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7,790 comment(s). Last comment by chhn461 at Dec 5, 2020 8:28 PM
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Jerichomy
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Posted by Jerichomy > Dec 4, 2020 8:24 PM | Report Abuse

Heng Yuan like KYY fried it last time....anyway, the heng yuan share too mahal...if stuck there at penthouse, take many years to recover LOL


stockwinner
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Posted by stockwinner > Dec 5, 2020 1:12 AM | Report Abuse

Bankruptcy is the next theme.


Tourism, Aviation suffer the most.


Construction will come after, if no project from gov. That's why the share price can go even lower.


Gov cut budget, residential and commercial property slump, people no job/income.


Buy cement to eat?


stockwinner
652 posts

Posted by stockwinner > Dec 5, 2020 1:19 AM | Report Abuse

Petronas suffer big losses, europe us boycott plam oil, budget deficit, tourism mati, plantation mati, construction mati.




Gov mana ada wang for gigantic project?


Jerichomy
716 posts

Posted by Jerichomy > Dec 5, 2020 1:36 AM | Report Abuse

Omg something wrong with stockwinner....maybe lose too much in gloves


stockwinner
652 posts

Posted by stockwinner > Dec 5, 2020 1:38 AM | Report Abuse

Our country is having poor performing economy, rising unemployment rate, market uncertainties and covid scare.


So you think the gov will Increase gov spending by reviving mega projects?





So the people need mega projects now?


Jerichomy
716 posts

Posted by Jerichomy > Dec 5, 2020 1:52 AM | Report Abuse

I don’t see stockwinner in. SupermX forum so you are lying...Lo!


stockwinner
652 posts

Posted by stockwinner > Dec 5, 2020 1:52 AM | Report Abuse

Ppl want to withdraw money from EPF to buy food, necessities.

Have to spend future money to survive.



Gov will likely to give more cash aid to the people,


NOT mega superfast luxury speed train.


henry888
1221 posts

Posted by henry888 > Dec 5, 2020 5:57 AM | Report Abuse

@stockwinner. probably you are trader, not mid or long term investors. You said you sold already YTL. How much you earned from this trading??? The game just started when the price pop up from 0.645 and you probably bought in the range of 0.645 and above, how much you can earned ??? But we can't blame this kind of persons, it is the nature of human being when they sold they will spoke bad about the counter and even the economy as a whole.Anyway, if you are not interested in this counter, please shy away and stop talking nonsense/shits in this forum.


williamtkb
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Posted by williamtkb > Dec 5, 2020 6:41 AM | Report Abuse

Bought 0.645 and sold 0.715 already. 10% profit in days. YTL is old man stock, move very slow. Others all more than 30% already


henry888
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Posted by henry888 > Dec 5, 2020 7:41 AM | Report Abuse

May be, but from my experience, most of the times that is the strategy of the operator to sway weak holders and i don't means this stock must perform in that logic manner. Anything is possible and so is investment.


Jerichomy
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Posted by Jerichomy > Dec 5, 2020 7:47 AM | Report Abuse

Yes, It depend on operator....ur experienced traders, henry888


henry888
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Posted by henry888 > Dec 5, 2020 7:53 AM | Report Abuse

But i guess Friday sell down is due to political as Perak BN support no confident vote which many ppl might think that will do same in the coming budget. Personally, i do feels that this is just an issue of BN wanted to hold important post in the state and will not impede the budget 2021 as BN already had given an assurance letter earlier and just recently after the Perak event Encik Ahmad Maslan have clarified the issue in the news media.


Up_again
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Posted by Up_again > Dec 5, 2020 8:00 AM | Report Abuse

Not just the infra boys, but companies with large land banks or Johor based property players like KSL already minimum 30% up with all the infra speculation.

Plus a major infrastructure like HSR or Mrt3 is funded by multiple year budgets, not just next year.
Case in point is Gemas-Jb double tracking, next’s year budget still have to fund even though construction already 2 years


chhn461
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Posted by chhn461 > Dec 5, 2020 8:46 AM | Report Abuse

Whether you like it or not, HSR will happen. It's already so clear from the foreshadowing from the budget allocation towards recovering the economy.

If your logic is government no money so no need to do anything, just hold on to yourselves and wait for doomsday, then you should see how flawed your logic is.

Government has money, lots of it, just not showing it around like a dai lancao. It's just the people don't.


abang_misai
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Posted by abang_misai > Dec 5, 2020 9:51 AM | Report Abuse

YTL has been consistently paying dividends or sorts year after year.

