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2015-06-16 19:51 | Report Abuse

LordJDHighest Ok, buying starts now
16/06/2015 09:22

LordJDHighest I am buying to see for long term next quarter what will it be like
16/06/2015 09:31

Posted by Bilis Bilis > Jun 16, 2015 07:44 PM | Report Abuse X

Posted by LordJDHighest > Jun 16, 2015 09:55 AM | Report Abuse

Praise the lord!

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Posted by Bilis Bilis > Jun 16, 2015 03:14 PM | Report Abuse X

LORDdworm in the insider's stomach -- Your "MYSTERIOUS CONFIDENCE" help me seeing my way around$....1000thanks

Granted the day is NOT OVER YET.........BUT AS LONG AS IT CLOSE ABOVE 0.92....i am happy

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Credit must be given when it is due.

I was helped in decision-making at the RIGHT TIMING....
(So i will watch tomorrow UMA's reaction, if it hold 1.00, 0.95, and 0.92 i will go in again. And i think it will be good for quite a long time to come....)

So UNASHAMEDLY I will shout

Praise the lord!!!

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2015-06-16 18:41 | Report Abuse

Posted by ozzie75 > Jun 16, 2015 06:30 PM | Report Abuse

Bilis bilis: SC got the calibre to understand your proposed reply? hehehe..

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Woooo... i forgot to add 1 more line :

"We look forward to more such "beautiful" cooperation from your "alert,observant and watchful" gaji-buta staffs in the not so far future."

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2015-06-16 18:21 | Report Abuse

Bilis Bilis nich0las Oh, up got Uma, drop no Uma. I see
16/06/2015 17:40

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Co's reply to UMA? Simple!!! :

"Our trustedly hired 2nd COOK has managed to slash the price from 1.87 to 0.79 within such short (1 month ) period,so smoothly without even a SINGLE UMA. The profit-margin is so "unbearably-lucrative" that we substantial shareholders also cannot "tahan" and feel "malu" cos everytime we think of those painstakenly-cultured "loyal,faithful and obedient fundamental-believers" we finally managed to force "their VOLUNTARY sellings" thru FEAR, drop-jaws, shrunk-balls these last 4 weeks, we have nightmares and fear karma if we dont do a good rebounce by now.

The rebounce shall also allow 2nd Cook to fulfill the obligation to restitute/restore those borrowed scrips thrown out during this rewarding slash n burn period.

We hope everything shall return to "NORMAL" again when the 2nd phase of this price-chart get on smoothly without any unforseen technical hitches.

We would like to take this golden oppurtunity to thank all those who still stood by us TODAY with unwavering blind faith and steadfast loyalty in spite of such wicked and horrendous acts our 2nd Cook done to them--except for the day-traders and especially one named gameover99."

Last and not least, thanking you for shooting us an UMA ONLY-NOW.
Your patience and tolerance is greatly appreciated and forever remembered....

16/06/2015 18:09

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2015-06-16 17:24 | Report Abuse

ozzie/noman:

".......重新洗牌 (as in card game -- the re-shuffle)---
What we are witnessing is a 大洗牌 BIG reshuffle which leads to a great shakeout.....so that a "NEW BOTTOM" determined by the 2nd Cook can be established to START the 2nd Round of his card-game.
16/06/2015 04:58...."

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2015-06-16 17:13 | Report Abuse

Fardar Chye come back is for real!
16/06/2015 17:03
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Agreed. But you must have the galls,guts and balls NOT TO BE PANICKED into SELLING like the DAY-TRADERS called gameover99 cos he expect to make $$$ with NO $$$$ TO PAY at least 5 days....

There will be scary pullbacks next 4 days by the 2ND COOK to kill the DAYTRADERS....

so like our slogan says:

Remember always

1. Eyes open, Be safe, keep calm, No fear

2. Loose less ,Win more.

3. Always helpful,always contribute,always share,

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2015-06-16 17:00 | Report Abuse

ozzie75 Confident, invest
Not confident, don't invest
16/06/2015 16:50

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Not only that, you must have AT LEAST the confidence for T+4days,or 1 contango, and NOT LIKE the confidence of "free-monies" DAY-TRADERS like game99, no monies to pick up shares and expect the COOK not to slaughter you at this STAGE of HIS game (2.0) !

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2015-06-16 16:47 | Report Abuse

NOT FOR DAY-TRADERS LIKE GAMEOVER99............................... BUY BUY BUY everytime there is substantial correction!!!

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2015-06-16 16:39 | Report Abuse

Posted by alex3388 > Jun 16, 2015 04:34 PM | Report Abuse

Move Very Fast!! Buy.............................

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Be careful--if you r the DAY-TRADER like gameover99--u will be killed by the 2ND COOK.....make sure you have $$$$ to pick up if price reverse!!!

