Now u all understand why I have to have a proper agreement from a coyote cangkul

Funny Hafiz cut and paste a time and date of his comment after my response......funny funny....he predicted my question?

My England must be bad if what u meant is as below...ok we will use the price after the bonus for the 2 ref price....bye cangkul



Hafiz Millip
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Posted by Hafiz Millip > Aug 31, 2013 07:06 PM | Report Abuse

As for Huayang, you can include the bonus issue into initial share purchase...stock pick remain...

Ifs ok if u cannot understand the war and implication of oil and gas price or Russia in this rounds of affair or......Huayang if cannot agree to wait, we will pit the 2 only based on below 1 to 5 and will be final


Tan KW's Portfolio: Stock Pick Challenge 2013 2H - OTB
Aug 30, 2013 04:07 PM | Report Abuse

1. First to 30% wins.
2. End date = 31/12/2013
3 Umpire Tan KW
4. First to 30% shall prevail over the end date
5. The ref price shall start base on closing price
6. Total 3 counters shall be competed by 2/9/2013

Do u undertand bonus dilution before u comment cangkulman ..price witl be diluted also....

To cangkulman s comment below, I would be cautious of Skpetro.....war looming.....show what kind of thought he put in to his counter choice......lol


Hafiz Millip
Blog: Stock Pick and Trading Challenge 2013 2H for i3 members
Aug 31, 2013 06:51 PM | Report Abuse

Inwest88...Saturn stok picks are Tropiacana, Huayang and E&O...all property stocks...not a wise picks in my opinion coz gave up oil and gas sector...putting all his rotten eggs inside one basket...Tan KW, can you help create Saturn portfolio....thanks...let the game begin...

If hafiz cannot wait for Huayang, I will change the countr or just 2 counters....pls answer kayu

Thanks Inwest....I am not playing trading as its not stock pick...

Me and cangkulman hafiz is purely
1) Tropicana ( ref price 1.64) vs Favco (ref price 2.88)
2) E&O (ref price 1.97) vs Gtronic ( ref price 2.63)
3) Huayang ( to agree after Bonus) vs Skpetro ( ref follow date of Huayang)

End of story....got balls we play as above and answer on Huayang question....

Hafiz answer on Huayang first....whether u can wait for the Bonus first.....

Yes he did, but he refuse to commit on point 1 to 6 and my question on Huayang also he did not answe. Because its 4 mths competition I will pit all on property......

Cangkulman keeps going round and round like a possess cangkul......

Tan KW my only competition is Hafiz as per counter stated provided he agrees to 1 to 6 point.

Alamak why so quiet from the cangkulman?

If he agrees 1 to 6, then we don't need the system. We only need to agree and agree also on ref price like for Tropicana and Favco. In place of Huayang, I choose E&O against his Skpetro......agree hafiz?

See how Hafiz says Okay below to my question on points 1 to 6 but continue with his rant ...in arguing. My question are not even answered yet.......


Posted by Hafiz Millip > Aug 31, 2013 06:32 PM | Report Abuse

Okay...between Saturn and myself will be buy and hold till the end..Saturn, already choose Tropiacana and Hua Yang...waiting for his last stock pick. Inwest88..appreciate your help to equally divide Saturn stock selections...this serve as proof to everybody how serious we are in fair game play...

Cangkul hands, are for farmers and they can talk to my feet ....hahahhaha

If u cannot wait Huayang, I will pit another for third choice lor......15 ppls who participate, do they u debts and the complexities or not? I don't see contribution from u on the fine tuning I assume ur trading or lack of it for. To comment....lol

Hafiz read first before u comment on utterly nothing....

For ur info Huayang going thru Bonus.......if u can agree to take new ref price after bonus to pit the second In its space I will put in another property E&O vs Ur choice Gtronic or Skpetro......again when lose pls don't make excuses......

