A LITTE BIT OF PANTUN FOR HORNY ATIANS

Now that Paktua73, the great pantunis of I3, is here I feel like selling him some pantun, and moving to a pantun career. The last time I saw him, he was rallying his troops for HLT and LKL. Good that now he’s bringing in his multi-coloured troops and vibrators to sapport AT.

Terimalah lima rangkap pantun saya ini seadanya.

AT Penang mai, Ipoh mali
Ayuh kita semua bertandang ke Chemor
Ada rezeki bawalah balik si limau bali
Kesian amoi gerai penat melambai dan panas berjemur

Dua tiga kucing berlari
Manakan sama si kucing belang
Dua tiga dan lebih syarikat mahu sarungi
Si AT kita jugalah yang gah terbilang

Sayang Sarawak sungainya kecil
Tapi pendek lagilah Sungai Perak
Yakinlah AT akan mengaum walaupun la ni kerdil
Nanti kalau dah melepasi lima kupang ketawalah kita terbahak-bahak

Tarik papan, sorong papan
Ini saham AT naik kalo, you hepi, I hepi
Nanti sampai time kita beraya sakan
Segala persengketaan dan masalah kita, kita tolak tepi

Senahak senohong ikan gelama duri
Mailah melabur dalam AT keramat
Gadailah segala emas, perak dan cawat besi untuk ke mari
Semoga kita pelabur AT diberkati dan dilimpahi rahmat

Tut tut
Meow meow
Woof woof

Sekian, terima kasih.

desmondlee78, good progress report on AT. Actual site observation, rather than random thoughts of cybertroopers or keyboard warriors. Sayonara.

Smart2Win, good comment. But bye for now. Missed my lunch break.

damnguy, please do not talk bad about XOX. Earlier this year during its RI exercise, even though I did not manage to sell a single XOX-PR, I later made 18.673% profit (3.5 to 4.2 sen, I just checked my realised gain/loss window) on XOX, not bad for a few weeks investment period. Reminds me of the time I really sailanged Megan-WA before it went bust. Maybe next time I will find the strength to silently inform the mighty CalvinTan not to badmouth again the dear departed Megan Holding. Sorry, divert too much.

sircarloz, thanks for your response. Yes, whenever I can I want to share with others my views and understanding on AT. So many have come to this AT forum as of late, in the last two weeks. Such that the regulars of yesteryears have mostly disappeared or have been drowned out. I do follow the forum of other counters as well, especially the counters that I bought, but for quite some time have decided to fully devote my comments on AT. Some counters are too big or too blue for us to make meaningful of influential comments. We say something or not makes no difference. I have very few counters now - putting eggs in a few basket. Largest investment in a glove blue chip call warrant is doing very bad. Hope you make money on AT, sircarloz.

Zuliana, can I advise you something?

It all depends on your entry level, investment portion and risk appetite or level.

If you entered high after rumour of uncle Koon surfaced, put a lot of capital in here with the aim to sailang and have low risk appetite then the answer is 'complicated'.

If you entered high then you can cut loss at this stage or just hope and pray that the price will go up soon. Wait at least until the factory is operational in early December 2020, with one single-former glove dipping line (not yet 13).

Like me for example, I have mentioned before that I entered both AT and AT-WC in June, after selling some of my call warrant stocks for the Big 4 of glove. At that time the glove blue chips dropped due to margin limit by the investment banks. Then came the Russian Sputnik vaccine of Putin and various other vaccine news. I waced

I also entered both AT and AT-WC near peaks in June and watched in horrow the prices dived due to various events - investment bank margin limit (my account not margin), Putin Sputnik vaccine and other vaccine news. However, during that period the prices went up above my buy price but I did not sell. Reason being that I believe in the future of AT; and if I jump to other stocks I might get fried as well.

If you entered lower, say 10-15 sen, better just wait and do not sell. Set your own support level, a good value is the proposed PP indicator price of 13 sen. Were you around when the offered PP were at 7 sen and less?

If your other stock counters are doing ok and you do not really need the money then just hold on.

But then the price might go lower, leading to bigger losses.

So, the decision is yours, but I urge you to stay and have faith in AT.

At the end of this morning trading session (Wed 18 Nov 2020) on Bursa Malaysia, AT was down by 0.04 sen (-16.33%), and AT-WC dropped 0.045 sen (-20.00%). In my humble opinion, three main factors contribute to this significant fall:

(1) Recent announcements of COVID-19 vaccines by Moderna and Sinopharm,
(2) Reported sell-off of AT shares by Koon Yew Yin and associates,
(3) Announcement of new round of private placement of AT shares.

Moderna of Cambridge in Massachusetts, USA, announced that it's newly-developed COVID-19 vaccine, based on the new mRNA technology (similar to that of Pfizer-BioNTech) is 94.5% effective. So, efficiency or efficacy higher than Pfizer's 90%. Then, China National Pharmaceutical Group (Sinopharm) announced the sponsorship, with Malaysian partners, of its COVID-19 vaccine to Malaysian frontliners. Sinopharm's vaccine has the advantages of being more widely-tested and requires higher and more practical temperature range of 2-8 degree celsius for storage and transport. However, will the success of the vaccines spell the end of medical gloves?

Many many here have immediately responded to (2), the Koon factor. So, need I dwell more on Koon's look-see look-see and happy-ending trip to AT Glove factory in nearby Chemor? Or maybe I should comment on crucial concepts like under-rated, Supermax a lame duck, and Mahsing needs at least two years to glove. Maybe I'll add my piece on this topic some other time. For now, better for me to describe this Koon factor on AT, or KYY jelly effect, using the Facebook term, as 'complicated'.

