It tells there are noob like you that doesn't know 1,2,3.

Gaussian Even before QR is out the price already drop. What does it tell you
09/12/2020 1:08 PM

Tan gu gu...becomes ang gu gu...

Stephen Baster if no announcement, we'll be back to become long term investor lol
09/12/2020 12:34 PM

orang that talk bad are those dengki and jealous like shit.

They missed the boat. Only way is talk shit until they get the price they want...Once they buy in, the story changed. Isn't that obvious?

if Uncle Lim know QR this bad. NOt only use his own cash, his own company cash, and Tropicana's cash to buy in to report a Bad QR to lose more money is it?

EPF sell is not surprising. They need to trim up their portfolio, it's normal for them to take profit from profitable fund and prop the poor performing one to close the book. Nothing new.


goreng_kaki hailat!!!, net profit only 1.85B


sure limit down after lunch

This is what's written in page 59 or ur interpretation of pg 59?

"I assumed a revised new conversion price of say 12 sens. Since PA has a base value of 8 sens (please note:WB has no base value), the difference between conversion price (assumed) of 12 sens and the base value of PA of 8 sens = (12-8) = 4 sens, so instead of buying a Fintec at 10.5 sens, you can buy a PA at 5.5 sens then add in another 4 sens to convert to one Fintec share. The cost is only 5.5+4=9.5 sens."

Conversion price isn't ur biggest assumption. Your BIGGEST ASSUMPTION is that the price to convert 1PA shares to 1Fintec share is by doing this (12sen - 8 sen) = 4sen. Based on YOUR TWISTED ASSUMPTION, If conversion price is 10 sens and the base value of PA of 8 sens = (10-8) = 2 sens, ur calculation becomes (5.5sens + 2 sen = 7.5 sens) for 1 fintec share. F*ck that's GENIOS! Should I go on with ur dumb iteration?

U might as well open a new casino called casino de chankyew50 where pair beats royal flush on poker table. U play by ur own rule one.

When 90% of "investors" lose money in the long run. You know very well market knows NOTHING.
I don't think many here knows what's a below expectation or above expectation report. That's for sure.

Bad report go chase. Good report selldown. Market will take 1-2 days to decide if it's a good or bad report.

Make it simple for u. 2.4B PAT, one year around 10B, Current Market Cap 60B, 6 years collect ur money back. If you compare other company, which I don't know why anybody would buy. 100 years also won't get back ur money one. E.g. For GETS, maybe 500 years. But still, people buy. Mean QR will be good?



Gaussian Hahahaha QR must be NO good
09/12/2020 10:26 AM

Good that it's red. Alot people don't think QR result is that great. They take profit first.

But will chase when the profit is great..2.4B PAT circa 10B PAT per annum. Market cap around 60Billion. 6 years to collect back ur investment is not too bad.

Listing Date on 28th Confirm.

Banking limit up? It's called FAMA Bank is it?

Expertise Banking stock hot...thought today limit up
09/12/2020 9:27 AM

u were wrong first 10 minutes, now u r right 10 minutes.
who knows by 9.30 you are wrong again? hahhahaha

rockosl86 my prediction was correct.. as what i mentioned yesterday...it will be red
09/12/2020 9:09 AM

Better spend time with people like this. You are most welcome.

After this exercise, I can't tell for sure what's going to happen.
But from operators behaviour, seems like downside limited. After all, how much anyone can scam out of 8sen -10 sen counter? This is one of the reason i'm here. Plus, if they can pull this scam off, it offers upside unlimited. Sounds attractive le.

Just make sure before u sell anything, do check with ur remiser if it's already actually credited to you account and available for trade.

Dreams2Truth Hi @RJ87,
Yes, I hv subscribed d.
My remisier told about one month but he has no idea about the date.
Thank you for the info updates ya.
Will come back again after Xmas then.

I'm not doubting what written in page 59. I'm doubting ur interpretation of what's written.

"so if the price of PA now is 5.5 sens, the cost of converting PA to Fintec is (5.5+4)=9.5 sens."~ Ouote on quote.

Mana itu 4 datang? Can you please show me which part of pg 59 that says it's 4sen? But for some weird reason, u did plucked 4sen out of somewhere I don't know. Whose interpretation is that indicates price to convert 1PA to 1 Fintec share before the exercise was 8sen and now 4sen?

