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thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 5, 2019 12:22 PM | Report Abuse

Kekeke


thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 5, 2019 12:24 PM | Report Abuse

Hello 7 Lai liao lo


thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 5, 2019 12:28 PM | Report Abuse

Hold for 9


klee
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Posted by klee > Jul 5, 2019 12:52 PM | Report Abuse

me holding for 10.0


klee
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Posted by klee > Jul 5, 2019 12:53 PM | Report Abuse

calvintanend when defeated will hide in shithole hahaha


siaoliao
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Posted by siaoliao > Jul 5, 2019 1:59 PM | Report Abuse

https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/pfs/120720.jsp

i also follow Philip buy some yinson and gkent


Invest_168
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Posted by Invest_168 > Jul 5, 2019 3:10 PM | Report Abuse

Why this Yinson up like crazy? Bursa only has this oil & gas company to buy huh?


Philip Greta
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Posted by Philip Greta > Jul 5, 2019 7:07 PM | Report Abuse

This is probably the only Malaysian o&g Bursa company that doesn't have any business in Malaysia. 99 % of their jobs is international.

Even their first local job in Malaysian waters is because THHE couldn't do the job despite years of work, and jx Nippon decided to award to YINSON which is now doing it ahead of schedule and on budget.

The financial strength is strong. Their market reputation is exemplary, and their international team of Norwegian management coupled with Chinese savvy is impressive.

They will be taking the Brazilian marlim 1 contract as the only tenderer, whale park fpso as the only tenderer and most likely The Ghana project as there only tenderer with local experience.


Ling Kee man
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Posted by Ling Kee man > Jul 5, 2019 8:39 PM | Report Abuse

Took profit at yinson cw.thank you for the bull run whoo


thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 5, 2019 8:41 PM | Report Abuse

Sooner or later Petronas should be giving some big contract to this so well managed company rather than keep giving contracts to those run so badly ones .
Sigh the way most o&G counters n co performing now like saprng is so so embarrassing . Yinson at least make Malaysia proud abit ...got standard


Upupshare
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Posted by Upupshare > Jul 6, 2019 9:18 PM | Report Abuse

turbochart = ignorance = stupid ...yes!!


Michael Kwok
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Posted by Michael Kwok > Jul 6, 2019 9:20 PM |

Post removed. Why?


Sheila James
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Posted by Sheila James > Jul 6, 2019 9:41 PM | Report Abuse

Anybody here from Jupiter securities changed to CGS itrade? How much is the brokerage fee? How do I withdraw cash or shares from CGS itrade account? Can I do online?


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Jul 7, 2019 10:52 AM | Report Abuse

Why u need to becareful of Yinson ??
This is bcos the gearing high & not much diffent from armada loh..!!

Yinson borrowing April 2019 as follows:
{In million Rm}
1. Perpetual Bond............1847.
2. Loan & borrowings.........3308.
3.Lease........................13.
4.Loan & Borrowing.............346.
5.Put option liability.........460.
6.Derivative...................61.
Total loan exposure............6039.

Total shareholder fund.........1791.

Total Assets...................8948.

Revenue(qtr)...................209.

Armada borrowings March 2019 as follows:

{In million Rm}
1.Perpetual Bond...............0.
2.Loan & borrowings..........6786.
3.Lease........................29.
4.Loan & Borrowing......... .3194.
5.Put option liability.........414.
6.Derivative...................0.
Total loan exposure...........10423.

Total shareholder fund.........3363.

Total Assets...................15540

Revemue(Qtr)...................491.

From the above u notice Armada is 2x bigger than yinson, thus Yinson Gearing is not much different from armada.

DON LISTEN TO SOHAI PHILIP & 3iii MAH...Armada mkt cap Rm 1.27b & yinson mktcap Rm 7.3b but Armada is actually 2x bigger than yinson mah..!!

Also Armada borrowing is 10.4b but is shareholder funds is Rm 3.4b thus gearing is 3.0x loh...!!

Yinson borrowing is Rm 6.0b with shareholder funds rm 1.8b thus gearing is 3.3x loh...!!

In fact Yinson Gearing is higher than armada loh..!! In fact Yinson is structure like Hyflux very dangerous loh..!!

Armada is conservative accounting policy writting down its assets whereas Yinson is aggressive jacking up its accounts recognition so that it can borrow more loh...!!