I am happy that stockiss is back commenting on AT, including on the latest round of private placement (PP). Lately, stockiss seems to have avoided the AT forum for obvious reasons, that I understand and appreciate. Writing articles on his I3 blog is certainly a better option at this stage, easier to search and refer to. In this proposed PP round, a maximum of 750 million shares (in several tranches) will be offered to selected private investors, representing 20% of AT's present share base at an indicative price of 13.24 sen. A PP is actually a good thing, indicates investor confidence and avoids bank spray red paint on company factory floor and wall in future, if things go south. So fear not PP, it is not a good reason for AT stock prices to fall.

callmejholow, before this I also really wanted to cover the sad and dark episode you mentioned last night, as a warning or reminder to those not in the know. We need to keep our cool and be very careful in our postings on I3, in our common quest for wealth. Yes, I still remember that dark and stormy night some years ago when I read the shocking news. Please google investar (in combination with other relevant terms) if you want to know more.

spielmacher, because the exercise price of AT-WC is only 3.5 sen. Meaning if you want to convert WC to mother share, AT, need to pay extra 3.5 sen per WC share. So, lower exercise price better, cheaper to convert. Thus, son/daughter warrant will swim closer to mother. Theoretically, AT-WC should be 3.5 sen cheaper than AT, so when AT moons at 50 sen, WC is 46.5 sen. But in practise the daughter will swim closer to the mother, recent good case is HLT (but alas I missed at the limit up stages).

Maybe others can offer their views and explain better. Yes, there are many kind souls. Ignore the unkind and nasty ones, maybe they're not in the mood. So, this is my way of giving back what I've learned for free.

Have to stop for break. Then later try to ask google to translate your German-sounding name to understand.

drtrade, thanks. Nice feeling of being appreciated. But as I said, I try to do good here, like the Google slogan, Do No Evil. In retrospect, I've been nasty, hot-tempered and inconsiderate in real life at times. So in this really uprecedented critical time of COVID-19, I just want no confrontation and a bit of increase in wealth. Writing here can be therapeutic and good method of online learning and self-improvement. Bye for now.

smartkids I checked my hardcopy kuda calendar and it shows Deepavali is this Saturday. If I'm not mistaken, also checked my trading platform announcement this morning but none. The convention used to be that if a celebration falls on a weekday then the holiday is the next Monday. For Bursa in WP KL. Unless want to celebrate early tomorrow.

One more thing rr88 another free lesson that I learned from you is see money, take money. I applied it then at times without being too greedy. And today I applied this philosophy on two other counters at relatively good profit, but smaller amounts. So see money, take money is a good strategy to preserve capital. That's the first of a very famous Warren Buffett rule on investing: Rule #1 Never lose money (capital), Rule #2 Apply Rule #1, Rule #3 Don't forget Rule #2.

Oh my Goat, you're finally in AT here, rr88. That means this side of the pond starts to attract big fish like you. Anyway, I would like to personally thank you from the bottom of my heart for giving free advice on the intricacies of rights issue (RI), sometime early this year to beginning of MCO in March. In particular, you mentioned to key in at 8.30 am sharp to queue sell the OR shares (trading for 5 days) when someone else enquired about it. I was a silent reader those doggy days. I always planned to sell the OR at 0.5 sen, rather than subscribe requiring bigger funds I lack and uncertain future. With that I managed to profit in NOVAMSC but not in others like AGESON, AT and XOX. I later profit on some when I bought low and their issued warrants, before moving on to call warrant play. But your advice convinced me to start my short career in the RI game. I followed you since then, even learning silently from your bloody battles with other commentators in this brutal reality of stock-trading. Honestly rr88, thank you sir. Hopefully, no strong words thrown at me.

Guys, relax. So today Thur 12 Nov 2020, AT closed low at 22 sen (-18.52%); similarly AT-WC down to 20 sen (-20%). Quite sad indeed but should not be cause for great concern.

One reason for the sharp drop in AT prices, in tandem with those for the heavyweights of Malaysian glove, could be the announcement of COVID-19 vaccine by Pfizer-BioNTech a few days ago. And possibly also due to near future announcement of similar vaccines by other competing global companies.

However, many are now aware of the main drawback of the Pfizer vaccine, the requirement of very low temperature. Leading to higher cost and more challenging logistics. On top of that, news have broken out that the CEO of Pfizer, Albert Bourla, cashed out 62% of his stock worth US$5.6 million the day their vaccine was announced. These two negative factors ensure that the initial excitement and brouhaha over the Pfizer vaccine will just fizzle out soon.

Another reason for the relative drop is that yesterday the prices were so pumped up at stratospherically high volumes due to the speculation that Koon Yew Yin, the Super Investor of Bursa Malaysia, had recently bought AT shares massively. And he then immediately sold. Naturally others sold to take profit and the prices tanked. If so, then Mr. Koon is a one night stand operator, you really believe that?

Yes, Mr. Koon did write an article on AT in his blog, complete with his selfie with a random guy outside the AT factory in Chemor near Ipoh. Free publicity indeed for AT. But, even with his clickbait title, the article is merely a neutral and flavour-free compilation of recent announcements by AT. He did not present his view nor assessment on AT. No where did he mention that he bought or write glowing tributes to AT. Still, many have put words in his mouth and said that he this and he that. That he bought and some even questioned his Golden Rule criteria. Maybe later some will question his business sense and track record with Liihen, Jayatiasa, Hengyuan, JAKS, and Dayang, among others.

However, to me, even though Koon is a very big whale in Bursa, can move mountains, his action of whether to buy or not to buy AT; or have bought or have not bought, is not a deciding factor in the medium to long term success of AT Glove.

Finally, when the Pearl Glove deal cancellation was announced yesterday evening, some folks decided to sell and take profit, leading to the sell-down in AT today. Well, profit-taking at this stage is healthy, and good on them the sellers. This provides the chance for new players to join the glove party.

And no, the music has not stopped yet for the AT musical chair.

There is still tomorrow for us to trade, before we rest a few days to celebrate Deepavali.

