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alenac
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Posted by alenac > Dec 3, 2021 9:35 AM | Report Abuse

Stock punting for quick gain are always risky to lose all. Nobody can guarantee a profit in every trade. There is one thing certain " the impatient always pay to the patient".

KingKong_Doll Tan is right ma, if got sure win, then why still want so susah leh. Ownself buy kau kau a'dy loh.
Like those 4D fortune teller, if he know wat number out tomolo, you think he still need to set stall meh. Those who went to him subconsciously a'dy know 90% tipu ma. Can only blame on their greed .....cannot blame the fortune teller ma.
03/12/2021 9:10 AM


TanDavid88
310 posts

Posted by TanDavid88 > Dec 3, 2021 10:52 AM | Report Abuse

Who the asshole keep personal attack ?
Who continue to blame others.
This forum for share information, no personal attack lah.
Check your records, no sharing, only personal attack.
Very happy !!


OTB
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Posted by OTB > Dec 3, 2021 12:28 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by Just88 > Nov 29, 2021 8:19 PM | Report Abuse

I see that many ppl here do not have respect for human rights. This is a public forum. It is a place for everyone to talk freely. No one should dictate what others should or should not do. If OTB wants to promote and share his ideas here, that is his rights. Who gives you the rights to stop him from what he is doing ??? Who gives you the rights to judge him ??? Whether he is a conman or good man is none of your concern. If you want to do everyone a favor by warning against OTB, then you should try to prove his analysis wrong and your effort will be appreciated. The share price of Hiaptek is falling due to Omicron, so is 800+ other stock prices. Some ppl have nothing better to do and just want to pick fights. Haizzz.

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The above message is very clear.
I post the good fundamental of Hiaptek.
Please share your opinion if you can spot any mistake on my write up.

I do not resort to personal attack.
I hope all readers will do likewise.

There is no sure win in the stock market.
I did not force anyone here to buy Hiaptek.
I share my write up with good intention, hopefully readers here will able to make money.
I had said in my recommendation that I will buy and hold until September 2022.
I recommend to buy at 0.50 in my recommendation report.
Yes, I also lost money.
I do not owe any apology to anyone until September 2022.
I wish to apologise if after that time, the share price of Hiaptek is still below 0.50.

I will just ignore any personal attack on me.
I will not reply them.
Let the readers here judge all attackers.
Hopefully, someone will do some justice to all attackers here who started personal attack.
Thank you.


OTB
8762 posts

Posted by OTB > Dec 3, 2021 12:40 PM | Report Abuse

The share price of most of the stocks listed in KLSE are down after Malaysia FY2022 budget.
Ask yourself, do you make money in the last 4 to 5 weeks ?
I also lost money.
My huge paper profit before 29/10/2021 also evaporated in the thin air.
I just keep quiet and feel sad someone still makes personal attack on me.
KLSE will continue to go down, no one will know the bottom.
Nothing to post here when KLSE is so bearish.

I keep to my promise, I just hold on to my Hiaptek.
I am losing money on Hiaptek now despite a huge profit when the share price was at 0.695.
I walk the talk.


Hung_Hing
31 posts

Posted by Hung_Hing > Dec 3, 2021 1:24 PM | Report Abuse

I believe the Hiaptek RM3 bil expansion on hot rolled coil is to be initiated very soon even before Sept 2022.
Now market sentiment not good even Inari the strongest tech counter also drop, hence not a surprise hiaptek and other good klse counters price are falling.


Colgate
7385 posts

Posted by Colgate > Dec 3, 2021 2:35 PM | Report Abuse

Don’t worry. No one is Stock God. Market Up or Down very normal. I take money when up 1 sen here, very often here. Nobody knows Up or Down of this stock. I sell a bit to eat Chicken Ken Brand. I save big quantities sell at Rm1.15. Many times I enjoyed eat Chicken Kent Brand. No one follow me, I don’t care. I care only eat FOC Chicken every 1 sen Up, Sell a bit. Yahoo. Waiting next year sell all at Rm1.15. See you at Rm1.15. My tactics only I can understand. No need follow my tactics. My tactics I use, I Lone Ranger use my own tactics. Joy to me.


