My Trading Adventure

Can investing and trading be taught?

CP TEH
Publish date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011, 08:36 AM
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All the writings in this weblog are mainly for PLEASURE reading purposes. I am in NO position to recommend a call(BUY/SELL). Please check with those know-hows before you make a decision. Yes, I am just a learner, with only five years experiences in KLSE. So, please BEAR with me.
Today is THU ... an extreme busy day for me with 5 hours of classes, then tuition and some paper-work to rush out. So, I m cleared of my harimau-bank and wont do any trading for weeks to come!! Unless clear opportunities(currently in HKSE), nothing to do ... I want to clear my back-log of paperworks, e-mail to reply, re-reading some of my previous posts related HKSE ... and yes, I m also busy shopping(Jusco's member yesterday ... crazy buying!!) as I have to start getting things ready for my new place next month!! Too busy too with classes still on ... and my trading class too.

Cohort-3 : Tentatively, I m planning on 8th of Oct, Saturday around 2pm to 4.30pm. It will be continous for 5 Saturdays!! At the moment, there are 6 enquiries. So, I shall wait for more enquiries to come and confirmation!! Yes, I hope this is the 'last' cohort for the year. I want to focus in my turtle-meetings and such.

For a laugh about facebook, I was reading my Dec 2009 post about ZhongWang and re-discovered this piece of classic. Haha. He speaks my mind many of times.

facebook : We are also creating a facebook-page.

http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/2009/12/facebook-makes-me-mad-sometimes.html

Sal.Dali wrote a very good post that day about investing!!

http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-investing-is-so-difficult.html

And yes, I will re-wind these concepts and use them in my tmr's talk ... when I need to speak about Fear and Greed. Otherwise, how do you explain what MAJORITY is trying to do in stock-markets? It doesnt make sense .. it could be in Malaysia, Hong Kong or any part of the world. Hence, we need to analyse the behaviour of people ... herd mentality and such. Will speak about it tmr.

I will write about my opinions on investing-trading ... can we really teach someone these 'subjects' as they are subjective?

Group : Yes, I am forming a group - for learning, support and sharing purposes. The purposes are to learn from each other experiences, providing each other the supports needed and to share resources(knowledge and everything). This is my main idea when I started a trading-class. It is not really a stock-pick group which many mis-understood and some requested to join our turtle-meetings. It is a closed meeting, only meant for those under me for at least 3 months plus or so ... and where we could speak the similar language. You see, I want to save my energy, debating or arguing with some outsiders about opinions. We can discuss opinions in this blog but not my short period when I m teaching my turtles to analyse.

Another constrain is SPACE. My small room could only cater for 6-8 persons, at most. If the group is too large, I cant cater for the space and it wont be effective either. Effectiveness to LEARN is the priority. Due to such, I could not accomodate some of the requests. I am sorry, again.

SPSetia : Bye-bye to this good stock. Missed her. Bye-bye to my SPSetia-wb.

PChem : Above 5.50 now ... some local funds are buying. BUY BUY BUY ..

Coward-stalker : Haha ... at least you still come in daily and also recognise that I am good. Haha ... err ... they are turtles not tortoise la. Mind your vocab. By the way, I am starting to suspect that you ARE JL. Welcome to my blog.

10.50 am : I posted your second comment, CS. You see, when u speak with logic to debate(not with bad word, cursing and name-calling) it makes a little sense to me. Speaking to a inferior-complexity type of human like you will drain me ... so, I will still ignore you. Yes ... I am NOT open, not to a person like you. Haha.

HKSE is closed this morning due to typhoon.

11.05 am : An hour 'free' to jot down what in mind.

SHAMPOO Marketing



http://shanghaiist.com/2010/08/11/jackie_chan_finally_comments_on_baw.php

Bawang : It is not onion. It is a brand of shampoo - listed in HKSE(last year or so) and Jackie Chan is being used to promote their brand of shampoo. I do see 'Bawang' selling in some yok-choi-po(tabib china). The stock, 1338.hk dived from HKD6(peak) to current HKD 0.68. Yes, a penny-stock now.

