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KLSE: YINSON (7293)       YINSON HOLDINGS BHD MAIN : Energy
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fortheemprah Guys, as an observer, I can see one party providing questions with numbers being referenced and a whole bunch of other parties calling him a retard without any proper counter-justification.

Perhaps those who do not agree with views can share a proper, legible, counter-view. It's getting worrisome that nobody has step-up to give a straightforward counter-view.
09/06/2021 4:49 PM
moneymakerx @fortheemprah Just sell if no confidence. No need to argue
09/06/2021 4:51 PM
Jimmy Song i think there are justifications made based on the document shared earlier to every query. Please read

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/yinson_reply_i3investors/2021-06-08-story-h1566106787-Yinson_Holding_Berhad_Reponses_to_i3investor_forum_comments.jsp
09/06/2021 5:14 PM
moneymakerx @Jimmy Song Most folks want to be spoon fed.
09/06/2021 5:29 PM
kinuxian @unidentified persons. You were being mentioned in FocusM. :)

https://focusmalaysia.my/markets/yinson-plays-the-distancing-game-dont-compare-us-with-serba-dinamik/
09/06/2021 5:30 PM
fortheemprah Guys, which other company has formally responded to Internet trolls in a particular forum? I believe that's the worrisome bit.

A few points of contention in layman term for a general company.

1. If that's not your debt, don't publish it as your debt. Unless of course, it is your debt.

2. Why is your overall health remains unchanged despite the stellar performance and order book size over many years? Have you been propping up your numbers with borrowed cash, hence the ballooning debt size?

3. If 10 companies in the same business is struggling and you're not, wouldn't that warrant some concern?

Are the above valid questions or only valid for companies that you do not have a stake in?
09/06/2021 6:01 PM
FreshNoob “For simplicity, (Yinson’s) total order book remained at US$9.75 bil (RM40.26 bil) as of March 31, 2021 which is more than sufficient to repay debts (net debt RM4.1 bil), operation cost and pay dividends over time,” asserted Yinson.
09/06/2021 6:34 PM
LongTermInvestor8 @fortheemprah

Nice new account calvin or stockraider. your grammar and format all the same one.

Have you received your love letter from yinson's lawyer?
09/06/2021 7:45 PM
milosh I did just open financial results report, saw a few basic numbers (assets, equity, borrowings ...) and leave it fast without continue reading any more ... disaster in making
09/06/2021 8:12 PM
LongTermInvestor8 @calvintaneng

How old are you?
09/06/2021 8:15 PM
FreshNoob We maintain BUY on Yinson Holdings (Yinson) with an unchanged fair value of RM7.20/share based on an ESG-adjusted sum-of-parts valuation. This reflects a premium of 3% for our ESG rating of 4 stars given that the group is currently the first oil & gas service provider to proactively invest into renewable energy, and implies an FY22F PE of 15x on par with the FBMKLCI.
09/06/2021 9:59 PM
pinnaclegrade https://focusmalaysia.my/markets/yinson-plays-the-distancing-game-dont-compare-us-with-serba-dinamik/
09/06/2021 10:44 PM
Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ To know calvintan, Yinson management has only to look through his unrestrained promotion of Netx for 2 years. Very dishonest fellow.

https://klse.i3investor.com/m/stock/overview/overview/0020.jsp
10/06/2021 8:33 AM
LossAversion Hope someday someone will go after some unscrupulous likes of Calvintan
10/06/2021 8:44 AM
Sslee You will continue to suffer if you have an emotional reaction to everything that is said to you. True power is sitting back and observing things with logic. True power is restraint. If words control you that means everyone else can control you.
10/06/2021 8:52 AM
Upupshare @Sslee well said !
10/06/2021 9:00 AM
stockraider Welcome back This so0hai 3iii runaway for 2 mths....after his Dlady fell alot loh....!!

Bad karma for 3iii for konning people mah!

Do u understand what is high debts risk for Yinson ah ?

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Jun 10, 2021 8:33 AM | Report Abuse

To know calvintan, Yinson management has only to look through his unrestrained promotion of Netx for 2 years. Very dishonest fellow.

https://klse.i3investor.com/m/stock/overview/overview/0020.jsp
10/06/2021 9:02 AM
FreshNoob Hoho. Start to move d
10/06/2021 10:31 AM
stockraider INSAS HATHAWAY AN OPPORTUNITY BUY NOT TO BE MISSED MAH!

PA is just another goreng stock loh...!

PA Rm 0.495 V Insas Rm 0.805

Surely Insas will beat PA flat over the medium term says within a year, just mark my words loh!

Peter Lynch had this very important advice loh....!!

When a stock is cheap, look for the reason,why a stock is cheap?.

If a stock is cheap for a temporary reason, then it becomes value investing.

If a stock is cheap for a permanent reason, then it becomes a value trap.

When you look at the situation if INSAS, you come to the question:

When can I reasonably expect the temporary undervaluation of INSAS to be resolved to it's proper price?

If your answer is I don't know when it will resolve, how it who will resolve it, or why would they?

Then you are better off not owning INSAS.