After win d also don't know....kakakakaka

Hafiz it's up to u to agree only mah....u don't need others I hope

For a cangkul, I don't I tend to change.....will continue on the side lor ok.....lol as long as u agree on 1 to 6

After Hafiz end up buying ,my stocks how during trade.....? Kakakakaka

Yeap that's what I thought.....if the argument is to have a real scenario, my answer is its not possible and it does not meet the title of stock pick.

U deerstalker = understand

Aiya...this is the first comment from Hafiz that I agree.....must buy 4 d now

As I said....will be chaotic. Not to mentioned a lot will argue. For those who have done many buy sell within T+3 would u deerstalker d what I mean. We are not here to promote those who have more time to trade vs those who don't. We are still taking stock pick I hope

Of course this is what Hafiz want....lol

Tan KW,
This is not a stock pick, while we are at trade pick, why don't you allow change of pick also during the game as its also real scenario........then this will become chaotic and we will all be wastingi our time.

Static is the only way to go as all else can be manipulated....

Tan KW, you want the winner to be base on speculative or you want a winner with the right pick to prove a point? We have 4 mths in this game we should play it as is.

Stock watch, 30% is the minimum.....you cannot set too high because the challenge is up to Dec 31 only. As I mention normally 50% is base on Buy call by investment house which means 12 mths and above whereas trading buy is more closer with 3 mths and above.

Here we are talking strategy to play the 4 mths game.......those I have for mid term does not fit in here also.

Tan KW, then u are playing to 1 section of the game which is traders game, not the mid buyer.
A stock pick is exactly what it is suppose to be, picking a stock that can perform above avg ( using the 30%) or continuous performance ( using end date 31/12 as deadline)

If you add trading to the equation, you are saying forget stock pick and use trade pick. If so then FA and even play ( where analysis of income or project for the company) can be thrown out. It doesn't mean anything any ore. Wonder why OTB change the 30% agreed earlier....?

We have already seen, OTB stocks is base on charts, without characteristic. Of the company......Liihen is a good example. I have already mention 3 furniture companies which got into trouble with Bursa.

I am not criticizing his pick but I see the stock behavior and Managment as equally important.....

Tan KW, as I already said, trading really does not pit skills to pick here with the many example I have shared.
Another being the time we spent.....assuming if u allow trading, we have to constantly be playing instead of letting the stocks work. So then if playing trading why need FA. That's a traders game buy and sell and not a stock pick per say. If OTB is confident in his pick but not confident his pick can weather the storm of crisis, you cannot fault others for picking a stock that can right?

I would disagree without the 30% .....if want to reduce, I can agree but outside that its not a real scenario if I can pick a supper stock. We know to go 50% is a buy stock and not trading stock. .....what we are intending to show is the strategy of stock picking over 4 mths . This is a trading buy type scenario.
Take for example if a a stock performs very well all the way till Dec 20 amt more than 30% and drops to 10% above buying price, the pick cannot be defaulted....if u say 10% then I agree nothing special and can be archive very often but 30 or 25% I see it fair to close the game early!

Oh I forgot....must have ...?
For those who have seen what the cangkulman looks like pls correct my picture.....

Lol.....and below is cangkul......aka hafiz....

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I will give u another example.......assuming Mr OTB pick stock X at ref price rm1 and base on his charts is able to do a 50% hike ie to RM.1.50. Should I fault him if he does rm 1.40? Answer is no right.....to mitigate that I propose a 30% as its not easy to achieve and same time it gives leverage to choice os stocks to choose

My message is consistent......some pick stocks base on FA, some on TA, some on sentiment, some on characteristics, some on speculation......or some on a mix. If Hafiz know why he is picking his stock to make money, then that his ability similarly hitting 30%

Inwest, reason for first to 30% is to prove the stock pick itself. On a normal stock pick, you would sell at 30% wouldn't u? Whereas the end of the year if it does not hit 30% would mean the result sentiment and achievement after the last financial result is shared in Nov or Dec. I believe most would have been shared on November for July to Sep result. .....btw if the pick is so strong as to hit 30% why not....it shows capability to pick stock on potential.....

