steveooikp 4689 posts | Posted by steveooikp > Sep 27, 2014 9:31 AM | Report Abuse say this and say that no use loh.... ivory is still undervalued, this is what I can say. Their landbanks in penang worth a lot of money... also, those completed properties can generate good income loh... can buy... for sure.... 60 sen and below... can up to 67 or 68... if cross 70 .. better. |
steveooikp 4689 posts | Posted by steveooikp > Sep 27, 2014 9:35 AM | Report Abuse JB ... will be the next Singapore loh, near Singapore mah... now Malaysia govt changing law only foreigner only can buy properties more than RM 1 million mah... a lot of new properties built bigger units loh... I think is okay loh... RM 1 million / 2.65 = SGD 378 k... cheap cheap... in Singapore can only buy a 2 bedroom + 1 living room HDB loh... If you see those really high class one like those at nusajaya side e.g. puteri habour near tuas checkpoint... market is still there... plenty of foreign investors. |
steveooikp 4689 posts | Posted by steveooikp > Sep 27, 2014 9:37 AM | Report Abuse foreign investors when they convert to RM and buy properties here .. they feel very cheap compare to their home country. Further, they also have the intention to stay in Malaysia after their retirement. Lower living expenses, cheaper car, petrol, near to Singapore, can send their children to educate in Singapore (Malaysia education cannot used mah, change change everyday...), drive to work through Tuas checkpoint only 30 minutes..... |
impartiality 427 posts | Posted by impartiality > Sep 29, 2014 11:53 AM | Report Abuse It is youR English cannot be used at the first place . your argument is useless they are not even arguments at the first place. Like I said will you let an idiot run your company even you have the best factory with the best equipment . Don't talk so much about landbnk and returns prove that you can deliver profits first |
Hustle 3455 posts | Posted by Hustle > Sep 30, 2014 11:19 AM | Report Abuse steve please buy more rebound ahead (y) |
steveooikp 4689 posts | Posted by steveooikp > Oct 1, 2014 5:56 PM | Report Abuse the JV project in JB is a good start ... that area next to Tropicana Cove is a good location... you go and see... the service apartment developed by Senibong is selling at RM 600 to RM 700 psf... good rate leh |
steveooikp 4689 posts | Posted by steveooikp > Oct 1, 2014 5:56 PM | Report Abuse nevermind... if drop I buy ... |
impartiality 427 posts | Posted by impartiality > Oct 1, 2014 6:33 PM | Report Abuse If everybody can sell the same item at the same price , you won't see businesses fail . Many businesses in good locations do fail. If you open a store in klcc and you have a poor reputation , your business will still fail . if Ivory hires someone like you to talk to fund managers they will fail big time . |
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impartiality 427 posts | Posted by impartiality > Oct 2, 2014 2:48 AM | Report Abuse steveooikp, if you were to represent fund managers on behalf of Ivory, they will probably ask u why ivory has no consistent profit track record(cash profit). You can tell them aiya don't worry lah, we have so many mega projects(and mega white elephants). Why is your leverage so high and your cash level so low? all developers also like that mah. How are you going to undertake those projects with your low cash level, aiya can find money want lah, Malaysia still got so many banks . They should hire you as IR manager |
Hustle 3455 posts | Posted by Hustle > Oct 2, 2014 8:25 AM | Report Abuse Agree with impartiality, steve may be you can suggest their fund manager to borrow Ah Long to continue all the big big projects, else all the fund manager possible need to went home for mid night project liao :) |
Hustle 3455 posts | Posted by Hustle > Oct 2, 2014 8:36 AM | Report Abuse After a few years of the company performance, just proof one thing, non capability of the CEO, CFO & COO planning for their company future outlook. Please don't forget that this elephant is far more senior than Tambun but lack in behind so badly. |
impartiality 427 posts | Posted by impartiality > Oct 2, 2014 12:23 PM | Report Abuse Agreed . When fund managers ask Steve why Ivory is undervalued . He will prob say I say undervalued means undervalued lah . What discount rate did you use for your financial model, Steve will answer the boss very good one always give discount to buyers one that's why all the prop buyers love him. Fund manager will tell him in that case I have to ask a risk premium to my discount rate which gives me a target price of 30 sen thank you for your time Steve |
annsmith 239 posts | Posted by annsmith > Oct 2, 2014 3:19 PM | Report Abuse hopeless counter!! fARKOFF |
