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Sslee
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Posted by Sslee > Dec 8, 2020 7:41 PM | Report Abuse

Congratulation Stockraider:
Insas today closed: 0.895
QL today closed: 6.04
QL adjusted for bonus issue and dividend: 6.04X3/2 + 0.045 + 0.045= 9.15
Insas adjusted for dividend: 0.895+ 0.02+ 0.02= 0.935

You are now ahead of Philip' QL so remember to call all your extended family to Philip’ “Klang Bak Kut Teh”


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Dec 8, 2020 7:49 PM | Report Abuse

THE OTHER ISSUE OF INSAS IS THAT ITS LOW DIVIDEND PAYOUT DESPITE HUGE RETAINED EARNINGS, IN WHICH GENERAL RAIDER ALSO AGREE LOH..!!

HOWEVER THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN IN A WAY ADDRESS WHEN INSAS PAYS RM 0.02 DIV EQUIVALENT TO SLIGHTLY BELOW 3% PA YIELD BASED ON SHARE PRICE OF RM 0.89 LOH...!! THIS YIELD IS COMPARABLE & SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN NESTLE DIVIDEND YIELD LOH...!!

PUT IT THIS WAY INSAS HATHWAY HAS A 3% DIVIDEND YIELD PA WHEREAS BERKSHIRE HATHWAY DON PAY ANYTHING, IN A WAY INSAS SCORE BETTER THAN BERKSHIRE IN THIS AREA MAH....!!

LETS BE HONEST , PUT UR HEAD & THINK LOH...!!
IF BELOW FACTS & FIGURE IS NOT SHAREHOLDERS FUND GROWING U THINK THE MANAGEMENT OF INSAS TALKCOCK MEH ??

Just look at the amazing growth track record of value creation of insas for the past 10 yrs

Sept 2020- Nta Rm 2.75

June 2019- Nta Rm 2.62

Dec 2018- Nta Rm 2.54

Dec 2017..Nta rm 2.49

Dec 2016 ...Nta Rm 2.18

Dec 2015..Nta Rm 1.96

Dec 2014..Nta rm 1.82

Dec 2013 nta..rm 1.71

Dec 2012 nta ..rm 1.51

Dec 2011 nta..rm 1.38

Dec 2010 nta...rm 1.22

Dec 2009 nta ..rm 1.14

INSAS IS GROWING STRONGLY MAH....ONLY THOSE PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND BERKSHIRE HATHWAY BUSINESS MODEL ARE SAYING INSAS HATHWAY BUSINESS MODEL ARE LOUSY LOH...!!

BUT INSAS BUSINESS MODEL ARE SAME SAME MAH, IN FACT INSAS GENERATE COMPOUND EARNINGS OF 12% PA SAME SAME AS BERKSHIRE WOH..!!...HOW COULD BE BERKSHIRE VERY GOOD & INSAS VERY BAD LEH ??

No brainer to buy hold insas surewin.....huge net cash....nta rm 2.63, Pe 8x and exposure to inari on the basis of 1 insas share equal to 0.847 inari share loh....!!

What more u want leh ??

Finally buying into insas is even better than buying into inari loh...!!

Remember insas this vital statistic loh....!!

Nta Rm 2.75.
EPS Rm 0.095
Current PE 9x
Yearly High Rm 0.92 . Current Mkt cap # 0.89 its mktcap rm 600m mah!

Inari mkt cap Rm 8780m .....Insas hold 584m of inari share equivalent to mkt cap of rm 1.54 billion or rm 2.21 per insas share loh...!!

Friend just insas investment into inari worth Rm 1.54 billion already exceeded the whole insas mkt cap of rm 600m mah....!!

That is a reason why insas is a screaming buy loh...!!

JUST BUY B4 TOO LATE MAH...!!


Sslee
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Posted by Sslee > Dec 8, 2020 8:00 PM | Report Abuse

In accordance with Rule 3.06 of the Rules on Take-overs, Mergers and Compulsory Acquisitions issued by the Securities Commission Malaysia (“SC”), the Board of Directors of Boilermech (save for the interested Directors, namely Dr. Chia Song Kun, Chia Lik Khai, Chia Seong Fatt (alternate Director to Chia Lik Khai) and Leong Yew Cheong wishes to announce that Mercury Securities Sdn Bhd has been appointed to act as the Independent Adviser of Boilermech to provide their comments, opinions, information and recommendation to the holders of the offer shares in respect of the Offer, and the said appointment is subject to the clearance of eligibility of the Independent Adviser by the SC.

This announcement is dated 7 December 2020.

