The Lone Ranger
Why are the Adviser stocks so volatile?
Why are the Adviser stocks so volatile?
Didn't he promise FA and TA?
Didn't he say he does not recommend bad FA shares?
The devill is in the details......The Lone Ranger is here to demask the scam
Firstly, volatility is exactly what he aims for.
People who want to establish a name in the industry will choose volatility over safety.
Some stocks are more volatile than others, You will never find stocks of lower vollatility in his pickings.
This religous movement is not interested in stocks of lower volatility. Even when picking stocks within the same industry, he will always choose from the more volatile picks eg prefering Hengyuan over Petron......and Masteel over Souther Steel. That is a given.
Since he operates with a "bible", you will find stocks of similar characteristics clustered together increasing the volatility of his portfolio. This is against the basic fundamentals of modern portfolio theories.
Modern portfolio theories look for stocks with negative co relations to reduce volatility and to benefit from diversifications.
That is why CFA organisations will survive, this religious organisation will not survive.
The Lone Ranger is angry because the retail investors and his customers do not understand the finer points of investments....Final decision is yours is certainly not enough in this case in such an asymetric relationship and in an unregulated environment.
When retail investors gets cheated and don't even know why they lost money, the Lone Ranger is sad.
As a start, reading this book......Fooled by Randomness by Nassim Taleb .......people willl start to understand the beast within and appreciate what the real professionals are trying to do.
ps.....
Low PE does not mean cannot lose money
TA will give you the signal according to your bias.
FA and TA alone is no substitute for careful thoughts, prudence, business sense and common sense.
.....and being stupid and stubborn can some times be rewarded but that is no way to approach the stock market.
Babies with new toy is how I see this religious group handle the question of eps and PE.
Arrogance and Confidence are the tools of the High Priest but these traits are exactly the worse traits at the wrong time , when humility is the only trait that can protect you.
The market is complex, Mr Market will find a way to punish the arrogant.
Evaluating fund managers begin with evaluating the process not the results. We try to improve our own performance by evaluating the process not just the results.
This is because results have both noise and signal, risk vs safety, volatility vs security.
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why Advisor stocks so volatile? its built into the process.
an ex raped stock is like an ex raped girl.....pitiful
not smart to buy ex raped stock
look for virgins.
2018-03-07 00:29
Evaluating fund managers begin with evaluating the process not the results. We try to improve our performance by evaluating the process not just the results.
This is because results have both noise and signal, risk vs safety, volatility vs security.
2018-03-07 09:31
the High Priest and members of the religious movement are now suicide bombers....dumb dumb hold becomes dumb dumb die.
Today we learn the real meaning of stock market and PE ratio
2018-03-07 15:14
if one focus on volatility ( high performance) , volatility is exactly what you will get.
2018-03-07 23:48
I guess if the Adviser focuses on shares suitable for widows....no one will throw bricks at the Adviser every time the market is down.
it comes with the territory, Mr Adviser , due to your approach to the stock market.
some shares with higher volatility than others , and this Adviser has a great talent to be stuck with high volatility shares each time the market comes down.
TA will give you the signal according to your bias
FA does not equal low volatility even if there is some relationship if properly chosen.
2018-03-07 23:50
Thumb up to theloneranger aka Mr. Ricky Yeo. OTB nowhere to hide your fox tail.
2018-03-07 23:55
otb
You think you can cheat fate, have high returns without high risk? Fat hopes...... But I also bet you wouldn't understand some thing so deep.
2018-03-08 00:18
The Lone Ranger also has this to say
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/theloneranger/149455.jsp
2018-03-08 00:24
otb
more likely you wouldn't be around in 10 years.....that would be stretching your luck too far.
2018-03-08 00:29
I had made it in my life.
I had been making money year after year since 2009.
I live a simple life, a small house, a small car, spend RM10 a day.
I am very careful in my investment, very sure I will be around win big in next 10 years.
I can stop now and retire.
Thank you.
Ooi
2018-03-08 00:35
Posted by Sharktank1 > Mar 8, 2018 01:01 AM | Report Abuse
See, you said GET LOST but still appear?
Ans :
So ungentleman, can attack people only.
Do not allow people to reply.
This is not Hengyuan forum.
Another dictator.
