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chankinwah
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Posted by chankinwah > Jan 28, 2014 12:33 PM | Report Abuse

whats the coupon rate for this icul?


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 4, 2014 7:59 AM | Report Abuse

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lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 4, 2014 7:59 AM | Report Abuse

this counter can make a lot of profit


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 4, 2014 8:05 AM | Report Abuse

After 3 years, for every 1.32 convert to 1 mother share. For instance, if you bot 132,000 YTL Land-LA, you can convert to mother share at the specific mentioned time frame became 100,000 mother shares( 132,000/1.32) where your conversion price = 1.32 X 0.42=RM0.5544 and compare mother share rm0.91, then expected profit in near future= 100,000 X (RM0.91-RM0.5544)= RM35,560 or 64% profit which have not taken into ICULS interest received. However, if YTL Corp want to privatise YTL Land in the near future, they could offer NTA price(Net Tangible Assets).RM1.10 to RM1.50 = expected profit RM54,560 to RM94,560.

Conclusion:- Very seldom people know to invest loan stocks have bigger returns than mother share.
Please invest and dont wait.

This is a suggestion and not use for your investment decision.


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 6, 2014 8:24 AM | Report Abuse

It seen to be no one know to make more money by investing this counter.


i3i2i1
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Posted by i3i2i1 > Jun 6, 2014 8:49 AM | Report Abuse

when this start and we must wait for 3 years?


hoongthegreat
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Posted by hoongthegreat > Jun 6, 2014 9:14 AM | Report Abuse

You forgot the dilution effect of the new converted shares.


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 6, 2014 1:49 PM | Report Abuse

No effects as company have more property development. Same as LBS, effect dillution effect only short term and lbs fly from rm0.50 to rm1.80


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 6, 2014 1:50 PM | Report Abuse

my frined became of millionaire (RM8,000,000 wealth) by investing loan stock counters since 1970s and now he is peacefully retired.


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 6, 2014 1:51 PM | Report Abuse

frinned= friend


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 7, 2014 1:01 PM | Report Abuse

buy ytl land-la for medium term to make 6 figures profits.


winterwolf
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Posted by winterwolf > Jun 7, 2014 8:18 PM | Report Abuse

Excercise price is 1.32

Exercise/ Conversion Ratio 2.64 ICULS : One (1) ordinary share of RM0.50 each in YTL Land ("YTL Land Share")


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 14, 2014 6:41 AM | Report Abuse

This 2.64 conversion ratio only for 1st 4 years, and next 3 years will be 1.98 and another next 3 years will be 1.32


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 16, 2014 1:17 PM | Report Abuse

buy ytl land-la for long term investment and make six figures money to buy property.


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 16, 2014 1:43 PM | Report Abuse

If buy 660,000 units YTL Land _LA, conver to mother shares 600,000 / 1.32= 500,000 units and conversion price rm0.425 X 1.32 = RM0.561 compare to current market price of RM0.91 and will earn RM174,500 profit. If mother share go up to rm2.00, you will earn RM383,516 profit, if RM6.00, profit= RM1,150,548. Dont you tihnk easy to become millionaire?


Carson Teor
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Posted by Carson Teor > Jun 17, 2014 9:42 AM | Report Abuse

is your friend buying YTLland LA?


hoongthegreat
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Posted by hoongthegreat > Jun 19, 2014 8:41 AM | Report Abuse

There is a flaw in the calculation. You need 2.64 ICULS to convert to 1 share of ytlland. At .43 sen, the cost of ytlland is 1.135. It is only at the end of conversion period you can make money.


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 19, 2014 9:39 PM | Report Abuse

for long term investment 5 years you can see fruits ( 6 figures)


TomJerry
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Posted by TomJerry > Jun 19, 2014 10:19 PM | Report Abuse

4th years above , the price for buying LA very worth it .


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 20, 2014 11:01 PM | Report Abuse

buy that time, the price of ytl land-la would be higher.


