Besides all that concerns on raw materials, sales strategy or production...actually the most crucial is the driver of the vehicle. The board or directors and management team are the most important. They are the only ones to make changes, steering directions and managing the companies from A to Z. If u have an incompetent team, there goes the company down the drain. This is what actually happens to Evergreen. Years of MASSIVE CAPEX but still unable to improve the overall results or earnings or profits. Still unclear to your brain? U must be brainless.

If u want to buy a share based on NTA for its undervalued metric then u can actually buy those companies similar to such condition but are using assets for turnover or investments. Evergreen does not necessarily utilize its own assets optimally to earn. There is such a distinctive difference. If Evergreen is such a fundamentally strong company, its share price won't be descending as such. What are the FA that these salesman possess that it cannot matched on the share price performance while all FA I mentioned are inclined to it quite obviously, right?

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2017/07/08/all-eyes-on-how-lotte-chemical-will-perform-after-relisting/

Demand not good for Lotte shares. That is why offered price reduced.

Dolly's FA not good. This is why u wonder how he can be a tour guide to bring u all to Holland endlessly. Look at Evergreen's share price and u can know lol

If u follow long enough, u will notice that this Dolly's FA is not good. What kind of stupid fundamentalist will defend those badly performing shares with changed fundamentals? The real skill is to spot and understand when is the tide and trend of a particular company has changed.

So what makes u think Prlexus as a contract manufacturer for big brands from overseas will not be REPLACEABLE? Is it not susceptible to currency exchange rates? What makes u think Nike won't choose another contract manufacturer in other cheaper countries like Vietnam, Sri lanka, Bangladesh or Cambodia? Didn't u go to any shops and see that the labels of Nike shoes or apparels showing that it's MADE IN BANGLADESH, SRI LANKA, VIETNAM, etc. instead of MALAYSIA?

Fact remains a reality. It's just u cannot accept it when the facts do not favour to your objectives. Prlexus share price fallen so much does not mean it's a bargain good buy. When u spotted a SIGNIFICANT fall in profits is when the tide has changed and the obvious trend has emerged unless the next few quarter results show improvements.

Don't worry. When its next qtr result comes out...it will send the share price down a lot as expected. If u think holding even lower price will be ok then think again....Evergreen amassed so much debts currently stood at RM 207,069,000 can it even afford to give u dividends going forward while its profits keep falling and fallen even half?

Read this subject matter....it tells u already it may be subject to stabilizing actions by Maybank meaning u can expect its share price on debut to FALL further loh. Why salesman still tried to sell u their weak advice to buy? LMAO

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/maybank-lotte-chemical-titan-may-be-subject-stabilising-action

Read this subject matter....it tells u already it may be subject to stabilizing actions by Maybank meaning u can expect its share price on debut to FALL further loh. Why salesman still tried to sell u their weak advice to buy? LMAO

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/maybank-lotte-chemical-titan-may-be-subject-stabilising-action

So many problems even before IPO. Do u expect the best out of it?

So many problems even before IPO. Do u expect the best out of it?

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2017/07/08/how-the-lotte-ipo-is-put-on-track-for-listing/

Supply is crushing all o

I said oil crisis is happening mah....look comes out in news lot http://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2017/07/08/oil-prices-drop-3-percent-on-rising-global-supplies/

Suntze, having confidence but lack of proven improvement in earnings or profits will still drag down share price.

I thought a charxiubao's concern is only about to be eaten or not? No takers? Lmao

This probability don so SinKaLan lah. Cannot understand fundamental trend and Bising for what? This another Holland monkey making a sperm count of his own. LMAO

Skliew has no dignity loh. Decided and announced something but retract his statements. No honour person LOL this is how to spot a two-headed snake! so his words cannot be trusted anymore loh LMAO

Monkey Jiau still don't know where is Oil heading to? When it starts then u remember what I said loh.

This probability has a lot of mani inside him begging to release that is why he's so angry at all times? LMAO

That is why u all have shallow mind loh. I said bumiputra run mah. In my context it means it's highly political linked company. Where got racist? LMAO

That is why I say u bodoh loh. U think low gearing is safe zone? WHEN IT STARTS TO INCREASE GEARING, WHAT IS THE DEBTS LEVEL GOING TO BE? USE YOUR HEAD LOH. THAT IS WHY I SAID EVERGREEN's DEBTS IS SHAKING OFF ALL INVESTORS FROM INVESTING INTO IT. LMAO

MDF is not good business anymore mah. To make MDF, u need MORE HARDWOOD than the abundantly available softwood or wood residues! If MDF is good business then Evergreen does not need to RESTART its particleboard division and try its luck into RTA lah. It abandoned its particleboard for many years mah.

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ELECT 1ST PLACE B4 MORE HIGHER STANDARD MAH....!!
NOW NEW HIGHER STANDARD OR NEW BEST PRACTICE JUST FOLLOW LOH...!!

This is no standard and no quality loh. If u co-owned a bank, can u let your son go inside the bank's vault? That is thievery mah. Next people realize and suspicious of him and complaint then you quickly ask your son Henry comes back out? Dodgy and suspicious mah. Damages have been done loh. Let a sneaky little thief inside the vault for what? Could be the heist of the century siphoning money out of Evergreen through no other easier way than CAPEX loh. Just sub-contract some works or ordering machines from overseas or somewhere and inflated the bills. Easy peasy money for the Kuo family loh. LMAO

Your rocket is heading into the abyss LMAO

Pathetic salesman runs out of excuses or valid reasons to defend Prlexus until they have to say shariah-compliant? WTF? How's more pathetic can u get?

