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3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/first-major-construction-tender-for-changi-airport-t5-launched-in-march-chee-hong-tat

The launch of this major construction tender will be very good for YTL's cement business in Singapore

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3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

@Planterman, I don't think i3 admin will allow me to post the link.

If you want the pdf file of the report, please pm me in i3

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3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

Hong Leong released a research report on YTL Corp with a Buy call and target price of RM3.33, a 20% discount to SOP valuation of RM4.17.

The research house reiterates a target price of RM5.55 for YTL Power.

In page 4 of the report, it tabulates the Singapore benchmark retails contract prices by SP Services. The table clearly shows that the retail contract prices remained stable at SGD 32.47 cents/kWh or SGD324.70/MWh for April-June 2024, compared to SGD 32.58 cents/kWh in Jan-Mar 24, SGD 31.00 cents/kWh in Oct-Dec 23, SGD 29.96 cents/kWh in Jul-Sep 23, SGD 29.62 cents/kWh in Apr-Jun 23 and SGD 31.27 cents/kWh in Jan-Mar 23.

The current tariffs are almost the highest in past 2 years. It reinforces my view that PowerSeraya will continue to report good profits in coming quarters, as opposed to what some local analysts claim to drop by half by 2026 (which is bullshxt to me).

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3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

Hong Leong released a research report on YTL Corp this morning with a Buy call and target price of RM3.33, a 20% discount to SOP valuation of RM4.17.

YTL has performed momentously with strong earnings delivery since our initial report in Sep-23. We believe YTL remains undervalued with strong potential upside, leveraging onto key catalysts from (i) utilities (YTLP) – sustaining SerayaPower & APCO earnings, turnaround of Wessex and new growth from DC development; (ii) construction – from both external (including HSR and MRT3) and internal projects (e.g. data centre and LSS); and (iii) cement (continued strong demand from current projects and upcoming mega projects in the pipeline). We derive a fair value of RM3.33 (from RM2.10) on YTL based on 20% discount to SOP: RM4.17, with further potential upside.
Strong delivery. Since our first report in Sep-2023, YTL has delivered strong earnings performance in recent quarters with share price run-up above our initial fair value. After recent management updates, we remain upbeat on YTL’s outlook and we have revised upwards our fair value to RM3.33 (from RM2.10) based on Sum-of-Parts valuation.

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3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

When you do a check on the valuation of KLCI 30 component index stocks, you will find that most of them are trading at PER of over 15x, many at over 20x with dividend yield of less than 3%. But they still get local funds' support just because they are GLCs and local funds have substantial holdings in each of them.

But local funds are also under pressure to perform, otherwise the fund managers will be out of the job. When they check through the big caps in Bursa, they will find that YTL Power is among the cheapest stock. Once they get comfortable with the fact that YTL Power earnings will stay resilient over next few quarters, they will think YTL Power is trading at unjustifiably low valuation and gradually accumulate the shares.

When more funds think the same, and as YTL Power grows further as new earnings stream kicks in, the valuation becomes even cheaper and more funds will then rush in to buy. It is the fear of losing out (FOLO) that will drive the share price higher.

This situation will become more apparent when YTL Power announces a good news (likely in coming weeks) or another set of good results in May end, foreign funds will jump in again to scoop up the shares.

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3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

@Raymond, yes the stock market is forward looking. For Tenaga's current PER of 25x to fall to 15x, its earnings will have to increase by 67% by 2025. Now you need to make an assessment as to whether this is possible or not. Tenaga business is in the steady power generation and transmission, with the 1%-2% electricity demand growth in Peninsular Malaysia and with the electricity tariffs fixed, how could Tenaga possibly increase its earnings by 67% in one year??

I seriously doubt it.

