“The secret to successful investing is to figure out the value of something and then-pay a lot less” Joel Greenblatt
I have just posted an article discussing on the core principles and methodologies of investing of the true super investors in the United States in the link below.
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/88007.jsp
These core principles and methodologies are summarised as below:
How else should investing be like if not following the above principles with logics and common sense?
We know these principles expounded by those super investors work for the long term as they are all multi-billionaires and well known figures in the investing community.
But do these principles work in Bursa?
I have received comments numerous times that fundamental investing does not work in Bursa because our companies won’t survive for long term, that we do not have companies such as Coca Cola or whatnot.
But fundamental investing is not about holding a particular stock long term, but investing following the core principles expounded by the well-known super investors in the world as discussed above.
I have shown that fundamental investing following the above principles and methodologies do work for me the mid-term,
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/86153.jsp
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/84923.jsp
These core principles also worked in the short term, and in a down market
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/86047.jsp
These are established and published records in i3investor.
What other experience I have to show that these principles and methodologies in fundamental investing work also in Bursa? For this, I will show you how some of my course participants have utilize these principles and methodologies in their stock selection and if they work.
Stocks selected by course participants
Appended Table 1 below is a list of stocks selected and shared by a few of my course participants for the past one year which were published in our private blog. They were selected following the principles taught throughout the course and come with detail analysis and reports. Most of them follow the principle of buying good companies at cheap or reasonable prices. Some are ordinary companies but sold at very cheap price such as KESM and Weida. A couple were turnaround stocks such as LCTH and Thong Guan. There are also growth stocks such as SAM and Fronkten. As you can see there is a variety of investing strategies used by them.
Table 1: Stocks selected by course participants and their returns
Below are the salient features of the returns of the stocks:
“Heads I win (big); Tails I don’t lose much” The Dhandho Principle
One participant also compiled a list of Magic Formula stocks and assessed the portfolio return from 25th June 2014 to 24th June 2015 as shown in the Appendix. The return of the portfolio was 21.7%, while the broad market declined 8.4% during the same period. This means the positive alpha is a respectable 30%.
Many course participants actively continue to share their analysis and thoughts on investing, in overseas markets and at home, personal finance etc. in our Facebook group of alumni.
Conclusions
Despite what others say, the core principles of fundamental value investing do work in Bursa. It works for the long-term, the mid-term, and also the short term, and it works very well on its own. The short-term excellent performance is a little surprise to me as fundamental value investing is more of a safe investing strategy, and users do not expect short-term fantastic outperformance of less than one year as it has done.
More importantly, utilizing the core principles of fundamental value investing will avoid losing big in the stock market until “want to cry also no tears” 欲哭無淚
And don’t forget, “In Bursa, there ain’t no tooth fairy”. The only person you can depend on is none other than yourself.
For those who are keen to learn the core principles and methodologies in fundamental value investing to build long-term wealth and more importantly, able to sleep well, please contact me for an online course with a relative small fee at
Perhaps after the course, I can get some good tips from you to invest, like what I got from my other course participants. I have done pretty well in investing following my course participants.
K C Chong
Appendix
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Ha, PlsGiveBonus the overzealous "borrow to squeeze out more profit" conspiracy theory guy, I remember you...
2015-12-17 22:11
Icon8888:
I didn't study very closely into Jaycorp yet so my last comment is based on YoY comparison, however the long term view on the company didn't impress me, so I am looking for some special views from different people,
back to the topic, some speculation will add more advantage when it is combined with some core principal, however not everyone will follow the rules, because people make the new rule every time from time, there is more creative accounting no matter how you gonna do about it
2015-12-17 22:26
Icon8888:
I think you didn't mean it, I believe it is fair and considerable, and you can't explain which part of the comments is the "overzealous" intended, well, may be it is a good time to have a different view.
2015-12-17 22:35
who can pls tell me joel's comment on Ebit/Enterprise value? how many % he seek? in fact FCf/ enterprise value is better
2015-12-18 08:45
@kcchongnz
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/stock_pick_2016/88293.jsp
Please join... you are one of the most wanted guru....
2015-12-18 12:07
Tan KW, thanks but no thanks.
Value investing can be a painful process. This is what one of the super investors I have followed closely said
"I just want to take advantage of prices away from value.. If you do good valuation work and you are right, Mr. Market will pay you back. In the short term, one to two years, the market is inefficient. But in the long-term, the market has to get it right—it will pay you back in two to three years. Keep that in mind when you do your analysis. You don’t have to look at the next quarter, the next six months, if you do good valuation work—.. Mr. Market will pay you.” Joel Greenblatt
For the one-year competition, it is suitable for traders, technical analysis, risk taking. Buy high beta stocks, micro and small cap stocks, high leverage companies and instruments, companies which one can get insider news etc.
Good luck to everyone participating.
2015-12-18 14:03
Ya, KCChongnz cant perform as good as OTB, as he focus value stocks instead of growth stock.
2015-12-18 14:12
@kc, we shouldn't focus too much on result
do what you good at.... this should serve as a platform to share and exchange the stock pick idea...
and, ignore the noise...
2015-12-18 18:47
and, you and otb is the senior members who start this game.... pls come back and have fun....
2015-12-18 18:49
KC...you had proven yourself a 'diamond'..you are in a different league..even if you drop in a mud...you status will never change.
But as Tan KW correctly said...the results does not matter... even 6% return is already respectable..,but its truly nice to have you....
This will trigger everyone to do their best in stock selection for the competition...and all the i3 members will greatly benefit.
2015-12-18 18:57
KC, I reckon I understand your reason for not joining the contest:). Hope to see you in the coming CNY !
2015-12-20 17:01
inwest88, you understand me well.
To have a friend and be a friend Is what makes life worthwhile.
See you before CNY.
2015-12-20 17:11
KC - "To have a friend and be a friend is what makes life worthwhile". You couldn't have describe it better. See you soon !
2015-12-20 17:16
KC - and by the way best wishes to you and your loved ones a blessed Christmas and a Happy New Year
2015-12-20 17:18
I prefer the 3 M for sustainable investing....good business model, good management and good money figures .
Not many, quite rare actually, but if anyone can find one, please let me know below.
2015-12-20 17:48
PlsGiveBonus
It will work on some counter if the political risk didn't existed
In the real wordl issues there is far more risk than a merely number on the paper
Global warming risk, licensing risk, face problem risk just to name a few.
2015-12-17 21:50