Why Raider says Insas can beat PA flat within 1 year leh ?
Bcos Insas has shown very consistent earnings support & value mah!

Insas is not a goreng stock like PA mah....thus medium term Insas will surely do better n gain better appreciation than PA mah!

Just look at the amazing growth track record of value creation of insas for the past 10 yrs

Mar 2021 - Nta Rm 2.96

Dec 2020 - Nta Rm 2.83

Dec 2019- Nta Rm 2.68

Dec 2018- Nta Rm 2.54

Dec 2017..Nta rm 2.49

Dec 2016 ...Nta Rm 2.18

Dec 2015..Nta Rm 1.96

Dec 2014..Nta rm 1.82

Dec 2013 nta..rm 1.71

Dec 2012 nta ..rm 1.51

Dec 2011 nta..rm 1.38

Dec 2010 nta...rm 1.22

Dec 2009 nta ..rm 1.14


Insas Amazing Good Earnings Track records above are comparable with Berkshire Hathaway mah!
10/06/2021 12:12 PM
FreshNoob Buy yinson good.
10/06/2021 12:32 PM
Rainbow0721 Posted by Sslee > Jun 10, 2021 8:52 AM | Report Abuse

You will continue to suffer if you have an emotional reaction to everything that is said to you. True power is sitting back and observing things with logic. True power is restraint. If words control you that means everyone else can control you.

@Sslee, thanks so much for this comment! it is so true!
I have written this on a post-it note and pasted on my wall to remind me everyday..hope to be a better person and being less emotional to every single thing that happened around.. be it boss comments, investment decision made, etc..
10/06/2021 12:55 PM
casion911 Serbadk is very cheap nowww. 63 sen. Buy before its too late. Dont be sorry later. Buy buy buy collect and keeepp for bonus laterrr.
10/06/2021 2:36 PM
FreshNoob Dowan. Buy yinson good.
10/06/2021 3:39 PM
stockraider Calvin never hated Philip.

He just want to teach arrogant Philip some lesson for slandering him kaw kaw mah!

Posted by Sslee > Jun 11, 2021 10:38 AM | Report Abuse

Haha calvin only hate is Philip.
11/06/2021 10:47 AM
casion911 Yinson good. But serbadk is cheappp nowww. Good investment come on. Buy buy buy. collect while cannnn
11/06/2021 2:05 PM
FreshNoob Hahaha. Scared to buy serba.. too risky for me
11/06/2021 2:09 PM
HaroldHuong Why YINSON still remain above 5.000?
11/06/2021 2:18 PM
LossAversion @ HaroldHuong - Why not???
11/06/2021 2:19 PM
FreshNoob People buy back after realise just rumours...

Contract with SMRT Singapore where can fake..
11/06/2021 3:17 PM
kl_guy yinson hit bottom already with spoon shape formation. Up trend direction is coming .
11/06/2021 7:46 PM
zestyy90 more solid than serbadk
11/06/2021 10:19 PM
FreshNoob Supersolid.
11/06/2021 10:25 PM
stockraider Yinson What solid leh ?

High Borrowing mah!

Low ROE loh...!

Falling Prospect in terms of rates loh!

High PE mah!

Potential bankruptcy case like SERBA mah!
11/06/2021 11:22 PM
Upupshare https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2021/06/12/yinsons-balance-sheet-remains-sturdy
12/06/2021 10:39 AM
stockraider JUST BE VERY GREEDY MAH!

Upside of insas on the way according to my tukang tilik sifu.

Since Insas is deeply undervalue according to my senior analyst....u should jump in now buying into the mother or the warrant mah...!!

Remember when a stock in the most quiet time, u better becareful loh.....bcos something positive is brewing loh!

Raider know loh....bcos raider 009 team are closely investigating this stock mah...!!

Once breakout....88 sen.....the next stage is 90 sen, Rm 1.00 & then Rm 1.20.......do not missed this opportunity loh!

WHAT RAIDER SAYS IS REALLY PROVEN TRUE MAH...!!

REMEMBER TO INVEST LONG TERM WITH INSAS, THATS IS WAY U MAKE BIG MONEY LOH!
12/06/2021 10:55 AM
wallstreetrookie What? Yinson management reads i3 forum? lol You all are famous I guess
12/06/2021 10:15 PM
wallstreetrookie My theory has already been right. Major shareholders and institutions do read forums while they are trading and even on weekends.

No wonder, a low float stock only tanks when anyone posts a comment. Algos dumping fast. Major shareholders reading forums to gauge retail investor sentiment to collect cheap and sell high.
12/06/2021 10:49 PM
wallstreetrookie I just saw the news during the weekend. A bit late. But wow, a listed company filing a rebuttal against Calvintaneng? That's unheard of.
12/06/2021 10:49 PM
wallstreetrookie I have no vested interest in this company anywhere. Never liked Yinson
12/06/2021 10:51 PM
wallstreetrookie Anyways*
12/06/2021 10:51 PM
GenghisHoe Yinson, could you answer my few questions?