One of the reasons why YTL Power is only trading at forward PER of just 10x is because local analysts play down on its earnings growth, eg. some always use the excuse of "normalisation" of PowerSeraya earnings by 2026 without giving much detailed calculation to justify the low earnings projection. The reason why local analysts play down on YTL Power earnings prospects and valuation is mainly because most of them missed out on the share price rally of YTL Power and completely wrong footed on the explosive earnings growth of PowerSeraya. Some of them have even advised local funds like EPF to sell off YTL and YTL Power shares. So now they cannot be seen as slapping their own face by projecting good earnings prospects of YTL Power and giving a high target price.

But things are changing now as local funds seem to be ignoring these local analysts' recommendation and started accumulating shares of YTL Power since March 2024.

Some of these local analysts are becoming the "Buy" call advisors to the local funds, and will soon upgrade YTL Power to higher targets once their clients have accumulated enough stocks.

To me, there is no reason why YTL Power should be trading at a low PER of 10x. I would argue for a fair PER of 15x for such a big cap with strong earnings growth.

To take note is that the long term average PER of US stock markets is 15x and the long term average PER of Bursa component index stocks is 15x to 20x.

I am taking the lower end of the Bursa average PER range.

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3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

Don't get me wrong, KSL is a good company. I did buy some of its shares for long term investment as I believe eventually KSL management will realise how important dividend payouts are to the company as a listed one and to shareholders.

After all, we invest in listed company shares only for 2 purposes - to get dividends every year and to enjoy any share price appreciation.

If a listed company does not declare dividend but keep all cash to itself and to its directors, the share price will not move and minority shareholders get nothing.

For YTL Power, we can expect higher dividend payouts for FY2024 and beyond as the company profits scale new record highs.

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3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

@Raymond Tiruchelvam, I do not see any other big cap trading at 10x PER, most are above 20x PER. Please let me know if you find any. Hence it is unjustified for YTL Power to trade at 10x PER for a company that earns over RM3.0 billion a year and growing big in next 2 years.

Don't compare it to the small caps, some are trading at PER of 10x or below due to various reasons - earnings boosted by one-offs, small cap, not liquid, management not proven etc.

I also can find one - KSL which is a smaller cap property developer. The reason it is trading at just 4x PER is because the company has not declared any single sen of dividend since 2015, while the company directors are getting bigger pays every year.

YTL Power is different, it is a lot bigger with market cap of over RM32 billion, almost within the top 10 big caps in Bursa. It has consistently declared dividends over the years, non-stop even when the company was making little profit in 2017-2020. During Covid years , the company directors did not get any bonus, some more willingly took a 10% pay cut. More importantly the management continuously innovates to diversify and bring in lucrative deals to make the company profits scaling new heights year on year, as we have seen for FY2023 and FY2024. FY2025 will be another record year in profits. And I project new record earnings for FY2026, FY2027 and well into FY2029 when PowerSeraya's new 600MW hydrogen ready CCGT is operational.

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3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

I retain my view that YTL Power remains the cheapest big cap in Bursa with forward PER of around 10x only, compared to PER of well over 20x for other utilities stocks such as Tenaga and PetGas.

I think local analysts will find it harder to justify a fair value of RM4.00-4.20 for YTL Power going forward, especially when Tenaga share price has broken new high, and as YTL Power delivers another set of resilient earnings for Q3 FY2024.

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3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

I echo Mr. OTB's view on YTL Power share price movements, it should break new highs in next few days or weeks.

On the other hand, after studying the report by CLSA and doing more detailed calculations, I find that the EBITDA margin for YTLPower's AI data centre business can be as high as 84%. This is higher than the typical range of 65%-80% as YTLP enjoys lower electricity prices (lower if it installs more solar power at the site) and water costs, compared to other countries like Singapore.

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4 weeks ago | Report Abuse

@cktay, I am not sure where in Bursa website we can get such data, but I got it from Hong Leong research daily reports.