CautiousTrader
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Posted by CautiousTrader > Jun 23, 2014 11:48 AM | Report Abuse

lai81533, just want to clarify something. This YTL Land-LA is listed some where in JAN 2012. So does it mean in JAN 2016 is considered 4th years already? Please advice and thanks.


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 23, 2014 1:22 PM | Report Abuse

you are right. invest and wait for next 5 years would have conversion ratio:- 1.32 instead of 2.64 currently. You would make capital gain. Beside this, you would make interest gain . 0.03/0.435=6.45% , now giving 3% (Rm0.015) and next 2 years (RM0.0225) per year.

Further detail refer page 66 to 70 http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/918444


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 23, 2014 1:24 PM | Report Abuse

Interest gain more than FD rate and capital gainmore than usual gain in coomon equity. 70% to 100% capital gain but depend on mother share price few years doqn the road.


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 24, 2014 9:03 AM | Report Abuse

Please invest in this counter if you want to make profit in long term


George Richard
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Posted by George Richard > Jun 24, 2014 1:41 PM | Report Abuse

yes if you want to wait 5 years;


kt888 88
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Posted by kt888 88 > Jun 24, 2014 2:12 PM | Report Abuse

How much profit i can earn if i invest 10k after 5 years?


bukithot
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Posted by bukithot > Jun 25, 2014 10:18 PM | Report Abuse

lai, "If buy 660,000 units YTL Land _LA, conver to mother shares 600,000 / 1.32= 500,000 units and conversion price rm0.425 X 1.32 = RM0.561 compare to current market price of RM0.91 and will earn RM174,500 profit. If mother share go up to rm2.00, you will earn RM383,516 profit, if RM6.00, profit= RM1,150,548. Dont you tihnk easy to become millionaire?"
Why divide by 1.32 to get 500k units for conversion? Current price 0.43 + conversion price 1.32 = 1.75!! Pay 1.75 to get 0.43 market price? Become millionaire?


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 26, 2014 7:52 AM | Report Abuse

every 1.32 YTL Land-LA would convert to mother share 1 in next 5 year. Now not to convert because converson ratio is very high 2.64:1 . Now buy for interest gain as company would pay interest every half year 1st 4 year RM0.015, (3.49%=RM0.015/RM0.43)next 3 years RM0.0225 (5.21%=RM0.0225/RM0.43)/and final 3 years RM0.03. (6.98%= RM0.03/RM0.425) = higher than FD rate and now is in year 3.
East to become millionaire as my friend did that where he invested loan stock in year 1980s and now he bot property, car all by cash.


bukithot
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Posted by bukithot > Jun 26, 2014 1:33 PM | Report Abuse

u meant conversion ratio is 1.32 LA : 1 Share? where did u find this info? I only saw conversion price is RM 1.32. Did I missout anything?


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 27, 2014 8:12 AM | Report Abuse

Further detail refer page 66 to 70 http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/918444


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 27, 2014 8:13 AM | Report Abuse

faster buy in keep to build up your wealth in future and make million of profits. instead play short term can not see fruits. This is use of SEE FAR CATCH BIG FISH


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 27, 2014 8:15 AM | Report Abuse

Income worth to invest YTL Land-LA


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 27, 2014 1:38 PM | Report Abuse

buy as many as possible to make higher profit to become millionaire


bukithot
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Posted by bukithot > Jun 27, 2014 10:39 PM | Report Abuse

I am afraid that you are wrong about the conversion ratio. It didnt mention 1.32 conversion ratio. RM 1.32 is conversion price, that you pay for 1 LA convert to 1 YTL Land share. Hope you can show me the paragraph that mention the conversion ratio. Else, your calculation is flawed and misleading.


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 28, 2014 4:04 PM | Report Abuse

is correct. i have confirmed with registrar. you can check.