steveooikp 4689 posts | Posted by steveooikp > Oct 4, 2014 9:40 AM | Report Abuse impartiality --- I think you are very free.....I have seen the previous comments from you... you can be in this forum and bad mouth this counter for so long.... I salute to you.... however, I hold only 12,000 units in this counter, not too much worries.... I bot 59.5.... higher than current price.. but I will hold.... I will grow 1 day.... small quantities anyway... most of my funds are in O&G, IT and some in plantations (dirt cheap now esp CPO issue).... |
impartiality 427 posts | Posted by impartiality > Oct 14, 2014 5:28 PM | Report Abuse Only people who r free bothers to defend a trashy company |
steveooikp 4689 posts | Posted by steveooikp > Oct 14, 2014 5:30 PM | Report Abuse tell me, why you hate ivory so much.... you are in this forum for so many years to condemn ivory.... |
steveooikp 4689 posts | Posted by steveooikp > Oct 14, 2014 5:30 PM | Report Abuse I bot 59.5 .... I think once market rebound... can get back to that level.... not as hatred as impartiality loh |
impartiality 427 posts | Posted by impartiality > Oct 15, 2014 5:27 PM | Report Abuse Rebound ? Every stock rebounded today except this . Please put your word where your mouth is go and support the price |
cherry tomato 1882 posts | Posted by cherry tomato > Oct 15, 2014 5:37 PM | Report Abuse this stock it can DONT TOUCH IT at all. Or else ur money will become dead money. Other counter up u will see this counter either neutral, down or stagnant. It u want to buy this counter might as well put in bank to earn interest as it will not declared dividend for coming few year as bad cashflow. |
Hustle 3455 posts | Posted by Hustle > Oct 16, 2014 2:54 PM | Report Abuse steve please don't forget to wear spender, the tide is quick low now, watch out for the Phirana lol |
davidkkw79 4724 posts | Posted by davidkkw79 > Oct 16, 2014 5:00 PM | Report Abuse ivory still haven't crash ? how it could be possilble?? |
rlch 4085 posts | Posted by rlch > Oct 20, 2014 10:22 PM | Report Abuse Very cheap now. Buy now can buy cheaper than Dato Low Eng Hock lowest purchase price of 55sen this year. Many projects ongoing eg Penang WorldCity, Batu Kawan and lastly in Johor should sustain high sales in coming years. Deep discount to NTA of 88sen. |
Hustle 3455 posts | Posted by Hustle > Oct 21, 2014 10:50 AM | Report Abuse May be you forget already Dato have another brother name Low Tuck Wah that may be will buy cheaper than you lol |
robbin65 95 posts | Posted by robbin65 > Oct 21, 2014 12:20 PM | Report Abuse Yes, i had analyse this stock for a long time. Low Tuck Wah able to buy cheaper from stock market partly help by his brother, consistently producing lousy result every quarter, partly also help by his two dogs, bark fiercely at passer by to scare them so that they throw their share cheap cheap and run away. Good lah Low Tuck Hwa, lucky man. |
Hustle 3455 posts | Posted by Hustle > Oct 21, 2014 12:54 PM | Report Abuse As you can see everyday low price just like Tesco promotion, lots of dreamers here just hope for the Nov report will come out with high revenue. To be honest, better cut loss before too late, the coming result will not seems too good as Johor project basically already in deep shit. When wait until the report come out all your average bullet will become useless. If really want to buy, wait for the report come out first then only consider want to get in or not for your own safety purpose. |
robbin65 95 posts | Posted by robbin65 > Oct 21, 2014 5:29 PM | Report Abuse Thank you Hustle, your words are proven very effective, what a lucky Low Tuck Wah, can pick up some more cheap share untill Nov the quarter report released. |
rlch 4085 posts | Posted by rlch > Oct 26, 2014 6:37 PM | Report Abuse Ivory plans RM1.4bil projects, developing 80-acre land bank in Penang http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/valueinvestorresearchklse/54815.jsp So quiet this thread, now can buy cheap before moving. If move to 70sen, can make 33% gain. |
Bullrun18 373 posts | Posted by Bullrun18 > Oct 27, 2014 1:16 PM | Report Abuse Yup buy buy buy still very cheap . |
impartiality 427 posts | Posted by impartiality > Oct 28, 2014 3:47 AM | Report Abuse Doesn't matter how many projects they claimed they have in the pipeline . They don't even know The basics of managing a company properly . Give them a land beside the hsbc hq in Hong Kong and they will also screw up. they have only succeeded in building the largest white elephant in penang times square when they talked about gdv of 5 bil a few years ago. That is their track record in mega projects . If you think the company is cheap the management talk is even cheaper |