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4 weeks ago | Report Abuse

https://www.forbes.com/sites/richkarlgaard/2024/04/21/electricity-wars/?sh=2ecd5de47abd

What changed? Two things. One was “transformer”—a new AI language model that emerged from Google Labs in 2017 and made today’s generative AI possible. Two is the sheer processing power of Nvidia’s chips. The new Blackwell chip has 208 billion transistors. Nvidia says Blackwell can support a 27 trillion parameter model, a gigantic leap in processing power from what’s available today. One of the first deployments of Blackwell will be in Malaysia, powering a supercomputer created by YTL, the Malaysian business group run by Francis Yeoh, who shares a $1.4 billion fortune with his siblings.

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4 weeks ago | Report Abuse

https://www.forbes.com/sites/richkarlgaard/2024/04/21/electricity-wars/?sh=2ecd5de47abd

What changed? Two things. One was “transformer”—a new AI language model that emerged from Google Labs in 2017 and made today’s generative AI possible. Two is the sheer processing power of Nvidia’s chips. The new Blackwell chip has 208 billion transistors. Nvidia says Blackwell can support a 27 trillion parameter model, a gigantic leap in processing power from what’s available today. One of the first deployments of Blackwell will be in Malaysia, powering a supercomputer created by YTL, the Malaysian business group run by Francis Yeoh, who shares a $1.4 billion fortune with his siblings.

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4 weeks ago | Report Abuse

I state it below again for your easy reference.

Jawa Power and Jordan Power - earnings will be steady at RM120-150 million PBT a quarter
PowerSeraya - estimated at SGD180-200 million net a quarter

PowerSeraya earnings will be slightly lower than Q1-Q2 FY2024 due to lack of extra long generation gain from selling into the pool and gradual falling off more lucrative retails contracts locked in during the pandemic

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4 weeks ago | Report Abuse

@cstanmyinvest, I believe I have said here numerous times before that the USEP fluctuations have little impact on PowerSeraya earnings as over 95% of its electricity sales are locked in retails and vesting contracts. The exposure to the wholesale pool market is small, yet the extra long generation gain can be substantial when the pool prices are high as we saw in Jan-June 2023 when PowerSeraya managed to realise extra generation gain of SG$20-30m a quarter by selling into the pool at high USEP.

For better understanding of how the merchant electricity market in Singapore works, please read one of my previous posts which detailed how the market works.

YTLP power generation includes generation business in Singapore, Indonesia and Jordan. You need to assess the earnings potential of each asset. Pls read my earlier posts and comments in this forum for more info.

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4 weeks ago | Report Abuse

@estk, I do not know where in Bursa website the daily traded data is extracted from.

I got the data from Hong Leong research daily reports.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

Local institutions net bought RM25 million worth of shares in YTL last Friday alone, and local retail investors were the only net sellers, being spooked by Middle East tensions.

It is a waste for local retailers to have sold off YTL shares which are still cheap at forward PER of only 12x, compared to Tenaga's 18x PER, PEtGas 25x PER, Sunway 21x PER.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

Foreign funds collectively bought a total of RM24 million worth of shares in YTL Power last Friday 19 April, and local institutions bought another RM18 million worth of shares in YTL Power.

Only local retail investors sold YTL Power last Friday, being spooked by Middle East tensions and naysayers in this forum. What a waste!

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

@Agjl, I cannot share the full report here as i3 admin does not allow it.

If you want, just pm me in i3 messenger and I will send you the pdf file

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

CLSA upgraded YTL Power today to a BUY with higher target price of RM5.10. Some extracts from the research paper:

YTL Power: a proxy play to Nvidia, upgraded to BUY; we prefer it over YTL
- YTL Power, among a select few with priority to Nvidia’s latest chips, stands to gain on
the hastened rollout of capex (we estimate RM16bn). We introduce AI segment
valuations (earlier ascribed co-locator valuation), which lifts our target price to RM5.10
for YTL Power and to RM2.88 for YTL, but lower YTL’s rating from BUY to O-PF on price
action. We raise our earnings forecasts by 10-28% for YTL Power and 12-26% for YTL
over 25-26CL to account for the AI segment impact.