Dont be crybaby like Game99 who cant even face himself for his losses as a DAY-TRADER!!!!

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2015-06-16 16:34 | Report Abuse

Posted by gameover99 > Jun 16, 2015 04:01 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by Bilis Bilis > Jun 16, 2015 04:00 PM | Report Abuse

As Edwards and Magee remind us, selling climaxes involve a final "shaking out" of bullish holdouts.....


Bilis Bilis You can see now HOW WICKED WICKED THE last 4 weeks has been....?
16/06/2015 15:41


shake ur head la... 1.3 u buy 1.2 u buy ... 1 u sailang .....

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Compared to so many of those OLD-BULLS that paid and hold their shares for months and was WICKED SHAKEN OUT during the last 4 weeks shake-out....you as a DAY-TRADERS (who does not pay and hold the shares and expect to make $$$$ without paying and want free $$$$ in such stage of the treacherous game), you deserve the losses for being DISAGREABLE, QUARRELSOME and UGLY losers, and your mental-psychic shall be continue to be wrong from now onwards --cos DAY TRADERS precisely the 2ND COOK WANT TO KILL!!!

For your losses---

ALLAHU AKBAR

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2015-06-16 16:00 | Report Abuse

As Edwards and Magee remind us, selling climaxes involve a final "shaking out" of bullish holdouts.....


Bilis Bilis You can see now HOW WICKED WICKED THE last 4 weeks has been....?
16/06/2015 15:41

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2015-06-16 15:53 | Report Abuse

"......The first prerequisite of the selling climax is that it occurs on overwhelming volume. Edwards and Magee go so far as to say that the volume during the selling climax could easily rival that of the volume of any single day during the advance that preceded the decline.
16/06/2015 15:51,,,,"

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2015-06-16 15:51 | Report Abuse

K8ii8k ------on selling climax :

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Jun 11, 2015 06:36 PM | Report Abuse

3.。。。。。there are a few other more practical clues and cues to help spot these major market events when they happen.

What sort of clues? First, it is important to recognize that not every selling climax represents the end of a bear market phase. As Edwards and Magee remind us, selling climaxes involve a final "shaking out" of bullish holdouts, and "weak holdings usually have been shaken out long before that [bear market bottom] stage is reached." Usually, however, is not always, as those traders and investors who experienced the selling climax on September 21 (the fifth day of trading after the markets were closed due to the September 11th terrorist attacks in the US) could tell you. In many respects, September 21 was both a classic selling climax and a very atypical bear market bottom. See Figure 1.


Figure 1: DJIA. In the wake of the September 11th terrorist attacks in the US, the Dow Jones industrials saw a wave of selling in the first few days, a wave that culminated with a selling climax on September 21 that paved the way for buyers new and old.


What can we glean from this example? The first prerequisite of the selling climax is that it occurs on overwhelming volume. Edwards and Magee go so far as to say that the volume during the selling climax could easily rival that of the volume of any single day during the advance that preceded the decline.

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2015-06-16 15:43 | Report Abuse

Ravi Kumar @Bilis Bilis thanks for the tip to play Perwaja
16/06/2015 15:38

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Ravi :Seriously look at IFCAM in coming days ....BUT NOT DAY TRADES!!!(THE 2ND COOK kill day-traders)

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2015-06-16 15:41 | Report Abuse

You can see now HOW WICKED WICKED THE last 4 weeks has been....?

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2015-06-16 15:39 | Report Abuse

THE 2ND COOK is buying back now "CHEAP-CHEAP" to return all the shares borrowed (from BROKERShouseNominees-- no need direct from any substantial shareholders) and SOLD from 1.60 down to 0.80.

In a sense , it's covering a short situation....back up to 1,60

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2015-06-16 15:34 | Report Abuse

k8118k Selling climax
IFCA’s share price may have experienced a major “selling climax” on Tuesday,
after falling 50% in the past month. ..........
16/06/2015 15:27

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YES!!! the selling climax ---that is what i based on so labouriously last 3 days......but it COULD FAIL...read my posted Magee article...but as I said the LORDdworm "MYSTERIOUS CONFIDENCE" strengthen my fighting spirits this ROUND 0.2......

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2015-06-16 15:27 | Report Abuse

around 4.00-4.10 oops....... 1.00--1.10. (still paper loses)

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2015-06-16 15:26 | Report Abuse

blackul66 good, some consolation for people who bought around that range last Jan-February, at least can run without getting burn or minimal loss.
16/06/2015 15:15

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This is like my situation that i bought with all my past gain on IF : 1.30, 1.20 1.00 and today 0.80+
latest average :around 4.00-4.10.....which i shall paid and pick up......as my starting costs (hopefully price hold above 0.92) for IFCAM GAME2.0 !!!