Wonder what the Independent Adviser Mercury Securities Sdn Bh advice whether the offer is fair/unfair and resaonable/unreasonable thus recommend shareholders to accept/reject the offer?


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Dec 9, 2020 11:14 AM | Report Abuse

Just Buy B4 EGM approval mah...!!

More upside coming loh!!

Posted by stockraider > Dec 9, 2020 11:10 AM | Report Abuse X

My tukang tilik sifu says Insas upside powerful above Rm 1.00 by year end.

My Senior analyst estimates Insas fundamental worth above Rm 2.60 mah!

My 009 investigators found out hidden reserves of Insas excluding Inari comprises mainly properties & investment value is more than Rm 700m, giving insas another Rm 1.00 gain besides NTA Rm 2.75 & inari mark to market gain of another Rm 1.50.

Thus Insas intrinsic value can reached something like Rm 2.75 + Rm 1.75 + Rm 1.00 totalling = Rm 5.50 loh...!!

U buy insas for Rm 0.90 v Rm 5.50.....it is a steal mah...!!


Sslee
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Posted by Sslee > Dec 9, 2020 7:16 PM | Report Abuse

Dear all,
For your information on FamilyMart and new competitor CU
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/PilosopoCapital/2020-12-09-story-h1537501779-_CHOIVO_CAPITAL_WCE_5275_Dr_CU_in_da_house_66_Upside.jsp


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Dec 9, 2020 7:44 PM | Report Abuse

The Q1 Sept 2020 already big turnaround in investment segment with overall profit registering rm 65m profit.

I think q2 Dec 2020 profit will even see higher gain with disposal of sengenics, Raider see come profit of Rm 100m loh...!!

That will raised Insas share price above Rm 1.00, just in time for the bullish RPS rights issue with 5 free warrants for every 2 RPS rights expected to come in February 2021 mah!!

Make your move early loh!! Very bullish scenario mah...!!

Raider see big upside potential loh!

Posted by Sslee > Dec 9, 2020 12:38 PM | Report Abuse

INSAS Annual Report 2020
Page 8: The main contributor of pre-tax profit in FY 2020 is the Technology segment accounting for RM32.0 million (FY 2019: RM62.9 million), followed by the Financial Services segment contributing RM31.3 million (FY 2019: RM25.2 million). As a result of the unfavourable factors highlighted above, the investment holding & trading segment suffered a pre-tax loss of RM49.2 million due to unrealised mark to market losses of financial assets at fair value through profit or loss and derivative financial instruments (FY 2019: pre-tax profit of RM1.5 million).

Q2 Result end 31th Dec 2020.
1. How much of investment holding & trading segment pre-tax loss of RM49.2 million due to unrealised mark to market losses of financial assets at fair value through profit or loss and derivative financial instruments will be written back? OCBC now Sing 10+
2. Share of profit from associate companies Inari, Hohup and DGSB?
3. One off gain from disposal of Sengenics
4. Profit from M&A security and ICL?


i3lurker
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Posted by i3lurker > Dec 10, 2020 3:15 PM | Report Abuse

EPF will keep on selling and selling and selling

standby with few billion RM to absorb and absorb and absorb EPF selling

CHEERS !!!


Sslee
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Posted by Sslee > Dec 10, 2020 5:18 PM | Report Abuse

Haha i3lurker,
Your spy must be sleeping on the job or choivo revenue per outlet 2020 YTD is wrong:
7-eleven: RM 1,023,000
Mynews: RM 705,000
Family Mart: RM 2,535,000

I will not collect from EPF but will only collect when Philip start to sell his QL because it already proven when he sell Topglove, Pchem and MrDIY all those shares go up and up !!!


gunter
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Posted by gunter > Dec 11, 2020 12:20 PM | Report Abuse

Great company but valuation too rich .. PE should be 20-30


Maxpowar
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Posted by Maxpowar > Dec 11, 2020 1:27 PM | Report Abuse

@Philip
Fellow QL shareholders need some confidence boost from you as you know the company well enough to justify its high PE ratio. (Yes,it’s been mentioned MANY times) but like your physical meal, it doesn’t harm to hear from positive justification thrice a day,especially from experienced investor like you.


Maxpowar
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Posted by Maxpowar > Dec 11, 2020 1:41 PM | Report Abuse

@gunter Anyone can pluck numbers and calculate PE,EPS etc..if there’s one thing I learn from stock investing,it would be that if you judge whether a company is worth investing or not you based on a set of rigid valuation metrics, you’ll likely perform not more than average from regular folks out there..


Maxpowar
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Posted by Maxpowar > Dec 11, 2020 2:07 PM | Report Abuse

If you really want to compare PE in the egg industry,here’s your reference.

