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KLSE: QL       QL RESOURCES BHD
Last Price Avg Target Price   Upside/Downside Price Call
9.68 8.74     -0.94 (9.71%)
* Average Target Price, Price Call and Upside/Downside are derived from Price Targets in the past 6 months.
** Price Targets are adjusted for Bonus Issue, Shares Split & Shares Consolidation (where applicable).
Date Open Price Target Price Upside/Downside Price Call Source News
30/07/2020 9.73 9.05 -0.68 (6.99%) SELL KENANGA Price Target News
30/06/2020 9.79 8.85 -0.94 (9.60%) HOLD PUBLIC BANK Price Target News
30/06/2020 9.79 9.21 -0.58 (5.92%) HOLD MIDF Price Target News
30/06/2020 9.79 9.05 -0.74 (7.56%) HOLD KENANGA Price Target News
30/06/2020 9.79 8.75 -1.04 (10.62%) HOLD HLG Price Target News
30/06/2020 9.79 9.00 -0.79 (8.07%) HOLD BIMB Price Target News
30/06/2020 9.79 10.50 +0.71 (7.25%) BUY AffinHwang Price Target News
29/05/2020 9.50 8.85 -0.65 (6.84%) HOLD PUBLIC BANK Price Target News
02/04/2020 7.48 8.20 +0.72 (9.63%) HOLD HLG Price Target News
27/03/2020 7.20 8.10 +0.90 (12.50%) BUY BIMB Price Target News
28/02/2020 8.22 8.50 +0.28 (3.41%) HOLD PUBLIC BANK Price Target News
28/02/2020 8.22 7.46 -0.76 (9.25%) HOLD MIDF Price Target News
28/02/2020 8.22 8.30 +0.08 (0.97%) HOLD KENANGA Price Target News
28/02/2020 8.22 8.20 -0.02 (0.24%) HOLD HLG Price Target News
28/02/2020 8.22 9.30 +1.08 (13.14%) BUY AffinHwang Price Target News
27/02/2020 8.20 8.10 -0.10 (1.22%) HOLD BIMB Price Target News
13/02/2020 8.28 9.30 +1.02 (12.32%) BUY AffinHwang Price Target News
12/02/2020 8.10 8.30 +0.20 (2.47%) HOLD KENANGA Price Target News


Price Target Research Article/News (past 6 months)
30/07/2020  KENANGA QL Resources Bhd - A Peek Into 1QFY21
30/06/2020  PUBLIC BANK QL Resources Berhad- Continues To Deliver Strong Growth
30/06/2020  MIDF QL Resources - Marine Product Manufacturing Segment Lifts
30/06/2020  KENANGA QL Resources Bhd - Solid FY20
30/06/2020  HLG QL Resources - Consumer Staple Relatively Safe From Covid
30/06/2020  BIMB QL Resources- Resilient despite tougher times
30/06/2020  AffinHwang QL Resources- FY20: Within Expectations
29/05/2020  PUBLIC BANK QL Resources Berhad- Remain Resilient
02/04/2020  HLG QL Resources - To Mirror the CP Experience?
27/03/2020  BIMB QL Resources - Persistently Resilience Despite Tougher Times
28/02/2020  PUBLIC BANK QL Resources Berhad - Consistent Growth From MPM & ILF
28/02/2020  MIDF QL Resources Berhad - Solid Performance From the Poultry Segment
28/02/2020  KENANGA QL Resources Bhd - 9MFY19 Within Expectations
28/02/2020  HLG QL Resources - Earnings Growing as Expected
28/02/2020  AffinHwang QL Resources - Resilient Performance
27/02/2020  BIMB QL Resources - Within expectations
13/02/2020  AffinHwang QL Resources - Well Positioned for a Solid Future
12/02/2020  KENANGA QL Resources Bhd - Firming Up A Rosy FY20



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Sslee Dear Philip
Since you ask a question so I just answer your question sincerely. I am glad and happy for you that you make millions with QL but do you need to belittle other “I expected better from a UM graduate” as if you are the only knowledgeable and with proven track record to goes round commenting about other stocks