- Assuming a blue sky scenario, fair valuation could rise to RM6.60 for YTL Power (on a
150 MW rollout). YTL Power leveraging on Nvidia to scale shields against over-capacity
risk in non-AI datacentre demand.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

@Apple888, CIMB target price for YTLP is RM4.50

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

CIMB analyst must be careful and responsible in her earnings projection as many local funds are buying into YTL Power now, otherwise she will go against the interests of these local funds who are clients of CIMB Investment Bank

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

CIMB analyst has definitely overplayed the "normalisation" of PowerSeraya earnings. She will have to upgrade YTLPower earnings projection after the company delivers another set of strong earnings in coming quarters.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

@JMpower, as I wrote in my last post on YTL & YTLP, I think it will be fair to attach a PER of 20x for a well diversified conglomerate like YTL, hence a target price of RM4.00.

If YTL wins the HSR, then the upside is a lot bigger.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

I think as the major shareholders are also the top management, the management style is naturally more conservative and the management is not bothered much with share price fluctuations. Unlike those companies which are run by professionals employed from outside and the CEO's remuneration is linked to the share price performance, KSL is run by the major shareholders so they are in for the long term gains of the company.

Though they are not bothered much with short term share price fluctuations, but it is always important to maintain the company share price at a healthy level, because after all the whole purpose of doing the listing is to raise money for the company, hence if the share price remains depressed, it defeats the purpose of listing.

I think it still makes sense for KSL to remain listed as the company will still need to raise fresh funds for future land acquisition or new commercial projects.

What I have proposed above will be good for the long term gains of the company as well as short term share price appreciation, so I hope the KSL management will consider them.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

@Invest_888, I would like to meet the Khoo/Ku brothers/directors if they are willing to receive me. Even without doing so, I believe the KSL major shareholders and management know what to do best for the shareholders as it will be in their own interests too.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

The IBs are at work pressing down the share price ahead of call warrants expiring next Friday and April end, so the share price will probably be capped til April end. Nothing much to share and write before then.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

share price is under selling, and so I will stop writing anything until it stabilises.

The bear has got the upper hand for now.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

If you are not comfortable with the current share price level, just sell off and move over to other counters, and not talk non sense here.

Newbies are also not advised to buy into this counter now if they are not comfortable with the strong price rally in past 1 year.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

YTL Power is still very much undervalued, despite the strong rally in share price in past 1 year.

I particularly disagree with the notion by some parties that YTLP is over-valued, as they are not able to come out with any figures to show. Whatever valuation matrix you use, and whichever big cap you use to compare, YTLP is way under-valued.

If it were over-valued, the share price would have fallen to RM3.00 or below. Why after over 2 months of hitting the peak of RM4.24, the share price still could hit RM4.17 earlier this week? And the buying volume on that day was very high, estimated to be over 10 million shares that bought into the stock from RM4.05 to RM4.17. That was not the kind of volume either you or me or any retail investor could buy. Hence I suspect it was by some local funds.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

I always think that i3 is a platform for us to share useful information among retail investors so that we get more clues on which stocks to buy ahead of the foreign funds and local funds.

What we write and post here does not have any impact on the share price of big caps like YTL or YTL Power, as the shares traded everyday are in tens of millions. What we buy or trade hardly moves a needle.

But for small caps like KSL or Crescendo, share price may move fast even only retail investors are trading the counters, so we must be more responsible in what we post.

Hence I find it strange for some parties trying to talk bad on YTL Power in this forum, as such effort will come to nothing. On the other hand, what I write here also will not have any impact on YTLP share price, no matter how I promote it.

What I am trying to do is just give a reasonable projection on what to come for YTL and YTL Power based on my own analysis on how earnings outlook will be and how the market may value it, hence my projection for 15x PER eventually.

