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Do those core principles in fundamental value investing work in Bursa? Kcchongnz

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Publish date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015, 09:39 PM
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The secret to successful investing is to figure out the value of something and then-pay a lot less”         Joel Greenblatt

I have just posted an article discussing on the core principles and methodologies of investing of the true super investors in the United States in the link below.

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/88007.jsp

These core principles and methodologies are summarised as below:

  1. Investing in a stock should be viewed as investing in a part business.
  2. Focus on return on capitals
  3. Have estimates of the value of a company using a variety of methods and compare with its price
  4. Buy at a wide margin of safety
  5. Cash flows, and especially free cash flows is king
  6. Buy good companies with high return on invested capital at cheap price as measured by high earnings yield (Ebit/Enterprise value) of the Magic Formula.
  7. Focus on the downside and let the upside takes care of itself. Invert, always invert.
  8. Be a second-level thinker. If something is easy to compute and understand, it is extremely unlikely that the market will misinterpret it. Therefore, such information will not, by itself, provide evidence of mispricing.
  9. Avoid leverage investing using margin finance like a plague as the market is highly unpredictable.

How else should investing be like if not following the above principles with logics and common sense?

We know these principles expounded by those super investors work for the long term as they are all multi-billionaires and well known figures in the investing community.

But do these principles work in Bursa?

I have received comments numerous times that fundamental investing does not work in Bursa because our companies won’t survive for long term, that we do not have companies such as Coca Cola or whatnot.

But fundamental investing is not about holding a particular stock long term, but investing following the core principles expounded by the well-known super investors in the world as discussed above.

 

I have shown that fundamental investing following the above principles and methodologies do work for me the mid-term,

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/86153.jsp

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/84923.jsp

These core principles also worked in the short term, and in a down market

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/86047.jsp

These are established and published records in i3investor.

What other experience I have to show that these principles and methodologies in fundamental investing work also in Bursa? For this, I will show you how some of my course participants have utilize these principles and methodologies in their stock selection and if they work.

 

Stocks selected by course participants

Appended Table 1 below is a list of stocks selected and shared by a few of my course participants for the past one year which were published in our private blog. They were selected following the principles taught throughout the course and come with detail analysis and reports. Most of them follow the principle of buying good companies at cheap or reasonable prices. Some are ordinary companies but sold at very cheap price such as KESM and Weida. A couple were turnaround stocks such as LCTH and Thong Guan. There are also growth stocks such as SAM and Fronkten. As you can see there is a variety of investing strategies used by them.

Table 1: Stocks selected by course participants and their returns

Below are the salient features of the returns of the stocks:

  1. The seven stocks shared return an average of 33.5% within an average of six months’ period, compared to the loss of the broad market of 8.6% during the same period.
  2. The excess return, or alpha is a commendable 42.1%.
  3. The median return is even higher at 42.1%.
  4. There is only one loser and under-performer (14%), APM at a loss of 11%. The negative alpha is minimal at just 2.4%.
  5. The risks of those stocks selected were generally low as most of them are with steady earnings and cash flows and healthy balance sheets.

“Heads I win (big); Tails I don’t lose much” The Dhandho Principle

One participant also compiled a list of Magic Formula stocks and assessed the portfolio return from 25th June 2014 to 24th June 2015 as shown in the Appendix. The return of the portfolio was 21.7%, while the broad market declined 8.4% during the same period. This means the positive alpha is a respectable 30%.

Many course participants actively continue to share their analysis and thoughts on investing, in overseas markets and at home, personal finance etc. in our Facebook group of alumni.

 

Conclusions

Despite what others say, the core principles of fundamental value investing do work in Bursa. It works for the long-term, the mid-term, and also the short term, and it works very well on its own. The short-term excellent performance is a little surprise to me as fundamental value investing is more of a safe investing strategy, and users do not expect short-term fantastic outperformance of less than one year as it has done.

More importantly, utilizing the core principles of fundamental value investing will avoid losing big in the stock market until “want to cry also no tears” 欲哭無淚

And don’t forget, “In Bursa, there ain’t no tooth fairy”. The only person you can depend on is none other than yourself.