How much can we lose if we buy at this level of 0.685? Volume transactions were huge in the recent past due to adjustment to portfolios made by some big funds, resulting in the significant sliding of YTL’s share price.

I believe when the media starts to highlight the cement rising average selling price, YTL will definitely fire upwards crazily. This is how it pans out for steel stocks.

Given it’s a cement & HSR play, it cannot be wrong to hoot YTL at 0.685. Many stocks minus YTL have recovered to respective pre-pandemic levels. I will continue to collect.


stockwinner
652 posts

Posted by stockwinner > Dec 5, 2020 10:43 AM | Report Abuse

Its about the focus and priority of gov spending given the poor economic and political situation.


Focus will be on direct cash aids, tax cut, increasing jobs or monetory tools etc to increase the aggregate demand.


Gov investment on Mega projects will be the last consideration given the market uncertainties. And focus will probably be on basic infra such as

to built more Hospitals in Sabah Sarawak, E-learning facilities for schools or universities, Public Day care service, Public buses, ot LRT for cities outside Klang Valley.



Also, Peoples are angry with Mega projects of the past.



How is government going to justify to the people with the hypothetical Mega Project spending?
Instead of more Hospitals or Schools?


chhn461
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Posted by chhn461 > Dec 5, 2020 11:14 AM | Report Abuse

So it's not one or another. You can have both ways. False argument.

Didn't you say you were going to buy back lol? stfu boi


chhn461
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Posted by chhn461 > Dec 5, 2020 11:17 AM | Report Abuse

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.malaymail.com/amp/news/malaysia/2020/12/02/pmo-more-details-on-kl-singapore-hsr-project-malaysia-in-due-course/1928269

Wait for more announcements. And before then, goreng it up.


chhn461
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Posted by chhn461 > Dec 5, 2020 11:38 AM | Report Abuse

Here's the thing tho. In the case that HSR cancels, do you know how much profit the cement can bring in?

I suggest you look up the cement price in China, it's accelerating like a bull since September. Malaysia will follow.


henry888
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Posted by henry888 > Dec 5, 2020 12:13 PM | Report Abuse

Agreed, really it will be in good demand especially post covid pandemic. Share always run ahead of future, that is the fact. Just looks at hiaptek (from 0.20++ until now 0.40++ in less than 1 month), eventhough not the same category but the basis of catalyst for share rising is the same.


stockwinner
652 posts

Posted by stockwinner > Dec 5, 2020 1:32 PM | Report Abuse

Basic economics - demand and supply curve.


Increase in Cement price will lead to lower demand quantity, all else equal.
i.e. producer selling at fewer quantities.
Simply put: Price increase, business buy less cement. Producer sell less.



Increase in Cement price will also increase market supply of cements in the long run
i.e. more competitors now want to sell cement.
Supply increase, causing downward pressure on cements due to surplus.


Conclusion: Higher cement price is not sustainable in the long run, nor the producers will actually profit from it due to lower demand.


ilovemalsyia
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Posted by ilovemalsyia > Dec 5, 2020 2:11 PM | Report Abuse

@stockwinner confirm.com must be DAP mindset. Since PRU14, they cancelled or postponed most of the country infrastructures for one reason, "Save Money". Thus, they took 84bil from Petronad, selling bulks of KHAZANAH assets like IHH, CIMB, TNB, AXIATA, etc, RM40bil+ evaporated, increase plenty of new taxes,RPGT, digital tax... all happened just in two years. What the rakyat get? RM30 TnGo? Ironically, after cancel most of the infras and took the money from coffer and taxes, Malaysia fiscal deficit and total government debts skyrocketed from 2.9% to 3.8% and 686bil to 800bil respectively in end of 2019.

Now you asking PN gov go back for PH GAGALKRASI way to keep selling assets and abolish infras? Do you know Thailand and Indonesia already started ground work for high speed rail?

God bless Malaysia, PH collapsed, if no our country sure lack behind the regional peers.


chhn461
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Posted by chhn461 > Dec 5, 2020 2:32 PM | Report Abuse

What do you mean lower demand? You dumb ass.

YOU BUILD DA INFRA U NEED MATERIALS.

YOU TRY HAGGLE LO, SEE IF THEY SELL U

and wtf do you mean competitors, after buying out Lafarge, they ARE a Monopoly.

stockwhiner talking less and less sense. And besides, what is his reason for being in this thread if he has no vested interest lol.


stockwinner
652 posts

Posted by stockwinner > Dec 5, 2020 2:56 PM | Report Abuse

More like a oligopoly market, not monopoly.