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/teoct_blog/2020-04-25-story-h1506135641-QL_one_year_on_any_changes.jsp
Valuation
As can be seen from the above, revenue generated from ever newer plants, properties and equipment is getting lower year on year. Staff productive is also creeping down.
ROE is on the down trend too.
Operating expenses is increasing faster than the increase of revenue leading to lower nett profit margin. Higher debt financing cost is also not helping.
Another way to look at PE is the number of years one required to recoup the money used to buy the company, that is 54 years based on RM 8 per share (close 24/4/20).
Happy investing.
The usual disclaimer applies, this is for education purposes ONLY.
Me and my family no longer hold QL shares
30/06/2020 9:04 PM
Philip ( buy what you understand) You have been trying to bring down QL stocks since January 2019 with your condescending comments on my sharing of this investment and my experience on this stock and every chance you get you try to promote INSAS while trying to bring down QL.

Now it would be useful if in 2 years you are right and INSAS really rewards it's shareholders and QL overpriced and overvalued stock tanks.

However even after 1.5 years of your comments, the truth remains: your history in investing in INSAS is dead wrong, and my long term returns in QL has given me wonderful earnings.

Now, you can say whatever you want and comment all you like.

The fact remains:

You are wrong and know nothing about INSAS nor QL future prospects.

So why do you still seek to try to comment so much on QL as if you know anything about it? You are no different from those investment bankers promoting their TP and analysis with nothing to lose by being wrong.

I think you are better off just avoiding investments and talking about it and sticking to something which will not hurt you financially, like talking about politics and religion.

You seem more cut out for it anyway. In fact, you are far too stubborn and inflexible to learn from your own investing mistakes, as you seem to love repeating it over and over. I think you are better off putting your money in an index fund for sp500 or China A500 where you don't have to think about businesses so much. To invest in the market is to understand the business and the long term prospects of the business. You seem to be happy to just look at the very tip of the iceberg to define your investment criteria. Not only is this dangerous to your own financial health, you promote INSAS during investment talks and share your thought on blogs with new investors in the market, influencing them to also follow you in making bad business decisions.

There is a fine line between ego and confidence. Confidence is when someone is right, ego is when he is wrong but he still thinks he is right. How many more years need to pass by as investors make millions from investments like topglove, yinson, QL etc when the eventual consolidation comes and you can say AHA! I told you I was right, QL drop therefore it is BAD!

So I will just keep quiet and let you continue using your methodology to buy stocks, hope that you make money successfully. Hopefully you will avoid buying things that I am buying and letting me grow my position over time.
30/06/2020 10:00 PM
zen_2k Agree with Danny on this. "I like QL and their business model, but the PE is simply too high. Dividend too low. The price must come down to reflect the true value. PE60+ is crazy. Love FamilyMart but dislike the valuation." All the best.
01/07/2020 1:56 AM
Philip ( buy what you understand) You do know that their business is not just family mart right? Did you hear about the huge new expansion into Vietnam and Indonesia where they spent capex to double production? It should be completed by the end of the year and earnings to be reflected in 2021...

FYI for this who don't know, the pe has been too high since 2016.

QL is now a 15 billion company with long term performance that can see huge runway moving forward so they are spending every cent in growing the business. The business is stable enough that they can afford to pay huge growing dividends every year as well.

I find it funny how everyone keeps commenting on the pe, even though the revenues have been growing like crazy in a very tightly competitive environment. It's like finding a tiny 5 foot guy who can jump like Michael Jordan and beating all the other giants.

But everyone keeps looking at his stature to define his capability, instead of looking at the market dominance, and the capability of QL.

The only rebuttal I have is this: how has your own low PE stocks performed over the past few years?
01/07/2020 8:01 AM
Philip ( buy what you understand) Maybe zen and sslee should just put their life savings into companies like liihen, which is trading at a pe of 5.6. I'm sure the dividend and their capital will have been very well placed the last 3 years investing in liihen...
01/07/2020 8:04 AM
Sslee Good morning Philip,
Now it is down to “you promote INSAS during investment talks and share your thought on blogs with new investors in the market, influencing them to also follow you in making bad business decisions”
So please read again my i3blogger day talk and did I promote INSAS?

