simple logic, those who try to clear hope the price to go up, only those who try to collect try to keep the price low. those that is not anyhow related with this stock won't make any comments at here at all

of course Jedi is collecting not clearing, his comments is to keep the price low, only stupid try to keep the price low when trying to clear. and by the way if he is really so negative with this stock, he should have already clear all his stock when the price spike up on 10 Sep 2020, almost 10% of the total share is traded on that day, not enough for him to sell all? come on, you think he got more than 10% of the company's share? if yes then he is one of the major shareholder, no major shareholders want the stock price to keep low by giving out negative comment UNLESS they are trying to collect more at cheaper price

4sen profit in 3 months but the entire company just trade at 12sen~!

@nckcm you mean property revaluation shouldn't count towards their earnings? I don't agree, asiapac is property investment company

profit is profit, loss is loss, as long as it came from legal way

@Nepo yeah, pointless to reply to those repeative personal insults. they will never argue with valid points, let's just ignore them from now on

@demusangking lmao read my previous comments before you comment on me please, I am never his follower, I can think by my own

invest with 6 sense, bravo

@freddiehero but have to break 0.10 before go high?? you fortune teller ka?

I despise the act of trying to influence others in stock market, because nobody can tell for sure how is the future movement of the stock. we can only predict with valid reasons. so please don't tell other that they should buy or sell or hold. It is enough to tell other what you yourself are doing and why you are doing so. let other think by their own and decide what they want to do.

*who buy who die* << this is the kind of statement here that I despise a lot

at the same time, I also despise those who are always relies on other's tips, buying and selling without actually knowing what they are doing. these are immature investors and should not invest at stock market at all, they are taking it like gamble only

@dawneagle if you got time please check all my posts here, I actually never say that the stock will go up (espeically in short term), I also never try to tell other to buy it (unlike calvintan, and also other naysayers here who tell other don't buy)

what I have been try to tell here is the stock is cheap and why I think it is cheap. I am definitely not a pro. I am also not a technical analysis. I am learning to be a value investor.

to be honest, I don't know the future movement of the stock at all, I definitely don't know. I only buy this stock because I think now it is cheap, very cheap (you may disagree with me but please give me valid reasons)

I buy a stock when I think it is cheap, and plan to sell only when I think it is no longer that cheap.

naysayers here keep warning people that this stock is going down (going cheap) and will keep on going cheap or will never go up in short term (like they are fortune tellers). they are actually trying to cause fear, causing people to not buy or cut loss (sell cheap).

imo, cut loss = sell cheap = panic sell, just in other words, the action is still the same, that is sell at loss. for me, the only time you should cut loss is when there is drastic change in the fundamental of the company. definitely not when everyone else is selling cheaper and cheaper without proper reason.

@demusangking you are here only to play mind game, spamming the same warning to cause fear without valid reasons why you think the price will continue to go down. and the worst trying to insult individual supporter of this counter personally

remember, buy cheap sell high. panic selling when price going down is one of the most common mistakes at share market

@demusangking why you care? lol this is not about me, our discussion should focus on asiapac only

just give valid point why you think the price will continue to go down. price going down means price become cheaper, and cheap is the reason to buy, or hold strong, not sell

so your point is because the price is going down now it will forever continue to go down? technical analyst?

@Nepo indeed

who really believe you guys are here to help other save money? money game promoters also claim that they want to help other to earn money la. no one really care to help stranger to save or earn money one la

obviously you all got own hidden selfish motive behind all this

many more good deed you guys can do, it is more helpful to spend your time to do charity, rather than 24/7 monitoring this counter, claim to be the savior of adult investors who can think by themselves here. warning people out of this counter without valid points, but just keep spamming "beware of con artist"

lol not your money la dompeilee, why u sad? you guys here try so hard to save other people's money haha

Kinda agree with you Nepo, I am so amazed that someone willing to keep monitoring this counter's comment section 24/7, keep spamming the same thing and claim to be the guardian of the newbies (which he don't know them personally). You can easily do many other good deeds with such effort

however, same concept apply to Calvin who keep on calling people to buy this counter.

actually I think is is very easy, both side have their own agenda, Calvin want to price to go up and the naysayers want to price to go down.

so don't trust anyone here. just analyst what they say and take the points that you can legitly believe

no one is better or higher ranking here, let's just discuss the company asiapac with points, nothing should be personal here

seriously? everyone talking about him here?

better rename this stock company = calvintan

@rocket glad you know ^_^

@SincereStock nope, I don't have a unit at imago

cheap is reason to buy lol

@newbie4444 asiapac is big company, they have more than 1 lands / assets. they own Imago mall (sabah's top1 mall) and a land in Labu

@musang passingby saja ka? macam lama sudah saya nampak kamu di sini, x tahu ke berapa kali sudah kamu mention "don't fall to con artist" hehe ^_^

@valour yeah just invest with cash fund that is not needed for long term, and never use borrowed money, to avoid being forced to sell prematurely (which I believe is 1 of the main reasons behind the recent panic sell)

@Nepo welcome :-) hope everything goes well ^_^

@Nepo indeed, if I had the money I will collect as much as possible ordinary shares of the company at below RM0.20, or even below RM0.25. I wonder why there is still no cash rich third party or company trying to take over this company at current price.

take over the company > sell the company assets > special dividend = quick money

further more, by pushing down the price below rm0.20, at current state, they can buy back even more shares of the company from the retailers at even cheaper price. I suppose this is what major share holders trying to do.