Do not fall for yinson trap loh...!!


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Jul 7, 2019 10:52 AM | Report Abuse

Ask yourself yinson is how much overvalue compare to armada, but its balance sheet are still craps leh ??

When there of reckoning come for Yinson, u cry also no tears loh..!!

YINSON IS ACTUALLY HYFLUX IN THE MAKING LOH...!!

From the above u notice Armada is 2x bigger than yinson, thus Yinson Gearing is not much different from armada.

DON LISTEN TO SOHAI PHILIP & 3iii MAH...Armada mkt cap Rm 1.27b & yinson mktcap Rm 7.3b but Armada is actually 2x bigger than yinson mah..!!

Also Armada borrowing is 10.4b but is shareholder funds is Rm 3.4b thus gearing is 3.0x loh...!!

Yinson borrowing is Rm 6.0b with shareholder funds rm 1.8b thus gearing is 3.3x loh...!!

In fact Yinson Gearing is higher than armada loh..!! In fact Yinson is structure like Hyflux very dangerous loh..!!

Armada is conservative accounting policy writting down its assets whereas Yinson is aggressive jacking up its accounts recognition so that it can borrow more loh...!!

Do not fall for yinson trap loh...!!

Posted by (US/CHN trade war doesn't matter) Philip > Jul 7, 2019 8:09 AM | Report Abuse

Does stockraider even understand balance sheets?

Armada 10 billion in loans, with average rates around 4.85%
Yinson 3.6 billion in loans, with average rates around also around 4.8%

And the difference of the loans are the main think that allow ynson to make money and high profit while Armada has to keep taking lousy projects just to do the interest payments for OSV that is sitting at home rusting with no orders (40% utilization rates) and no one willing to buy it.

Talking cocktail is raider, why not go back to your sapura rm3 in 3 years instead? I heard it's dropped back again and not up half a cent every day like you talk cock said.


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Jul 7, 2019 11:01 AM | Report Abuse

Good news for Armada shareholders loh....!!

If raider's finding on Yinson is wrong, then Armada should worth Mkt cap Rm 10.0b about Rm 1.70 per share...a big upside potential from current mkt cap Rm 1.26b loh..!!

If raider findings on Yinson are right..but then armada still hugely undervalue it should still worth Rm 3.0b or Rm 0.50 per share loh...!!
Still very good reasonable upside for armada.

Ask yourself yinson is how much overvalue compare to armada, but its balance sheet are still craps leh ??

When there of reckoning come for Yinson, u cry also no tears loh..!!

YINSON IS ACTUALLY HYFLUX IN THE MAKING LOH...!!

From the above u notice Armada is 2x bigger than yinson, thus Yinson Gearing is not much different from armada.

DON LISTEN TO SOHAI PHILIP & 3iii MAH...Armada mkt cap Rm 1.27b & yinson mktcap Rm 7.3b but Armada is actually 2x bigger than yinson mah..!!

Also Armada borrowing is 10.4b but is shareholder funds is Rm 3.4b thus gearing is 3.0x loh...!!

Yinson borrowing is Rm 6.0b with shareholder funds rm 1.8b thus gearing is 3.3x loh...!!

In fact Yinson Gearing is higher than armada loh..!! In fact Yinson is structure like Hyflux very dangerous loh..!!

Armada is conservative accounting policy writting down its assets whereas Yinson is aggressive jacking up its accounts recognition so that it can borrow more loh...!!

Do not fall for yinson trap loh...!!

Posted by stockraider > Jul 7, 2019 10:46 AM | Report Abuse X

Why u need to becareful of Yinson ??
This is bcos the gearing high & not much diffent from armada loh..!!

Yinson borrowing April 2019 as follows:
{In million Rm}
1. Perpetual Bond............1847.
2. Loan & borrowings.........3308.
3.Lease........................13.
4.Loan & Borrowing.............346.
5.Put option liability.........460.
6.Derivative...................61.
Total loan exposure............6039.

Total shareholder fund.........1791.

Total Assets...................8948.

Revenue(qtr)...................209.

Armada borrowings March 2019 as follows:

{In million Rm}
1.Perpetual Bond...............0.
2.Loan & borrowings..........6786.
3.Lease........................29.
4.Loan & Borrowing......... .3194.
5.Put option liability.........414.
6.Derivative...................0.
Total loan exposure...........10423.