I was smiling when I thought of a marketing strategies. You see, I m in education line for too long and I dont know how to do marketing!! Yes, it is the MARKETING that sells products(good or bad).

Lets say company A is a leader, selling shampoo of XXX. It is selling well as they are one of the first to come out with such product. Fine. We started to hear our friends telling us about this shampoo, to replace the bar-soap we have been using to wash our hair.

We used the XXX shampoo and found it very cool. WOW ... I am using SHAMPOO. Haha .. it is new in market and then, the company A advertise their XXX shampoo in media (TV, Radio and Papers). Sales were very good as there is not competators. Fine.

Then, company B set up to take advantage of the new hype. Hey, ours will be shampoo with some fragrant smell. COOL. Hence, it was hitting the market in smaller scale(we call it YYY) as no supermarkets will take in the YYY due to some obligations to company A's XXX.Well, YYY is making waves into sundry-shops, MLM and such ... selling like 'hot-cake' as trial package given free!! Hey, now I am washing my hair with SHAMPOO plus LEMON smell. This is cool ... and word spreads ... more and more going for YYY. Those who still using soap-bar are quick to change to YYY shampoo now.

Seeing such, a company C who was selling the soap-bar felt threaten. So ... we need to ditch the soap-bar soon ... let us brain-storming ... arrghhh ... SHAMPOO + SMELL + ??? = ZZZ. Bravo... eureka!! We tell them that they have dandruff, making them believe they do have dandruff!! So, we will have anti-dandruff ingredients in it!! Heck ... public will buy into our story ... we are getting back our market-portion.

With a better establishment and better position in marketing, company C easily promote their ZZZ shampoo. By now, company A's XXX new-hype ride is over ... they created SHAMPOO, yet they are losing the market share. They need to re-act to company B's YYY and now ... ZZZ is hitting the market. What should company A do? Ok ok ... add in anti-hair-dropping ingredient ... give it a better brand name ... say "XYZ+3-in-1". Yes ... that is a cool name!! We innovate and coming out with the word 3-in-1. 3 =  fragrance, anti-dandruff and anti-hair-fall. Then, get a nice model for advertisements. Make the impact with some gimmicks and in-thing. This time public will 'trick' to buy our product ... XYZ shampoo.

So, we have company A, B and C competiting with each other .. company D, E and F joining to have the pie ... consumers are confused. By now, we have 7-in-1(plus anti-aging ... for hair?).

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The above was in my mind when I was teaching this mornig. LOL ... I was smiling as my creative brain working this morning. Back to my trading-classes. There is no way I am going to beat the what the market(training courses and such) having at the moment. So, being the company G ... a new company setting up, I could not sell SHAMPOO with more ingredients, can I? The public is confused now. One company selling trading-system and claiming theirs the best(of coz). Another 'guru' have been coaching trading for years and know in-out of markets ... doing well too but not as good as another new competitors selling new-latest-sophisticated-complex system that could beat any trading system. It is a MUST HAVE for all "GOOD" traders. Complementary to that, they will have training-course on how to use the software. A few more training-courses promoting their softwares and they came from neighbouring countries. Hence, we have whole lot of traders/speculators/investors in amrkets .... losing money, yet wondering which one to join? Should I pay more money to learn and HOPEFULLY re-gain back my capitals? More confusing questions than answers to their plight ...

One day someone closed to me gave me a suggestion ... TEH, why not you share with them(new novices and others) some concepts about investing or trading? That was like ... last year. I thought he was joking. WHAT? I am sharing views in daily basis here, man. And it is FREE. It is my interest to blog. Haha.

Trading-class for novice? No way ... I paused. Those reading my posts in NOv/Dec, I supposed to start a trading class for my readers then!! I quit even before I started!! Hmm ...

3.05 pm : KLCI up more than 10 points.  Tenaga and SIME up. MayBank, AMMB and CIMB not so ok ...

PChem : Bought her today ... wait.

MudaJaya : Welcome back ... long time no see.


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