Colgate
7385 posts

Posted by Colgate > Dec 3, 2021 2:46 PM | Report Abuse

Please don’t personally attack people here. Forum to give support to other people and to share information here. Those attacks will get their karma.


Beltland
517 posts

Posted by Beltland > Dec 3, 2021 2:57 PM | Report Abuse

Long term investors do not be panic ,market share price and financial report are totally two different topic.

Financial report is to declare the real profits or loses of the business transacted during the past three month business activities.It's a mathematics figure in the account book to reflect the performance of the management team of the said company whether it is good or bad perform.
On the coming financial report I believe OTB and KYY predicted the financial result will be 90% correctly achieve at lease or even exceed the target .

By reading recent international articles related to steel industry, it's concluded that steel industry is definitely heading a bright future .

The recent news confirmed that Jianlong China already injected RM 325.6 million into ESSB is a solid proof that steel industry is profitable and sustainable .As Jianlong China investment team member is make up a group of well educated financial analyst graduated from Harvard university and Yale university and after it's due diligence foresee the bright future is an real opportunity existence.Therefore Jianlong injected the big sum of money to the joint venture business.

Another news released by Hiaptek to pump in 3 billion for business expansion clearly shown that steel industry is on the track to grow big and profitable .


But market share price is a different issue .Market price is artificially control by IB and Investment Fund controller,thus Mr.market be able to shoot up the market price to P.E ratio 205 by giving the term "Potential Growth" And will the super high P.E ratio business profit achievable ?No body responsible !
At the same time , applying potential growth formula Mr.market can purposely press down the share price of Kossan to P.E 1.62 which is the lowest P.E ratio for glove counter in the World !!
(For reference,Sri Trang Glove Thailand traded in Singapore market at P.E ratio 3.45)

Therefore it's clearly shown that Mr .market shoot up or press down the market price is merely base on money game policy ,sometimes not related to company fundamental at all !

At the moment Hiaptek share price been pressed down is a temporary trend .


Long term investor,hold your trust to Jianlong investment team and Hiaptek 3 billion expansion budget !

For short term investors who lost money ,please don't blame OTB since he already told you there is no sure win investment product in the market !!


Newbie_2288
35 posts

Posted by Newbie_2288 > Dec 3, 2021 4:23 PM | Report Abuse

Its ok, let the short term investor sells, i just wanted to collect more tickets at lower price and wait for the time to come.


Syabas1781
22 posts

Posted by Syabas1781 > Dec 3, 2021 5:18 PM | Report Abuse

Please avoid personal attack. OTB is just sharing his analysis. For the benefits of all of us, if you disagree with him, you are welcome to post your analysis to prove he is incorrect. I bought Hiaptek at 0.54 and I accept price down currently is due to bear market. I think the industry has a better future in longer term. If not, Tan Sri William Cheng will not revive Mega Steel. He has better insight in this industry than many of us. Don't you think so?


stockwin
161 posts

Posted by stockwin > Dec 3, 2021 7:38 PM | Report Abuse

When OTB recommended Hiap Teck at about 50 sen, he did say hold until september 2022 to win > RM1. To be fair to him, one ought to wait until sept 2022 to see the result. To criticise him without any comment on his report is not fair. Do you agree?


stockraider
27562 posts

Posted by stockraider > Dec 4, 2021 10:50 AM | Report Abuse

Too much debts & speculate in too much excess in steel inventory mah!

But steel prices already tumbling down....that means huge impairment in inventory mah!

Run b4 too late loh!


MoneyMakers
5710 posts

Posted by MoneyMakers > Dec 4, 2021 1:13 PM | Report Abuse

Alot of suckers stuck chase high here..just keep until Sept2022..nobody cares


OTB
8762 posts

Posted by OTB > Dec 4, 2021 1:57 PM | Report Abuse

Please read the below statistic of Hiaptek on Date - PAT - Share price.