For those who are keen to learn the core principles and methodologies in fundamental value investing to build long-term wealth and more importantly, able to sleep well, please contact me for an online course with a relative small fee at

Ckc14training2@gmail.com

 

Perhaps after the course, I can get some good tips from you to invest, like what I got from my other course participants. I have done pretty well in investing following my course participants.

 

K C Chong

 

Appendix

Discussions
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PlsGiveBonus

It will work on some counter if the political risk didn't existed
In the real wordl issues there is far more risk than a merely number on the paper
Global warming risk, licensing risk, face problem risk just to name a few.

2015-12-17 21:50

Icon8888

Ha, PlsGiveBonus the overzealous "borrow to squeeze out more profit" conspiracy theory guy, I remember you...

2015-12-17 22:11

PlsGiveBonus

Icon8888:
I didn't study very closely into Jaycorp yet so my last comment is based on YoY comparison, however the long term view on the company didn't impress me, so I am looking for some special views from different people,
back to the topic, some speculation will add more advantage when it is combined with some core principal, however not everyone will follow the rules, because people make the new rule every time from time, there is more creative accounting no matter how you gonna do about it

2015-12-17 22:26

Icon8888

Still, you r overzealous...

2015-12-17 22:28

PlsGiveBonus

Icon8888:
I think you didn't mean it, I believe it is fair and considerable, and you can't explain which part of the comments is the "overzealous" intended, well, may be it is a good time to have a different view.

2015-12-17 22:35

Tkoklin

Ignore the oldman. He got wind in his head.

2015-12-17 23:55

vinext

who can pls tell me joel's comment on Ebit/Enterprise value? how many % he seek? in fact FCf/ enterprise value is better

2015-12-18 08:45

3iii

Very impressed by this article. Highly commendable.

2015-12-18 09:27

Tan KW

@kcchongnz

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/stock_pick_2016/88293.jsp

Please join... you are one of the most wanted guru....

2015-12-18 12:07

alpha investor

Would love to see Kcchong in the competition....

2015-12-18 12:26

kcchongnz

Tan KW, thanks but no thanks.

Value investing can be a painful process. This is what one of the super investors I have followed closely said

"I just want to take advantage of prices away from value.. If you do good valuation work and you are right, Mr. Market will pay you back. In the short term, one to two years, the market is inefficient. But in the long-term, the market has to get it right—it will pay you back in two to three years. Keep that in mind when you do your analysis. You don’t have to look at the next quarter, the next six months, if you do good valuation work—.. Mr. Market will pay you.” Joel Greenblatt

For the one-year competition, it is suitable for traders, technical analysis, risk taking. Buy high beta stocks, micro and small cap stocks, high leverage companies and instruments, companies which one can get insider news etc.

Good luck to everyone participating.

2015-12-18 14:03

Tkoklin

Ya, KCChongnz cant perform as good as OTB, as he focus value stocks instead of growth stock.

2015-12-18 14:12

Tan KW

@kc, we shouldn't focus too much on result

do what you good at.... this should serve as a platform to share and exchange the stock pick idea...

and, ignore the noise...

2015-12-18 18:47

Tan KW

and, you and otb is the senior members who start this game.... pls come back and have fun....

2015-12-18 18:49

Probability

KC...you had proven yourself a 'diamond'..you are in a different league..even if you drop in a mud...you status will never change.


But as Tan KW correctly said...the results does not matter... even 6% return is already respectable..,but its truly nice to have you....

This will trigger everyone to do their best in stock selection for the competition...and all the i3 members will greatly benefit.

2015-12-18 18:57

inwest88

KC, I reckon I understand your reason for not joining the contest:). Hope to see you in the coming CNY !

2015-12-20 17:01

kcchongnz

inwest88, you understand me well.

To have a friend and be a friend Is what makes life worthwhile.

See you before CNY.

2015-12-20 17:11

inwest88

KC - "To have a friend and be a friend is what makes life worthwhile". You couldn't have describe it better. See you soon !

2015-12-20 17:16

inwest88

KC - and by the way best wishes to you and your loved ones a blessed Christmas and a Happy New Year

2015-12-20 17:18

Desa20201956

I prefer the 3 M for sustainable investing....good business model, good management and good money figures .
Not many, quite rare actually, but if anyone can find one, please let me know below.

2015-12-20 17:48

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