My Trading Adventure

Long vs Short

CP TEH
Publish date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011, 08:07 AM
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All the writings in this weblog are mainly for PLEASURE reading purposes. I am in NO position to recommend a call(BUY/SELL). Please check with those know-hows before you make a decision. Yes, I am just a learner, with only five years experiences in KLSE. So, please BEAR with me.
DOW down 300 points and at a point went below 350 points.

9.50 am : Just came back from breakfast ... and after thinking over it, I decided not to write anything further about FA or TA. Yes, I should let it rest ... RIP.

Short-selling : A new experienced student of mine told me that some counters could be 'short'. Shorting means the opposite of what we normally do in KLSE. It means we sell first, buy back later. As far as I know, we could not do that. But, yes ... a friend of mine working in bank(and was a trader last time) told me about short-selling too. So, I have heard about it but do not find out more about it.

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/website/bm/market_information/RSS/downloads/RSS_approved_securities.pdf

Thanks YWC for the info.

Perhaps I will prefer to take about 'long' vs 'short' which will benefit many newbies in market!!

Effective from 1st AUGUST 2011, we could short 100 stocks

1 5185 AFFIN HOLDINGS BERHAD
2 5099 AIRASIA BERHAD
3 5115 ALAM MARITIM RESOURCES BERHAD
4 2488 ALLIANCE FINANCIAL GROUP BERHAD
5 1015 AMMB HOLDINGS BERHAD
6 6888 AXIATA GROUP BERHAD
7 3395 BERJAYA CORPORATION BERHAD
8 1562 BERJAYA SPORTS TOTO BERHAD
9 5258 BIMB HOLDINGS BERHAD
10 2771 BOUSTEAD HOLDINGS BERHAD
11 1818 BURSA MALAYSIA BERHAD
12 1023 CIMB GROUP HOLDINGS BERHAD
13 5071 COASTAL CONTRACTS BHD
14 5141 DAYANG ENTERPRISE HOLDINGS BERHAD
15 7277 DIALOG GROUP BERHAD
16 1619 DRB-HICOM BERHAD
17 3417 EASTERN & ORIENTAL BERHAD
18 2143 ECM LIBRA FINANCIAL GROUP BERHAD
19 8877 EKOVEST BERHAD
20 5101 EVERGREEN FIBREBOARD BERHAD
21 1368 FABER GROUP BERHAD
22 5398 GAMUDA BERHAD
23 3182 GENTING BERHAD
24 4715 GENTING MALAYSIA BERHAD
25 2291 GENTING PLANTATIONS BERHAD
26 5102 GUAN CHONG BERHAD
27 1503 GUOCOLAND (MALAYSIA) BERHAD
28 5138 HAP SENG PLANTATIONS HOLDINGS BERHAD
29 6238 HOCK SENG LEE BERHAD
30 5819 HONG LEONG BANK BERHAD
31 1597 IGB CORPORATION BERHAD
32 3336 IJM CORPORATION BERHAD
33 5215 IJM LAND BERHAD
34 1961 IOI CORPORATION BERHAD
35 5161 JCY INTERNATIONAL BERHAD
36 5122 KENCANA PETROLEUM BERHAD
37 3492 KFC HOLDINGS (MALAYSIA) BERHAD
38 3522 KIAN JOO CAN FACTORY BERHAD
39 5060 KINSTEEL BHD
40 9466 KKB ENGINEERING BERHAD
41 5089 KLCC PROPERTY HOLDINGS BERHAD
42 5878 KPJ HEALTHCARE BERHAD
43 2445 KUALA LUMPUR KEPONG BERHAD
44 5097 KURNIA ASIA BERHAD
45 3794 LAFARGE MALAYAN CEMENT BHD
46 1643 LANDMARKS BERHAD
47 7064 LATEXX PARTNERS BERHAD
48 2011 LINGUI DEVELOPMENTS BERHAD
49 4235 LION INDUSTRIES CORPORATION BERHAD
50 8583 MAH SING GROUP BERHAD
51 1155 MALAYAN BANKING BERHAD
52 5014 MALAYSIA AIRPORTS HOLDINGS BERHAD
53 1171 MALAYSIA BUILDING SOCIETY BERHAD
54 3786 MALAYSIAN AIRLINE SYSTEM BERHAD
55 1651 MALAYSIAN RESOURCES CORPORATION BERHAD
56 5166 MASTERSKILL EDUCATION GROUP BERHAD
57 6012 MAXIS BERHAD
58 5090 MEDIA CHINESE INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
59 4502 MEDIA PRIMA BERHAD
60 3816 MISC BERHAD
61 2194 MMC CORPORATION BERHAD
62 5085 MUDAJAYA GROUP BERHAD
63 5703 MUHIBBAH ENGINEERING (M) BHD
64 3905 MULPHA INTERNATIONAL BERHAD
65 3859 MULTI-PURPOSE HOLDINGS BERHAD
66 5053 OSK HOLDINGS BERHAD
67 5657 PARKSON HOLDINGS BERHAD
68 6033 PETRONAS GAS BERHAD
69 4634 POS MALAYSIA BERHAD
70 4065 PPB GROUP BERHAD
71 8869 PRESS METAL BERHAD
72 1295 PUBLIC BANK BERHAD (inc. Public Bank ' F)
73 7084 QL RESOURCES BERHAD
74 9415 QSR BRANDS BHD
75 1066 RHB CAPITAL BERHAD
76 8664 S P SETIA BERHAD
77 8575 SAPURACREST PETROLEUM BERHAD
78 9792 SEG INTERNATIONAL BHD
79 4197 SIME DARBY BERHAD
80 4308 SUNWAY HOLDINGS BERHAD
81 7106 SUPERMAX CORPORATION BERHAD
82 4898 TA ENTERPRISE BERHAD
83 5158 TA GLOBAL BERHAD
84 1589 TEBRAU TEGUH BERHAD
85 4863 TELEKOM MALAYSIA BERHAD
86 5347 TENAGA NASIONAL BHD
87 5112 TH PLANTATIONS BERHAD
88 5031 TIME DOTCOM BERHAD
89 7113 TOP GLOVE CORPORATION BHD
90 4804 TRADEWINDS CORPORATION BERHAD
91 5148 UEM LAND HOLDINGS BERHAD
92 4588 UMW HOLDINGS BERHAD
93 5005 UNISEM (M) BERHAD
94 5142 WAH SEONG CORPORATION BERHAD
95 9679 WCT BERHAD
96 4243 WTK HOLDINGS BERHAD
97 4677 YTL CORPORATION BERHAD
98 0009 YTL E-SOLUTIONS BERHAD
99 2577 YTL LAND & DEVELOPMENT BERHAD
100 6742 YTL POWER INTERNATIONAL BHD