I find it quite peculiar for someone who had conveniently takes price to convert 1PA to 1 fintec share from 8sen divides in BY 2 becomes 4sen to have said "The calculation presented on pg 59 is not my calculation. I have no say in which parameter to be used and whether the figure should be divided by 1 or 2 or 3".

Which part of pg 59 say 8sen divides by 2? Which part say price to convert 1PA to 1 Fintec share has becomes 4sen after the exercise?

I wrote quite abit but decided to just ask questions. I don't see the point wasting my time to point out erroneous judgement to ungrateful people. Let them be on their dreamland.

If i'm right, the return is 300-500%.
Depending on the amount of anchovies set up to slaughter.

kkl123 be patient wait for two months
if you only make 100% profit consider very bad luck!
can sell and quit fr share market ,
luck so bad better dont touch shares
08/12/2020 8:53 PM

Those that miss the RI, then by all means....buy PA to not miss the boat.

The percent return at current price PA is attractive given u didn't own any Fintec share before the exercise, didn't buy OR for the RI.

chankyew50, u r better than jlex. Atleast u cook a calculation out.

The only smart thing u did was to anchor ur calculation based on few multipliers you like instead of Fintec ex-price. This way, it makes it looks better than buying the mothershare at best. I think ur numbers are quite optimistic(got 1 is outright wrong, hint, it's either divide everything by 2 or you don't. It doesn't work by choosing which one you like to divide by two. I don't think securities allow u to do that) =D

Those that go cheering, at least use abit of brain and ask why this divide by 2 but that don't. Try find out how the calculation works based on announcement. You will soon notice, "bo tiok le".

For those that wanna buy dream can continue to do so. It's better u find out truth than optimistic dream.

U subscribe dy or not? Need subscribe first then it will automatically credit to ur account. It might appear sooner in ur account. But remember, you are only allowed to trade on 28th if I remember correctly

Dreams2Truth Any idea when will we get the Right Issue shares & warrants C shares?

Guide to those doing E-Subscription via TIIH.online. Damm convenient.

Go to tiih.online, register account, make sure name and IC is the one you used to register for your CDS account, scan/upload pic of your IC front and back..(Don't be funny, cos TIIH.online will find ur CDS account based on IC and Name)

Once approved, login > click corporate exercise/event > filtered by company name > Fintec > click continue > check box T&C > next > insert no of securities to subscribe/no of access securities to apply > next > Review & Confirm (click confirm) > FPX payment or Maybank2u.(make sure you changed ur transfer limit first, Maybank2u allows upto RM800K, don't ask me how I know)

In event u didn't manage to buy any OR, u can try ur luck to apply for excess rights. E.g. I'm entitled for 500K shares, I apply another excess 500K shares. Sure get one is 500K shares. And the other 500K shares depends on application. This will cost you 80K +RM15 (handling and stamp duty)

Basically, if there could be access subscription that u can get for free. U Sorzai jor lo if can apply free one but you go buy. Put up ur hand if you are sorzai. (I bet nobody will put up ur hand. I'm sure jlex dunno about this.) =P

Should hv sold all at 13sen and apply the excess rights.

rally 3-4weeks before QR one will normally drop. Just tanked for almost 7 weeks straight and rally the day before QR one NORMALLY UP. There is a psychological explanation to this behaviour. You will have to pay for this content.

Want b*llshit also b*llshit properly

Speakup panicking if he should chase now. He die die will say tmr down and hopefully it down.
Cos if it doesn't, u will be having this question if he should buy at RM8.5. If RM8.5, i will say trade at your own risk.

speakup panic buying now
sad tomorrow panic selling when very good results out

Cancel RM7.1 sell queue. By the end of this week. Sell at RM8.5

if u sell at RM7.1. U ask urself why so sorzai sell so early.

looking at this...easily pump past RM8...
don't see much selling pressure...if u guys willing to wait abit more before selling...can sell higher...

U naysayer wait to buy at RM9 k?

Only require this month. But not compulsory to be like last year.

Dunno how reliable my “topglove” friend say if it’s today or tmr.

heavily operated counter like this. It's about putting anchovies to slaughter.

Just don't know how only.

Today operator take off day...hahahaha...

Normally, the 123 punts non stop one.

Only so hai need circular to know the details. Tells alot about him isn't it?

See, until now. Not one single calculation that substantiate his claim until now. Pussy pusing pussy pusing pusing pusing... Nvm, circular out liao I see what u want pusing pusing next. I wait ur calculation k?