It may or may not achieve that kind of valuation, as it also depends on foreign fund flows in and out of Bursa (which itself depends on a lot more other factors like US Fed interest rate cycle, ringgit movement outlook, the country fiscal positions and policy, any external black swan events etc.) and whether the company and each of its subsidiary can perform as expected.

Based on my years of following the company's management and corporate moves, I have reasons to believe that the company will do well in the near to medium term looking at the various initiatives it has undertaken. Hence I will just hold onto what I have on YTL and YTL Power without taking any profit as yet, as it is hard to find another big cap stock which has as good prospects as YTLP and YTL.

I just quote what Warren Buffet has said, he is "quite content to hold any security indefinitely, so long as the prospective return on equity capital of the underlying business is satisfactory, management is competent and honest, and the market does not overvalue the business."

I believe the prospective return on capital for YTLP is good and improving in next 2-3 years, and always believe the the management is competent in what they are doing, and think that the stock is not over-valued, so I just hold on until it rises above what I think it has become over-valued, or else I just keep them as long term dividend stocks.

As such, I would advocate for rational and responsible postings here, and for long term investments. And we should always be open to more investment ideas like PBA (which suffers a temporary setback now) and Crescendo / KSL now, though I did miss out on SP Setia at below RM1.00.

See it is absolutely possible for some of us as retail investor to beat the market and foreign / local funds, eg. we bought into YTL at RM0.52+, YTL Power at RM0.70-1.10, Crescendo at RM1.50, KSL at RM1.00-1.50 way before funds came in.

Finally, I welcome anyone who can share good info on any stock that you think will fly, so that we can all make money together.

Remember it is not a zero sum game among retail investors here, we are here to win money from funds by buying good stocks low ahead of funds and sell high to funds when they realise the deep values of the stocks we invested in.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

Yes we are all here to invest and make money. Lets hope for YTL and property counters all to the moon!!

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

correction, YTLP bought the Kulai land at RM429 million for a size of 664 ha, so effectively at RM6.00 psf.

and the land is worth RM8.57 billion now if based on the latest land transaction between Crescendo and Microsoft Payments.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

Of note is that Crescendo sold a piece of land of 23 acres in Johor to Microsoft Payments at RM120 pst, what a genius deal for Crescendo management!!

FYI, YTLP bought the 657ha Kulai land at just RM6.00 psf, which means the Kulai land has appreciated in value by 20 times in just 2 years!! It was valued at RM430m then but is now worth RM8.5 billion !!!

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

after the recent share price rally, valuation of property counters have gone up:

Eco World at 23x PER
SP Setia at 28x PER
Mah Sing at 15x PER
not sure about Crescendo and Plenitude which I think is less than 10x PER for smaller cap
KSL is the cheapest at 4.5x PER only

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

I agree that when foreign hot money is in, many counters will fly high. Right now the property sector is hot, and we are seeing counters like Crescendo, KSL, SP Setia flying high, and I am happy to see that as each of us can make some money from different counters we invest in.

When foreign funds come in and bring in money into Bursa, we retailers can make some money and local institutional funds also can take some profits off, then retailers and local institutional funds will have more money to buy other counters in Bursa.

That's my argument for local institutional funds accumulating YTL and YTL Power while both are consolidating and property counters surging high.

I am sure some of you are also taking some profit off the high flying property counters.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

But I am not suggesting anyone to chase high as there are always IBs trying to press the share price down ahead of their call warrants expiry. I suggest accumulation at low for long term investment.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

I am not discounting the possibility of local institutional funds approaching YTL and YTLP for a private placement of 2%-3% at a discount to market prices, or simply accumulating from the open market.

This is likely so as YTL and YTLP are becoming among the largest cap companies in Bursa and local funds are encouraged to invest more money in Malaysia by bringing back funds from overseas.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

Statistics shows that local institutions have been net buyers of Bursa stocks in past 5 weeks since 1 March 2024. I suspect that some of these local funds have been accumulating YTL and YTL Power shares as they missed out both last year.