Look at TNB and Puspakom, that's more like monopoly.

Higher cement price will always resulting lower demand. Because business will buy less.
Simple.

Will you buy more flour if flour price increase?

If you do, you are chasing high. End up with more flours in your kitchen.




P.S. Stockwhiner supports MIC only.


chhn461
46 posts

Posted by chhn461 > Dec 5, 2020 3:07 PM | Report Abuse

We're talking about 70% market share. What's monopoly to you, dummy


stockwinner
652 posts

Posted by stockwinner > Dec 5, 2020 3:14 PM | Report Abuse

@ilovemalsyia



According to your donkey logic,
PH ruined the country in just less than 2 years?



"wow" - Owen Wilson



Keyword: PERWAJA, BMF, PKFZ, 1MDB, TRX, SRC, Cincin.


Lanmum
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Posted by Lanmum > Dec 5, 2020 3:19 PM | Report Abuse

Jus wondering is ytl corp as project winner?. I can't find any related announcement leh


chhn461
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Posted by chhn461 > Dec 5, 2020 3:44 PM | Report Abuse

The project is split into many parts, there will be many beneficiaries. YTL was previously handling it.


Lanmum
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Posted by Lanmum > Dec 5, 2020 4:16 PM | Report Abuse

Chhn461, any confirmation ytl secure the southern section? News did mention I know.


chhn461
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Posted by chhn461 > Dec 5, 2020 4:30 PM | Report Abuse

Any official confirmation you will have to wait from MOT.

The stars are aligned for them to get a piece. Cost savings from valuable logistic data. The southern section is almost guaranteed to be in the pocket.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2020/01/16/ytl-corp-spruces-up-its-infra-outlook

https://www.klsescreener.com/v2/news/view/722135

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/ytl-likely-be-winner-if-hsr-project-revived


Lanmum
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Posted by Lanmum > Dec 5, 2020 4:33 PM | Report Abuse

Thanks chhn461 at least i have confidence to buy


Jerichomy
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Posted by Jerichomy > Dec 5, 2020 4:47 PM | Report Abuse

Stockwinner is hopeless to get attention


stockwinner
652 posts

Posted by stockwinner > Dec 5, 2020 6:18 PM | Report Abuse

Monday Bursa will probably see red in the whole day due to Fitch's rating downgrade.



Risky sectors in poor economic situation, i.e. Construction or Aviation will probably suffer badly.


Better hedge your money elsewhere to cover your losses yesterday


People need money to put food on table, not Mega projects.


stockwinner
652 posts

Posted by stockwinner > Dec 5, 2020 6:23 PM | Report Abuse

Dont think the current government will spend on Mega project instead of


more Hospitals for Sabah Sarawak, E-learning facilities for schools or universities, Public Day care service, Public buses, or LRT for JB/Penang/KK/Melaka/Seremban/Kuantan.


stockwinner
652 posts

Posted by stockwinner > Dec 5, 2020 6:29 PM | Report Abuse

The current government has more targeted approach in spending.


They know the priority. Inclusivity.
Not like the previous leaders that like to over spend on Mega projects.




All thanks to our wise FM.


chhn461
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Posted by chhn461 > Dec 5, 2020 7:57 PM | Report Abuse

"If you all have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail"

Nuff said.

My offer still stands, give you 200 c34 warrants at 3c for free. Want or not?

If mother goes to 1 in 3 months, can buy you a good lunch.


chhn461
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Posted by chhn461 > Dec 5, 2020 7:57 PM | Report Abuse

Practically free, ahh whatever.


Jjkcl
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Posted by Jjkcl > Dec 5, 2020 8:04 PM | Report Abuse

Window dressing set to bolster Bursa Malaysia next week


stockwinner
652 posts

Posted by stockwinner > Dec 5, 2020 8:25 PM | Report Abuse

Stockwinner's prediction for next week:


Due to Fitch's rating downgrade,


YTL retreat to last week's lowest.


Warrants back to square.



While recession proof counters such as Supermax will open green for few days.


chhn461
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Posted by chhn461 > Dec 5, 2020 8:28 PM | Report Abuse

@stockhiner

Have fun holding the warrants. People I know who abuse typical retailer thinking (ie. HengYuan, Supermax) have already left Supermax. Have fun riding the bear.

As you say, squared losses. Better cash out or your Merz becomes a Myvi.

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