Such an abrupt collapse of the share price may mean that its fundamentals are changing towards the negative side. Fallen share price does not mean it's a bargain to buy into. It may mean troubles ahead.

Maybank: Lotte Chemical Titan 'may be subject to stabilising action'
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/maybank-lotte-chemical-titan-may-be-subject-stabilising-action

Sure bad opening on the listing day........let's bet!

Serba Dinamik is 100% run by bumiputra. U know what it means, right?

With the outlook of the O&G sector like that shitty. This is a timebomb!

SINKING into the ABYSS loh.....salesman took a deep diving? LMAO

It's true also mah. Evergreen's debts is the HIGHEST among all peers and competitors totaling RM 207,069,000 !! Only servicing the bank interests also enough headache.

RM 207,069,000 x 6% = RM 12,424,140 banks interests to be serviced annually

Evergreen needs to pay RM 1,035,345 MONTHLY JUST TO SERVICE BANK INTERESTS. WOAH!!!

Not correct loh. Then why they elect Henry S Kuo "in the first place" into the audit committee if you claimed that Evergreen has good corporate governance and it does not have conflicts of interests? You misinterpret loh, stockraider. LMAO

Seriously Evergreen has been spending on CAPEX for many years in multiple of tens of millions to hundreds of millions recently. SO that was YEARS already mah. How is the company unable to even lift up earnings and profits? Instead, its profitability has been on the downtrend as well together with its share price. Do a cross-checking to see it. People say see it to believe it!

Fire sales now? Does that mean everything must be sold out a.s.a.p?

Full time salesman job is hard work lol. It plunged to new low now.....

U just key in "oil price" in Google and that gives u all these NEGATIVE news without any positive news at all. That's how u can tell what is the foreseeable future of oil price and basically the O&G future! Why is this stupid salesman named "probability" is telling lies about it? LMAO must be stuck in it as well.

Oil prices will remain flat for foreseeable future, Deloitte forecasts
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/deloitte-forecast-oil-prices-1.4190583

Two big things are getting in the way of OPEC's scheme to boost oil prices, says Dan Yergin
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/06/shale-and-rising-production-thwart-opec-plans-to-boost-oil.html

Oil prices are sliding
http://www.businessinsider.my/oil-price-july-7-brent-and-wti-falling-on-oversupply-fears-2017-7/?r=UK&IR=T

The Global Oil Demand Driver That Is Being Ignored
http://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Renewable-Energy/The-Global-Oil-Demand-Driver-That-Is-Being-Ignored.html

Oil prices slump over 1 percent on rise in U.S. output
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-oil-idUSKBN19S08X

What is the main selling point of PetronM? Is it any better than its competitors like Petdag, Shell, Bhp, Caltex, etc.? Woah.....so many competitors in Malaysia retail pump stations. Not too saturated meh?

Share price fallen so much does not mean it's a bargain. Instead it may mean its fundamentals have changed with real qtr result showing the weakest in all recent 25 quarters' lowest. Often people had the wrong ideas of bargain to buy in.

Rubber companies? U wrong channel and wrong fact? Did u calculate the years of CAPEX spent and those massive capex still ongoing without any earnings or profits lifted up. These shows very INEFFECTIVE and INEFFICIENT management team.

Worry not that Henry S Kuo as the third generation of the controlling shareholders Kuo family is actually residing in USA and he's not involved in the business. His recent resignation from the audit committee is showing some questionable suspicions. COuld this be a way they siphoned money out of the company and left the company with MASSIVE DEBTS?

You should say the real true facts that Evergreen has the HIGHEST DEBTS among its peers with RM 207,069,000 not a small amount. In the recent qtr report, this debts amount just increased another RM 1.812m more while cash reserve is down -15%! Why not u highlight these real facts instead? Don't try to say I manipulate these info again. Read every single bit of it from all news and reports.

Collapsed already mah. Now u full time salesman in Prlexus. LMAO

Dolly_Chai2 will be the first to not only pee but bombed the toilet lol

stockraider, u speak of Evergreen's RTA and its particleboard so highly but u have ZERO information on its RTA.

As a reminder to you, Evergreen has actually abandoned its particleboard segment long ago and now then it restarted it? Probably not doing well with MDF? lol

These salesman will just sell u a short period of hope and that's all they tend to do best. If Evergreen is such a solid investment, its share price will not have DESCENDED to such state. It's just funny that salesman always claimed themselves as brilliant but it's quite obvious to be the opposite based on actual events. LMAO

Lowest profitability in the most recent 25 quarters. If that doesn't send shivers down to your spine, you're just not cautious enough when the downtrend is dragging it down for a long time.

This salesman keeps selling without knowing he's going to fall into abyss soon

EVENING 5: Lotte cuts IPO price to RM6.50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PERdXiLW0RQ

Very bad following on Lotte. IPO price is slashed! Use ur head

http://www.reuters.com/article/malaysia-ipo-lotte-chemical-idUSL3N1JU2L2

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/lotte-chemical-ipo-retail-portion-undersubscribed

Is digging out the major problems with Serba Dinamik. Stay tune.....

Stockraider has no info the those questions? Does that mean he blindly kneel down and pray everyday for HOPE that its RTA business will ever take-off???