Mother up 3c, Son up 1c,
Mother down 25c, Son drop 2c - hopeless la buying son

Hahahahahahaha...at least king of stock still gets to predict up for some days, else it will be like Raja Bomoh already....or could he be?

hi trioloo86, can you please advise whereabouts for Sona's tap on high quality petroleum oil?

tankahban, what you doing here?

I believe if you want to say whoever who believe Lamken, you're probably screwed up..I will think the same for people who believe the analysts, they are perhaps the one always with the 'moving objectives'..and talking about understanding the industry, I don't think they really do though..

ymj, petracot, teobl9: I truly believe your studies makes sense, and somehow, is supposed to be what we expect of it. However, you may consider Devil's Advocates but having to see the stock from October last year till now, does good news or good sentiments justify this stock? Speaking of which IBs were hunting the stock down, but I believe the BOD are doing the same..thus my thoughts that JCY may be better than many other Malaysian stock, not being manipulated and transparent is no longer valid. Look at their second quarter performance and their forecasted earnings during their IPO, and we will be able to know that the price now is below what is supposed to be. But why for no reason the stock can keep going down south? Manipulation, that's what I thought..but thank you, appreciate your valuable reply.

I would think is no longer the investment bankers playing around with it, probably the BOD is playing themselvs on this. I'm not sure how it works, but forcing people out from holding the shares means they can collect more and potentially privatising it before the market recovers..just my take, please challenge and let's have a healthy discussion here..

133 buyer turned to '7' buyer..wonder what's their code line?

hi usry, first of all, I do not have a blog actually, maybe you're referring to someone else. As mentioned usry, I do understand your concerns, and your thoughts, sentiments and judgement is valid for me, nothing too vague about it, everything is what we see now. My point is actually to make sure you cover your 'butt' a little, cos although you don't hold any responsibility to anyone nor anyone need to hold any part of yours, but the 'blame-game' is stupid in this forum..I've seen your 'semangat' in this counter and forum, and just a precaution..because sooner or later, there will be some 'idiot' who wants justification etc. No offense man..

usry: I do understand that and are well-aware of your intention is good. You may be right that the story is not real for the current juncture looking at the performance of the share and perhaps, a 'framed' story or sort..But what if the story is true? I'm not clinging on the story, as I mentioned I have held the share since last year, and not just myself, my family and gf's family, we all hold on mother's share, get through 'smelly' time of jcy-cd..but what if it is true, I'm just hoping that people don't come to you and said 'usry, !@#$%^&^'. I think some of the TA or chartist did was not to believe the story, but they follow the trends, maybe telling this will safeguard you being backlash later..:)

usry: no offense, I believe what you believe is the story is not real and as you mentioned, you've sold off all the shares. But are you trying to influence others to think the story is not real? Or do you happen to know some of the stories? mind to share :)

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/5/21/business/11321539&sec=business

yanerfei: they are doing it like how goldman sachs always do for WTI Crude oil price..which back in 2008, the influx had made Goldman Sachs flew up to more fame..

NKN1: Your point is definitely valid..one of the methods of securing or influencing production & price for any industry is to enter a LTA or buying a stake in a company. With that, be it Seagate or WD, there will be purchasing the components from JCY at a certain price, while JCY may not have an inflated profit, in any case another flood come along, but JCY will be promised with nice profit stream, which if FA is concern that is more important. And true that to open another new factory, too much costs and handling to do..anyway Lamken, 'yam seng' to you and everyone..

NKN1: Maybe I shouldn't use the word hedge, I should put as 'leverage' maybe..hehe

NKN1: reducing liquidity for jcy, means major shareholder may have more control. And they probably romped outsiders like morgan stanley, jpmorgan or other fund managers to lock high prices..like earlier comments, blocking CW issuers' ability to hedge..speculation again. hehe..

kizz: bought before RM1, but average out also near to RM1 ady lo..i burnt my hand on CD before, never ashame to admit..hehe

patrick: of course no God lo, that's why I say, if he can answer that, he mah become 'God'..
meljohn: I've bought the shares since octo-nov last year, I've been holding..I din buy today, I buy much earlier..

No sorry la, is just a joke..but if you have enough time in this 2 hours to read thru the previous comments, like 1000+ of them, there are (TA)Technical analyst and (FA)Fundamental analyst, some are (BA)Bullshit analyst ilke me, you will probably get the hinge of it. trust me, is worth the read..

just a joke to meljohn: if you ask lamken this type of question, he is not Si-Fu lo, he is 'God' lo..haha..the God that supply HDD to everyone..

NKN1: I should say why not to your comments, put it in HK/SG or even Shanghai - our CW issuers were opportunist..

usry: i would take that as a compliment or u're saying i'm a 'kaypoh chi' haha..
NKN1: I know this question is not directed to me, but previously JCY did intend to sell off their plants before the flood came. And they got the lucky strike, thus I will speculate, if JCY is given the LTA, they will probably privatise the company..as it is self-funded and growing strong..as I say, speculation..

News is up that their China 2nd Plant is up and running, and expect more efficiency in their production in China..

Research houses asked you to 'sell'..the one who write the post will 'buy' from you..haha..can't blame, Alliance Investment, how popular are they?

Hi FCTB, not that I'm in support of Lamken totally, more on taking his views and contemplating with my own research, and as I mentioned people like bones, petracot and previous few that provide good insight. Everybody probably did the same, some may not, but as you mentioned, do not be emotional with stock. But your last 2 posts were sort of emotional in some way, why so? I'm just thinking aloud, what's your intention? Many have got their share and learn their own steps, I've lost a couple but gain back later. I have nothing to go against you, but if you are a trader, and in KLSE things changes too fast for personal or institutional reason, that's why it is dirty, to a certain extent, TA or FA makes no sense. But if you look at cpteh and bones, their views, they are experienced traders that know the market, and i do feel sometimes it is based on their instinct as well. Sorry to brag so far, but why are you so agitated?