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2015-06-16 15:14 | Report Abuse

LORDdworm in the insider's stomach -- Your "MYSTERIOUS CONFIDENCE" help me seeing my way around$....1000thanks

Granted the day is NOT OVER YET.........BUT AS LONG AS IT CLOSE ABOVE 0.92....i am happy

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2015-06-16 15:06 | Report Abuse

Sebastian Sted Power Genting casino also not so excited
16/06/2015 15:03
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Agreed. "..... no big-guys is willing to see his wealth SLASHED INTO HALF if he is NOT confident that there "IS A PLAN" to recover this "paper loss" and more..."

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2015-06-16 15:02 | Report Abuse

trap_ Where Ken got so much money buying since he never sell. Just like us buying at high price. Do we have money to buy at lower price if we never take profit?
16/06/2015 11:11

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SOLD THROUGH HIS HAND?

Ever heard of "borrowed-scripts" through brokerhouses??

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2015-06-16 14:59 | Report Abuse

Posted by LordJDHighest > Jun 16, 2015 12:27 AM | Report Abuse
"..... no big-guys is willing to see his wealth SLASHED INTO HALF if he is NOT confident that there "IS A PLAN" to recover this "paper loss" and more..."

".......4. 重新洗牌 (as in card game -- the re-shuffle)---
What we are witnessing is a 大洗牌 BIG reshuffle which leads to a great shakeout.....so that a "NEW BOTTOM" determined by the 2nd Cook can be established to START the 2nd Round of his card-game......"

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LordJDHighest Ok, buying starts now
16/06/2015 09:22

LordJDHighest I am buying to see for long term next quarter what will it be like
16/06/2015 09:31

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Your last 2 posts give added impetus n confidence to average around . 0.81/2.@9.22 am.
Last night post (which i responded above) made me feel there is a worm in the insider's stomach,better than best doctor outside (insider), ......

As long as the closing is above 0.92 today....the NEW GAME is ON.......

i will then continue with new buyings on T+4 contra.

THIS IS FOR T+4 CONTRA PLAYERS or PICK-UP

NOT FOR DAY-TRADERS!!!!
(Day-traders must know these basic n minimum difference, so stay away from this post --you follow at your own demise)

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2015-06-16 04:58 | Report Abuse

Posted by LordJDHighest > Jun 16, 2015 12:27 AM | Report Abuse

1. "....a lot of people just yelled to sell based on baseless comments, that explains the great fall, RM1.87 to RM0.88 in 3 weeks, partly with CFO thing + 1mdb + market not so well,...."

"....retailers also consists of more than 20-30% in IFCA, these portions actually contributed the fall in IFCA due to innocent fellas bought into IFCA and cut loss after hearing so many baseless comments on IFCA...."

2. "...I could easily buy much cheaper than you guys now....."

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Let me say what I want in point form:

1. Fundamentals represent a talking (selling) points or justifications for INSIDERS' pushing (or goreng) the stock price up & down i.e. for cooking the chart or at roadshows....ultimately ,it is irrelevant to me....it may be even harmful to be hooked on...

2. IFCAM's cooked-chart indicates that the 1st-round of (the 11-mths) "card-game" i.e from 20Jun2014 (0.115) or 01072014('s 0.13--many started around here) to 20May2015 (1.87) by the FIRST COOK (better sounding name =market maker) is completed.

We can get some idea of the FIRST COOK by referring back to old report that quoted the Cobra that said he regretted getting into IF too late @0.40+. We inferred from chart he "GOT OUT" around 1.40-1.50 netting himself about Rm 1.00(Sept2014-Mar/Apr2015 = 7 mths work) We should be "ABLE TO GET THIS VERIFIED" if he report this "proud" investment in his coming reports...Do this, then we can debate to get the truth...

3. The 2nd Cook took over in Apr2015 and started with pushing 1.40 to 1.87 and dump the 2.0+ million lots (absorbed or passed in open market from the 1st) onto the small punters (at around 1.60-1.80) that were taken in by all the "fundamentals-talks",GST SAAS, Main-board, 2.50=3.00.....--thereby making themselves a quick handsome 0.40 profits on the 2.0m lots at the very start of the game.... so I feel sad that in (1) you chosed to blame the "20-30% retailers". "innocent fellas" for "actually contributed for the fall"

4. 重新洗牌 (as in card game -- the re-shuffle)---
What we are witnessing is a 大洗牌 BIG reshuffle which leads to a great shakeout.....so that a "NEW BOTTOM" determined by the 2nd Cook can be established to START the 2nd Round of his card-game.

