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cykoay
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Posted by cykoay > Apr 9, 2014 3:35 PM | Report Abuse

not supposed to be dividend payment month in next month? isn't it?


JXRepcoBuffet
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Posted by JXRepcoBuffet > Apr 9, 2014 3:38 PM | Report Abuse

should be June if follow pas year trend....


up_up_up
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Posted by up_up_up > Apr 9, 2014 3:54 PM | Report Abuse

Announcement made on mid/ May, Ex-date mid/June, payment on July for pass 2 years.


fjleo
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Posted by fjleo > Apr 9, 2014 4:13 PM | Report Abuse

gambateh


hentaiboy
71 posts

Posted by hentaiboy > Apr 9, 2014 5:25 PM | Report Abuse

I missed my chance to enter this morning. Gap up too much... :(


maps
147 posts

Posted by maps > Apr 9, 2014 6:13 PM | Report Abuse

normally on average what sort of dividends would this company offer based on past records


up_up_up
616 posts

Posted by up_up_up > Apr 9, 2014 7:01 PM | Report Abuse

15 cents on May for pass two years. KCCHONG had wrote few excellent articles on this company, you should dig out and read. ;-)


bracoli
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Posted by bracoli > Apr 9, 2014 7:03 PM | Report Abuse

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/forum/600046408.jsp

Here you go master kcchongz FA analysis ptaras.


bing
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Posted by bing > Apr 9, 2014 7:47 PM | Report Abuse

Real power you!


Sapphire
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Posted by Sapphire > Apr 10, 2014 10:25 AM | Report Abuse

hey buddy..ksl going fly sooon...


LATO' SELI
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Posted by LATO' SELI > Apr 10, 2014 4:25 PM | Report Abuse

Friends; come join us.

Buy buy buy


sl3ge
132 posts

Posted by sl3ge > Apr 10, 2014 5:25 PM | Report Abuse

slow and steady win the game!


Dong Yer
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Posted by Dong Yer > Apr 10, 2014 7:54 PM | Report Abuse

Gong xi Fa Chai!!!!


matrix6050
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Posted by matrix6050 > Apr 11, 2014 2:39 AM | Report Abuse

Continue to wait for the durian to drop :)


wongkok
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Posted by wongkok > Apr 11, 2014 3:36 PM | Report Abuse

Went through Econpile's prospectus and found out they have a bigger market share and order book. Sifu KCCHONG have you compare Econpile's result againts Ptaras?


kcchongnz
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Posted by kcchongnz > Apr 11, 2014 3:58 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by wongkok > Apr 11, 2014 03:36 PM | Report Abuse

Went through Econpile's prospectus and found out they have a bigger market share and order book. Sifu KCCHONG have you compare Econpile's result againts Ptaras?

Good suggestion. But are you more interested in order book, or the bottom line, or the efficiency in terms of ROE, and ROIC, balance sheet and cash flow?

By the way Econpile is not listed yet. You can look at its performance and compare with Pintaras from its prospectus. This is quite an apple to apple comparison.

I do not have the prospectus. But just read about the news below, I think Econpile can't smell the fart of Pintaras. A net profit margin of 7.2%? How to compare with the 30% of Pintaras? What about cash position? Public listed money part to pay debt, while Pintaras has RM1 per share of cash?

"For the financial year ended June 30, 2013 (FY13), Econpile’s profit after tax surged 61.74% to RM27.87mil from RM17.23mil in the year before, while turnover leapt 26.25% to RM386.07mil versus RM305.78mil previously."

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2013/11/18/Econpile-plans-to-list-on-Main-Market.aspx/


wongkok
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Posted by wongkok > Apr 11, 2014 4:24 PM | Report Abuse

MD of Ptaras expressed concerned in the recent result announcement of rising material prices, shortage of skilled labour and new market entrant. Are these factors a cause of concern given that entry barrier to piling industry is low and what is the competitive edge of Ptaras as compare to other market participants?


kcchongnz
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Posted by kcchongnz > Apr 11, 2014 4:28 PM | Report Abuse

I have written many articles on Pintaras below:

http://klse.i3investor.com/jsp/blog/blallpost.jsp?blid=1286

If you are interested, go read. And if you have any concern about the industry, don't get near it. It is a dog-eat-dog world.