Total shareholder fund.........3363.

Total Assets...................15540

Revemue(Qtr)...................491.

From the above u notice Armada is 2x bigger than yinson, thus Yinson Gearing is not much different from armada.


VSOLAR Sailang Margin All In
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Posted by VSOLAR Sailang Margin All In > Jul 7, 2019 11:11 AM | Report Abuse

but your armada loss making, yinson is profitable leh


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Jul 7, 2019 11:19 AM | Report Abuse

I forget to tell u that armada already making profit based on latest qtr armada make Rm 62m v yinson make Rm 62m loh. Same same profit mah..!

Posted by stockraider > Jul 7, 2019 10:46 AM | Report Abuse X

Why u need to becareful of Yinson ??
This is bcos the gearing high & not much diffent from armada loh..!!

Yinson borrowing April 2019 as follows:
{In million Rm}
1. Perpetual Bond............1847.
2. Loan & borrowings.........3308.
3.Lease........................13.
4.Loan & Borrowing.............346.
5.Put option liability.........460.
6.Derivative...................61.
Total loan exposure............6039.

Total shareholder fund.........1791.

Total Assets...................8948.

Revenue(qtr)...................209.

Profits (qtr}..................62

Armada borrowings March 2019 as follows:

{In million Rm}
1.Perpetual Bond...............0.
2.Loan & borrowings..........6786.
3.Lease........................29.
4.Loan & Borrowing......... .3194.
5.Put option liability.........414.
6.Derivative...................0.
Total loan exposure...........10423.

Total shareholder fund.........3363.

Total Assets...................15540

Revemue(Qtr)...................491.

Profits {QTR}...................62

From the above u notice Armada is 2x bigger than yinson, thus Yinson Gearing is not much different from armada.


Posted by Mr Jho Sailang Petron & GCB > Jul 7, 2019 11:11 AM | Report Abuse

but your armada loss making, yinson is profitable leh


VSOLAR Sailang Margin All In
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Posted by VSOLAR Sailang Margin All In > Jul 7, 2019 11:22 AM | Report Abuse

where got same don't con me lah, armada EPS 1.06 cents only, yinson EPS 4.55 cents leh, 4x more liaooo no wonder yinson worth so much more


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Jul 7, 2019 11:39 AM | Report Abuse

Same in this case in the latest qtr Armada make Rm 62m n yinson make Rm 62m profit mah..!!

But..but...Armada mkt cap Rm 1b v Yinson Mkt cap Rm 7b woh....!!

Big appreciation opportunity for armada loh...!!


posted by Mr Jho Sailang Petron & GCB > Jul 7, 2019 11:22 AM | Report Abuse

where got same don't con me lah, armada EPS 1.06 cents only, yinson EPS 4.55 cents leh, 4x more liaooo no wonder yinson worth so much more


VSOLAR Sailang Margin All In
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Posted by VSOLAR Sailang Margin All In > Jul 7, 2019 11:41 AM | Report Abuse

you lying again where got same, you know how to calculate EPS kah?

EPS = Earnings / Total shares outstanding

if one company has 1 billion shares, make 10 million profit also, EPS is 1 cents , but another company has 10 million shares and 10 million profit , EPS is 100 cents or RM 1.00, where got same?

you think i young and dumb meh? I am young but not dumb lah


stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Jul 7, 2019 11:46 AM | Report Abuse

USE UR BRAIN RIGHT LOH....!!

Do not get it wrong....we are not talking of eps loh....we r saying profit the same mah...!!

same in this case in the latest qtr Armada make Rm 62m n yinson make Rm 62m profit mah..!!

THIS HOW U MAKE MONIES LOH..!!
"But..but...Armada mkt cap Rm 1b v Yinson Mkt cap Rm 7b woh....!!"

Big appreciation opportunity for armada loh...!

Posted by Mr Jho Sailang Petron & GCB > Jul 7, 2019 11:41 AM | Report Abuse

you lying again where got same, you know how to calculate EPS kah?

