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77 comment(s). Last comment by Up_down 2020-03-30 16:53

ks55

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Posted by ks55 > 2020-03-29 12:00 | Report Abuse

Boris Johnson wanted herd-immunity for UK.
He was prepared to let 60%, or 36 million British to be infected in order herd-immunity to kick in.
That will be amounting to 440k to 500k death based on 1.5% fatality.

Surely with 20k death, it is definitely a great achievement for NHS.
BUT the first to sacrifice must be Boris Johnson himself..........

Posted by Datuk Seri Rick Walker > 2020-03-29 12:05 | Report Abuse

When UK PM and Queen already tested positive for Covid19, imagine the larger population! If i were in UK, it's better to be infected that question when you get infected!

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 12:09 | Report Abuse

UK will recover.........better worried about Malaysia..............

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 12:10 | Report Abuse

when crisis strikes it always developing countries that suffers most.................

Posted by Datuk Seri Rick Walker > 2020-03-29 12:19 | Report Abuse

Q3! You are absolutely wrong! Malaysia will be among less infected in the world! Because what you think is stupid lockdown has saved us from uncontrollable disaster! So i suggest you move to UK immediately!

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 12:27 | Report Abuse

walker........developed world has the resources to back up their economy................

Malaysia?


now talk about $ 260 billion already...........for us.....crisis is opportunity to fatten somebody's pocket.

ks55

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Posted by ks55 > 2020-03-29 12:30 | Report Abuse

Lockdown is against human rights!
Lockdown is violation to freedom of movement without trial!
You cannot lock up a person before you give him right of being heard!

UK practices freedom of everything.
Free to move.
Free to speak.
Right of being heard.

So Boris Johnson will never lockdown UK!
He prefers to 440k to 500k British to die instead of restraining freedom to move.........

chinaman

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Posted by chinaman > 2020-03-29 12:34 | Report Abuse

We should copy SIN how to contain virus without complete lockdown. we're towards enhanced, tighter MCO but new cases keep rising. why?

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 12:35 | Report Abuse

shut down country 4 weeks....after that??

are we prepared for shut downs 2 - 3 months...and then gradually open up ......football matches, stadiums, cinemas, mass gatherings , churches, mosques, entertainments to close until next year ( or until developed world is ready to open up)...........?



we have brought a sledge hammer to the problem.........and somebody pocket is fattened , what next?

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 12:39 | Report Abuse

Singapore being Singapore.......Singapore will come out of this stronger................Malaysia?


we have two choice.........either herd immunity or country bankrupt...................

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 12:42 | Report Abuse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A71lfXrQlxU


bill gates, smart chap..........

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 13:03 | Report Abuse

Breathing fresh air at home. No need go to the park. Lockdown is a short term measure to buy more time to educate rakyat, preserves more medical resources, get more masks before the country is unlocked.

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 13:06 | Report Abuse

Don’t downplay Covid 19 or else the Malaysia might end up like notorious New York now.

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 13:09 | Report Abuse

Herd immunity is merely a theory. Is it being positive or naive to risk rakyat life?

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 13:19 | Report Abuse

What had happened to Italy and New York for downplaying Covid 19? Go to google to understand on how the doctors and nurses being tortured by the massive patients in the hospitals.

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 13:22 | Report Abuse

updown..........the trajectory we are going is 2-3 months lock down with gradual opening up...........and we will follow the leads by UK/US..........


can we, as a country find the optimum path ? That is not going to happen, Malaysia is not a smart country.......................

Open too early, the thing will come back immediately....so how?

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 13:23 | Report Abuse

Developed countries got a lot of resources........We got what? We got a lot of donations?

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-03-29 13:31 | Report Abuse

Haha qqq3
Done your donation already?

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 13:31 | Report Abuse

Lockdown 2 or 3 months? Are you expecting rakyat to eat grass? You think government got so much money to support rakyat to buy necessities? Be sensible.