Keep safe, stay safe.

Happy Deepavali 2020 everyone.

Trademou, thank you for your classification into three types of people existing in this AT forum. I really appreciate your release of true information on the real situation - visit to the Chemor factory, update on site progress and knowledge of Koon Yew Yin factory visit with proof of his smiling picture at gate entrance.

But still the naysayers and haters will cry scam and fake news. I have also said before that the Pearl Glove acquisition is not THE or definitive criterion for AT to become a world-beating glove player.

So the announcement yesterday on the acquisition confirmation was highly anticipated but however not expected to be a decisive factor for those reasonably informed. The informed have mentioned that after a long due diligence the acquisition of the plant is not worth it, like consider buying a used Kancil for Makcik Kiah's building material delivery business.

Why the critics never bothered to know that a previous AT press release mentioned that the Chemor plant will operate up to 13 lines to produces 2.6 billion pieces of medical gloves annually. The next phase of seven lines, subject to demand, will be in a new or another factory. Need not be at Pearl Glove. Maybe someone should mention that there is a sufficiently big empty lot next to the present Chemor factory buildings, inside company compound.

Mahsing also mentions phase 2 what, if demand still there. Mahsing aims to be in the Top 5, I'll be happy for AT to be in Top 10 or Top 20. Lean but mean.

I guess many in the know or have more insider information like you Trademou are reluctant to come here to testify positively on AT due to the eternal presence of these haters. Well, as they say, haters are gonna be haters. That is the sole raison d'etre of their existence in the online ecosystem.

I will try to be brief by giving my version of classes of commenters in this AT forum:

(1) Know the facts and well-informed, become medium to long-term holders, comment positively.
(2) Also know the facts and figures; but have sold at profit or loss, expect to re-enter low.
(3) Just entered AT from other counters, trying to apply previous winning tactics on other counters here.
(4)* Newbies who just entered the stock trading world, asking genuine basic questions or offer opinions.
(5) Fence-sitters and non-invested, arguing for the fun of it and acting as the Devil's Advocate.

* Let us please be nice with this category (4). They might be insulted by the response to their comments and might quit stock-trading or forum participation. Worse, they might consider jumping off the Petronas Twin Towers or the Penang Bridge (why care to mention which one, 1 or 2, end result is the same). Furthermore, 'newbie' is a very vague term - could be newbie in AT but oldbie in other counters, new oldbie, old newbie, and oldbie but young at heart...

Mia Khalifa, oops sori tersengaja, Mia_Jalipah, your comments yesterday on latest SIS (Share Issuance Scheme) and before that on ESOS need further response. But please be advised, I'm not a professional or qualified financial adviser. Just trying to act like one, cari makan.

Latest SIS of 20 million is significantly smaller than the present total shares of 2.35 billion. Thus, will not significantly affect share price or dilution level. The offer price of 24 sen is definitely attractive discount to yesterday's closing price of 27 sen. You can say that yesterday's 11-11 megasale is still on today, 12-11. Another good thing is that SIS is not offered to directors.

So, SIS is really a generous move by the company to its rank-and-file staff, or in today's parlance, frontliners. This gives them a stake in the company and thus it is in their best interest to strive and work for the good of the company. Similar to me now, commenting and wasting precious monitor ink for my vested financial interest in AT, not for the sake of charity or welfare in my heart.

To my understanding, the offer of SIS to employees only differentiates it from ESOS. I could be wrong here, but then why come up with different terms and acronyms for the same fooking concept?

Mia Khalifa, from the AT website yesterday I saw that the number of employees at AT Group is 120. Apparently, that's pre-COVID and pre-glove. Recently someone, maybe Stockiss, mentioned that AT Glove in Chemor has recruited 1,000 workers. So, ratio of ESOS or SIS per employee what ah? You do the maths.

Frankly speaking, now there's never a dull moment in AT forum.

But I guess it's time to go back to observation or read mode.

Hotstuff, yeah baby, I need some hot stuff baby tonight. Donna Summer said, not me. Goodnight.

sweetchocalates, sorry Pearl Glove ..., not pgse

Wah, almost 800 comments on this AT forum for Tue 10 Nov 2020. Comment page scrolls up so fast, cannot even display previous pages of comments. AT trading volumes also very high the last two days, 2.66 billion on Mon 9 Nov 2020 (Bursa and Olympic record), and 1.68 billion on 10 Nov. Bravo AT.

Glove will put Malaysia on the world map for the right reason and make Malaysia great again.

MANGGA - Make Malaysia Great Again !!

menort, good also lah for you to be here again. Give dissenting views should be welcome. Basically now you're saying AT is way too overvalued. Good thing what. Because last time price not moving you were not happy, Stockiss scolded you. Now Koon Yew Yin is saying AT is very much under-rated. Same as way undervalued. What say you. By the way, where is UMNO57? He seems to be MIA - missing in action. I hope he sold with profit or at least break even, then come back here again to ride this glove train with us. With the crazy global demand for gloves, stock trading need not be a zero sum game.

Mia Jalipah and night_shadow, your concerns are quite valid. Weekly ESOS shows. Ratio of number of ESOS to number of employees seems to be quite high. Present number of employees in the hundreds or thousand plus? Offered also to substantial shareholders (if employees) and directors? ESOS should be for the benfit of the workers. Latest ESOS round of 70m seems small compared to total share of 3b plus, and at 12 sen is good discount, really cheap. Maybe company also want to have 11.11 sale, compete with Lazada.

Stockhunters, yes confirmed now that PP round has been completed. Company did not exercise the maximum allocation. So now we just wait for PGSE announcement, another catalyst or booster for the stock price.

Gtrade, rules are made to be broken. So do you really believe that the Koon Yew Yin Golden Rule is really carved in stone like the Ten Commandments? Needs to be followed to the 't'?