EPS = Earnings / Total shares outstanding

if one company has 1 billion shares, make 10 million profit also, EPS is 1 cents , but another company has 10 million shares and 10 million profit , EPS is 100 cents or RM 1.00, where got same?

you think i young and dumb meh? I am young but not dumb lah


VSOLAR Sailang Margin All In
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Posted by VSOLAR Sailang Margin All In > Jul 7, 2019 11:47 AM | Report Abuse

okay lah let you win, Armada better than Yinson. Okay bye bye have fun


Philip Greta
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Posted by Philip Greta > Jul 7, 2019 11:54 AM | Report Abuse

This is the valuation part which office boy doesn't know how to value. Depreciation costs, amortisation costs and fair value.

If you buy a piece of land for 1 million, but got radioactive elements found, how does the valuation of the land become when no one wants to touch the land, no one wants to buy the land, give free also don't want? You need to revalue properly right?.

Same thing with Armada. Their ships are old and useless, not efficient, no one wants to buy them at " valuation" prices, can't generate income,40% utilization rates.

So how? Revalue properly lo. In the real world ( not lived in by raider) impairments occur when the business is no longer generating returns as per valuation, gets hit by higher finance costs.

That is why investors who only look at one metric instead of entire company performance vs peers....

Tend to end up like stockraider.

Forever working for other people, cranky and angry office boys...

So sad, but love to give their wrong advice to people all the time.

Nothing to say about poorly trained investors who say hengyuan is worth 35, DGSB up from 4.5 to 9 cents ( instead of reverse split, he thinks his share of doubled) and if course thinks sapura will be rm3 soon.


>>>>>>>>>>

Total Assets...................15540


Philip Greta
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Posted by Philip Greta > Jul 7, 2019 12:00 PM | Report Abuse

Yeah let office boy win. Important is not the words which he try to conquer every where, important is the fact that my share block which was worth rm4.09 at beginning of January has gone up this week on GOOD MANAGEMENT, HUGE CONTRACT WINS AND VERY FAIR ESTIMATE OF FUTURE EARNINGS.

GOOD LUCK STOCKRAIDER. JUST DON'T QUIT YOUR DAY JOB OK?

WORKING FOR OTHERS IS HARD AND BEING TREATED LIKE A DOG IS SAD. SO I LET YOU CLAIM YOUR TIARA ON I3 FORUM AS BEST STOCK TRADER. I'M SURE YOU MAKE BIG BIG MONEY TALKING BAD ABOUT OTHER INVESTMENTS BUT YOUR OWN PERSONAL PORTFOLIO AFTER SO LONG ONLY MAKE PEANUTS.

AND DON'T DARE TO POST YOUR SHAREHOLDINGS ALSO.

JUST LIKE CALVIN SIFU YOUR MASTER WITH 33 SHARES TO PROMOTE.


klee
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Posted by klee > Jul 7, 2019 1:34 PM | Report Abuse

stockraider thinks armada and sapnrg are great businesses...he thinks he is better than all the IB's and even Mr Market cannot compare to him......hahahahaha


MrFox
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Posted by MrFox > Jul 7, 2019 1:49 PM | Report Abuse

that raider talk thru his ass rather than his mouth!


klee
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Posted by klee > Jul 7, 2019 1:51 PM | Report Abuse

you can argue till the cows come home,at the end of the day if you bank account does not reflect your debating skills,then you must be terribly wrong somewhere.....any 10 yo can understand this,oh boy kids nowadays are so advanced.


W205
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Posted by W205 > Jul 7, 2019 7:58 PM | Report Abuse

Philips is one of the best contributor on i3. I hope he does not entertain nuisance like stockraider. Remember stockraider was the one cheering for RM 50 Hengyuan last year. A wise person would take stockraider's advice with a pinch of salt. If there is an ignore functin on i3, stockraider would be the first on my list.


klee
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Posted by klee > Jul 7, 2019 8:18 PM | Report Abuse

Yes,so what happen to our self proclaimed general raider and his RM50.00 hengyuan?Talking about flops.