Ask Hafiz, condition 1 to 6 agree or not ?? I will put in last choice once agree....

Inwest , I will agree if there is no trading of stock and the amount ( against the stock is static) is base on the closing on 31 Dec 2013 5 pm to tabulate total or first to 30%.....we can put the amount against the stock but total will be projected only at either of the condition......fair right I am also taking into consideration of his proposal..........

Don't get mislead as stock pick and trading are 2 different challenge here......we are still saying stock pick to weather the global issues and financial results to trump the price base on market and PnL target......

Hafiz proposal is right in putting weightage only to balance the priotrity of the pick.

Inwest we are not playing trading game we are looking at stock pick.......the difference here is in the trading, buy and sell is continuous as oppose to a single or three stock pick where the stocks will go through global issues and FA and characteristic behavior to come out top.

The way I play it is no intervention after the stock pick and only umpire will confirm result. If hafiz is confident, why play trading?

For those who missed the pleading....because the cangkul hafiz too scared ....

Read the below.....and u will know that Hafiz has no confidence in his own pick leave alone opinion......Kakakaka......this is from OTB



Ooi Teik Bee
Tan KW's Portfolio: Stock Pick Challenge 2013 2H - OTB
Aug 30, 2013 04:36 PM | Report Abuse

Accept the challenge. You need to acknowledge it.


Tan KW's Portfolio: Stock Pick Challenge 2013 2H - OTB
Aug 30, 2013 04:32 PM | Report Abuse

Dear Hafiz,

I agree you choose Favco, it is my pick in next bull market. You are going to win big.
It is very fair you must accept the challenge. Think of another 2 stocks during the week end and compete with him. I know you can do it because you can pick better stock than him. My advice to you is to accept the challenge. Final decision is yours.
Thank you.


Tan KW's Portfolio: Stock Pick Challenge 2013 2H - OTB
Aug 30, 2013 04:19 PM | Report Abuse

Hafiz,

Please listen to me, accept the challenge. Final decision is yours.
Thank you.


Tan KW's Portfolio: Stock Pick Challenge 2013 2H - OTB
Aug 30, 2013 04:07 PM | Report Abuse

1. First to 30% wins.
2. End date = 31/12/2013
3 Umpire Tan KW
4. First to 30% shall prevail over the end date
5. The ref price shall start base on closing price
6. Total 3 counters shall be competed by 2/9/2013

Yes agree with cangkul Hafiz.....the guy who started bashing below ....
Talk talk talk but had to get OTB to plead for him to take the challenge......now talk brave.....



Hafiz Millip
Tan KW's Portfolio: Stock Pick Challenge 2013 2H - OTB
Aug 29, 2013 09:19 AM | Report Abuse

Some retards so busy bashing others yesterday that they COMPLETELY MISSED OUT on making the biggest gain.....lol....

To be fair here, it cannot be a running number and must be peg down. Anyway I have already confirm his number and mine. He is trying to evade the real question and challenge ie stock pick. He is trying to change this into a trade challenge. .....stock pick mean knowing ur FA and Bharacteristic of ur stock........I rest my case

He is so acfive telling everyone Monday will move up momentarily and then drop.....he is worried his 2.88 pick.....kakakakaka.....
His pick has avg TP at 3.50 and cangkul was laughing at Tropicana having 2.13. But he forgot the 30% required his pick to achieve 3.74 but similarly Tropicana need 2.13 on the dot.......kakakakaka....now very quiet because his pick is base on TP and institutional investor........now ask him PB for Favco....1 day already still cannot find......hooo booooooo

Inwest88, read the exchanges yesterday before he came out with Favco vs my Tropicana. Read all excuses and name calling like idiot and etc) He is trying to indemnify himself here if monday his stock doesnt move. The challenge will go ahead whether he make excuses or not. Hhahahaha

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