Thank you.
Ooi
2018-03-08 01:05
Commerce secretary says Trump is flexible on tariffs
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2018-03-08 01:06
Even KYY turns table against you. Both of you are crooks. From 5.95 cooked to 19.20 then plummeted to 8 in 3 months, what soup are you cooking?
2018-03-08 01:20
I think trading on one's own account is the best job in the world, with no one to report to.
But to be Adviser in an unregulated environment, to have to answer to customers, that is some thing smart guys don't do.
CFAs are trained to customise portfolios according to customer risk profiles. They don't just take a bible and say final decision is yours without explaining the relationship between risk and rewards,
Final decision is yours is assuming two professionals of equal standing discussing their findings.....
2018-03-08 01:30
what is your strategy OTB other than dumb dumb hold your high volatility shares?
2018-03-08 01:41
Ricky Yeo, I admire your work and integrity. Keep it up. HY is pure goreng by OTB. He needs non subscribers to push up again. OTB, The HIGH PRIEST, THE FALSE PROPHET, THE MANIPULATOR
2018-03-08 01:42
otb
and don't talk to me about cut loss at SMA 200, that is the silliest thing I have come across in my life.That guarantees selling a share only at multi year lows.
2018-03-08 01:44
People ask, why am I wasting my time?
ans: wasting time is not a big concern for me.
2018-03-08 08:28
mr otb, just ignore the noise here, need not to respond to all your attackers. the more you entertain them, the more they get excited and endless false statements in accusing you.
just keep quiet and happily earning your money. you have no responsibility to their encounter in their stock trading affair nor article.
2018-03-08 12:47
@thelongranger quote "Low PE does not mean cannot lose money"
this statement shows how stupid you are, since when PE is use to determine whether a company can or can not lose money. are you serious with your word?
2018-03-08 13:51
there are more stupid statement made by you in this article, i going to pose one by one here if i free.
2018-03-08 13:52
Otb got responsibility to his subcriber. Subcriber subcribe to otb service in expectation of better performance against market return. Latest result gave big lose to it's subcriber in totalilty provided the subcriber following otb proposed calls and analysis. For that, he need to give a good solution. Said 2000 subcriber x loses in masteel n hengyuan. Some subcriber should be filthy rich customer too..When u look at that, you wish you use your skills and trade secretly and silently for ownself rather than monetize it for subscription. Guess icon 8888 saw this and cancel it.
2018-03-08 14:00
nikson....if HY collapse has no lesson for you....it is because u belong to the OTB religion....too bad.
blinded by religious faith, I can't do any thing for you.
2018-03-08 21:38
Posted by cheoky > Mar 8, 2018 02:00 PM | Report Abuse
Otb got responsibility to his subcriber. Subcriber subcribe to otb service in expectation of better performance against market return. Latest result gave big lose to it's subcriber in totalilty provided the subcriber following otb proposed calls and analysis. For that, he need to give a good solution. Said 2000 subcriber x loses in masteel n hengyuan. Some subcriber should be filthy rich customer too..When u look at that, you wish you use your skills and trade secretly and silently for ownself rather than monetize it for subscription. Guess icon 8888 saw this and cancel it.
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I was in his office, I saw him writing and answering all forumers.
I want to help him to clarify the below :
1. Most of his clients did not lose a lot of money on Masteel. Most of them had made a few rounds. Even at 0.97, most of them still make a lot of money.
He agreed that the late comer will lose money.
2. Most of his clients still make money on Hengyuan. Most of them bought Hengyuan around 6, 8 and the last batch at 10.00. He told all his clients to sell after 14.68 onwards. He told all to get out at 17.48, reminded in Email and whatsapp.
He told his clients to buyback some at 16.64, 13.86 and 12.52. He instructed all his clients to use PROFIT to buy Hengyuan only. Cannot buy more than 50% of previous holding.
He agreed that the late comer will lose money.
He was very upset when the price dropped below 12.50.
2018-03-10 00:09
High Priest of the stock market my foot
More like Baby with New Toy in the treatment of stock market., earnings and PE
2018-03-10 00:45
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Interesting, Who is This lone ranger & Who is this high priest of FA & TA ? Tabik hormat to both of you from me.
2018-03-05 14:45