Weird ppl...C16 more attractive....Let's say BAuto TP 1.75.
C16 strike value is 1.15. If BAuto reach 1.75, C16 worth 60sen. Enter 40sen, got 50sen return.

Enter mothershare only 20% return.

I know u did ur calculation. It's just there is no calculation that u can show if Fintec is 20sen, PA is going to perform better than OR, RI, WC or MS at current price point.

If u so smart. SHOW LA. The only reason u pussy pusing is because u can't. Only thing that's improved here is, ur changed to play this "If you are smart" card.

OK la...I let u off. I tell u when u could be right. I agree. When all OR, RI, WC, and MS sudah jalan and overpriced but PA didn't move. Then, good price to collect PA at 5sen. =D

U so clever...show mana salah? Until now, only thing u pandai is pussy pusing "by saying get ur facts right, get ur fact right" without substantiating where is wrong.

Maybe you are the one that didn't get ur facts right. At the moment, my argument that PA is rubbish if compared to OR > RI > Fintec MS stands. Begging by saying "Get ur facts right" isn't going to worm ur way out of ur stupidity. =D

Pinocchio, will only continue his lies la.

Show ME YOUR number.

u guys know why that sorzai say "excitement on PA will occur if Fintec hit 13cts or 14 cts"?
PA 5sen + another 8sen = 13sen. Show only begins for PA after Fintec goes above 13sen. While for others...Sudah lama jalan liao loooooooo

Go do something useful, find out how much do Fintec owns the WD...else u going to park the word loss with the the value this far...

"Loss of *************************************************************************************************************************************THIS DAMM FAR***********************************************************************************************RM300mil

Well, i'm quite sure the argument is going to end with s*hai saying...Seee 100% return from PA. But what he is blind about is. OR returns 200% or 300% from WC. Cos s*hai can't see anything more than his small brain can comprehend.

One s*hai can't make a proper rebuttal will start his "pussying-pusing" game.

Where is ur rebuttal on PA can be more attractive than OR and WC?

Can't u tell the difference? HLBANK profit appear in balance sheet. Next quarter likely more if not the same.

Fintec at the moment, quite sure QR in feb at the moment is -250mil loss. only way not to report loss is where Focus don't drop below RM5B market cap. At the moment standing at RM4B.

But but but...maybe they try to be asian version of Berkshire Hathaway.

kkl123 ALAMA MA ma!
people complain unrealised profit
reap88. why not you go to HLBANK
realised profits 700m.go to buy
here discount fr 18 to 0.10!!
q at HLBANK 0.10lah!
02/12/2020 7:08 PM

Go see the chart. For Malaysia in civic honesty index. Totally dishonest.
84 y.o still operating as con man.

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/365/6448/70.full?fbclid=IwAR3wUKfdtreAVeQjxYYiN_beJvdO8-wCvut-qd12J79g5a2CTfC34_mGhrQ

Did I say they both happen concurrently? OR sells at 4 sen first and then MS may drop 6-7sens later. As if u gonna come say sorry when it does.

Feel free to stay either blind or dishonest. In dog eat dog world, there will no honest operators here.
Even 84 y.o old snake, at the end of his life still pulling con job and make a drama by visiting AT plant for show. Sigh.

Now u scroll back and realize i'm one of the few that made few rounds of money is it?

Up_again RJ87, OR push to 3-4 cents, mother drop to 6 cents after exercise???
Looks like I am not the one living in the clouds.
Cheers, anyway some of us already profit multiple rounds from Fintec, so no need la condemn the company when make profit.
02/12/2020 4:18 PM

My advice is manage ur exposure.
I made few rounds of money. So, the most if Fintec drop to 0 is lose what I gained.

Manage ur exposure. Assess you downside risk vs upside reward.
I can tell a good story how u can make alot of money if you do.
At the same time, can potentially LOSE EVEN MORE.

if OR got push up to 3-4sen. I will sell half and exercise half.
My downside risk will absorbed by profits from selling OR. And maybe collect cheaper if it drops to below 6sen after the exercise. That time, really big sorzai if buy PA. hahahahhaa

donkey69 so is it a good opt to buy the right issue offered by Fintec ?

When are you hired for this job? Not suddenly. I already shared my playbook even before Fintec reports it's first profit. Don't be s*hai. Go scroll back.

I'm sharing the traps and opportunities. This way, we won't be stupid stupid slaughtered by sharks. We can swim along the sharks. Cos when u know when to take profit. Sharks profit will be less. Evidently, few operators employed by sharks aren't very happy la.

