Posted by Jay > 2016-10-18 16:28 | Report Abuse

puncak has 1.1b net cash at June. now they spend 270m here. first 6 months of the year net cash outflow almost 100m, annualised will be close to 200m. with planting capex will increase substantially, opex will also increase while income is minimal. if they just rely on existing loss making biz + new plantation biz, they could burn through the cashpile in less than 3 years time. so be careful with the net cash angle when investing in Puncak

Posted by kahhoeng > 2016-10-18 16:54 | Report Abuse

roger, jay, yes, you are right, but don't worry, I won't sell my shares so long that the plantation is bought at this price and Puncak is committed to developing them. Would be great if Puncak is a pure plantation stock in a year or two.

And Jay, please go and read the quarter report, for the 6 months in operation, Puncak operation cash flow is a negative RM 45 million, rather than your said RM 100m.

Posted by r°Moi > 2016-10-18 16:57 | Report Abuse

Should be ok la


ROI should at the least has been evaluated....

Legitimate expectation of being issued land titles verified by Rozali the lawyer


It is just the time to maturity....


With Pan Borneo Highway bringing accessibility...

And .. all the dams

Sarawak... the country... will be very different in the near future.... be there

Posted by r°Moi > 2016-10-18 16:59 | Report Abuse

Roger123... still looking at Sarawak as only jungles... with only native land titles

Posted by r°Moi > 2016-10-18 17:08 | Report Abuse

Do a bit of purposeful waiting la....

Posted by hng33 > 2016-10-18 17:09 | Report Abuse

Most of Sarawak plantation land are leasehold, you can check wtk, jtiasa, taan landbank, in whcih the land ownership is under state, and private company is given right development eg. 60 year for palm plantation

Puncak today share price down -2 sen in response to these venture into plantations in Sarawak as the benefits will only be realized in the longer term, no short term recovery.

However, the trading volume for puncak is NOT at all active, nor knee jerk selloff. I believe given time, Puncak will resume north later.

Awaiting for Puncak to acquire next target triplc which is immediate earning accretive

Posted by Jay > 2016-10-18 17:11 | Report Abuse

net cash outflow is 97m. if just focus on operating cashflow, then capex cost will be ignored

Posted by r°Moi > 2016-10-18 17:12 | Report Abuse

Starting from this November... to make the waiting easy... Rozali.... can pay an annual high divvy

Posted by Jay > 2016-10-18 17:33 | Report Abuse

at current market cap of 500m, even if 20 times PE will need RM25m annual profit. Existing biz losses easily 60-80m a year plus some losses from the new plantation. to get a biz that immediately contributes RM100m profit with its remaining cash of 800+m is not easy. need to cut down the losses, acquire profitable biz and grow its profit before its share price can move up

Posted by r°Moi > 2016-10-18 17:54 | Report Abuse

PUNCAK has ceased most of its existing operations .. coming year still will lose easily 60-80m a year?

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-10-19 00:38 | Report Abuse

Sifu Hng holding: I alreay have diversified stock portfolio divided into dual trading account, cash account and margin account. Among the stocks in portfolio are largest stake Gamuda + WE, Wtk, Hsl, ekovest, Malton, mkland, Ksl, Puncak, airasia, kps , IWCITY, bjcrop, Trop, Maybulk, Genting, Drb, ho hup and some smaller stock holding

Posted by r°Moi > 2016-10-19 07:59 | Report Abuse

PUNCAK has downsized its O&G... water operation is also small... construction loss due to sub-con screwed up... now remedied

Anyway... has not seen the investment income from its heap of cash pile

Posted by Jay > 2016-10-19 09:47 | Report Abuse

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2016/10/19/puncak-niaga-loss-seen-continuing/

Posted by r°Moi > 2016-10-19 13:07 | Report Abuse

Is there legitimate expectation to get 38,000,000 ie 950,000,000 × 4% from the King?

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-10-19 17:45 | Report Abuse

Hng: ur puncak still north or south?

Posted by hng33 > 2016-10-19 18:07 | Report Abuse

paperplane2016 see? complain again, sissy
19/10/2016 08:37

Hahahaha.... Likeminded get backfire :)

Posted by r°Moi > 2016-10-19 18:20 | Report Abuse

Puncak and KPS share lots of same traders.... and KPS more in today

Posted by hng33 > 2016-10-19 18:29 | Report Abuse

Every stock have its D- day, today is Kps, next day could be Puncak. So, just be patience when come to time awaiting for reward. Stock with potential will eventually shine :D)

Those keep complaining on everyday share price are typical loser minded-----> clown roger123

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-10-20 19:34 | Report Abuse

Hahahaha. I will buy when puncak is below rm1.00 again.

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-10-20 19:36 | Report Abuse

Hng: U got so many clown friends in this forum. Im wondering how u gonna defend urself, u get so many enemies shooting u everyday

Posted by sell > 2016-10-20 19:40 | Report Abuse

Agree with roger123. Main reason is hng33 sell call in stocks he owned before.

Posted by rogers123 > Oct 20, 2016 07:36 PM | Report Abuse
Hng: U got so many clown friends in this forum. Im wondering how u gonna defend urself, u get so many enemies shooting u everyday

Posted by hng33 > 2016-10-20 20:42 | Report Abuse

Hehe.....狗嘴里吐不出象牙 <------clown roger123 + clown gang ------> pity

Posted by hng33 > 2016-10-21 10:15 | Report Abuse

Grab more Puncak at 1.10

Posted by 4444 > 2016-10-21 10:23 | Report Abuse

CIMB said Puncak loss will continue.

Posted by SALAM > 2016-10-21 10:27 | Report Abuse

Rozali should be very thankful to our sifu hng33 for keeping the warmth on....