Koon Yew Yin created and applied the Golden Rule that bears his name so of course he has the right to apply and modify it as he sees fit.

So when Koon wants to act like a value investor, he will ensure before investing that the company has good fundamentals - good management, have moat and make profit for at least two quarters. But, do notice that at times he follows the Koon half golden rule (make profit for only one quarter), or even the quarter golden rule.

Many others have followed the Koon Golden Rule faithfully and have benefited from it. But some have also broke it or cursed it profusely and were handsomely rewarded as well.

So in this extreme case of historically underdog AT we see that Koon is following the Koon zero or negative golden rule. Why? Because, have you of heard of AT making profit the last few quarters? No, consistently slight profit or losses for donkey years.

I guess what Koon, the super investor of Bursa Malaysia, sees is the future prospect of AT, not its past performance viewed from the rearview mirror. Furthermore, in this extraordinary and unprecedented time of COVID-19, it pays to take unconventional and un-ordinary actions, like buying AT Systematization stocks. Throw way our long-held and established beliefs down the drain. Throw caution to the wind. Be born anew, start anew and buy AT, even if you are an avowed skeptic..

Koon sometimes surrounds himself with qualified and financially successful advisers but then falls out or dumps them. He has his own style which may differ from others, the hallmark of a good dictator.

Sorry, I have to name names and hope it's ok for me to mention Koon's associates, past and present, of kcchongnz and Ooi Teik Bee (OTB), the gurus of value investing based on fundamental analysis (FA), technical analysis (TA) and other water-tight investing criteria. However, pity that their efforts to offer free guidance on investing in i3investor.com (hereafter I3), the ngetop online investing forum in Malaysia, have got them to being ridiculed by some. Apart from Koon, they are among the very few brave writers to use their own name on I3, I need to add.

Then there are also the serious devotees of value investing on I3 like Philip (variable last names in brackets) and Sslee (sometimes affectionately called ASSlee by q^n). Even young nephew Choivo Capital (fka Jon Choivo) is an adherent of value investing, occasionally producing highly academic and mathematical articles on selected sectors and blue chip counters only. These holy high priests of I3 will definitely not cover nor touch a penny stock like AT with a ten-foot pole.

Of course there are also other high level influencers and prolific writers in I3. Mention Calvin Tan and many in I3 will voluntary offer honest testimonials on him. These highly successful capitalist brothers will typically quote Warren Buffett, Ben Graham, John Templeton, George Soros and Jack Ma in their investment sermons.

However the case maybe, most of just just do not care a shit about the method we use to invest as long as we make money or profit. Call us by whatever name that is socially acceptable to us is ok - value investor, day trader, speculator, gambler, opportunist or random guy/auntie. By following this line of thought in stock trading, we have unknowingly been converted to communism, as the former Chinese communist leader Deng Xiaoping once gave an edict, 'it does not matter if a cat is black or white or pink, as long as it catches mice'.

My main point here is that Koon Yew Yin is quite versatile in his investing strategy. He is daring (by e.g. using margin financing), successful visionary and a very good role model to some; ruthless and of the opposite qualities to others.

Anyway, his investing method explains why 80% of investors including me and probably you, are poor and condemned to be poor. Only 20% becomes rich, with the maybe 10% very rich. Then the very selected and anointed 1% forms the top of the food chain.

So, I figure that for the case of Koon Yew Yin in AT, maybe some have known about this earlier and sailang kaw kaw with him. Maybe enter at 7-10 sen and exit at 15-20 sen for quick profit. Congratulations to them.

Some claimed that Koon Yew Yin had exited AT by now. But I do not think so, not so soon. AT is still much cheaper compared to other big glove stocks. Potentially tremendous upside for AT, and I will remain faithful to AT until I'm not. Amen.

Hey, what an amazing coincidence. I also just saw Uncle Koon start to write good things on AT right after I posted mine. That means he's already in and is the one who pushed up AT yesterday with big volume. Only a whale has the power to do this. Thanks to many nephew who posted this good news rumour yesterday that turns out to be a reality today. So, let us all now go for this AT ride with him. Tell all the uncle and auntie pasar to join us. Tell Uncle Roger and his estranged Auntie Helen to join also. Promote also to all niece and nephew. Open account and buy AT and/or AT-WC. But please please know when to enter and when to exit. Koon Yew Yin is not going to tell us when he enter or exit. Trade safe and play safe, in-out game you set. A good rule of thumb on when to exit is when Uncle Koon starts to promote other stocks or entertains us with his tulip trips to Holland.

Because of yesterday's announcement of 90% efficiency of COVID-19 vaccine by Pfizer of US and BioNTech of Germany,during this morning trading, glove stocks on Bursa Malaysia slightly tumbled. The Big 4 dropped. Our mighty AT Systematization fell 16.28%, AT-WC eased 17.50% and my overall stock portfolio as compared to yesterday's closing prices is down by about 15%.

But is this the end of the world for Malaysian glove stocks? Should we listen to the prophets of doom? Is the sky Falling? NO!! NON!! NEIN!! NYET!! NEHI !!

Even if affective vaccines are available more gloves will be needed by healthcare workers. And also in other sectors in this new norm during and post-COVID-19.

Main facts about this Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. Only a small sample has been administered, clinical trial in the traditional sense of vaccine development has not been completed. New technology involving mRNA, messenger RNA. Potential Nobel prize winner for developer, if vaccine successful, a few years down the road.

This mRNA vaccine requires ultracold temperature storage, minus 80 degrees celsius. Thus, leading to increased cost, especially for developing countries like Malaysia. And hot tropical climates. But never mind, Pfizer has also developed the cooling container to store the vaccine.

Also, only 50 million doses will be prepared in 2020, for 25 million people, and then 1.3 billion doses in 2021. For immediate use, 200 million doses already reserved for the EU (European Union), 100 million for US and 40 million for UK.