Layhong: PE 56
CAB: PE 112

TeoSeng PE 12, but their net profit has been on a decline for 4 consecutive quarters, past earnings are not consistent as well..

I have only one question to you: do you really want to buy a mediocre company solely because of its low PE? Its PE is low for a reason,because the company is not pulling in consistent profit, no definite plans for business expansion,mediocre management team..the market has taken into account on these, and hence priced them with a low PE..

Otherwise,QL should still be your top pick. A steady growth company,extremely credible leaders,business expanding crazilyyy over the years,monopolizes the marine food product industry,and the favourite convenience mart of many people’s heart - Family Mart


sense maker
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Posted by sense maker > Dec 11, 2020 8:37 PM | Report Abuse

Epf finally woke up and started selling.


Maxpowar
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Posted by Maxpowar > Dec 11, 2020 9:02 PM | Report Abuse

If any of you has constructive opinion on why QL is overvalued,by all means voice out,I’m open for discussion. I might have overlooked something due to confirmation bias. But if your comment has nothing sensible to offer, you’re no different than a barking dog lol.

Case in point: @sensemaker. Epf finally woke up and started selling? You high on weed eh, as if epf is not constantly buying and selling on other counters..what msg are you conveying?


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Dec 14, 2020 2:12 PM | Report Abuse

Investment in insas call for a very successful investment tech, that very alien to Philip & 3iii loh....!!

AS RAIDER SAYS THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO SKIN A CAT LOH...!!

INSAS IS NOT SPECULATING THE FUTURE, IT IS LOOKING AT PRESENT VALUE OF INSAS EXCEEDING RM 4.50 V SHARE PRICE RM 0.89, THERE IS HUGE MARGIN OF SAFETY AND IT IS RUN BY A COMPETENT OWNER LOH...!!

ON THE OTHERHAND IF U INVEST IN NESTLE & Ql U NEED SPECULATE THAT FUTURE GROWTH OF YOUR STOCK WILL EVENTUALLY CATCH UP WITH THE YOUR PRESENT OVERVALUE STOCK PRICE OF MORE THAN PE 50X LOH...!!

THE FALLACIES OF THIS APPROACH IS THE COMPANY CAN GROW & GROW, OVER MANY YEARS LEH, WHAT HAPPEN SALES & PROFIT FALTER ??

WHERE IS YOUR MARGIN OF SAFETY LEH ?? FOR INSAS, ON OTHER HAND, U CAN SEE IT ALREADY HUGE MARGIN OF SAFETY, WHEN U BUY THE SHARE MAH...!!

(S=QR) Philip Raider, you realize the more you as info about INSAS, the worse the company sounds right? You are trying too hard to convince and win every argument.

1. You concept here is basically saying that INSAS management care more about themselves than the shareholders of the company. This might be a valid reason why no one wants to buy INSAS shares. When shareholders can see that the company has money ( no idea why in Australia) but chooses to give poor earnings for every dollar of RETAINED earnings, they should give it back to the shareholders. Hoarding cash, investing in cash burning startups, not giving returns to shareholders via dividends and share buybacks is a quick method to destroy confidence in the company.

I totally agree.

2. If 5 years from now, INSAS is only making 60-80 million, from a net asset economic business value of 1.7 billion, on such a risky business model as lending, stockbroker, private equity, startups then I think I have better things in life to do.



Raider comment:

Raider has ability to understand risk versus returns.

That is why Raider thinks INSAS is better than Berkshire.


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Dec 14, 2020 2:13 PM | Report Abuse

Insas CORE BUSINESS
STOCK BROKING & ADVISORY BUSINESS
MONEY LENDING BUSINESS
INVESTMENT BUSINESS
PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT & PROPERTY INVESTMENT BUSINESS
HIGH FASHION & CAR RENTAL BUSINESS

ADDITIONAL QUALITY INVESTMENT
i pay 90 sen, and i receive a box containing
a net RM 1.19 cash
+ cash profit from selling off sengenics
+ 1 inari share (RM 2.50)
+ hohup + dgbs + omesti
+ 5 free warrants
+ 2 FD 3.8% certificate
PLUS OTHER INVESTMENT SHARE which include OCBC & IGB reits

Come on .... u still need to think ?

"Simple" calculation insas has asset of at least RM 4.50
which can "Easily" generate 30-50 sen eps.
which can "Easily" yield a 10-20 sen dividen per year.

Paying 90 sen for RM 4.50 asset ? u don't want ? Why ?
Paying 90 sen for 30-50 sen eps ? PE 2 or PE 3 ? Double every 2-3 years ? Don't want ? Why ?
DIY 10-20% ? Still don't want ? Why ?