Hustle 3455 posts | Posted by Hustle > Oct 28, 2014 1:21 PM | Report Abuse But the Time Square building inspired lots of beggars to start their new life, especially it create a groups of beggar hero that help to maintain Penang security lol |
impartiality 427 posts | Posted by impartiality > Oct 28, 2014 2:52 PM | Report Abuse Yes hock dog has built the biggest air conditioned homeless shelter in penang times square the beggars can sleep there during the day and no one will even notice |
simon333 1014 posts | Posted by simon333 > Oct 29, 2014 3:26 PM | Report Abuse Big boy swallow ! |
simon333 1014 posts | Posted by simon333 > Oct 29, 2014 3:53 PM | Report Abuse Smart investor start accumulated this super worth value stock , future stock king ! Only the smart investor know the right taste ! Nice dishes . |
impartiality 427 posts | Posted by impartiality > Oct 29, 2014 3:56 PM | Report Abuse Smart investors won't even blink at this stock full stop |
simon333 1014 posts | Posted by simon333 > Oct 29, 2014 4:00 PM | Report Abuse Conceal all country soon , ivory will become next giant developer in our country , bet down the less ! Golden egg for investor , especially like u , new bie . |
simon333 1014 posts | Posted by simon333 > Oct 29, 2014 4:49 PM | Report Abuse Test pile ! Tomorrow bright to rebound or recovery future price 0.60 . |
Hustle 3455 posts | Posted by Hustle > Oct 30, 2014 8:28 AM | Report Abuse Bright minus 2.8 sen also can rebound??? |
impartiality 427 posts | Posted by impartiality > Oct 30, 2014 12:43 PM | Report Abuse Where is the rebound Simon you are an amateur newbie who has no idea how to talk to professionals don't even try |
simon333 1014 posts | Posted by simon333 > Oct 30, 2014 2:21 PM | Report Abuse The tune length is correct ! Any time right adjustment in price , jet to above 0.60 at least . |
simon333 1014 posts | Posted by simon333 > Oct 30, 2014 2:24 PM | Report Abuse Professional talk is this stock going to big wave ! Big boy is control the game ! Under progress ! |
impartiality 427 posts | Posted by impartiality > Oct 30, 2014 5:11 PM | Report Abuse Your speech is slurred and implausible at best you are talking cock with no evidence to back it up whatsoever I hope your big dick is elastic enough to withstand the plunge in the stock price |
Hustle 3455 posts | Posted by Hustle > Oct 31, 2014 12:29 PM | Report Abuse Can rub with leech oil heard that it improve elastic lol |
rlch 4085 posts | Posted by rlch > Nov 3, 2014 7:28 AM | Report Abuse Highlight in Focus magazine. YTD still down compare to other property counters. Time to buy? |
impartiality 427 posts | Posted by impartiality > Nov 4, 2014 2:50 AM | Report Abuse Do you understand English ? Focus points out their poor cash flow |
rlch 4085 posts | Posted by rlch > Nov 4, 2014 7:31 AM | Report Abuse Poor cashflow? Just sell land which is likely to appreciate. Anyway Ivory is still making money, so better keep the land. I am interested in Ivory at 50sen level not like people chasing Tambun at RM2 plus as both are Penang developers. |
impartiality 427 posts | Posted by impartiality > Nov 6, 2014 12:19 PM | Report Abuse Only idiots like you sell land that he thinks is likely to appreciate. Why sell an appreciating assest immediately unless you need cash desperately. You must understand that one ringgit of profit does not equal one ringgit of cash flow. If you look at ivory results, most of the profit does not translate to physical cash inflow. A company can be making 1 mil in profit but may still see its cash flow of operations in the red. a substansial portion of Ivory profit in the last two years came from revaluation |
rlch 4085 posts | Posted by rlch > Nov 13, 2014 7:02 AM | Report Abuse Ivory’s City Residence draws strong response http://www.nst.com.my/node/52335 |
cherry tomato 1882 posts | Posted by cherry tomato > Nov 13, 2014 7:11 AM | Report Abuse Focus magazine news are not reliable, mostly are incorrect. ie last time it mentioned MPAY getting ETRS project but at the end Iris get it. THerefore i do not trust Focus magazine at all. It look like somebody wanna get out from the counter ask Focus paint a good picture on it. |
impartiality 427 posts | Posted by impartiality > Nov 13, 2014 2:57 PM | Report Abuse focus article is neutral with some negative bias at best. It highlighted their poor cashflow , high percentage of non cash profit in their eps as well as their need to raise funds. The typical retail investors who do not understand these accounting terms may view it positively but analysts will take that as an insidious criticism |
impartiality 427 posts | Posted by impartiality > Nov 13, 2014 3:15 PM | Report Abuse I have never seen a developer who has to pay a newspaper to write about the sales of one particular project. It is so unprecedented. Trying to prove something too hard makes people believe otherwise |