World population now more than 7 billion, just imagine. Number of countries in the world is 500, according to our present knowledgeable health minister. Warm water treatment, I presume.

So, for now Malaysian users have better chance of getting Viagra than COVID-19 vaccine from Pfizer.

Thus, the brutal reality that we have to accept is that gloves will be more in demand and glove stocks will be more bullish for the foreseeable future. How many waves of COVID attacks have we seen and endured these last few months of 2020? And how many roller-coaster rides in our glove stocks have we survived, my fellow glove-lovers?

Another undeniable fact is that healthcare is the only sector that is consistently bullish during this pandemic. In particular, the glove stocks of Malaysia are being sought after to save the world.

I don't know you but to me AT Systematization gives us the once in a lifetime chance to become one of the Crazy Rich Malaysian Glove Stockists!!

The many recent good news on AT will only make its stock prices go higher. Probably rising again in this afternoon session. Consecutive limit ups leading to freeze ups are probable these coming few days. Expected announcement on confirmation of Pearl Glove acquisition either tomorrow or before the weekend is eagerly awaited. So seriously speaking, to cut win or to cut loss now is irresponsibly and purely premature ejaculation.

Even the sweet rumour of super investor Koon Yew Yin visiting the nearby AT glove factory in Chemor and deciding to invest in AT is just sweet. This piece of good news will not hurt the present exponentially upward trajectory of AT share prices. I'll be more worried if Mr Koon writes new articles to stubbornly promote Supermax, Top Glove or Careplus. Or worse, when he starts talking about orchid or going to Holland to visit multi-coloured tulips. Sounds really scary like tulipmania.

Stockiss, thanks for your Telegram group invitation. I'm interested in joining and getting more detailed and insider information on AT. However, maybe for now I'll try to get by with available online information. Happy to see the many supporters of AT such as liverfool/inoutking.

Glove will definitely put Malaysia on the world map for the right reason. And make Malaysia great again.

MANGGA - Make Malaysia Great Again !!

My shift for today has ended but I feel that it is my self-appointed and sacred duty to defend the AT fort for now. Previously, Stockiss and a few others have manned the fort.

jolow - yes true, that the solar panels can only power the toilet light and other low-powered devices. Glove production uses a lot of power and as just mentioned by Stockiss, the Ripcol plant will be powered by a combination of gas and solar power, and certainly also TNB grid power. I believe the bulk of the power will be from gas, as gas is cheaper and plentiful supply at the location. Well, you're also right that at the moment there is no oil or gas well (or shale fracking) in Ipoh or surrounding area, but have you heard of PGU? The Peninsular Gas Utilisation project, where Petronas pipes gas from Terengganu (Kertih) to other parts of Peninsular Malaysia where Carlsberg cannot reach. Sure the gas pipeline passes through Ipoh, so just pay some mafia to steal or divert some to pipe to Chemor.

Gas and solar power will get AT Glove into the green book of environmentalists and tree huggers, as rightly mentioned once again by Stockiss. See the smart approach of Supermax in terms of going green, specifically go to their North American (US & Canada) distributor website and see that they stress how green they are as to score some brownie points with the Mat Sallehs.

By the way, even with the ever falling cost of solar cells, or photovoltaic cells to be exact, due to progress in research and development, it might not really be economical. No moving parts no doubt, but power density low, intermittent sunlight (for sure God turns off sunlight at night) and crucial components degrade over time. So, you can't have your cake and eat it.

Another thing to remember is that glove manufacturing is not that easy, not a walk in the park. You have to deal with high pressure, high temperature and loud noise, among others. Let's hope that our locals could do the job, rather than we later blame the foreigners for snatching our jobs. And at the high end of the spectrum, there's the research and development to innovate on the product - better, cheaper and faster. Do note that many present CEOs of the top Malaysian glove companies are also founders and innovators (product developers) of their companies - Top Glove, Hartalega, Kossan and Riverstone. Maybe with the exception of Supermax, different background.

Some say the barrier to entry for glove manufacturing is not that high, but definitely the barrier is higher than say for three-ply mask and other PPE manufacturing. Thus, NOW NOT EVERYONE CAN GLOVE.

If glove manufacturing is easy, then any Tong, Din and Harindran can set up a glove factory in his backyard. Just buy a second-hand Singer machine and start sewing used Karex condoms, maybe.

Zainuddin Hussien - The probable reason that AT did not mention solar energy in their press release is economics as I've mentioned before. Good CSR/PR but economies of scale? Or maybe announced later (apart from Bursa announcement)

Armanhashim - yes, I am also impressed by the Hartalega factory when passing the highway to and from KLIA. When under construction, I wondered what is this so big and futuristic building. Maybe some martians were constructing it for their Earth landings. Later, I saw a prominent name HARTALEGA. Very good advertising - work of art. Years later when play stock I know the meaning. However, do remember that the Sepang Hartalega buildings were designed from scratch, and the company has been established with production factories all around. ATG Chemor was acquired from another company and modified to operate in a relatively short time.

dompeilee - I do hope by opening of trading hours on Friday you will be cured of constipation and become a good convert to AT. May you have faith in AT and be converted. Peace.

There are also many aspects to be said negatively about AT (ref Menort et al. 2020, The Edge 2020) - penny goreng stock, Fintec/AsiaBio umbrella, menara Lien Hoe (I can rename it Menara Go Reng), goreng kakis. But, that's a topic for the next decade...

Someone want to discuss Riverstone, Sri Trang (Thai), LATEXX/Semperit, Mercator (Polish/Thai) here in AT forum?

Like some, I was also a skeptic on AT. So, it's hard to blame menort and other I3 skeptics and non-believers on AT. I lost money when I entered at the wrong phase of the cycle. But then, by playing both mother (main share) and warrant, I managed to regain the loss.