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/Sslee_blog/2019-03-02-story196085-Investment_Bloggers_day_I3.jsp

Then tell me did you promote Gkent since you first bought Gkent?
25-Feb-2019: Buy: GKENT +1,000,000: 1.12
And by the way since you hold millions of Gkent mind pinpoint to me your name in the top 30 shareholders in Gkent financial report?
01/07/2020 9:15 AM
Philip ( buy what you understand) Sorry I value my privacy. Like you said in your very first comment to me that I live in a imaginary world and your investment is so much better. I don't see why I should share further than what is already shared on my online portfolio.

You like to ask for so much info, but you yourself do not maintain a trackable portfolio of your own investments.

Maybe we can discuss further next time that you do that.

You have been promoting INSAS with your buy 1 share of insas get 2 share of inari etc from day 1.

I'm still waiting here for your amazing imaginary results.

FYI unless you haven't figured it out yet, my i3 name and real life is different.
01/07/2020 1:34 PM
Sslee Good afternoon Philip,
I did not in any way promote INSAS as what you implied, ‘You have been promoting INSAS with your buy 1 share of insas get 2 share of inari etc from day 1.”

I only present the facts on INSAS. So anything wrong with the facts I present?
Dear all,
Inari shares held by Insas: Inari is one of the associate companies of Insas
(1) Insas Technology Berhad : 434,769,375
(2) Media Lang Limited : 66,016,500
(3) Insas Plaza Sdn Bhd : 114,367,700
(4) Montego Assets Limited : 200,000
Total: 615,353,575.00

Number of INSAS shares issued: 663,006,342 (excluding 30,327,291 treasury shares). One Insas share indirectly hold 615,353,575/663,006,342 = 0.928 Inari
Can 3iii answer the below question.

Why buying one Inari at RM1.71 when you can use the same money to buy 2.55 Insas at 67 cents then you still indirectly hold 2.37 Inari and everything else in Insas?

You can look into segmental report Q2 and Q3 to have better understanding of segmental performance.
Financial services and credit &leasing: Investment holding and trading: Technology and IT-related manufacturing, trading and services: Retail trading and car rental: Property investment and development end Q2 and end Q3 (RM’000)
Profit/(loss) before tax: 19,287: 8,244: 21,644: 2,252: 3,386: Total 54,813
Profit/(Loss) before tax: 23,083: (56,506): 28,896: 3,173: 6,482: Total 5,128

Note: the Q3 losses are mark to market financial assets at 31th March 2020 compare to 31/12/2019
IGBREIT annual report 31-12-2019: Montego Assets Limited (PCB) 10,000,000
Market price 31/12/2019: RM 1.89: 31/03/2020: RM 1.59

Omesti annual report: 31-3-2019: Insas Berhad – – 48,659,500
Market price 31/12/2019 RM 0.51: 31/03/2020: RM 0.45

OCBC Market price 31/12/2019 SG 10.98: 31/03/2020: SG 8.64

AUD deposit Refer Financial report 2019 RM equivalent 167,694,000
Loss on exchange differences- unrealized: RM (9,454,000)
AUD to MYR: 31/12/2019 RM 2.877: 31/03/2020: RM 2.672

How much mark to market financial assets will be written back in Q4 will depend on 30/6/2020 closing price.
10/06/2020 9:13 PM
01/07/2020 2:11 PM
Philip ( buy what you understand) See? Promotion again. But can you explain why INSAS price is 0.63?
01/07/2020 2:43 PM
Sslee Haha Philip,
If I know why Mr. Market (crazy guy) only what to buy INSAS at RM 0.63 and readily pay RM 9+ for QL, I will be the richest man in Malaysia.

Similarly referred: https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/philip3/2019-03-26-story199668-THE_STORY_BEHIND_INVESTING_ON_MARGIN_AND_WHAT_TO_BUY_GKENT.jsp
I have used my excess cash and full margin to take a 1M share position in GKENT (at a average purchase price of RM1.12) yesterday after the announcement of results.
How do I protect myself and my MARGIN INVESTMENT?
Firstly, understand the company financials GKENT. If you look closely, buying it at today's figures, I am paying 630 million for a company that has a book value of RM500 million. However, it is a very cash rich company, to the tune of 260 million - 60 million debt = 200 million in CASH. What this means is if I buy over the whole company for 630 million, I still have cash in the bank of 200 million, meaning I am actually buying the company for 430 million, or RM0.77 per share.
Sounds like a good deal? It gets better. For the price I paid, I am also getting 3.5 cents DIVIDEND next month. Meaning for my investment of 1.12, I get back 3.1% dividend yield IMMEDIATELY, which is great (discount on my purchase price!). Historically, GKENT get between 7 cents to 9 cents dividend a year, which gives me a yield of around 6% at RM1.12 price. This goes a long way in paying off that margin loan that I was getting from Maybank (6.9% remember?).