Date - PAT - Share price
27/3/2020 - (7.657m) - 0.12 - lose money.
25/6/2020 - 4.918m - 0.16
28/9/2020 - 10.292m - 0.18
16/12/2020 - 6.966m - 0.49
25/3/2021 - 30.052m - 0.47
29/6/2021 - 65.925m - 0.565
29/9/2021 - 60.484m - 0.58

Market expectation that Hiaptek will make 80 million to 90 million in Dec 2021.
Let us wait and see the result later.
Will the share price drops to 0.30 in December 2021 ?
Mr Market will tell us at the end of December 2021.

Note :
The PAT (Profit After Tax) increased from a profit of 4.918 million on 25/6/2020 to a profit of 60.484 million on 29/9/2021. The profit increased is 1,130% over a period of 1.5 years or 6 quarters.

The PAT growth is 1,130% over a period of 1.5 years or 6 quarter.
Thank you.


OTB
8762 posts

Posted by OTB > Dec 4, 2021 2:20 PM | Report Abuse

I measured the fundamental of Hiaptek based on the following perimeters.
I compared the FY2021 results against FY2020.

EPS growth = 3,712% against a std of 10%.
Free Cash Flow = 24,148 million.
PER = 4.88 time against a std of 10 time.(lower is better)
ROE = 14.50% against a std of 10%
ROIC = 15.26% against a std of 12.0%.
EV/EBIT = 4.96 against a std of 8.0. (lower in better)
Earning yield = 20.16% against a std of 12.0%.
Interest coverage = 15.77 time against a std of 9 time.
Net profit margin = 15.11% against a std of 8.0%.

Hiaptek passed all most important perimeters set.

Thank you.


DickyMe
11058 posts

Posted by DickyMe > Dec 4, 2021 2:21 PM | Report Abuse

Parameter, not perimeter. -D


OTB
8762 posts

Posted by OTB > Dec 4, 2021 2:23 PM | Report Abuse

Thank you.


OTB
8762 posts

Posted by OTB > Dec 4, 2021 2:26 PM | Report Abuse

The interest coverage = 15.77 time against a std of 9.0 time.
Hence there is no extra debt in this company.
The debt is manageable.
Thank you.


lee901
146 posts

Posted by lee901 > Dec 4, 2021 2:32 PM | Report Abuse

Tg and harta fa weak?
Why down more than 70 percent from peak?


MoneyMakers
5710 posts

Posted by MoneyMakers > Dec 4, 2021 3:37 PM | Report Abuse

PAT/PE blablabla just usual tricks to trap suckers/newbies

Steel price crash means future PAT/PE etc also crash..past performance irrelevant @ whatever parameter alrdy invalid


MoneyMakers
5710 posts

Posted by MoneyMakers > Dec 4, 2021 3:38 PM | Report Abuse

Steel price alrdy crash..everyone looking 4 exit now

Just another 30% drop to 30sen (historical price based on current low steel price)


stockwin
161 posts

Posted by stockwin > Dec 4, 2021 6:38 PM | Report Abuse

30 sen ? I will load all my money in it. Please drop to 30 sen !! I am waiting.:-)


canbuyla
496 posts

Posted by canbuyla > Dec 4, 2021 8:17 PM | Report Abuse

likely won't see 60 Sen in the next 2-3 months..Graph said a double top and that's the minimum digestion period... take care all traders and investors.


SongYau9
76 posts

Posted by SongYau9 > Dec 5, 2021 11:27 AM | Report Abuse

OTB history in making like last time MASTEEL counter, all go to the drain. Let see history makingagain or not. Lousy prediction fact.