I mostly played penny stocks and their warrants and just before COVID-19 MCO AT was one of the stocks that I held due to the rights issue (RI) play. At the start of the MCO my stock portfolio was very much in the red, like many others. But then the MCO turned things around. Many healthcare stocks moved up. So I joined the crowd, moved into healthcare - the call warrants of the Big 4 glove stocks and the second and third tier glove and related stocks. Became a stock frog, jumping from stock to stock, and go for the second and further rounds.

But unlike in politics, you do not always jump stock for the better. You win some, lose some. At times the going is good, you gain. Sometimes you get skewered and barbecued, like when I re-entered AT and its AT-WC. Entered both at peak and got stuck for months.

Why did I enter AT? Well, even though it is a penny stock and loss-making I saw it is involved in high technology and occupy a niche area. Machine-precision tooling and parts for industrial automation and control, hard disk and medical devices. Hard disk is a sunset industry? Well, data centres and storage for online shopping are booming. Precision parts for the semiconductor and healthcare industries are always in demand. Then there's the Rieter of Switzerland contract for weaving loom parts of a few million ringgit annually for a good number of years.

Then, during MCO came many announcements on MOUs and whatnot by AT on healthcare to fight COVID-19 - sanitising chamber, three-ply mask machinery part, ventilator part. And finally, the icing on the cake, medical gloves. I knew that maybe not all of these could be done by a small company like AT but that's the risk worth taking. One needs to test the water - dip our toes. So, I bought AT and AT-WC - quite a good proportion of my portfolio.

Then immediately the prices of both counters started to drop with no end in sight. I sold part of AT and moved back to a glove blue chip call warrant. That also dropped spectacularly. Sold at substantial loss also, so sad. Entered ASB, hoping and praying feverishly for DSAI to become PM9, kaput ..

Now, some of us wait with bated breath the announcement on the takeover of Pearl Glove in Sungai Petani, Kedah by AT. However, decision delayed due to the due diligence process. September 2020, no come, October also no come.

But does the Pearl Glove takeover really define the glove transformation of AT? To me not really, as AT later proceeded with a much faster Plan B, the acquisition of Ripcol Industries in Chemor, Perak.

Work at Ripcol seems to progress at lightning speed but some still have doubts. Is it really happening or just a facade? Ripcol is not a glove company - AT has been ripped in the arse in broad daylight!!! Will they get the permit from the local council or state government? Will they get FDA and CE certification? Why no announcement or progress report with pictures and videos to prove? Really scam!!

Then same circular questions with proposed Pearl Glove acquisition. Oh, Pearl Glove produces industrial glove, a different beast from nitrile or medical glove. AT does not have RM170 miliion to acquire Pearl Glove. Resulting in never ending ESOS, SIS, PP, RI - how can lah!!!

Please lah, read their freaking announcements (definitive version on bursamalaysia.com). To me, at this point in time, if Pearl Glove is a go it would be in phase 2 - the next seven (double-former) glove-dipping lines of nitrile of medical gloves necessitating the modification of the industrial glove production lines. Or, adding new nitrile production lines to the existing industrial glove lines.

My hope is that AT will employ more IR 4.0 (whatever that means), automation and robotics as planned in their glove factory operations. Reduce manpower, thus lowering cost and reduce human-induced error. Capitalise on their strength in precision engineering and machine tooling. These are mere words to us but for them at AT its their bread and butter. And oh yes, AT have been installing solar power on their Penang factory rooftop - getting decent income by selling power to TNB, initially under FIT, now under NEM. And AT just signed an agreement with Vsolar for similar solar power installation on their Chemor factory rooftop. Kaching!! Another source of regular income.

That my friend, is my current view on AT systematization. I have been stuck in my bat-cave for months. Could not venture out to the outside world. Wifi reception at my limestone cave is rather sketchy at best. Au revoir.

Aha, I love the smell of freshly baked glove in the afternoon.

For the inquisitive, that's a skewed tribute to Apocalypse Now from a war buff like me.

Anyway, congratulations to AT holders and believers, including me, for having faith in AT for the last few months and in this trying time of COVID-19 pandemic.

Since last week, AT Systematization has been on a quiet bullrun. The pace accelerated today with the good news that the AT glove factory is on track, with production starting in less than two months. First reported today 28 Oct 2020 in the afternoon by The Sun Daily (immediately reported on i3 AT forum by adam919191, yes we need to give credit where credit is due), then Bernama and The Edge. Sure later today will be covered by The Star, New Straits Times and others, else these media outlets will be accused of trying to suppress good news or collect cheap beforehand by conspiracy theories.

In summary, today's news on AT as provided by AT to the media:

- By June 2021 will produce 2.6 billion pieces per year of medical-grade nitrile gloves.

- Line 1 of single-former glove-dipping line is 80% complete, begin production in less than 2 months (early dec 2020).

- Every month thereafter will add 2 glove-dipping lines, by mid-2021 will have a total of one single- and 12 double-former dipping lines.

- Group will spend RM120 million on the venture, but expects to break even in a year.

- Assuming average selling price of nitrile glove is US80 per 1,000 pieces, group will earn RM860 million annually, versus present turnover of RM20 million.

- Group plans a total of 20 lines, the last seven on a new factory

- Group gets overwhelming response and queries from foreign and local buyers.

So, hopefully this announcement gives more clarification to us the investors and the converted; and also to the skeptics cum naysayers. Personally for me, I can see the picture of the dipping line conveyor belt and the height of the factory building, 3 or 4 storey, as previously mentioned by company as suitable for glove-dipping lines. Alvo verifies the report with pictures by lagenda after the company EGM in September 2020. Lagenda also showed samples of glove and box package, among others.

By the way, after today's (28 Oct) trading on Bursa Malaysia, AT closes nicely at 9.5 sen (up 5.56%) and warrant AT-WC at 7.0 sen (unchanged).