NKN1: you seem to know something, mind to share?

FCTB: No surprise..heard of this warrant before to be issued before, but tot was Maybank who is issuing though..

LTLOK: truly understand your take..and I have to agree, we shouldn't listen 100% to people's telltale, do your own study and be responsible for your decision..thanks

LTLOK: I think that was posted quite some time ago already but it is a good read. But do read on Lamken's Fundamental Analysis, it is clear cut and review through some accounting values. TA by a few others were not bad as well..but decision is still yours..

cheers to JJTrader..welcome back Lamken, it's been awhile..haha

snyang: Hmmm..send me your email, as I'm a little braggy..

hi yong, if you want to trade you should try follow bonesythe's (sorry if i spelt wrong)..they are experienced TA..I'm not sure about FCTB, but it seems like most of us here had held JCY since before CNY, some even longer back in last year nov or before..we bought JCY when they are still not RM 1 yet..hehe..

Yes, his effort was extraordinary..he probably have some Secrecy Agreement signed, thus he couldn't provide any info. here. He did mentioned previously, if he is allowed to provide the insights, he will do it..but till this date, cheers to him!

Shah: Your correction for JCY is RM1.35-1.4 drop to RM1.19? A 12% drop today, can I understand how you justify how you come out with that figure? TA or FA, QA anything you call it..Please provide comments that are justifiable rather than create any unwanted ripple or sort..there are many newbies who followed this counter..so let them learn in the right way..please! thanks

He won't comment in times like this, too nitty gritty ady. Cause many will plough questions to him, some good questions some stupid one..so he wouldn't be attending to all, might as well don't do it..if you look at his previous comments, his method is usually to answer every single one..hehe..he will come in again when it is near to Q2 announcement time..hehe

impressive amount..at .125 (4.1mil shares as of now), everyone is selling, no buyer at all..

Hi guys, apparently AmBank issued 1 Cash Warrant 1 Structured warrant. and CIMB is listing 2 more tomorrow..http://www.bursamalaysia.com/website/bm/listed_companies/company_announcements/companyAnnoucementSearch.jsp?url=http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDMS\edmsweb.nsf/LsvAllByID/F4BE5E445CE3748A482579D6000159DA?OpenDocument and http://www.bursamalaysia.com/website/bm/listed_companies/company_announcements/companyAnnoucementSearch.jsp?url=http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDMS\edmsweb.nsf/LsvAllByID/679AE9E3512B4B67482579D6000159CE?OpenDocument

Today will be forceselling day for JCY-CE as well, cos Friday list, many frenzy on it, so it might be a red day for CE ...

A point to note, if you want to buy CE, although is pretty much traders' game, be ready to know that you must be able to buy/hold the warrants if the price is dropping. If you try to contra it and wouldn't be able to hold it, then be careful. Is just like trading JCY, if you are investing it, you are just waiting for the fruit to grow and ripe and eat it. Just a fair warning..cheers!

what do you mean shortist?

Same exactly like JCY-CD, just that the conversion ratio is 2:1. Like CD, they expect their exercise price to be RM0.70, but this is RM1.30, which means they expect this stock can be growing and upon expiry, if your price is above RM1.60, you will get the earnings from buying the warrants. I hope I explain some points, please correct me guys if I misinterepret anything.

Yeap, http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDMS/edmsweb.nsf/all/76B6F0E6F2B599F6482579C90018A744/$File/Appendix%20JCY-CE.pdf

Apart from sharing, just to add, I think is the confidence in stock that lamken had put through. I was skeptical back in november about JCY, but after reading through the comments/critiques/etc., the amount of learning and hardwork to put and to actually learn what lamken and some others had put forward is not easy. And is just like when you're working, you wanto get high bonus, you work your a*se off! kudos to lamken and all JCY supporters (for what you have faith on as an investor will slowly come through)

so sorry, please send to my email at bomblikeme@gmail.com

jtpc: My take was that it is a "team" you can put it consortium, but the influencer of the market is 1 or 2 from the team. Correct me if I'm wrong Lamken, I hope we got the same info from the same source.

thor: Sorry if i put it wrongly, but my challenge is just a quote, not exactly like 'lashing and gunning' at you. I think it is fair for nasaie to have his/her points, and at least by this, people reading (judging from the amount of comments etc) will learn from this as well. I believe TA is a game for traders but sometimes realising their bear and bull run etc., but FA are holders, investors who are willing to see a company grow either by capital appreciation or dividend payout. TA is not easy to learn, I can't deny that, but I think a balance of both is relatively important, cause you would want to understand the business and look at their economics, rather than hopping from surfboard to another..

nasaie24: I'm sorry but I would like to challenge your point on TA is the best way to analyse the price. I believe technical, as technically sound is definitely tougher than FA, no doubt about it, stochastic model, fibonacci, ichimoku kinko-hyo and etc. are no joke in their trending and analysis. But to know the right price to sell or buy, I wouldn't think any analysis can assist even. Thus, when your tradig objectives is right, then you will set forth to it. I'm a quants by education, and was forced to study all aspects of FA, TA and numerical analysis, but till this date, we have only come close to the price range only! Just my 2 cents, nothing much fancy about it.

anyway Lamken: Welcome back, you've been missed! Email me to saberic100703@hotmail.com

Sorry, correct to its true value

Hi chong, I understand. I'm just telling to ahyeo, that 1.15 is just aft dividend adjustment, let's wait n see the action once for jcy to turn to new value

ahyeo: Didn't go down la, is just haven't go up!

oh, then there's possibility then...