Example : YTLLand


At 2nd of AUG, YTLLand was traded at 1.55 level. Since the market is moving lower and we THINK that YTLLand stock price will go lower, we will like to SELL YTLLand at 1.55. Yes, we are selling a stock we do not own!! IF the stock YTLLand move-up, we will need to buy-back at higher price to CUT our losses!! Yes, it the OPPOSITE of what we used to do - buy first, sell later. But, as we are shorting the stock, we do expect the stock to go lower ... and well, say YTLLand strong support at 1.20, we might want to BUY back at 1.20 and gain the profits of 35 cents.

Since then, it broken its support at 1.20 level, we might want to SELL it again at 1.18 or so, and waiting for it to dive ... and take profits at RM1 level, its next support level. At RM1, we buy-back the no of stocks we sold earlier at RM1.18? That is 18cents profits!!

Do you get it, newbies? Yes, majority of us know what short-selling is but it might be too confusing for newbies. Hence, on MONDAY ... I will short-selling some stocks!!

This becoming very interesting as my readers will start to read buy-sell(long) or sell-buy(short). At the moment, in Malaysia, we could only do such in FCPO and FKLI. These are palm oil and KLCI-future indices. Another choice is to buy put-warrants but due to VERY low liquidity, no one actually look into put-warrants listed in KLSE. Those put-warrants code is XXX-ha. Call-warrants and Put-warrants are very popularly punted in HKSE. Those in US markets, it is called option-trading. I m such a novice that I got badly burnt in trying out call-put warrants in HKSE. Ouch.

Yup, if I never try ... I will never have the experience to share here, right? If I keep sticking to only one instrument, one method, one market or for some one stock only, I could never progress, right?

It is a matter of time I will explore in forex and such. I am too new in financial-markets to understand what these instruments are and how they works. I am still in equity-markets!!

Anyway, short-ing in markets making KLSE more exciting as you could see people like me going opposite directions!! Yeah ... when market crashing, I could profit too!! That is the best part.

My turtles : Keep the 100 stocks in your list and I will slowly show all how to short these stocks when market crashing, ok? Let me try it out first next week!! Wish me luck. Haha.

Public-talk : Next week onwards I will be so busy as final exams nearing. As I will trying out the short-selling next week, I will like to share with many how these things work!! So, I will try to find next Sat night or whenever I could find a night for a talk - yes, my talk is cheap! Talk is cheap but not free. Haha

TEH
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still valid?

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