

everyone, no matter which side you are at, please be mature and don't do personal insults.


nckcm
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Posted by nckcm > Jun 4, 2019 2:36 PM | Report Abuse

Give you sweets at first then ask u buy stocks turning point into huge losses.! At first u wont believe him so u buy a bit and get good gains, after believing him u buy more than previously and make huge loss !


calvintaneng
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Posted by calvintaneng > Jun 4, 2019 2:38 PM | Report Abuse

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Posted by (US/CHN trade war doesn't matter) Philip > Jun 4, 2019 2:27 PM | Report Abuse

Sorry calvin, I am already in your WhatsApp group. Why do you think you pxxxd me off and made me start a proper portfolio so you will not be another city harvest church founder and add new members to follow you buycalls?

Think carefully, I don't give 2 shakes of a leg how you do your investing.

But if you start pulling in 20 year old kids to go into margin and put a huge chunk of borrowed money into your loss making investments with no margin of safety at all, and make them go bankrupt.

I will go at you with every force I am able to muster.

I WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO CHEAT, DEFRAUD AND HURT LITTLE KIDS.


HAHAHA!

SO YOU ARE IN MY WHATASPP LIST?

YOU JUST REVEALED

OKOK

NOW BE VERY VERY HONEST AND DON'T TELL ANY MORE LIES

CALVIN NEVER EVER ENCOURAGE BUYING SHARES ON MARGIN

AND LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN

THOSE WHO FOLLOWED CALVIN BUY CALLS THIS JANUARY TO APRIL 2019 HAVE ALL MADE GOOD MONIES IF THEY ALSO FOLLOW 2 STRONG SELL CALLS TO GET OUT BY APRIL 2019

SEE

TIME TO TAKE PROFIT ON HOT STOCKS & OTHERS DUE TO T3 TURNING T2 & OTHER REASONS, Calvin Tan Research

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/203130.jsp


BEST TIME TO SELL ALL LIMIT UP STOCKS AND ALL THAT GONE UP ALOT TODAY, Be Fearful when Others Greedy, Calvin Tan Research


https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/203386.jsp


calvintaneng
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Posted by calvintaneng > Jun 4, 2019 2:39 PM | Report Abuse

LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN

THOSE WHO FOLLOWED CALVIN BUY CALLS THIS JANUARY TO APRIL 2019 HAVE ALL MADE GOOD MONIES IF THEY ALSO FOLLOW 2 STRONG SELL CALLS TO GET OUT BY APRIL 2019

SEE

TIME TO TAKE PROFIT ON HOT STOCKS & OTHERS DUE TO T3 TURNING T2 & OTHER REASONS, Calvin Tan Research

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/203130.jsp


BEST TIME TO SELL ALL LIMIT UP STOCKS AND ALL THAT GONE UP ALOT TODAY, Be Fearful when Others Greedy, Calvin Tan Research


https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/203386.jsp


Philip (Can I advise you?)
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Posted by Philip (Can I advise you?) > Jun 4, 2019 4:25 PM | Report Abuse

Calvin knows nothing about asianpac or Sabah business except what he sees from an annual report. This kind of investing anyone can b do. That's why he has to buy 36 stocks to "diversify" and reduce his average risk. But his portfolio is a diverse pile of crap.

You will not find long term wealth here.


KWAP
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Posted by KWAP > Jun 4, 2019 4:30 PM | Report Abuse

Calvin lost 20% in Uzma in 1 mth.


nckcm
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Posted by nckcm > Jun 4, 2019 4:37 PM | Report Abuse

Thanks KWAP for mass selling Uzma


calvintaneng
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Posted by calvintaneng > Jun 4, 2019 5:17 PM | Report Abuse

TRASH?

WAHAHA!

SEE

One Man's Trash is Another Man's Treasure (Calvin Tan Research)
Author: calvintaneng | Publish date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017, 9:10 PM

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/134447.jsp


SEE DOLOMITE SOLD QUARRY LAND AND GONE LIMIT UP!!

https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/5835.jsp


PHILIP JUST LIKE TUNNEL VISIONED 3iii BOTH LIKE A COW IN INVESTMENT

ONLY BUYING GROWTH STOCKS AND DOES NOT KNOW ABOUT CYCLICALS, TURNAROUND STOCKS, ASSETS PLAY OR NET NET CIGAR BUT STOCKS OF BEN GRAHAM

PETER LYNCH SAID THERE ARE 6 CATEGORY OF STOCKS JUST LIKE MANY TYPES OF FOOD

Stalwarts. .
Slow Growers..
Fast Growers. ...
Cyclicals. ...
Turnarounds. ...
Asset Plays.