At today's 0.94-0.88,(from 1.87), it represented a gigantous wiping-off of half (of the market-cap) of the major shareholders' wealth. Anyone who disagreed with this "fricken HUGE wipe-off" of this 2ND CARD-GAME would have staged a SHOCK-RESIGNATION!!! and the "collateral damage" of selling out his major shares before the 2ND-COOK plunge the price.....this again we may verify one day when the transfer (with bursa approval?) of this shareholdings is reported.

5. on your cheaper (2) than us-guys-- i would roughly concur if the next 2 days is the reversal day.--because no big-guys is willing to see his wealth SLASHED INTO HALF if he is NOT confident that there is plan to recover this "paper loss" and more...

Otherwise ,it may be another 2 weeks of squeezing and collection at lower (pre-determined) price...

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2015-06-12 16:29 | Report Abuse

Ozzie 糟了!!老汉推车---上山有力,下山无勿力。。 (in Cantonese)

Bilis Bilis 1.24 I bought again.......
10/06/2015 16:01
Bilis Bilis tomorrow 1,11 i will buy the 3rd batch.....all my past profits on IFCAM, I sailang this time
10/06/2015 16:02
Bilis Bilis So my average this round should be 1.20+
10/06/2015 16:04

I have to re-write the following again...

HAKKA SYSTEM- Terminology (still in compilation)

" Mountain-Type PUSH " : Syndicate (that include the stock-owner + his share financiers cum brokers + brokers' research cum propagandists + MSM paid media + ghost glowing report writers cum piep-pipers GOD & GODESSES + CasinoSHARK +HAND....)that organise and push share in the form/shape/relative-size of Mountains (eg lower=Gunung Tahan,medium= Mt Kinabalu,high= Himalayas...).

Like mountain climbing, that is divided into two broad phases, an up-phase and a down-phase. And there is always the overall environment/climate (eg Euro/WS/KLSE..)to study before mounting into the up or down phase.

The Up-phase is ALWAYS easy like a breeze(the joy and fun of it always gather you much followers and adolators)......the down phase is painful like going thru circumcision (you suffer alone, swallow the pain in confinement,with nobody to show and to share).....

Mountain climbing is an extreme sport. On the down phase, the teachers/parents of Tg Katong students on the down phase of the Mt Kinabalu climb must make sure that they will never have to go thru the biggest regret of their life....

to cont

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2015-06-12 00:49 | Report Abuse

5.There is one last note before taking a look at some selling climaxes and potential selling climaxes in individual stocks. Writing in his Trading For A Living, trader and educator Alexander Elder observes, "Climax bottoms are usually retested." Again, "usually" except when they are not -- nevertheless, as we will see in some of the examples, being prepared for a test -- as well as exiting as soon as the prospective selling climax low is breached -- is an important task for anyone trying to "cash in a few days later with exceptional profits," to quote Edwards and Magee.

So -- Climax bottoms are usually retested, with exception.

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2015-06-12 00:35 | Report Abuse

Bilis Bilis Bilis Bilis ozzie75 Not necessarily so in future---if the COOK he employed (i believed Spore-based) >> bilis bilis, u arent referring to Calvin? he..he..he..
11/06/2015 20:08

ozzie --u naughty boy! u want to get me in trouble with Calvin!!

Calvin-- dont try to wear the hat--it doesnt fit you!!!
11/06/2015 23:34
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ozzie, just curious--u or any one here come in touch with any "HAND" or SYNDICATE before....?
12/06/2015 00:34

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2015-06-11 23:34 | Report Abuse

ozzie75 Not necessarily so in future---if the COOK he employed (i believed Spore-based) >> bilis bilis, u arent referring to Calvin? he..he..he..
11/06/2015 20:08

ozzie --u naughty boy! u want to get me in trouble with Calvin!!

Calvin-- dont try to wear the hat--it doesnt fit you!!!

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2015-06-11 23:00 | Report Abuse

Bilis Bilis madmoney If free should really attend IFCA AGM next Friday, at 10am, Dewan Berjaya, Bukit Kiara Equestrian & Country Resort, Jalan Bukit Kiara, Off Jalan Damansara, 60000 Kuala Lumpur. Can address any question or doubt you have towards Ken Yong ...
11/06/2015 18:49
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Anyone who r stuck with IF shares and worry they can get out or not?----

A good question to get DEFINATE ANSWERS from each n every directors/major shareholders :

1. Any of the shareholders/directors having "single-collateral" share-financing/ margin accounts with any bank/brokerhouses in Msia or O/seas for IFCAM shares "aggregate" exceeding 5million for loan exceeding 5million?

2. Has any shareholders/directors pledged their shares as single-collateral for "3rd-party" shares-margin accounts in Msia/Spore/HK/Oseas for aggregate of 5million shares or 5million$?

There is a lots of inside/interesting that can happen in (2).....