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 13:36 | Report Abuse

Q3..You think human can negotiate with Covid 19 for not allowing it to come back? What the government do is trying to minimize infection as low as possible. We will live with Covid 19 at minimum risks when rakyat is educated well for taking serious precaution measures during this lockdown period.

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 13:37 | Report Abuse

updown...The point I want to make is that Malaysia is not smart enough to face this crisis with the minimum impact....................Malaysia has no reserves to speak of......................................

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 13:40 | Report Abuse

It is OK for not being smart in this crisis period. The government merely has to dumb dumb to minimize risk of massive infection and educating rakyat to live in a hygiene and taking serious precaution manners.

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 13:41 | Report Abuse

Q3. Do you want our PM to be as smart as Boris and Trump to counter Covid 19?

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 13:42 | Report Abuse

oh...and this malay unity government...............don't expect any thing from them.............they are more interested to turn this crisis to fatten their own pocket.................................

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 13:46 | Report Abuse

What’s important is our government knows what is the priority....to deal with Covid 19 from massive infection. The rest is the secondary issue.

Posted by Datuk Seri Rick Walker > 2020-03-29 13:50 | Report Abuse

Q3! You just been selfish and irresponsible! Are you implicate that freedom is more important that short term lockdown! Do you expect our very limited medical staff and resources manage 100% infection among malaysians! You will be the first to be treated on 5 foot walkway then! You think malaysians are so stupid to be concern and cooperative during lockdown! Well, let me be the first to donate to Q3 one way ticket to New York! I will donate generously so Q3 can enjoy her freedom over there!
Anyway, Singapore will face certain disaster! They are more concern with domestic economy than anything else! My son and wifey took unpaid leave! It's better to be safe than sorry!

Posted by Datuk Seri Rick Walker > 2020-03-29 13:54 | Report Abuse

Q3! You are the only one who thinks our lockdown is stupid! May i ask when are you moving out from this stupid coutnry!

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 13:55 | Report Abuse

Is it merely because he is banned from cycling during the lockdown period?

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 13:56 | Report Abuse

close up the country, spend money.............who don't know how to close up the country, spend/ print money.............the dumber the country, the more likely they do precisely that?

who can solve problem like China? like Singapore ? like Japan, S Korea, Taiwan? That takes brains...........

who can turn disaster into advantage like China, like Singapore?


that is not going to happen in Malaysia.

Posted by Datuk Seri Rick Walker > 2020-03-29 14:00 | Report Abuse

Don't praise China and Singapore too early! It's possible 2nd wave will hit China if indeed Covid19 mutate to Covid20! By the way, if China had contain this pandemic much earlier and close it's borders then instead of criticizing US and other natons for banning tourists from China back then, we would not have to deal with current global disaster!

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 14:00 | Report Abuse

Boris Johnson says.....people should jog, take a walk, cycle alone ( not in a group) once a day to keep fit.......


here in Malaysia......they have locked up 40 in Bukit Kiara for taking a jog alone.................

well.....this is how stupid things can get in Malaysia..........................

Posted by Datuk Seri Rick Walker > 2020-03-29 14:01 | Report Abuse

Q3! It's now confirm that public walkway can pick up Covid19 virus! You can bring back this virus after your jog! Your shoes if not sanitize will wheck havoc to your next of kins!

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 14:02 | Report Abuse

As a small country with multi races , if our PM is not able to identify the priority...the rest down the road is nothing more than a myth. Living now and solve the problem now rather thinking non stop future problems....lolz

Posted by Datuk Seri Rick Walker > 2020-03-29 14:02 | Report Abuse

And you listen to Boris Johson, the idiotic who is tested positive Covid19!

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 14:04 | Report Abuse

Walker. The biggest joke of the day.

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 14:08 | Report Abuse

Simply worship white for personal pleasures?

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 14:11 | Report Abuse

updown...reacting to things as u see...............

but who can see further than reacting to things as they see? Who can be proactive?



.the likely trajectory we are going is 2-3 months lock down with gradual opening up...........and we will follow the leads by UK/US..........