As of 30 June 2023, EPF still had at least 3.02% stakes in YTL Power and 2.58% stakes in YTL Corp. I suspect they have more now but still lower than 5%.

Both YTL and YTL Power shares are undergoing consolidation phase now, awaiting fresh catalysts for a break-up. As they have been consolidating for over 2 months, I suspect good news should be coming in next few weeks.

In terms of valuation, YTL is still cheap at 2024 forward PER of 13x (compared to 17x for Tenaga and 23x for PetGas). Earnings are expected to rise in coming quarters and coming years from:

1) Jordan Power which is running at full steam now amidst gas supply shortage in Jordan
2) Wessex Waters which may turn around as early as in Q3 FY2024 and to report bigger profit from 1st April 2024
3) data centre 1st phase with SEA Group which has been completed in Mar 2024
4) AI data centre which will complete 1st phase in early 2025
5) cement business which is seeing stable bulk cement selling prices in Jan-Mar 2024 while coal prices are under control
6) construction business which will add billions worth of contracts from AI data centre, warehouses for SEA, massive capex programmes of Wessex from 2025, prospects of HSR
7) hotels and shopping malls with full recovery of tourism activities
8) potential more asset monetisation such as injection of hotels into YTL REIT

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I am not discounting the possibility that while the share price of YTL and YTLP are holding steady, local funds may approach YTL and YTL Power for a private placement of 2% to 3% stake at a discount to market prices, or are just accumulating quietly in the open market before the next good news to push it to higher level.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

Statistics shows that local institutions have been net buyers of Bursa stocks in past 5 weeks since 1 March 2024. I suspect that some of these local funds have been accumulating YTL and YTL Power shares as they missed out both last year.

As of 30 June 2023, EPF still had at least 3.02% stakes in YTL Power and 2.58% stakes in YTL Corp. I suspect they have more now but still lower than 5%.

Both YTL and YTL Power shares are undergoing consolidation phase now, awaiting fresh catalysts for a break-up. As they have been consolidating for over 2 months, I suspect good news should be coming in next few weeks.

As to valuation, I mentioned before that YTL Power at RM3.80-4.00 was trading at just the fair value for PowerSeraya alone, and investors were getting all the other assets (Wessex Waters, Jordan Power, Jawa Power, Yes 5G, data centre business, digital bank etc.) for free. This still holds now.

Looking at things are moving at the other assets and data centre division, I expect investors will soon give appropriate values to each of them as each starts to contribute earnings in 2024 starting with:

1) Jordan Power which is running at full steam amidst gas supply shortage in Jordan
2) Wessex Waters which may start to turn around as early as in Q3 FY2024 and to report a bigger profit from 1st April 2024
3) data centre which has seen its first phase with SEA Group completed in March 2024
4) AI data centre division for which YTLP has secured access to Nvidia latest Blackwell GPUs

I would expect YTLP's earnings to be around 40 - 42 sen for FY2024 with slightly lower earnings contribution from PowerSeraya in 2H FY2024, which shortfall will be covered by improved earnings from Jordan and Wessex, and maiden contribution from 1st phase data centre with SEA.

For FY2025, with half year contribution from the AI data centre (with 1st phase to be completed in early 2025), YTLP net profit may jump up by about RM400 million and EPS may exceed 45 sen, then rising to 50 sen in FY2026 with full year contribution from the AI data centre.

With the larger earnings base (>RM3.0 billion a year, comparable to Tenaga, TM or PetGas) and a more diversified earnings base (ranging from utilities businesses of power generation in Singapore, Indonesia and Jordan, water & sewerage in the UK and Johor, 5G telecommunications, data centre, property development in the UK etc.), the market will attach a higher PE ratio to YTL Power. I am looking at 15x PER as a more palatable valuation (still lower than Tenaga's 18x, PetGas's 23x).