If you see the directors hesitated and start whispering to company legal/finance man, and give you some wishy-washy answer......you know you must probe further....
11/06/2015 20:00
11/06/2015 20:01

3. Any of the above margin accounts experienced margin (top-up) call(s) or forced sellings of collaterals especially since 21May2015 todate?

4 At 1.20 listed price is there any said accounts having margin-call-trigger-price greater than 60% now?

coming back to IFCAM's present (price) predicaments -- if any of the above answers is unfavourable --i.e if any of the directors/major shareholders has experienced or is NEAR margin-call or force-selling--we as small shareholders ARE FCUK and ALL BETS ARE OFF!!!

No amount of company's good fundamentals (whether past,present or future) will save the company
or save us! the Senior Managers will be worry sick every day/week/month about their shares to be dump indiscriminately into market dragging down further price--the self-feeding vicious cycle that infect everybody.

Also No amount of chart technical or RConcrete support levels can hold since it is from the major shareholders-u know they have unending supplies of shares that they got @0.10? 20?50?80?

So,All BETS R OFF --- another one the regulars here r familiar with is the HIRED HAND that is running the price -charts now.....my nasty suspicion has been that : the HAND does NOT want the price go highest, conversely want the price lower, and want to ffff the major shareholders from behind, and thus harm us....

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2015-06-11 20:01 | Report Abuse

madmoney If free should really attend IFCA AGM next Friday, at 10am, Dewan Berjaya, Bukit Kiara Equestrian & Country Resort, Jalan Bukit Kiara, Off Jalan Damansara, 60000 Kuala Lumpur. Can address any question or doubt you have towards Ken Yong ...
11/06/2015 18:49
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Anyone who r stuck with IF shares and worry they can get out or not?----

A good question to get DEFINATE ANSWERS from each n every directors/major shareholders :

1. Any of the shareholders/directors having "single-collateral" share-financing/ margin accounts with any bank/brokerhouses in Msia or O/seas for IFCAM shares "aggregate" exceeding 5million for loan exceeding 5million?

2. Has any shareholders/directors pledged their shares as single-collateral for "3rd-party" shares-margin accounts in Msia/Spore/HK/Oseas for aggregate of 5million shares or 5million$?

There is a lots of inside/interesting that can happen in (2).....
If you see the directors hesitated and start whispering to company legal/finance man, and give you some wishy-washy answer......you know you must probe further....
11/06/2015 20:00

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2015-06-11 19:09 | Report Abuse

Bilis Bilis madmoney He should already be laughing to the bank, he owns a big portion of the company, his wealth is already 12x of last year, he is worth at least 200 million
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Not necessarily so in future---if the COOK he employed (i believed Spore-based) played him out and keep on plunging the shares prices --keep on making him or major shareholders facing margin-calls and forthnightly margin- forced-sellings--exactly like KwongOnn previously--how long can he last? 3 months?

I believed the IFCA major-shareholders is facing a very crucial moment now --this 1.20 is very critical that they fight to hold it up AS FAR AS POSSIBLE to forestall any further forced-sellings NEXT WEEK. As Edwards&Magee said " ..This process is progressive -- feeding upon itself, so to speak -- with each wave of forced sales jeopardizing another lot of margined accounts, until at last millions of shares are tossed overboard, willy-nilly, in a final cleanup. ....."
11/06/2015 19:07

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2015-06-11 18:50 | Report Abuse

4. Another prerequisite has to do with the notion of the decline. By definition, selling climaxes can occur only after some period of previous selling. This previous selling, or prevailing downtrend, is what sets the stage for the "feeding upon itself" phenomena that Edwards and Magee wrote about. Noting the chart of the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) back in the late summer and early autumn of 2001, it was clear that as the DJIA broke beneath support at the end of August, that break was part of a broader downtrend that began in the spring. Even after September 11, it took four days of relentless selling before sellers exhausted themselves on the fifth day.

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2015-06-11 18:36 | Report Abuse

3.。。。。。there are a few other more practical clues and cues to help spot these major market events when they happen.

What sort of clues? First, it is important to recognize that not every selling climax represents the end of a bear market phase. As Edwards and Magee remind us, selling climaxes involve a final "shaking out" of bullish holdouts, and "weak holdings usually have been shaken out long before that [bear market bottom] stage is reached." Usually, however, is not always, as those traders and investors who experienced the selling climax on September 21 (the fifth day of trading after the markets were closed due to the September 11th terrorist attacks in the US) could tell you. In many respects, September 21 was both a classic selling climax and a very atypical bear market bottom. See Figure 1.


Figure 1: DJIA. In the wake of the September 11th terrorist attacks in the US, the Dow Jones industrials saw a wave of selling in the first few days, a wave that culminated with a selling climax on September 21 that paved the way for buyers new and old.