Nowek
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Posted by Nowek > Jul 8, 2019 12:12 PM | Report Abuse

i want to buy this stock today.still good to buy with current price or not sifus?


thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 9, 2019 4:34 PM | Report Abuse

Prediction cun cun this week hit 7 more to come


thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 9, 2019 4:41 PM | Report Abuse

Hopefully after Agm 7.50 wink wink


Abba84
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Posted by Abba84 > Jul 9, 2019 5:01 PM | Report Abuse

Thesteward when is their AGM?


thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 9, 2019 5:36 PM | Report Abuse

Oh dear oh dear laugh die me . Just because Armada market cap is smaller huge appreciation chances than Yinson ???? Aiyoh what kind of logic is that .
I hv some armada at .18 as earlier posted but it is just minimal coz I think worst is over , N I do believe armada sud go up if they get their act right and at current price still pretty ok (if they get their act right).
But Yinson ...hello it is a different animal altogether .
Yinson even at 6.10 I was adding . Posted here.
Pls read on the business , study the growth n management before commenting . Coz if not it is making a fool of ourselves
Already mentioned at 5.20 n 5.90 (earlier post) whoever take profit then -regret .
Haha as prediction this week hit 7 cun cun .
Said it won’t happrn end of last month . Even last week didn’t hit 7.
Anyway let’s hope for 7.50 SOON ...nexr week.
Will get back to you on Agm date afterwards .
The heart of any company is the management always remember that .
Btw for every rm1k investment in Yinson 10 years ago will over rm73k now hahaha . Don’t believe go n count.
Hymmm maybe I should wait for another 10 years? Keke
Calvintan’s Bjcorp 10 years ago if invest rm1k now tinggal Tulang? Haha


thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 9, 2019 5:43 PM | Report Abuse

Agm date haven’t been announced but based on past should be soon?


thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 9, 2019 6:02 PM | Report Abuse

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/yinson-rated-new-outperform-credit-suisse-tp-rm888


thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 9, 2019 6:03 PM | Report Abuse

Guys ....saw?
Say liao ma don’t panic sell when last q result out ... already factored in ma


thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 9, 2019 6:04 PM | Report Abuse

Whoever got scared by calvin tan ...I feel so bad for you all... la.
Faith is opposite of Fear


thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 9, 2019 6:22 PM | Report Abuse

If not wrong Agm this Thursday ...gogogo Yinson pls hit 7.50 SOON


wotvr
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Posted by wotvr > Jul 9, 2019 6:25 PM | Report Abuse

Yinson reminds me of sapurakencana before it crash. Analyst give to RM 8 plus when it was RM 4


Abba84
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Posted by Abba84 > Jul 9, 2019 6:25 PM | Report Abuse

Sud be on 11/july..as most people says..


thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 9, 2019 6:26 PM | Report Abuse

Guys any of your hv CS full report pls share . I want to see how many jobs they take into account .
But my view is Mbb’s most accurate . Mbb has started coverage on Yinson many years ago when they first venture in FPSO .
Anyway ...gogogo Yinson .
Even international IB give such high TP . Good !


thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 9, 2019 6:47 PM | Report Abuse

Wakaka wanna compare Sapura w Yinson ..
This is a bigger joke than comparing Armada w Yinson
At least Armada I personally also feel there is hope already
Wakaka Wakaka ....
Oh dear oh dear ...
Got study or not before commenting .
Why suddenly appear all those that has not been in this tread before one . Smell much sour grapes lo
Back in 2012 this thread darn quiet hahaha . Then 2013 became popular , haha hahaha
Sapura fm 4+ became .30 Sen in 6 years . Yinson from mkt cap below half billion became how many billion??
Aiyoh ...let’s give more concrete sharings la . Not just simply commenting without basis . Hahaha


Midnite
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Posted by Midnite > Jul 9, 2019 7:20 PM | Report Abuse

See u at 7.36 tomorrow. The end.


Abba84
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Posted by Abba84 > Jul 9, 2019 7:25 PM | Report Abuse

Those who miss on fact sheets 8.88 may still hve a window to acquire.some..


thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 9, 2019 8:18 PM | Report Abuse

Mbb research TP is 9.45 ...I think MBB has longer relationship w this co n knows more indepth


thesteward
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Posted by thesteward > Jul 9, 2019 10:29 PM | Report Abuse

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/%E7%91%9E%E4%BF%A1%E5%AF%B9%E4%BA%91%E5%8D%87%E5%B1%95%E5%BC%80%E7%A0%94%E7%A9%B6-%E7%BB%99%E4%BA%88%E8%B6%85%E8%B6%8A%E5%A4%A7%E5%B8%82%E8%AF%84%E7%BA%A7


Midnite
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Posted by Midnite > Jul 9, 2019 11:15 PM | Report Abuse

Foreign funds are accumulating. Cheers. Tomorrow ath round.


Myeye
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Posted by Myeye > Jul 10, 2019 9:44 AM | Report Abuse

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