but by doing so, this also open up chance for cash rich 3rd party to get involves and collect significant % of the company shares. look at the recent volume traded, roughly 15% of the company shares is traded in recent weeks. who is the major buyer or buyers?

from what I see, it is simply because the company's ordinary share worth way beyond RM0.20, refer to assets the company owns, or simply the NTA.

they introduced the ICULS just so that they can subscribes more ordinary shares of the company at the price of RM0.20 (with 3% annual interest), at the same time also funding the company for future projects.

when some retailers will choose not to subscribes to the ICULS, this will lead to increase in the % stacks of major shareholders in this company (by assuming all of them will fully subscribe the ICULS)

thb, I am kinda amazed with the immaturity level here

the amount of tourists or malls patrons is just to ensure full tenancy of the mall and it's parking lots (which currently has already very well achieved). there is no need to overload the mall with billion of patrons.

@calvintaneng u exaggerated too much

Instead of believing in a random guy that you don't know.(becareful of con artist!) I advise serious investors to come visit the mall by yourself.

@nepo basically what you say is right, but you need to calculate the interest gains vs price different of RM0.01 (Rm0.15 - RM0.14) precisely

@musang we get your point already>> don't fall to con artist

but can we also discuss this stock with valid points?

another thing for thought about this ICUL conversion thing, major shareholders (insiders) are converting their ICUL to ordinary shares from time to time with the exercise price of RM0.20, they can easily get same amount of ordinary shares through the market at much cheaper price (even at peak RM0.17). what does this mean? at the same time by converting their ICUL prematurely (before expire date), they are also giving up the anual 3% interest

I hope everyone can get the IMPORTANT hidden messages from here.

@Nepo the cost of ordinary share is RM0.20 per share. 1 ICUL (RM1) can only be converted to 5 ordinary shares.

refer to this recent exercise >> http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5906013

the 1 to 10 thing is last time when this loan stock released, existing holders can subscribes 1 ICUL with every 10 ordinary shares. however 1 ICUL can only be converted to 5 ordinary shares. hope this makes no confusion.

the share price is still below the conversion price of this ICUL, even during the recent peak of RM0.17.

however, do also note that the existing of this loan stock diluted the ordinary shares by 5/(10+5) x 100% = 33%

@Nepo the cost of ordinary share is RM0.20 per share. 1 ICUL (RM1) can only be converted to 5 ordinary shares.

refer to this recent exercise >> http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5906013

the 1 to 10 thing is last time when this loan stock released, existing holders can subscribes 1 ICUL with every 10 ordinary shares. however 1 ICUL can only be converted to 5 ordinary shares. hope this makes no confusion.

the share price is still below the conversion price of this ICUL, even during the recent peak of RM0.17.

however, do also note that the existing of this loan stock diluted the ordinary shares by 5/(10+5) x 100% = 33%

my only advise to those who are unable to make own decision, following only sifu's tip, is to stop investing in the market

@rocket me too don't like the rollercoaster movement, main reason because I am unable to predict the peak, I have just hold through along the way until now (with clam mind), but hey~ the good thing is it is no longer 0.11 now, so far it is stablizing at 0.14 ^_^

as for newbies, I don't actually agree o differentiate investors as newbie or pro, all of us just need to have correct mind set and take full responsibilities of our own decision in the market, as I believe only adults are here ^_^

the only intention behind every movement is buy low sell high

@rocket

buy low sell high <<< this is the only thing everyone in the market trying to do

but when operators / major shareholders / group of people who are good at mind manipulation did it, we call them con artist / syndicate? when they just did what you are trying to do?

we need to be sensible, mind game is part of the game. there is only so much we can do as retail investors, that is be patient and hold tight until the price reach your tp (set tp according to what you think it is fair value of this company)

the only other situation you should sell your share is when there is drastic change in the fundamental of the company, definitely not when everyone else are selling panicly, or when certain cash rich syndicate are trying to manipulate, as you mentioned.

@rocket, no movement is fake, what if you bought at 0.11 and sold at 0.17? you still call it a fake? it is a movement nevertheless. there is no promise that the price will go beyond 0.17, everything is mind game and investors' own prediction or speculations. so which part is fake?

there is no such thing as con counter, you can make money or lose money in any counter, as long as there is any price movement. the only problem is only you cannot predict the movement, not that the counter is a con

@valour I dare the operators to push down the price even more hehe see how far they can go

@valour what if all minority shareholders hold strong, unwilling to sell at low price? he won't be able to manipulate the price, he will be ending up selling his own shares at such level of low price only. too bad now mostly retailers don't know how to invest (sorry to say), just follow sifu tips to panic buy and sell without knowing what they actually do

@Gtrade this is not about pride, this is just investment. some of us hold long term and doesn't bother at all about short term up down that we cannot control or predict. 0.17 to 0.14? no feel.

when the company is good and people start to realize that, even the operators or major shareholders cannot keep the price down below the fair price forever, even if they are willing to throw away all their shares at such cheap price. those who know it's true value will still sapu all. we are just waiting for the time to come, 3 years or more? no problem, that is what we call investment, we are not borrowing money or need to cash out our money invested in this stock anytime soon.

what kind of person keep talking about himself as third person? I am a strong supporter of asiapac( even at this moment when the price going down), but calvin I think you need to stop what you are doing, you are getting too over, it might just cause negative effect