Dear Yinson IR (Insage)/Management and Cheah Chor Sooi,

After reading this article: Don’t compare us with Serba Dinamik, I have two (2) questions...

Read more: https://whyvalueinvesting.blogspot.com/2021/06/yinson-could-you-answer-some-of-my.html
12/06/2021 11:14 PM
wallstreetrookie If you are an individual investor/or even hedge fund/private investment/advisor, you seriously don't need to tell people about your investigations regarding accounting scandals. I personally would not tell the public if I find any discrepancies or inconsistencies in a company's financial statement, whether it is inflated earnings or not. I would sell quietly.

Posting your research online to expose an accounting scandal only serves one purpose. That is when you want to make a profit from short-selling Yinson. Btw it is not worth it to short a stock on Bursa due to the pathetic volume and rigged by local institutions apart from the lack of participation from individual and hedge funds. The above just shows that Calvin is inexperienced, dumb money and attention-seeker.
12/06/2021 11:22 PM
stockraider U see b4 Enron, Transmile and Hyflux issue had not blown out ,everybody agree will still agree the major shareholders and Ceo are capable & great like genius mah!

That is the problem, when the share price keep going up, everybody will ignore the inherent weaknesses & keep discounting the high debt & the operational risk as nothing mah!

Thus people should recognise the early warning sign of exceptional high debts as one of the potential disaster plus the relentless expansion of the company using debts, with no regards to the risk of weakened balance sheet bcos of the very high debts.

Therefore people should also always be very careful on similar company like Yinson as highlighted by sifu calvin on the potential risk, generally the the public will always feel willy nilly & complacent, when share price holdings up & when the business is showing growth loh..!

Remember to ask like warren buffet "what is the quality of earnings loh?"
Pls Quietly leave party early the party, when everybody are very excited mah!

Posted by Sslee > Jun 13, 2021 11:09 AM | Report Abuse

wkc5657 Philip, after spending a few hours last weekend on the rough overview of scib, kpower, and serba dinamik, i gained some sense of your bullishness towards them. Your view is proven very right by your return on all these 3 counters, especially scib and kpower.

Just some rough thoughts, i didn't go deep detail and industry understanding to your level :
1) Karim is genuinely one of the rare role models of bumiputra business leader, more like syed mokhtar + ytl + ananda krishnan combined, with a hint of steroids. Really respect his ability in undertaking such complex operations and business deals and continue to grow serba's revenue and maintaining the margins. I read your article on your reasonings in investing into serba/scib/kpower 3 times over the period of 2 months, truly like you say, if Karim is non bumi (and maybe a less BM company name like Omni Dynamics?), there is less racial bias discount and probably a premium for company leader like this. I don't even think Tim Cook of apple can handle a company like serba dinamik.
2) judging by the turnaround of scib and kpower, the ability/connection of Karim and gang to win+inject contracts is bearing fruit. His management experience in serba dinamik really put into overdrive for the turnaround of 2 counters, a good showcase of Karim's deep abilities/connections.
3) 1 real surprise is their vendor acquisition transparency. For most big listed companies, to be their vendor, either they come to you, you have to market very hard to give your proposal, or you have connections. However for serba/scib/kpower, as long as you have the valid documentations, you can register through their website. A very good example for many companies actually.
4) i think serba dinamik have a 50% chance of requiring another private placement if the knock on effects of the current abu dhabi deals bring in more future contracts in the middle east.
13/06/2021 11:39 AM
stockraider The auditors at kpower,scib & yinson are shivering now loh!


Posted by King18Wn > Jun 13, 2021 12:22 PM | Report Abuse

Kpower auditor will look in depth on the issue raised by KPMG at SD.........
13/06/2021 12:37 PM
runroadtokl nanyang also got news come out for yinson..
13/06/2021 2:28 PM
Jessie 明天limit down了。 cash flow还差过Serbadk, 会不会有假账?
13/06/2021 7:24 PM
FreshNoob Yinson good management .. Good corporate governance.. give assurance to shareholders..

Work with Singapore smrt confirm legit..
Order book solid.. debt is normal for this kinda company.. no panic :)

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2021/06/12/yinsons-balance-sheet-remains-sturdy
13/06/2021 11:36 PM
FreshNoob @wallstreetcookie.
Thanks for your unbiased opinion. That is so true ! :)

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Posting your research online to expose an accounting scandal only serves one purpose. That is when you want to make a profit from short-selling Yinson. Btw it is not worth it to short a stock on Bursa due to the pathetic volume and rigged by local institutions apart from the lack of participation from individual and hedge funds. The above just shows that Calvin is inexperienced, dumb money and attention-seeker.
13/06/2021 11:40 PM
Mabel What else can they do..?

With MCO, they will read everything in i3..

Meow
14/06/2021 6:54 AM
casion911 Serba dinamik gonna fly now. Collect it fast while it still affordable. Dont miss the train guy. 70 sen alreadyyyy

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/ongmy/2021-06-14-story-h1566198020-Sekarang_masa_terbaik_beli_saham_Serba_Dinamik.jsp
14/06/2021 3:21 PM


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