I am confident that YTLP share price will test RM6.00 (15x EPS 40 sen) in 2024 and RM6.70 in 2025 and RM7.50 in 2026.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

Yes there are so many potential corporate exercises that KSL may do to enhance shareholders' values:

1) bonus issues to enlarge share cap base and to increase liquidity
2) private placements to institutional funds to raise cash for future expansion and to increase free floats
3) to issue 5-year warrants like one free warrant for every 2 mother shares held to progressively raise more money over next 5 years and to increase share cap base
4) to inject the hotels and shopping malls into a REIT which may raise easily RM800 million cash to KSL (i.e. PBT of RM120m in 2023 from commercial assets or operating cashflows of over RM130m a year, at 7% yield, the REIT would be worth RM1.86 billion)

5) declare dividends from 2024 onwards, as it has completed all major capex programmes (Klang Explanade Mall & hotels) and strong operating cashflows would enable dividend payouts of easily 30% or 12 sen a year

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

Share price movements everyday is hard to predict and explain, as there are too many parties with different interests.

For example, we have another call warrant expiring on 19 April, which is issued by AffinHwang. Remember Affin dumped big volumes of mother shares on 8th Mar when its another call warrant expired. The big dump volume was adsorbed and share price recovered within a week. Just beware of another potential move by the IB who may try to depress the mother share price until next Friday.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

Another YTL Power's strength is that it is the only company in the region that has access to the latest Nvidia Blackwell B200 GPUs, so those cloud computing companies like Microsoft and AWS will lease out the AI data centre space at YTLP's Kulai park in order to use the powerful Blackwell B200 GPUs for their cloud computing business.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

Don't get it wrong, YTL Power is not in competition with the cloud computing giants like AWS or Alibaba cloud. Its AI data centre venture in Kulai is a facility to be leased out to these cloud computing giants, capitalising on YTL's core construction expertise, abundant land, adequate water supply and solar power.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

It is only natural for it to have some profit taking after a strong 2-day rally. It provides a good chance to those who missed out earlier to gain entry and for me to accumulate more at lower prices.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

I think one of the reasons why KSL share price has been depressed is that the company has not declared any dividend since 2015, though it made hundreds of millions of ringgit in profits.

You see other property developers do pay out dividends consistently though the dividend yields are low at 1% to max 5%.

That's the reason why the cash balance in KSL has ballooned to over RM500 million with little debts. I think the company did not pay out dividend in 2016-2019 as it prepared to buy over the large piece of land in Klang to branch out from Johor, and to prepare necessary cash to launch the property project in Klang township (initial development costs likeland cost and infra costs might have amounted to over RM100m or so) and to build the Klang Esplanade shopping mall and hotels there.

Now with all this major capex already done and shopping mall & hotels all performing well (note that its shopping malls and hotels in JB and Klang generated about RM120 million pretax profit in 2023), I reckon that KSL may not need to preserve so much cash in the balance sheet, unless it has identified another piece of land for new projects.

I predict that KSL may be willing to declare maiden dividends in 2024 as it has excess cash and strong operating cashflows to support a dividend policy of easily 30%.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

But I check the FCF method used by the AI platform and found that the projected free cashflows for KSL were much higher than I expected - RM489m in 2024 rising to RM1,600m in 2033. KSL recorded FCF of close to RM400m in 2023 if I excluded a unusually big development expenditure of RM78.3m for a piece of land.

Its FCF may double up to RM800 million a year 10 years from now, i.e. in 2033 as the company raises rental income in the shopping malls and hotels over the years and enjoys higher profit margin from new housing development in later phases in its maturing townships.

SO I would just knock off 50% from SimplyWllSt valuation, yet still getting a good valuation of RM7.59 per share, a good 320% upside from the current price.

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1 month ago | Report Abuse

Oh based on latest price of RM1.79, KSL is 88.2% below the fair value, which is RM1.79/11.8% = RM15.17