Posted by kahhoeng > 2016-10-21 10:29 | Report Abuse

CIMB's report can't even get the fact right, and you are citing his conclusion? LOL...

Posted by hng33 > 2016-10-21 11:51 | Report Abuse

hahaha, willing buyer, willing seller ---> bear own risk, enjoy own reward

Posted by linges > 2016-10-21 12:26 | Report Abuse

hng33...i believe now u r in paper gain ready :))

Posted by firehawk > 2016-10-21 15:29 | Report Abuse

dun believe CIMB lah .... believe the expert here better, know every tiny thing, most important is , tp =2.30, more than 100% gain, very very Good !!

Posted by jacklintan > 2016-10-21 15:57 | Report Abuse

If Selangor is won back by BN, what will happen to Puncak stock?

Posted by kahhoeng > 2016-10-22 20:58 | Report Abuse

the more I read into the plantation deal, the more I don't like about the deal...

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-10-23 00:13 | Report Abuse

Y

Posted by micky92 > 2016-10-24 18:09 | Report Abuse

Tabung haji continue buying..

Posted by r°Moi > 2016-10-25 07:58 | Report Abuse

Sarawak Oil Palms

..acquires young estates in a deal worth MYR873m in cash via rights issue and borrowings. Valuation wise, we believe the brownfield estates are fairly priced at an implied EV/planted ha of ~MYR34,000.

Proposes to buy SYOP’s 47,000 ha landbank

Sarawak Oil Palms (SOP) has proposed to acquire a 100% equity stake in Shin Yang Oil Palm (Sarawak) SB (SYOP) from its major shareholder Shin Yang Holding S/B for MYR873m cash. SYOP owns 47,000 ha of land in Sarawak, of which 23,798 ha has been planted with oil palm trees (and another 6,722 ha plantable reserves).

Motivated by scarcity of land and decent pricing

SOP rationalises that there is scarcity of suitable and sizeable land banks for oil palm cultivation in Sarawak which are available for acquisitions. Furthermore, SYOP’s plantations are planted on mineral soil.





Motivated by scarcity of land.... mineral soil.



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Posted by r°Moi > 2016-10-25 08:04 | Report Abuse

KUALA LUMPUR: Ta Ann Holdings Bhd will boost its plantation land by 5,280ha through the proposed acquisition of the entire equity interest in Agrogreen Ventures Sdn Bhd for RM211.14mil.

In a filing with Bursa Malaysia, the Sarawak-based timber and palm oil producer said it had on Monday inked three separate conditional share sale agreements to acquire 100% equity interest in Agrogreen.

Agrogreen’s main assets are its mineral soil land bank of 5,280ha in Lundu, Sarawak, of which more than 5,090ha have been planted with oil palms age one to five years old. Based on the planted acreage reported in its latest annual report, this would increase its planted area by over 6% to 87,372ha.

One of Agrogreen’s shareholders, Mohamad Sabry Othman (holding a 15% stake), also sits on the boards of two of Ta Ann’s subsidiaries representing the interest of Lembaga Amanah Kebajikan Masjid Negeri Sarawak.

Ta Ann said the proposed acquisition was a strategic investment in vuew of the scarcity of “sizeable suitable” oil palm plantation land in Sarawak.

“With over 90% of the land having been planted with oil palms, the proposed acquisition will contribute to the group’s fresh fruit bunch production and thereby to the futire earnings of the group,” it added.

The proposed purchase is expected to be completed during the first half of next year.



....main assets are its mineral soil land bank....

.....scarcity of “sizeable suitable” oil palm plantation land in Sarawak.


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Posted by r°Moi > 2016-10-25 08:07 | Report Abuse

... scarcity of “sizeable suitable” oil palm plantation land in Sarawak..... mineral soil.... this kind of land will fetch a even high price in near future....


Everyone is going to Sarawak.....

Posted by r°Moi > 2016-10-25 08:22 | Report Abuse

An even high price in near future.... so hopefully the immediate lack of substantial income will be compensated by appreciation in the land value.....


Looking forward to November.....

Posted by kahhoeng > 2016-10-25 12:22 | Report Abuse

i will oppose the deal unless a cash opt-out for shareholders not trusting the management is offered!

Posted by r°Moi > 2016-10-25 13:47 | Report Abuse

Good... still have the piss off in your belly....

But... this one does not need your approval.. only Rozalis

Posted by r°Moi > 2016-10-25 13:49 | Report Abuse

Well..... ask Rozali to put in some money.... and flip the land 2 years down the road....

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-10-27 00:12 | Report Abuse

Puncak bought a rubbish land... without planting on the soil mineral

Posted by hng33 > 2016-10-27 15:24 | Report Abuse

bought last batch of puncak at 1.09, average down

Posted by hng33 > 2016-10-27 15:45 | Report Abuse

Triplc soar up to above RM 2.00, expect take over by Puncak very soon

Posted by hng33 > 2016-10-27 16:58 | Report Abuse

:D)

Posted by kahhoeng > 2016-10-27 20:31 | Report Abuse

look at triplc quarter report and you still want to buy?

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-10-28 20:36 | Report Abuse

Buy triplc for wat? rubbish company

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-10-28 20:37 | Report Abuse

Triplc felt down so much, expect take over by Puncak very soon

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-10-28 20:38 | Report Abuse

rubbish company+ rubbish company= ???

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-10-28 20:39 | Report Abuse

Up 10 cents felt 12 cents..... Hahahaha

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-10-28 20:40 | Report Abuse

hng33: Triplc soar up to above RM 2.00, expect take over by Puncak very soon.
rogers123: Triplc felt down so much, expect rubbish company+ rubbish company= "rubbish-rubbish" company