There are so many choices to invest in Bursa. Invest in your zone of comfort.


Lah Pak
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Posted by Lah Pak > Apr 12, 2014 4:37 PM | Report Abuse

Cambridge definition of “dog-eat-dog” - used to describe a situation in which people will do anything to be successful, even if what they do harms other people.


Lah Pak
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Posted by Lah Pak > Apr 12, 2014 5:58 PM | Report Abuse

Wait for a retrace and collect somemore. I bet not many would know ptaras without highlights from kcchongnz. Thanks for bringing up this good stuff.


up_up_up
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Posted by up_up_up > Apr 14, 2014 3:23 PM | Report Abuse

Remain green today although many others dropping..awesome


Sapphire
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Posted by Sapphire > Apr 15, 2014 6:56 PM | Report Abuse

yes...kcchong...its on ur expectation..now3.50 dy..


Lah Pak
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Posted by Lah Pak > Apr 15, 2014 7:51 PM | Report Abuse

Many thanks kcchongnz! Very grateful for what you have shared with us.


Kian Giap Yu
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Posted by Kian Giap Yu > Apr 15, 2014 7:56 PM | Report Abuse

Good first quarter expected !


Kian Giap Yu
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Posted by Kian Giap Yu > Apr 15, 2014 7:57 PM | Report Abuse

I know you can fly !


Sapphire
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Posted by Sapphire > Apr 15, 2014 8:23 PM | Report Abuse

can fly to rm6.00???


Lah Pak
197 posts

Posted by Lah Pak > Apr 15, 2014 10:17 PM | Report Abuse

I would be happy if price is edging up 5 cents every trading day.


bracoli
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Posted by bracoli > Apr 16, 2014 9:30 AM | Report Abuse

Quietly moving to rm4! kikikiki
Paklah untung lah u, kikiki


fjleo
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Posted by fjleo > Apr 16, 2014 12:15 PM | Report Abuse

lol


JXRepcoBuffet
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Posted by JXRepcoBuffet > Apr 16, 2014 2:56 PM | Report Abuse

wow.... steady....


sl3ge
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Posted by sl3ge > Apr 16, 2014 2:57 PM | Report Abuse

keep moving... but no more bullet to top up ler...


coolio
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Posted by coolio > Apr 16, 2014 3:33 PM | Report Abuse

keep moving up for last 10 days!!


up_up_up
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Posted by up_up_up > Apr 16, 2014 3:57 PM | Report Abuse

so bullish...wao..:D


lcng123
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Posted by lcng123 > Apr 16, 2014 4:08 PM | Report Abuse

rm3.68 hit history record now.


sbg3106
351 posts

Posted by sbg3106 > Apr 16, 2014 4:10 PM | Report Abuse

totally miss the boat, wait for correction but never turn back


PeaceOfMind
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Posted by PeaceOfMind > Apr 16, 2014 5:29 PM | Report Abuse

nice 1.. strong piling.. kekeke


shahpress
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Posted by shahpress > Apr 16, 2014 7:03 PM | Report Abuse

hmmm nice..all due to pintaras excellent performance...


Lah Pak
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Posted by Lah Pak > Apr 16, 2014 8:59 PM | Report Abuse

Bracoli, naseb baek kita terserempak posting oleh kcchongnz. Ada beli sikit sikit, sini (ptaras) untung, sana (ghlsys) rugi. Boleh simpan ptaras untuk 2 tahun.


Lah Pak
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Posted by Lah Pak > Apr 16, 2014 9:10 PM | Report Abuse

I'm in the construction industry, and I know ptaras very well. They have been making hefty margins because they now own a lot machineries (no need to rent), they have been able to deliver works ahead of schedules (save money on overheads), and they have successfully handed over every single job they have undertaken (no liability). Last but not least, they do not have issues in collecting receivables (retention sum collected). Like what kcchongnz pointed out, this group of people are genuine in doing business, and have been very competent during execution phase (less defects means more cream). Good luck folks!