U rather pay 90 sen for 10 sen asset ?
Or pay RM 6 for RM 2 asset ?
Or pay 70 sen for 2 sen eps ? compare to 90 sen for 20-30 sen eps ?
why ?

At the end, it is okay to do what you want.
Leno has seen company with "90 sen asset" selling at 45 sen, and when the company announce they are going bancrupt, meaning asset 0 sen, the share price "DROP-UP" to 90 sen ! HAHAHAHAHAH ... how can a counter price go up 100% when company declared bancrupt ? It is a crazy market. Of course the company went bancrupt, and got delisted at the end. The company name is LCL ... anyone still recalled LCL ?

Anyway, leno still wish everyone all the best.
Do what u believe is right.
Change if u think you are on the wrong.
NEver too late for anything.
If u are successful using your method, please u MUST continue your method regardless of what leno or whoever try to tell u what to do. At the end, u know yourself better than any strangers.

Sekian.
Cheers as always.


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Dec 14, 2020 2:15 PM | Report Abuse

Big upside Potential for Insas Mah !!
Do not missed loh...!!

The Q1 Sept 2020 already big turnaround in investment segment with overall profit registering rm 65m profit.

I think q2 Dec 2020 profit will even see higher gain with disposal of sengenics, Raider see come profit of Rm 100m loh...!!

That will raised Insas share price above Rm 1.00, just in time for the bullish RPS rights issue with 5 free warrants for every 2 RPS rights expected to come in February 2021 mah!!

Make your move early loh!! Very bullish scenario mah...!!

Raider see big upside potential loh!

Posted by Sslee > Dec 9, 2020 12:38 PM | Report Abuse

INSAS Annual Report 2020
Page 8: The main contributor of pre-tax profit in FY 2020 is the Technology segment accounting for RM32.0 million (FY 2019: RM62.9 million), followed by the Financial Services segment contributing RM31.3 million (FY 2019: RM25.2 million). As a result of the unfavourable factors highlighted above, the investment holding & trading segment suffered a pre-tax loss of RM49.2 million due to unrealised mark to market losses of financial assets at fair value through profit or loss and derivative financial instruments (FY 2019: pre-tax profit of RM1.5 million).

Q2 Result end 31th Dec 2020.
1. How much of investment holding & trading segment pre-tax loss of RM49.2 million due to unrealised mark to market losses of financial assets at fair value through profit or loss and derivative financial instruments will be written back? OCBC now Sing 10+
2. Share of profit from associate companies Inari, Hohup and DGSB?
3. One off gain from disposal of Sengenics
4. Profit from M&A security and ICL?


i3lurker
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Posted by i3lurker > Dec 14, 2020 3:49 PM | Report Abuse

QL is RM1.50 share value selling for RM5.85

fantastic pumping !!!


Sslee
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Posted by Sslee > Dec 14, 2020 7:31 PM | Report Abuse

Haha i3lurker Philip just have a bad haircut.


GuguGaga
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Posted by GuguGaga > Dec 17, 2020 5:06 PM | Report Abuse

Come on chicken. Up up and away


GuguGaga
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Posted by GuguGaga > Dec 17, 2020 5:09 PM | Report Abuse

Krismas mau mari ma. Turkey selling fast.


ThousandWishes
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Posted by ThousandWishes > Dec 26, 2020 8:48 PM | Report Abuse

It is a buy now. Need to study entry price if there is correction on Monday as I missed the entry at 5.92 last week.


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Dec 27, 2020 1:27 PM | Report Abuse

THIS IS THE SECRET OF INVESTMENT LOH...!!

EVERY YEAR THERE IS ONE OR TWO THEMATIC BULL THEME AND MANY AS HIGH AS 50% SPECIFIC UNIQUE SPECIFIC STOCK RALLY OF ABOVE 50% MINIMUM GAIN loh..!!

IF WE CAN CATCH IT EARLY & RIDE THE BULL TO ITS PEAK WE WILL DO EXCEEDINGLY WELL WE WILL BE ABLE TO OUTPERFORM IN A FEW SHORT BULL RUNS AND PERHAPS RETIRE EARLY LIKE PETER LYNCH LOH!


OF COURSE LIKE WARREN BUFFET MAKING MONEY FROM STOCK MARKET AS A MOTIVE IS LONG OVER IT IS THE JOY, THE ADVENTURE & THE CONSTANT INTELLECTUAL CHALLENGE IN THE ART OF INVESTMENTS THAT CAUSED HIM TO SAY
"TAP DANCING TO WORK"


NOW MY HUMBLE OPINION FOR INDIVIDUAL STOCK PICK THIS
YEAR 2021 WILL BE INSAS "THE COMING SUPER INDIVIDUAL STOCK BULL RUN"
WHY INSAS WILL GO INTO A BULL RUN FOR YEAR 2021?