What can we glean from this example? The first prerequisite of the selling climax is that it occurs on overwhelming volume. Edwards and Magee go so far as to say that the volume during the selling climax could easily rival that of the volume of any single day during the advance that preceded the decline.

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2015-06-11 18:28 | Report Abuse

2. It is hard to overstate the value of Edwards and Magee's book when reading through chapters like "The Selling Climax." An instructional guide, a market history, and a tem plate for sound trading, Technical Analysis Of Stock Trends was, interestingly, one of the few sources I could find that spent a good deal of time dealing with the market phenomenon known as the selling climax.

Edwards and Magee begin the discussion with a look back to the "bad old days" of bear raids and market manipulation, when the absence of short-selling restrictions and a more casual attitude about insider trading made classic selling climaxes relatively more frequent.

However, as they note, "margin calls and forced selling will, of course, always exist as a market factor so long as stocks can be bought on margin, and will come into play whenever prices drop extensively following a spree of public buying." And while Edwards and Magee suggest that one helpful way of recognizing selling climaxes might be to "have friends in the street ... keep you informed on the condition of margin accounts and the amount of necessitous selling to be expected," there are a few other more practical clues and cues to help spot these major market events when they happen.

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2015-06-11 17:53 | Report Abuse

Bilis Bilis Fardar Chye bilis bilis.. we are awaiting ur return.. hope u will be back soon... huat huat huat for all u guys here ya... whether u all are align or against IFCA..

Posted by Bilis Bilis > Jun 11, 2015 04:06 PM | Report Abuse

Fardar----my favourite one----u keeping well---especially our bilis camp?

Be-careful of IFCAM==the major owners are facing life & death--with shares position---we r here trying to T+ next 4,hoping to make some hatya $$

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Re : IFCAM ---we are waiting and watching for the "make or break" moment for IFCAM now @1.20

(which are not apparent to the non-insiders as yet,until there is a public announcement) but we must do our own home work and our own learning, so let me share this excellent teaching article here,para by para, with you and others, it may be benefial and educational in the long term :

WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR? :-------

1 ) WHEN SELLERS SELL OUT

Writing about "The Selling Climax" in Technical Analysis Of Stock Trends, authors Robert Edwards and John Magee observe that:

Most true Selling Climaxes, if not all, have been produced by distress selling ... They have come at the end of rapid and comprehensive declines which exhausted the margin reserves of many speculators and necessitated the dumping of their shares at whatever the market would bring. This process is progressive -- feeding upon itself, so to speak -- with each wave of forced sales jeopardizing another lot of margined accounts, until at last millions of shares are tossed overboard, willy-nilly, in a final cleanup.

Bad? Good? Indifferent? For Edwards and Magee, it depends on where you stand as a trader.

Such is a Selling Climax in which the total turnover may exceed any single day's volume during the previous upswing. It is a harvest time for traders who, having avoided the bullish infection at the top of the market, have funds in reserve to pick up stocks available at panic prices.

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2015-06-11 16:54 | Report Abuse

Game99 : unhappy and grumblesome and DISAGREEABLE just because i asked you to learn/study those important investing knowledge ---all for your own good?

is that how you treat others who asked you to learn up/study back in kampung....anyway it will be highly unbecoming of me to quarrel with you.....

But certain important THINGS if unclear to some, can & mayd be explained:

1: 4pm! 4pm! 4pm! :........

2. Major shareholders "life & dead: next crucial 30 days :....

3. All the "promised futures/profits/fundamentals/AGM/2,50/3.00 and what happen to them now :

4. THE HAND/COOK/SHARK : how they will be managing the show :after the forced selling on MAJOR SHAREHOLDERS on May25 & 10June ...

5 .


You need to be patient if you want the full analysis....

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2015-06-11 16:06 | Report Abuse

Fardar----my favourite one----u keeping well---especially our bilis camp?

Be-careful of IFCAM==the major owners are facing life & death--with shares position---we r here trying to T+ next 4,hoping to make some hatya $$$$

but go study other counters good for next week (good for europe trip):

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2015-06-11 15:52 | Report Abuse

game ----if u want to sat bye-bye---no need 1.23 lah... they will snatch it away and back to 1,21....put lah at least 1.26 ===3 more cents for your nasi lemak....better still fri-mon 1.4X and... (secret!! for now) the guru know he buy up all the forced-sellings....
he is a 200% copycat ..

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2015-06-11 15:44 | Report Abuse

Posted by cheated > Jun 11, 2015 03:38 PM | Report Abuse

Can claim your loss from Alpha Trader? Where is he now?