AT - THE CHEAPEST GLOVE STOCK ON PLANET EARTH, IF NOT THE UNIVERSE

Yes duragonn, I humbly invite you to AT. Tomorrow is never too late.

Ini kalilah AT

The cheapest glove stock on planet Earth!!! And in fact the whole wide universe...

No wonder the last few trading days both AT and AT-WC shares have been moving up like nobody's business.

Expect limit up for both counters soon.

Glove is the word.

Pearl Glove .. medical glove .. genius Mak .. GOCEAN ..

Memang ini kalilah !!!

Hu hu my turn cannot trade today. Yesterday complaints of glitches on Rakuten and Maybank trading platforms. My platform cgs-cimb since morning till now quote screen is blank. Other screens are ok so not too bad lah. Can still perform other tasks and view some info and check other online sources. Experienced this glitch with warrants screen not too long ago. My previous trading platform long time no use so password invalid, need to contact service provider to reactivate.

Glove stocks including Harta are bullish today after yesterday's retracement but unfortunately cannot trade.

So frustrating, kinda like watching porn, cannot participate.

Sori, BINI LAMA, TUKAR BARU.

I sincerely believe that this new talam is now transforming for the better.

Main reason being that recently I received a video of the Tilam Lama guy on their new corporate slogan:

TILAM LAMA, PAKAI DULU
BINI LAMA, BELI BARU ..

Wah, no wonder on wed 31/7/2019, Hubline mother share price jumped a massive 11.1111% from 4.5 to 5.0 sen, with a mouth-watering volume of 21.8 million. Read the latest good news here:

- Borneo Post, 31/7/2019 - Hubline aims to be all-round logistics operator:
https://www.theborneopost.com/2019/07/31/hubline-aims-to-be-all-round-logistics-operator/

- The Edge Malaysia, 30/7/2019 - Insider Moves: ....Hubline Berhad, ....
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/insider-moves-apft-bhd-bahvest-resources-bhd-hubline-bhd-sin-heng-chan-m-bhd-iris-corp-bhd

The Borneo Post reported that Hubline is expanding its profitable dry bulk shipping by increasing its fleet of tugboats and barges, entering into air services for the lucrative oil and gas industry in Sarawak and Sabah waters with its recent 51% acquisition of Layang Layang Aerospace; and ever ready to enter land transport.

The Edge reported about the recent big acquisition of 55 million Hubline shares by Billion Power Sdn Bhd, one of the many acquisitions of large Hubline shares in the last few months by the directors and their related companies, in filings to Bursa Malaysia. More importantly, in the latest quarter report of 2019, Hubline recorded increased revenue and net profit.

So these good news have conspired to produce the starting momentum in Hubline shares now. Whether Hubline main share price continues an upward trajectory remains to be seen.

As for the warrants of Hubline, only the long-term WC exhibited volume trading on 31 July. Hubline-WA will expire in 96 days time on 4 Nov 2019 and is now at 0.5 sen. Hubline-WB looks yummy at 0.5 sen also, but should zoom up to 2 sen soon with its longer expiry date of 20 Dec 2020, in 508 days time.

Yes, the directors of I-Stone selling their shares at a very early stage right after listing is not good for morale. Mr. Market does not like it so the price went south for a while. Very anti-climax and nerve-wrecking. But then, the directors might have their reasons for selling and who are we to question. Probably they need to settle previous loans or need to upgrade to BIG CAR, BIG HOUSE, BIG WIVES !!!

So worry no more. This episode might turn out to be just a blip on our investing radar screen. Now we see volume surge and price movement again so soon after the price tsunami distraction.

I-Stone is an important element in Malaysia's quest on Industry 4.0. They do machine automation, precision manufacturing and probably Internet of Things (IoTs) as well. New integrated factory in Skudai looks impressive. Maybe a bit isolated from Penang where the manufacturing action is. But hey, they're right at the doorstep of Singapore, giving land-hungry and kiasu Singaporeans a run for their money.

Many of the directors of I-Stone are relatively young engineers with working experience in the manufacturing industry of Flextronics and Dyson, in Malaysia and Singapore. They started young and have motivated a team of equally determined workers to set up I-Stone. So all the best to them.

For now it's ok for the directors to enjoy the fruits of their labour by cashing out some of their shares. After all, they still have sackfuls of shares stashed in the barn.

Another worry is that at the moment this company is relying on one main customer, Dyson. But certainly this will change in the near future. As they grow and diversify, but hey not too diversified. Who knows, probably one day manufacturing and supplying components for Elon Musk's Starlink project.

So, by the grace of GOD let us the present shareholders be faithful believers and long-term investors in I-Stone.

LET'S ALL GET STONED !!!

INI KALILAH BOSSKU !!!*&%??!!!

Nothing to worry about, just a 4 sen downhill correction on an uphill march to 50 sen and beyond. Follow Gen Lee's Long March, a step backward, three steps forward. Fix bayonets, guys !!

Thanks viagra. I'm just doing my part to please God. In the hope that He rewards me with rocketing share prices. Do rest for now, nothing we can do to trade in our favour. Tomorrow morning we monitor the trade and inform God.

Please guys, be patient. As of now God is so busy responding to distress calls from Bursa players - value investors, day traders, Telegram/WeChat pumpers and dumpers, scammers and whatnot. However, God just WhatsApped me Himself that at most he's willing to push up I-Stone in the short term to 34 sen, twice the IPO price. For now, let he who subscribed IPO lock in profit. Happy investing/trading.

LET'S ALL GET STONED !!!

Hello maiflen DRWarrant, so nice to see you here. Long time no see. So morally uplifting and confident as usual.

Yes, I also just got excited with the present IPO mania. But only entered iStone just now and as of now at a loss. I might lose my pants today but better not miss this bus.