SongYau9
76 posts

Posted by SongYau9 > Dec 5, 2021 11:28 AM | Report Abuse

When someone give BUY CALL, cepat run away lo. U think he so kind ah. If not KYY wont margin call so many stock lol


SongYau9
76 posts

Posted by SongYau9 > Dec 5, 2021 11:29 AM | Report Abuse

Mark my word. At the end loss money. He always talk history but not talk about his fail. Only win 100% win talk. BEWARE


TanDavid88
310 posts

Posted by TanDavid88 > Dec 5, 2021 11:49 AM | Report Abuse

Talk on Hiaptek, no personal attack.
Never learn.


TanDavid88
310 posts

Posted by TanDavid88 > Dec 5, 2021 11:49 AM | Report Abuse

Waste time


Klang04Rajoo
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Posted by Klang04Rajoo > Dec 5, 2021 12:03 PM | Report Abuse

TanDavid88 I understand your kind advice. But you are throwing sand into my rice bowl as we are hired to track and locate ispS via their constant postings.
We tracked down those personal attackers.
Unlike MoneyMakers who only attack steel shares others who like to do personal attacks we must thank them.
Keep up the personal attacks as we need to TWIST legs to show we are doing our job.
We really miss HuatRex.


Colgate
7385 posts

Posted by Colgate > Dec 5, 2021 12:33 PM | Report Abuse

Market Up or Down very normal. I take money when up 1 sen here, very often here. Nobody knows Up or Down of this stock. I sell a bit to eat Chicken Ken Brand. I save big quantities sell at Rm1.15. Many times I enjoyed eat Chicken Kent Brand. No one follow me, I don’t care. I care only eat FOC Chicken every 1 sen Up, Sell a bit. Yahoo. Waiting next year sell all at Rm1.15. See you at Rm1.15. My tactics only I can understand. No need follow my tactics. My tactics I use, I Lone Ranger use my own tactics. Joy to me.


weisheng1998
579 posts

Posted by weisheng1998 > Dec 5, 2021 12:57 PM | Report Abuse

wee... 0.12 sen coming


investor77
562 posts

Posted by investor77 > Dec 5, 2021 1:17 PM | Report Abuse

Wei Sheng, You make those who has bought Hiap Tek really angry. Already many investors are bleeding and suffering. Please dont post nonsense!! From 46 to 12 cents is too much.

We can accept is you can give your justifications.

Meanwhile please refrain from making foolish prediction.


Klang04Rajoo
2 posts

Posted by Klang04Rajoo > Dec 5, 2021 2:20 PM | Report Abuse

investor77 you must understand this is a free world and people can say and do what they want within the confines of the law and accepted moral conduct.
weisheng1998 @ weisheng1998 might be a SADIST as his family might bankrupted from punting in shares and that,s why he hope that to happen to more people so they can join him in his suffering.
If weisheng1998 after seeing his father lost money punting on shares and started PUNCHING and abusing his mother , his sadist comments is okay.
If he start to punch anyone one or abuse anyone with personal attacks then there are ways to deal with this type of people.
Otherwise my brothers will go hungry if they don,t make some people urinate sometimes.


DickyMe
11058 posts

Posted by DickyMe > Dec 5, 2021 2:26 PM | Report Abuse

@ Klang04Rajoo

You proud of belonging to a gang so much that you need to prefix to your name?


MoneyMakers
5710 posts

Posted by MoneyMakers > Dec 5, 2021 2:47 PM | Report Abuse

Price alrdy steady drop b’coz steel price crash

Now somemore omicron getting worse will accelerate drop to 30sen (historical value based on current steel price)


DickyMe
11058 posts

Posted by DickyMe > Dec 5, 2021 2:56 PM | Report Abuse

It is excellent opportunity to top up.

Unfortunately, my extras are trapped elsewhere.


Johnzhang
1157 posts

Posted by Johnzhang > Dec 5, 2021 3:04 PM | Report Abuse

I decide to top up at 45-46 sen level and hold it for 6-12 months. I think the selldown of steel counter is overdone. Steel prices is down but NOT out.

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