Posted by gameover99 > Jun 11, 2015 03:38 PM | Report Abuse

haih... no fun... hiding already????

positive divergence.......... @ 1.2 bbbbbbb

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Posted by Bilis Bilis > Jun 11, 2015 03:39 PM | Report Abuse X

4pm......4pm...............4pm....

dont go to toilet!!!

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I bet with you after 4pm ,even on a slightest rebounce , he will snake out from the cobra hole...

but i still have 3 long uncompleted parts on "INVESTMENT MORALS" waiting for him!!!!

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2015-06-11 15:39 | Report Abuse

4pm......4pm...............4pm....

dont go to toilet!!!

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2015-06-11 15:37 | Report Abuse

Posted by alibabacoming > Jun 11, 2015 03:24 PM | Report Abuse

bilis bilis, can't deny this is very tempting, ding ding, may try luck at 1.21 hhahahahahahah

Posted by alibabacoming > Jun 11, 2015 03:27 PM | Report Abuse

after i calculate my risk management, still think that not worth to go in 1.21, too high risk FOR ME.

you guys enjoy ding dong ding dong.May god always beside ebalcus or what albacus.

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Ali : 4pm is the most dangerous period---T+4 everyday's---if 1.20 canhold--you know sthg impt is happening without our knowledge---at least for the next 5 days......

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2015-06-11 15:21 | Report Abuse

Posted by alibabacoming > Jun 11, 2015 03:14 PM | Report Abuse

bilis call 1.21 is not that bad, but need clooose monitoring the screen, worth it?

at least he will ask for cut after 1.19 breached.

just scare sometimes you can't even have time to cut haha.

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ali : u r a more sensible reader and watcher and also player---tabik!!

one more thing ---must read it with my past post----i.e. i ve never being bullish after the 1.80+---its always dead cat bounce $$$$ trading!!!!1

Come lah, ali , try 1 time 1,21 for a hatya trip....?! no harm wan....come lah...

TRADE AT OWN RISK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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2015-06-11 15:12 | Report Abuse

Posted by Bilis Bilis > Jun 11, 2015 03:10 PM | Report Abuse X

Posted by gameover99 > Jun 11, 2015 02:18 PM | Report Abuse

where is bilis bilis??? konon positive divergence...

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U want a 5-days trip to Hatyai (not Jln Alor)

1.21 is a second chance for you....

Halo when u ask that question means you dont even read it up & learn it up on P.I,---you r a very dangerous investors---no wonder this day the Alpha white-lie 's office jam-packed with disatisfied clients complaining the wives he recommended all cannot deliver (give birth to baby)

Make sure you do a deep deep study yourself.......

(cut when 1.19 breached)

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2015-06-11 05:31 | Report Abuse

to cont soon on ""I was your leader leading you when price was 0.40 you know?".......................

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2015-06-11 05:21 | Report Abuse

contd

For Karma --Why?

1. Just browse through the last 2 week (since May25plunge@1.30) many-many posted sufferings by pitiful small-punters here who have being lured/lied/conned to "buy 1.80/1.87 now to sell 1,97/2.0?/2.50/3,00 soon) and suffering financial pains now and anxiously waiting for a way out earliest b4 market crash!!! When?--only our GOD/MASTER/GURU know when---but he is not telling.

2. The " Climax-of Sell-Off" VOLUME (that normally accompany the end of price-slump and thus reversal) may or may not have actualised--and thus the humongous financial pains and sufferings induced and caused by our GOD/MASTER/GURU can drag on endlessly--but he is not telling.

".... There is no greater symbol of a change of trend than a selling climax. And while not every crescendo is a climax, observant and patient traders will be able to turn the occasional market crash into some real cash. ..."----
--------http://traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/2005/02/Charting/Charting.html

All those who posted recently that are suffering now because they were lured into FALSE complacency and blind faith of the "1,97/2.00/2.50/3.00 by our beloved GOD/MASTER/GURU "--MUST SPEND ALL YOUR TIME TODAY TO READ/LEARN UP THE PRESCRIBED LINKS--so that you learn up yourself and be smart enough not to fall into this CON-MAN's sweet-talk forever and ever again!!!

REMEMBER BILIS-BILIS : Those who cannot remember the past (cheat) are condemned to repeat it (suffer again , again,,,,,,and again........and again...............) until you learn the skill and become wiser yourself--wiser than the conned artist/remiser.

We bilis here learned it and become wiser....so we DID NOT fall into the TRAP and FALSE HOPE propagandised by our beloved GOD/MASTER/GURU and his sidekick the Jln Alor nancee...you can check all the posts here that we have CONSISTENTLY AND RATIONALLY CHALLENGE/CONTRADICT these two with GROUNDS/ISSUES/Qns--did you find them justifying and answer DIRECTLY to our points/issues raised---NO! they twist & turn with the double-forked tongues only a cobra has---and keep harping copying MADHATHIR-STYLE---"I was your leader leading you when price was 0.40 you know?"