COWS ONLY EAT ONLY TYPE OF FOOD = ALL VEGETATION

A HUMAN BEING IS HOLISTIC. HE EATS

1) VEGETABLE SALAD (Slow growers)

2) BEEF STAKE (Fast growers)

3) ROOT PLANTS LIKE SWEET POTATOES BURIES OUT OF SIGHT (ASSET PLAY)

4) SEAFOOD ( CYCLICALS)

5) SALTED FISH (TURNAROUND)

6) PBA/YTL POWER (STALWARTS)


SEE PHILIP ONLY BUY QL, PUBLIC BANK, TOP GLOVE TYPE OF VEGETABLE STOCKS LIKE A COW AND BUY NOTHING OUTSIDE THAT CATEGORY. JUST LIKE A COW CANNOT EAT BEEF STEAK?


BETTER WAKE UP!!!


calvintaneng
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Posted by calvintaneng > Jun 4, 2019 5:34 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by Hunter 88 Hunter 88 > Jun 4, 2019 5:28 PM | Report Abuse

We will see who the best research


WHAT RESEARCH?

COWS ONLY DO ONE TYPE OF SEARCH

SEARCH FOR GRASS AND VEGETATION!!!

HOW CAN COW DO RESEARCH?

COW TYPE OF INVESTORS WILL NEVER EVER BUY CYCLICALS, TURNAROUND OR ASSET PLAYS

NEITHER DO COW EVER EAT BEEF STEAK!


Hunter 8888
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Posted by Hunter 8888 > Jun 4, 2019 5:41 PM | Report Abuse

Hahaha.calvintaneng bo...doh.super lembu.


xiaoji
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Posted by xiaoji > Jun 5, 2019 12:57 AM | Report Abuse

use the same price, better buy marco, at least a net cash company and every year dividend.
i just comment, do not own any marco and asiapac(use to own many years ago, also due to the revaluation which made the QR profit 1000%)


calvintaneng
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Posted by calvintaneng > Jun 5, 2019 7:28 AM | Report Abuse

Xiaoji

Marco sells calculator and others mediocre products which give mediocre dividend. It is ok.

But look at something better than that.

As Warren Buffet says if he is out looking for a 7 foot man a 5 feet 5 inch won't do.

So getting 3% to 5% a year is mediocre. Try to strive for at least 7% or more. Compounding over time you will beat inflation


banker33
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Posted by banker33 > Jun 5, 2019 7:36 AM | Report Abuse

Posted by nckcm > Jun 4, 2019 1:37 PM | Report Abuse

hhaahha everyday season raya ka? Bodoh why now only show video. Dont dare show off season video ka?


why you scold people bodoh when you don't buy any shares at all but now and then go against this counter especially what buyers said. if you don't want to buy, then just move on to other counter , no need to scold people bodoh when he didn't scold you at all. period.


banker33
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Posted by banker33 > Jun 5, 2019 7:38 AM | Report Abuse

Posted by nckcm > Jun 4, 2019 1:37 PM | Report Abuse

hhaahha everyday season raya ka? Bodoh why now only show video. Dont dare show off season video ka?


it's their money and what they buy is none of your business as it's not using your money, so whether the buyers earns or loses it not your gain or loss, so why so kaypo?


nckcm
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Posted by nckcm > Jun 5, 2019 8:16 AM | Report Abuse

No because u all trying to convince people to buy this stock. Theres a reason why this stock share price wont go up even though super low PE. As simple as it is, this stock cant repay debt efficiently. So better not touch it


nckcm
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Posted by nckcm > Jun 5, 2019 8:17 AM | Report Abuse

Maybe it may fly again operator goreng this stock, then its the best time for holders to exit again.


valour
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Posted by valour > Jun 5, 2019 10:20 AM | Report Abuse

nckcm/deMusang
U guys remind me of Donald Trump . Hahaha


valour
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Posted by valour > Jun 5, 2019 10:54 AM | Report Abuse

Better to laugh than cry my fren . Nothing last forever . Maybe ur karma will pay u back


nckcm
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Posted by nckcm > Jun 5, 2019 11:33 AM | Report Abuse

Haiya k la. This stock wont die yet but the debt they really really need to settle.


calvintaneng
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Posted by calvintaneng > Jun 5, 2019 11:43 AM | Report Abuse

Must learn to differentiate between good and bad debt

If you buy a high end car with loan for consumption or just to show off then the debt is very bad as it will be detrimental long term

But if you borrow to invest in income generating assets or business then it is good debt.

Asiapac still has many assets including 400 acres of land in Labu.

If needs be these could be sold off to settle debt then all the rental from imago mall and car parks could be used for paying future dividends

Then asiapac will turn into a reit like igb or hectar reit

So look at things in their proper perspective


valour
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Posted by valour > Jun 5, 2019 12:29 PM | Report Abuse

Hey...agreed all the bank loans to buy properties then paid off now worth a lot now . All near SS2 u think how many times appreciate...haha


valour
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Posted by valour > Jun 5, 2019 12:38 PM | Report Abuse

If don't know ask Mr Mah the bungalow if he bought it at $120k then... now can sell for how much .


valour
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Posted by valour > Jun 5, 2019 12:44 PM | Report Abuse

Wait lah...patience is a virtue .

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