So tell me if someone followed your footstep with full margin finance into Gkent at RM1.12 will he suffered margin call and lose his pants and underwear by now?
01/07/2020 4:07 PM
Philip ( buy what you understand) That is why I put my full portfolio so you know the position size of gkent in relation to my entire portfolio. You already know what size is gkent to my other investments.

If you read halfway then you only have yourself to blame.

At the same time you only read INSAS and QL story halfway and make assumptions on the long term prospects of both companies. Since you use simple metrics like balance sheet and accounting figures to define your investment philosophy instead of making more effort to understand your investments like buying the products, reading the industry journals, market reports, business journals, competition performance, and just use simple metrics to define your investment knowledge.

You have only yourself to blame for your poor long term performance since 2016. Sadly, even worse instead of asking the right questions you keep repeating the same investment philosophy and keep repeating the same mistake year after year

2016 - xinquan
2017 - hengyuan
2018 - insas
2019 - jaks
2020 - tunepro

Year after year after year you keep repeating the same mistake even though it doesn't work for you.

So what has happened?

You missed investing in QL, missed investing in topglove, sold gkent at 50+ cents, sold Pchem at 5+, you have made trading away good stocks and holding on to bad stocks your habit.

Then you go around asking me to show you my details and my shareholding position and prove to you this and that and whatever, as if I have anything to prove to you.

Simple, let us let our INVESTMENTS do the talking. Why do you keep talking about GKENT and QL everywhere and Keep reposting things everywhere?

Please do share one investment so far which is giving you joyful meaning returns so far and how much of your portfolio size is in it?

I doubt you can. Maybe it is time to move on with life and improve your investing acumen.

Hopefully old dogs can learn new tricks.
01/07/2020 4:24 PM
Sslee Haha,
TQVM to Philip. Orient still 12% gain and Star 29% gain.
01/07/2020 4:42 PM
RainT @Philip

just a question

what do you think of LHI compare with QL?

Both business not so same but both also is do chicken & other business

in future, LHI have potential to be as good as QL??
01/07/2020 6:37 PM
Philip ( buy what you understand) If I knew the future I would be a gazillionaire. But my investing philosophy is to see what they are doing currently and where the growth triggers are. So far I don't see anything that LHI is doing for them to be as good as QL.

If I was LHI, first I would add more agricultural base. Instead of marine, I would look towards the growing the cow and milk production in Malaysia which is majority imported. This would give me confidence that LHI is diversifying within it's area of competence ( agriculture). Then I want to see them venturing to end user business with frozen food and own brand manufacturing ( family Mart, 7-11, Cold storage). These would be the growth cycle within it's area of competence that I want to see happening that would put it on its way to being a QL or CP or Tyson.

It's like in palm oil plantations. First you want to see them start with their own nursery selling to plantations. Then when they start growing their own plantations you feel more confidence. Then when they start building their own refineries you feel more confidence on their economies of scale. Then when you see them starting to produce their own downstream products and finally exporting own brand products then you know they are growing the right way.

I look at potential growth in terms of capabilities, not just size.

You could be the biggest chicken and egg producer but still not grow.

But if you can add complexity and vertical integration you will realize the growth is exponential.

The simple answer is I don't know about LHI, but they are currently not adding capabilities, only size.
01/07/2020 7:26 PM
jameslimwb_007 @Philip
Had been quietly followed ur page for awhile. Very constructive comments and inputs given by u. I also invested QL for around 6 years. Gain 300% so far ^_^
01/07/2020 8:19 PM
Philip ( buy what you understand) Thanks James, do join the telegram page to have chit chat over investment ideas... A lot of constructive criticism instead of just personal attacks.
02/07/2020 6:17 AM
mf buy
02/07/2020 6:17 AM
jameslimwb_007 @Philip
Personal attacks look fun as well :P. For entertainment no problem ^_^
Telegram page? may I know where is it?
02/07/2020 7:53 AM
Sslee Good morning Philip,
Noun: personal attack (plural personal attacks) an abusive remark on or relating to somebody's person instead of providing evidence when examining another person's claims or comments.