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2015-06-11 05:20 | Report Abuse

Lesson from 25May2015 & 10June2015 : Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it--Churchill

idahow69 "............... Insider close to the major shareholders are also selling. ........"
09/06/2015 15:59

hockhuat " later in noon may drop further because a lot ........... margin call "
10/06/2015 14:47
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What idahow/hockhuat accidentally/unwittingly "leaked" or "spilled" in the morning about the margin forced-sellings ,we missed at our own expense.

He might be the perpetual pain-in-the-arrs for some die-hard-hypocrites here--but the "margin forced-sellings" is the most-TELLING and PRICE-SENSITIVE (of all the underlying cause) of all the things ever said the last 5 days since IFCAM price just STEPPED DOWN average 10cents per day from 1.50 -->1.40-->1.30-->1.20 (check your intraday chart).

Astute market-watchers will agree that for such an established well-loved (bloomberg/cnbc-promoted-world-best) counter to suffer each "30minutes" straight drop of 5 cents with volume 40,000-100,000 lots with such regularity within a single day CAN ONLY BE DUE TO INDISCRIMATE DUMPINGS--and after a sharp drop from 1.87 to 1.30 (accompanied all the way down by our beloved cobra-tongue white-lie GURU&MASTER) within a VERY SHORT PERIOD OF 3 WKS--by the major share-financiers for MAJOR shareholders.

After the 1st SHOCK DUMPING on 25May prompted me and my group to postulate "one step further that it is going to happen again 1.40 to 1.30 to 1.20 soon" . So today we were all over the places being hit with 1,30 ---1.20 "give-to-the-buyer trades".

8 out of 12 of us that deal direct thru the remisiers from 5 different brokerhouses (I deal online) all came back to me with this startling confirmations:

1. IFCAM 1,20---1.24 seller ---ALL FROM the SAME "CIIIMMMMBBBBB"
2. IFCAM-WA 1.10--1.14 seller ---ALL FROM the SAME "HLHLHLBBBBB"

(these above info are NO secrets--seller' code r PUBLIC info--open to all those "remisier with brain and conscience" to check and to provide as useful info or evidence if they truly have bought as claimed).

With today #1 top volume looser being IFCAM,and no other counters suffer same fate---it cannot be margin forced-selling on miscellaneous clients .

With the single-broker-dumping on single counter (no rumour/news that IF being designated ) each house (1 & 2 above) MUST be doing their respective forced-selling on a "single-collateral-margin-account " AND NOT BY VOLUNTARY SELLINGS BY MULTIPLE (NORMALLY VERY SMART) FORIEGN FUNDS ON our well-loved IFCAM.

ALL the fore-going points can easily be affirmed by any dealing-room-boys of the 2 said houses--if they are so karma-proned (why?) to solve the mystery.....just post an ananymous post here in 13--

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2015-06-10 17:35 | Report Abuse

Bilis Bilis Noman/ozzie :" technical : the 3.30pm @1.20, is bullish divergence."

sign to bargain hunting...
10/06/2015 16:54

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IF next 2 days BOUNCE do materialise ,you know for sure that this BULLISH DIVERGENCE works in KLSE, even in very scary price-crash period :

Check you chart : as the IFCAM price crashed down 09Jun 9am@ to 1.34, to09/06 4pm@1.30 and to 10/06 3.00pm 1.20,(lower and lower price bottoms) the stochastic (slow STO 14K 3D) rise respectively i.e 0,10,20.(indicator bottoms move higher and higher) .......

That's bullish divergence,that's how i have been trained that price work in the CasinoKLSE....
See whether noman's charts show the same scenario...the last 2 days...

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2015-06-10 17:04 | Report Abuse

Alpha Trader Bilis said follow him and when i call sell just buy, his followers just cursed him like hell, i grabbed tonnes from his followers today, if bilis is right, do opposite of alpha trader, that means you sell now cause i bought and bought just now
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You chicken-shit WHITE-LIER,you OREDI lost all your remnant creditabilty TODAY,....you trying to savage some of our buttock to repair your ugly pimp face when u see price rebound .....every body can read what you posted earlier today against my buy-call.....you shameless cuun....you twist and turn your tongue worst than a cobra in a day.......go back to your jln alor hole and stop shaming your parents....for the meagre commissions you managed to con and cheat your pitiful clients!!!!!!

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2015-06-10 16:54 | Report Abuse

Noman/ozzie :" technical : the 3.30pm @1.20, is bullish divergence."

sign to bargain hunting...

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2015-06-10 16:50 | Report Abuse

1.29! 1.29! 1.29! is enough......

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2015-06-10 16:48 | Report Abuse

sold=scold