ANSWER:
BECAUSE INSAS SHARE PRICES NOW REACHING SUPER EXPLOSIVE INFLEXION POINT WITH THE POTENTIAL EXPLOSIVE OUTBURST TO ITS ALL TIME HIGH DUE TO POTENTIAL AMPLIFY PROFITS TREND INSAS GOING TO ACHIEVED DUE TO ROBUST STOCK MARKET , INVESTMENT GAIN & THE STRONG SHOWING OF technology INARI LOH!
AND IF PROFITS KEEP INCREASING IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME OF INCREASE WILL INCREASE DIVIDENDS OR REWARD WITH BONUS ISSUES.
SO INSAS SHARES MUST GO UP HIGH AS THIS IS THE LAW!

TECHNOLOGY STOCKS, GLOVES STOCKS, FINANCE STOCKS ARE GETTING MORE VALUABLE IN WHICH INSAS HAVE EXPOSURE TO ALL OF THEM LIKE TECHNOLOGY THRU INARI & OMESTI, GLOVES THRU DGSB AND FINANCE THRU INSAS CREDIT & LEASING, M&A STOCKBROKING & ADVISORY AND SHARE INVESTMENT THRU INSAS HOLDING & SUBSIDIARIES ALL THESE EXPOSURES WILL REAPED IN SUPER PROFIT FOR 2021 MAH!
FOR YOUR INFORMATION INSAS ALREADY RECORD SUPER PROFIT FOR THE 1ST QTR 30 SEPT 2020 RECORD PROFITS OF RM 65M, EVEN THE WHOLE MSIA ECONOMY REGISTERED NEGATIVE GDP GROWTH LOH INSAS amazingly gain loh!!
LOOKING AT THE TREND OF INCREASING PROFIT FOR INSAS, ITS SHARE PRICE WILL EVENTUALLY SHOOT UP IN TANDEM LOH!

AGAIN WHEN ALL THE WORLD MARKETS ARE STARTING TO RECOVER FROM YR 2020 COVID19 SETBACK, U WILL SEE MAJOR RALLYS DUE TO RERATING OF STOCKS AND SUPER LOW INTEREST RATES enviroment THAT wii SPURS EQUITY PURCHASE MAH!

INSAS BEING SUPER UNDERVALUE WITH NAV OF RM 4.80 AND PE 8X WILL BE THE MAJOR PRIME BENEFICIARY here mah!

U r actually seeing emerging sign of INSAS share at 88 sen starting to run up like the early SUPERMAX & TOPGLOVES Gloves run in March to April Rally, the sign of coming bull which are very subtle with explosive upside b4 it explosively burst out with gains of few hundred % at the later stage mah...!!

U need to join the Insas stock early, as this is a safest fruit pickings when there are still abundance in supply now loh...!!

ALWAYS REMEMBER TO BUY INSAS 88 sen EARLY BEFORE TOO LATE MAH...!!


powerwk
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Posted by powerwk > Dec 31, 2020 3:32 PM | Report Abuse

@ThousandWishes - you can collect now at 5.92 :-)


csong25
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Posted by csong25 > Jan 1, 2021 3:52 AM | Report Abuse

Time to collect


MF0001
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Posted by MF0001 > Jan 8, 2021 8:31 PM | Report Abuse

TYCOON EPF GOING IN LIKE A TIGER~

LU LANG SIT ON SIDELINE MERH~


damiel
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Posted by damiel > Jan 13, 2021 11:44 AM | Report Abuse

QL Resources Bhd’s take-over offer for shares it does not own in Boilermech Holdings Bhd has been extended to Jan 29.The extension was announced in separate filings to Bursa Malaysia by the two companies today.The initial deadline for the conditional mandatory general takeover offer at 95 sen per share was Jan 14.


UndukNgadau
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Posted by UndukNgadau > Jan 14, 2021 8:55 AM | Report Abuse

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2021/01/14/reeling-from-coronavirus-asia039s-poultry-farmers-battle-bird-flu-outbreak


UndukNgadau
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Posted by UndukNgadau > Jan 14, 2021 12:45 PM | Report Abuse

https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2021/01/14/philippines-widens-poultry-imports-ban-to-halt-bird-flu-spread


UndukNgadau
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Posted by UndukNgadau > Jan 14, 2021 12:46 PM | Report Abuse

Getting serious

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