So aren’t below sound like and look like personal attacks?
“I expected better from a UM graduate”
“I'm still waiting here for your amazing imaginary results.”
“Hopefully old dogs can learn new tricks.”

By the way, did Philip tell you the ROE, PE and PEG of CP and Tyson compare to QL?
02/07/2020 9:21 AM
Sslee Good morning James,
Philip telegram information:
https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/pfs/120720.jsp
02/07/2020 9:52 AM
jameslimwb_007 @sslee
Both of u are really hilarious....
02/07/2020 9:56 AM
Sslee Haha,
Hallmark of UM engineering graduate!
02/07/2020 10:06 AM
Rwkl Personal attacks , hurling of insults only on i3
However once on telegram, everyone is civil and exchanging constructive ideas
This UM grads.... what are they smoking.......
02/07/2020 4:40 PM
RainT @Philip

thanks for share insight
02/07/2020 7:05 PM
Philip ( buy what you understand) Isn't this your first words to me when I posted up my article online? When I shared my journey you were so much quicker to judge and comment on my investment of QL, even until today about 2 years on. Funny how 1 year later you are still so quick to comment and promote INSAS 2inari buy 1 INSAS, despite lackluster results.

I'm sure in real life sslee is a fine person. But being a keyboard warrior he loves to just type and comment without checking the veracity of his investment concepts.

So far his concept of cigar butt value investing has been proven deeply... Wrong.

But instead of looking at what went wrong with his investments, he goes over by insulting mine.

Funny how that works.

INSAS 0.65
Ql 9.64
>>>>>>>

“I'm still waiting here for your amazing imaginary results.”
03/07/2020 8:38 AM
Philip ( buy what you understand) FYI,
Just to clear up something as you seem to be insinuating that I am faking my portfolio. Please understand and clear up that if total shareholding is BELOW 5% of total voting shares, there is no requirement or necessity to report to the register of shareholdings. Meaning I can hide behind my Maybank,rhb and public bank nominee cds account.

As for promoting, I am simply writing an article on how to apply margin in buying stocks with GKENT as an example of what I have been doing.



>>>>>>>>>

Then tell me did you promote Gkent since you first bought Gkent?
25-Feb-2019: Buy: GKENT +1,000,000: 1.12
And by the way since you hold millions of Gkent mind pinpoint to me your name in the top 30 shareholders in Gkent financial report?
01/07/2020 9:15 AM
03/07/2020 8:42 AM
Philip ( buy what you understand) All I can say is stubbornness and confidence can be a difficult combination.
But sslee does raise a few good questions which cannot be answered easily and can only be monitored over a period of time on that happens.

>>>>>>>>

Rwkl Personal attacks , hurling of insults only on i3
However once on telegram, everyone is civil and exchanging constructive ideas
This UM grads.... what are they smoking.......
03/07/2020 8:47 AM
dickson2u Ql fair value is below is 7. It has overvalue 38.6%


No doubt that it si a good company.I did bought QL many years back below RM3 but sold it after earn 50% pofits.

When i grew older. m QL is in my list but i ony will bbuy when it below 7. By before September i can be shareholder again.

Buy good stock with reasonable price is important
03/07/2020 11:05 PM
stockraider Should sell b4 too late mah....!!

Switch it to insas or MNRB better value loh...!!

Posted by dickson2u > Jul 3, 2020 11:05 PM | Report Abuse

Ql fair value is below is 7. It has overvalue 38.6%


No doubt that it si a good company.I did bought QL many years back below RM3 but sold it after earn 50% pofits.

When i grew older. m QL is in my list but i ony will bbuy when it below 7. By before September i can be shareholder again.