This operators are heartless. Step 1 is get u to buy in. I agree. Step 2 is to put you to slaughter. Every syndicates must hv an exit plan.

Up_again This RJ87, share prices up suddenly say he got shares in Fintec
Spend one whole weak say Fintec bad zzzzzz
02/12/2020 1:00 PM

Relatively to what other opportunity fintec can offer...it is rubbish...*wink
WC is going to make PA damm unattractive. I will foresee heavy dumping on PA la.
It's 2 PA or 1PA + 8sen for one 13sen fintec share. I don't see much upside there. To get good upside, mother share needs to be above 16sen. U might as well ask what would OR, WC and Fintec returns? U know how to count or not?

Imagine if I have held 2mil shares of PA instead of MS. I'm getting jack shit now. No WC, no OR. Full effect of the dilution without the "potential" reward. And you tell me it's attractive. REALLLYYYYYY! There is no way, u can make a case where any Fintec price is going to benefit PA more than MS, OR or WC. Nope. Not one.

jlex11 PA is rubbish, really !!!!!!!!! ...I bet to disagree with it ...the excitement on PA will occur if Fintec hit 13cts or 14 cts....then the wild chase for PA will occur... let wait and see whether it will happen... PA has also other attractiveness only to those who knows about it

Cheers...

jlex say "Fintec potentially report LOSS RM150MIL".
see how jlex park the word loss far far far away from 150mil. hhahahaha =D

Go find out the difference between actual Market cap on 30Sept and going to be by 31 Dec
It's bery important to see apa focus market cap and worth of it's ICPS by end of Dec. If it's rubbish, no eye see on Feb report.

u will be looking 1000% QoQ loss. that's a good time to collect again. ahahahha

Like I say, it's still safe to hold until end of Dec la...No worries.

PA rubbish. Nothing to see.

0.5mil shares 400% return
1mil shares of 100% return if OR sells at 2sen.

Regret didn't buy more at 0.5sen. I might not wait to exercise the RI. I take profit first.
No need wait mother share up 20sen. =P

5354_ RJ87 wants to buy cheap? Fintec PA good for you haha.

That's called truth.

Focus Dynamics MarketCap from 1.5B to 2B(june). Fintec reports 120mil profit.
Focus Dynamics MarketCap from 2B to 5B (Sept). Fintec reports 700mil profit.
Focus Dyanmics MarketCap from 5B to 4B (Dec), Fintec should report -250mil loses in Feb next year.

U don't think this is going to be true if Focus don't hold above 5B, Fintec will report losses is true?This is what I called brain grow bside ur @sshole or you are just dishonest.

I'm quite sure this is the reason why Fintec won't go crazy. Sell, park the cash in the balance sheet. Terus 50sen. But the problem is BOD don't keep any cash in company. But RI instead.

Here's what I think, the moment they get money from RI, they gonna pump Focus, Komark and etc up higher. Then next QR will continue to report profit.

Since, I buy low. It doesn't hurt to enjoy the ride like you. It's just I'm more honest than you. =P

Fintec RJ87 bad-mouth but failed to bring down Fintec? Pity her like other haters.

Can you agree that if Focus Dynamics do not hold it's market cap above 5B by end of december, and it's actually 4B now and Fintec is going to report 250mil losses? These profit tat's not cashed into the company doesn't mean much. It can be gone as fast as it comes.

pineapple123 Go and check out STRAITS.

Real profit very good but price is also very cheap.

Wrong. No better way to close the gap between market cap with NAV by doing consolidation.

if 5:1, next time they support share price is not 10sen. It's not 50sen. But it's RM1. Anchovies going to jin dai. Not because they didn't buy. It's they bought and sold at wrong time.

pineapple123 Hello. Share consolidation in year 2017 was due to losses suffered during that time.
Now company profit 720mil, consolidation doesn't benefit the company. Dont simply tembak.

alot of newbie in fintec...gooooodddddddd!

Got two round anchovies slaughter....

P.S. all the name with 123 are either the same gang or the same person. Hinting me to quietly make money. Don't talk so much or it won't work. =P

faster sell...

No need hope it goes up before 4th. Normally, in this case...it will become 0 and just lapse because Everybody also suddenly also wants to sell...it's a bad gamble.

apa pun tak dapat...throwwwww!

Fast fast sell OR....bcos if you don't lapse later