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 28, 2014 4:04 PM | Report Abuse

Further detail refer page 66 to 70 http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/918444


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 28, 2014 4:05 PM | Report Abuse

the hard copy page it self not pdf page.


hoongthegreat
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Posted by hoongthegreat > Jun 28, 2014 4:27 PM | Report Abuse

2577LA YTLLAND-LA YTL LAND & DEVELOPMENT-ICULS
Profile for Loan StocksInstrument Type : Loan Stocks

Description :
RM496,189,011.50 nominal value of ten (10)-year 3.0% stepping up to 6.0%
irredeemable convertible unsecured loan stocks ("ICULS") at 100% of nominal
value of RM0.50 per ICULSListing Date : 04/11/2011
Issue Date :
31/10/2011Issue/ Ask Price : MYR 0.5000
Issue Size in Currency : MYR
496189011.5000Maturity Date : 31/10/2021
Revised Maturity Date :
Exercise/Conversion Period : 10.00 Year(s)
Exercise/ Strike/ Conversion
Price : MYR 1.3200Revised Exercise/ Strike/ Conversion Price : MYR
0.0000Exercise/ Conversion Ratio : 2.64 ICULS : One (1) ordinary share of
RM0.50 each in YTL Land ("YTL Land Share")Revised Exercise/ Conversion Ratio
: Mode of Satisfaction of Exercise/Conversion Price : Tendering of
securitiesSettlement Type/ Convertible into : Physical (Shares)
Remarks :
Please note that the conversion price stated in this announcement is applicable
only for conversion at any time from the date of issue up to the fourth (4th)
anniversary.
For conversion at any time after the fourth (4th) anniversary
of the date of issue up to the seventh (7th) anniversary, the conversion price
is RM0.99. The corresponding conversion ratio is 1.98 ICULS : One (1) YTL Land
Share.
For conversion at any time after the seventh (7th) anniversary of the
date of issue up to the maturity date, the conversion price is RM0.66. The
corresponding conversion ratio is 1.32 ICULS : One (1) YTL Land Share.


26/10/2013 07:01 AM


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jun 30, 2014 1:26 PM | Report Abuse

Great. good time for investment in YTL Land-LA to make huge profit. If ytl land mother share go up above rm3.50, you will become millionaire.


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Jul 1, 2014 9:46 PM | Report Abuse

please any one read then publish for me


Golden Timeline
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Posted by Golden Timeline > Jul 6, 2014 10:10 AM | Report Abuse

you put your money all into this share is it lai81533?


Ayam3
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Posted by Ayam3 > Jul 30, 2014 1:32 PM | Report Abuse

I put 8.88888% of my $$ here, (hopefully Ayam Tua is watching here, and ask me why)


Ayam3
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Posted by Ayam3 > Jul 30, 2014 1:33 PM | Report Abuse

Aksi hebat Raya 2015--- EAH, CBSA & ISCFMSC


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Aug 30, 2014 5:22 PM | Report Abuse

yes


lai81533
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Posted by lai81533 > Aug 30, 2014 5:23 PM | Report Abuse

expect to make XXXXXXRM


Joyce
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Posted by Joyce > Oct 8, 2014 4:25 PM | Report Abuse

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今天你為自己貼上什麼樣的標籤,或許就決定了明天你是否會被委以重任。

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而是主動去了解自己應該做什麼,然後全力以赴地去完成。


superegg
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Posted by superegg > Nov 10, 2014 12:19 PM | Report Abuse

YTLLAND-LA - can we sell it later after we bought ?


Kingoreng
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Posted by Kingoreng > Dec 28, 2014 10:30 PM | Report Abuse

Hello mr . Lai r u sure u know about conversion?


Kingoreng
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Posted by Kingoreng > Dec 28, 2014 10:31 PM | Report Abuse

Hv you convert a share before?


Kingoreng
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Posted by Kingoreng > Dec 28, 2014 10:38 PM | Report Abuse

Pls studying first.u think Francis yeoh stupid?

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