Buy good stock with reasonable price is important
04/07/2020 10:13 AM
CharlesT I heard got a group of rich sabahan idiots supporting this highly overvalued ql..just like hapseng..
06/07/2020 6:35 AM
CharlesT Hapseng is mainly supported by tan sri alone...lol
06/07/2020 6:36 AM
Philip ( buy what you understand) Yes I heard that MNRB was also supported by a lot of idiots.
07/07/2020 7:13 AM
CharlesT mostly glc....lol
07/07/2020 7:23 AM
CharlesT philip yr nightmare is not yet over lah dont worry
07/07/2020 7:23 AM
Philip ( buy what you understand) Are you still supporting mnrb or already cut loss?
08/07/2020 7:46 AM
CharlesT where got loss to cut..still holding my mnrb tight tight though mostly invested on supermax since few months ago...lol
08/07/2020 8:39 AM
CharlesT can u sleep well recently ah?
08/07/2020 8:39 AM
CharlesT hold 10 years to make rm10m+ sold few months earlier to see opportunity loss rm25m+...how do u feel just wonder....
08/07/2020 8:42 AM
CharlesT topglove now rm20 opportunity loss rm25m....
08/07/2020 8:42 AM
CharlesT buy more gkent or ql?
08/07/2020 8:43 AM
Sslee Haha
Philip recently sold QL, Gkent, Pchem and bought property companies Paramon, UOA dev and qqq3’s Xfactor Kpower and SCIB.
08/07/2020 9:11 AM
Philip ( buy what you understand) I still made more than 30-40% on my other stocks which are still undervalued, including kpower, scib recently, pchem from rm5+ to rm6+,yinson and many more. You are like those who love to swim naked at the beach, not wearing anything and holding on tight tight.

Of course I sleep well at night. My ql from rm8 jump to rm9.7, what is there not to like?

You are like those who are laughing and say opportunity cost etc etc, while the real fact is... You have no idea what the real value of your equities are and if they will stand the test of time.

Let's see if you are smart enough to predict the low z that you can predict the high and sell off your trade at the right time eh kid?

I await with bated breath on your extraordinary ability to buy low and sell high.

>>>>>>
Posted by CharlesT > Jul 8, 2020 8:42 AM | Report Abuse

hold 10 years to make rm10m+ sold few months earlier to see opportunity loss rm25m+...how do u feel just wonder....
08/07/2020 9:36 PM
CharlesT lol...as long as u can sleep well....
09/07/2020 7:09 AM
Sslee Haha CharlesT,
Sure Philip can sleep very well with qqq3 reading him his favorite bed time stories in his telegram group.
09/07/2020 9:58 AM
Philip ( buy what you understand) Haha sslee you finally broke even on your INSAS investments? Very good, now you also can start to get cocky and tell them the results of your 4 year investment in INSAS and how wonderful it was and what your CAGR has been from investing in INSAS...
09/07/2020 10:30 AM
Sslee Haha Philip,
Every dog has his day. CharlesT is now very happy with KoonBee stocks Supermax Koon’s TP of above RM 20 after the announcement of the next 2 quarter results.

As for me I feel my day will come soon.
Thank you for asking.
09/07/2020 11:36 AM
DannyArcher Can someone explain to me why are the directors and related company selling so many of QL's stock?
14/07/2020 12:39 AM
Philip ( buy what you understand) It's for the QL foundation and it's not so many. It's just a tiny portion that is reflected by joint ownership so every director name is written down. This is to seek and provide funding for QL foundation and charity activity every year.
14/07/2020 6:19 PM
Sslee You can check the link below Insider-Directors: date: disposed or acquired: No of shares: price.
https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/annchdr/7084.jsp
14/07/2020 6:45 PM
ahgoo I don't fully understand Malaysian stock investors as to why there appears to be pretty short-term/speculative chit-chats...KLSE is simply too small to day or swing trade reliably. Most of the mega and large caps are either multi-nationals or large local entities - that institutional investors favor (incl. EPF)...so mucking around penny stocks may be fun for gamblers..there is a lack of transparency with many local stocks...As an example, take ANALABS-=7083 (fully controlled by 1 family....CEO/Chairman/Wife/Sons.. you simply cannot invest nor speculate..it has been hovering around RM1 and there simply aren;'t enough buyers and sellers to trade...Yes of course you can be lucky with Covid - hence TopGlove...etc. Even though my biggest position right now is QL, I don't plan to sell anytime soon - it is a consumer staple..that has growth potential - so I just don't spend time fretting about it. I expect QL to do very well over the next 2-3 years and easily a double digit stock.....for what it is worth - my 2 sens
30/07/2020 8:18 PM

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