.....Malaysia got the reserves to do that mmeh?



if open too early, the thing comes back immediately and all the previous sacrifices goes to nought...................


malaysia where got smart one? malaysia is a dumb country and dumb country will do dumb stuffs.........

Posted by Datuk Seri Rick Walker > 2020-03-29 14:17 | Report Abuse

Q3! The purpose of this lockdown is to identify all carriers and to curb the spread! We are dealing with unseen enemy here!

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2020-03-29 14:24 | Report Abuse

Dear Datuk Sri
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2020/03/28/5084-in-tabligh-cluster-yet-to-be-tested-for-covid-19/
March 28, 2020 5:59 PM
“We need to find 5,084 who have not been tested. We hope we can test them in time,” he said, adding the ministry was working closely with the police to track them down.

My question why till March 28 still have not track down 5,084 people from the Sri Petaling Mosque tabligh convention, shouldn’t it be top priority to trace down and test all the tabligh cluster?

Thank you

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 14:26 | Report Abuse

as like every thing in life...........the smart people take targeted measured actions and good timing is every thing..........not unsustainable, panicky measures with no reserves left begin at the beginning of the war......this is just setting itself up for eventual failure.



well....Malaysia is a stupid country and stupid country do stupid things is very normal.



just have to tolerate it, I guess.....but don't congratulate yourself prematurely.............and don't ejaculate prematurely.

Posted by Datuk Seri Rick Walker > 2020-03-29 14:28 | Report Abuse

SsLee! Yeah, i agree with you! A bit disappointment too! Because of this irresponsible and selfish 5k, there rest of us are suffering!

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 14:31 | Report Abuse

by Sslee > Mar 29, 2020 2:24 PM | Report Abuse

rack down 5,084 people from the Sri Petaling
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Malaysia more interested in doing dumb stuffs and spend/ print money than in doing smart stuffs that require brains/ effort....oh...2 weeks ago they say got 4,000 cases from Tabligh testing awaiting results.....two weeks later still got 4,000 tabligh tested still awaiting results........This is Malaysia.

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 14:45 | Report Abuse

You don’t have to be smart very time and looking for trouble. It’s similar in stock market. Sometimes, we just have to be dumb dumb hold or dumb dumb leave the market for a while.

king36

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Posted by king36 > 2020-03-29 15:14 | Report Abuse

Heard China donated money and face mask to Malaysia, Jack Ma also donated face mask. Where are they?
Why we still do not get free mask but have to buy it?

king36

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Posted by king36 > 2020-03-29 15:18 | Report Abuse

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/savemalaysia/2020-03-29-story-h1485700006-China_donates_test_kits_ventilators_face_masks.jsp

China donates test kits, ventilators, face masks

When can we get free face mask?

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 17:17 | Report Abuse

in any crisis, its developing countries that will suffer most.......this thing no exception.

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 17:19 | Report Abuse

u can lock down for 2 weeks, 4 weeks even..........can lock down for 2-3 months as the science requires?

qqq33333333

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Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-03-29 17:26 | Report Abuse

its attack from the top and defend from the bottom...........u can lock down from the top...just sign an order only..........

can u defend from the bottom by testing, contact tracing, isolations, quarantines?

can do mitigations by having enough preparations, equipment, doctors, nurses?...and smart assistance for sick and their family members?


China got 100 million party members mobilized to be community workers to take care of the needs of their communities...Malaysia got meh?

Malaysia will bring sledge hammer to the problem.........and use crisis to fatten somebody pocket............that is what we are.

and hospitals stuffs..............we have China donations for that.

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 17:45 | Report Abuse

Q3. You worship CCP so much and looking down our own country without solid reasons backing. Come back to see the results in fighting against Covid 19 three months. No point keep mumbling.

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2020-03-29 17:55 | Report Abuse

China is no more facing supply chain issues but global demand slumped due to Covid 19. The demand crash is worst than trade war.

https://youtu.be/ME0pSHFzBYw

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