Lah Pak
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Posted by Lah Pak > Apr 16, 2014 9:12 PM | Report Abuse

I heard another project announcement is imminent! Price increase has been gradual and volume is healthy.


addylee
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Posted by addylee > Apr 16, 2014 11:27 PM | Report Abuse

later like datasonic.. lol ..


kcchongnz
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Posted by kcchongnz > Apr 17, 2014 5:05 AM | Report Abuse

Posted by addylee > Apr 16, 2014 11:27 PM | Report Abuse
later like datasonic.. lol ..

Even a great company's stock can become very risky if it is chased up to very high price, and investors can lose money. But we must have a feel of its intrinsic value before we can conclude if the price is very high now.

The intrinsic value can only be estimated by examining the quality of its business in terms of its past and future expected performance, and knowing how to analyze and value its business.

Pintaras has elevated itself to another level with the recent procurement of projects. Its intrinsic value is no longer the same as what I have attempted to estimate a year or two ago. In my opinion. its share price now is still way below its intrinsic value.

I see no other short cut for a true investor to earn extra-ordinary return from the market, not only for Pintaras, but for all companies.


bracoli
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Posted by bracoli > Apr 17, 2014 7:51 AM | Report Abuse

aiyo addylee, ptaras absolutely cannot compare with Dsonic! its like an apple compare to a cat!


bracoli
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Posted by bracoli > Apr 17, 2014 7:53 AM | Report Abuse

@PakLah, yea because of the generosity high level investor kcchongz and also otb, big heart enough to contribute their analysis. others juz like me.. koking here and koking there.. hehe


cstan
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Posted by cstan > Apr 17, 2014 10:57 AM | Report Abuse

Pak Lah posted interesting industry knowledge of Pintaras. Thanks.


cstan
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Posted by cstan > Apr 17, 2014 11:48 AM | Report Abuse

Further on Pak Lah's comments, it's good to hear Pintaras' high margins are largely due to operational efficiencies, which would be more durable than if due to tight supply, where new capacity can be quickly added.


kcchongnz
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Posted by kcchongnz > Apr 17, 2014 12:57 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by Pak Lah > Apr 16, 2014 09:10 PM | Report Abuse

I'm in the construction industry, and I know ptaras very well. They have been making hefty margins because they now own a lot machineries (no need to rent), they have been able to deliver works ahead of schedules (save money on overheads), and they have successfully handed over every single job they have undertaken (no liability). Last but not least, they do not have issues in collecting receivables (retention sum collected). Like what kcchongnz pointed out, this group of people are genuine in doing business, and have been very competent during execution phase (less defects means more cream). Good luck folks!

Good to hear another person who knows Pintaras well. Just to add some more comments here.

Heavy foundation is a very unique construction segment. It requires specialized technical knowledge and experience, plant and equipment, the hands on approach and the full commitment of the key persons in the company. Heavy foundation is a complicated construction segment, involving doing things you can't see.

Most developers are very demanding. They want the jobs to be completed yesterday. So without the above, a contractor simply can't do it. But if you can, and if proven you have done it many times, the developers would pay whatever you want (almost) because they just can't find others to promise or have shown capability to do so.

So for a big foundation project like Wawasan Merdeka and the the other project of more than 70m to be completed in a year, it is very hard to find a good contractor which you have confident on, and you may pay whatever is asked if you find one. This is the scenario now for foundation works, I think, with all the LRT, MRT, and the developments around them.

That is why I believe the good time for Pintaras has just begun.


matrix6050
1244 posts

Posted by matrix6050 > Apr 17, 2014 2:02 PM | Report Abuse

The intrinsic value will never ever be the same again based on just the contract that awarded this year and I agree it is hard to find another contractor like Pintaras that is so good. If you do another DCF analysis based on the potential revenue generation in 2014 & 2015, you can roughly see how is the stock price will perform.

Buy and keep for long term and you will be rewarded handsomely.

Kcchongz, thanks for the write up, sharing and educate the i3 members. You have my respect and I wish I will have the chance to meet you one day :)

Cheers


bracoli
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Posted by bracoli > Apr 18, 2014 9:26 AM | Report Abuse

4 linggit liao!!


peiyee
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Posted by peiyee > Apr 18, 2014 9:30 AM | Report Abuse

yah loh, up so fast i also become worried.

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