Now the price of iStone has retreated. But hopefully later today the stock gods and deities will work in tandem and use their unseen superpowers to push up the price to astronomical heights. Volume beyond 500m - potentially a Bursa record. PASTI TUJU LANGITTT!!!

I appreciate Mabel's wise and knowledgeable advice on iStone. I previously read her analysis on iStone's IPO proposal so was initially reluctant to enter. She has listed the pros and cons of investing in iStone. And she was even willing to entertain other users enquiries for free on other stocks. Muchos gracias Mabel.

But after seeing the missed chances on Greatec and UWC (but not Mestron's) IPOs and your WAR CRY of iSTONE reaching 50 or 80 sen I quietly tell myself WODIHEK, WHY NOT!!!

And in my present skewed view iStone has more pros than cons, relative to its peers.

Dyson has solid faith in iStone to manufacture parts for his consumer products, particularly vacuum cleaners. Malaysia was and is an important manufacturing hub for the successful entrepreneur and billionaire Sir James Dyson. Yes, Dyson the Richard Branson and Tony Fernandes combined and personified of manufacturing!!

So Dyson setting up shop in Singapore spells more future contracts for Malaysian manufactures like iStone. Let Dyson set up his global R&D centre in Singapore for his driverless car and battery. Let him escape Brexit and buy the most expensive apartment in the world atop Singapore's tallest. We just pray that Dyson's near and mere presence bring wealth and fortune to Malaysian companies, particularly iStone.

Hopefully your arch nemesis DON JUAN will not appear too soon to spoil the party. If he does, we stone him to death. But then, he might be too busy entertaining his many mistresses.

As one i3 user posted recently: I-STONE, E-STONE, U-STONE, HE/SHE-STONE. GET STONED!!! GOLLENNGGG TIMEEEE!!!!

LET'S GET STONED !!!!!!!!

A very green day indeed for Nexgram. Mother and son WC up by 25%. WB up by a massive 33.333%. Yee hah!!!

So Nexgram is rising like a phoenix from the ashes. Nothing can stop its rise, not even the naysayers and the skeptics. I was skeptical of Nexgram before but now I am a firm believer in it. Sorry Don Juan and others, I was on your side before due to my bad experience with Nexgram.

The recent material litigation by Spacious Glory Sdn Bhd seems to be immaterial, a non-event and have no effect on the present upward trajectory of Nexgram.

Yes, as some rightfully predict here, mother Nexgram will moon to 10-15 sen. Sons/daughters will reach their rightful levels of 3-5 sen. God willing, of course.

pea3034, if you're in Malaysia and have cimbclicks or maybank2u the best way to buy bitcoin is through luno.com. That's www.luno.com. Maybe too expensive now at rm70+k but never too late to join. If you do buy my advise is to hodl, not trade. Just hold on to it. Just a reminder - its more volatile than stocks. Higher risks but higher reward. Could shoot up, consolidate, flash crash or really crash. Invest on bitcoin what you can afford to lose. Your choice - invest wisely and please do your own research (DYOR).

snowball001, I pray to the gods and powers that be that you will not be flagged for promoting other stocks like Anzo or KESM on this Nexgram forum. Sawadikap.

Not too sure of Anzo though. But last time I got swallowed by the sharks in PUC when I arrived late at their pump and dump party. Silently sweared to myself never to look at PUC again. Then see what happened today? PUC shot up, arguably due to its soon launched e-money. So, never ignore Nexgram or Anzo. They might suddenly vroom. SURE JACKPOTTT ONE. PASTI ...TUJU ... LANGIT!!!

I also believe Dato Donald Lim the ex-minister will steer Nexgram to its deserved higher orbit and overdue recognition in Bursa. I am starting to be a believer in Nexgram, a born-again. As of now Nexgram is grossly under-rated. Good riddance to former non-performing executives and empty-shell companies in Seychelles. No more internal bickerings and courtroom dramas. On with Earth-shattering megaprojects NG!!! Sawadikap...JACKPOTTTT COMMINNGGG!!!

Bravo for the good news on Nexgram's latest contract bids TEEXIAN1840 - i) North Korea's ICBM launchers and ii) Big musang king plantation. So, surely Nexgram is on a trajectory to become a RM20b company soon. A reality that the naysayers at i3 will have to accept. Hence today we see mother share staring to break out of its 3.5-4 sen yoyo with orgasmic volume. A North Korean agent even managed to make daughter-WB parabolic +33.333333%, up from 1.5 to 2 sen, at the eleventh hour, albeit at 300 volume. So yes folks, ride the Nexgram flight now. I'm even considering of cancelling my booked flight to planet Nibiru this CNY to join NG.

Good proposal, change NEXGRAM to ONEGRAM. Or why not MAMMOGRAM? Actually, the older name of Nextnation has got better fungsui than Nexgram, according to my resident and consultant astrologer. But anyways, good tidings for NEXGRAM.

Mr. MAESTROz, where is the news source of the Qatar stadium contract and when announced? The last news about Nexgram is the cancellation of Angkasa Icon City with Seychelles company on 6 dec 2018. Ahem, you're Dr WA, I presume. Anyway your tp of RM45-130 is really fun. And good on you to be one of the few at i3 to talk about bitcoin. Yes I also entered bitcoin. But I regretted entering only a few months ago and with a small position. I should have entered 50 years ago and put everything in. I would be enjoying the sun in Bali by now and no need to work or write on the internet to earn a sen or two.

I admire your spirit in promoting Nexgram DrWA. However since now is nearing year end I believe I have better chance of hitting the jackpot at Toto (tipu olang tolong olang), Magnum and Kuda.

By the way where is AyamTua your milkboy and your good friend Don Juan? Also your Investlah sparring partners of OlyShyte, Leno, ahbah and Raider. Malaysia's Biggest Investment Forum really seems like a big, fat North Korean joke now. So sad...

So is Nexgram ... less than one gram now.

When will Nexgram ever learn? Please show us positive results and work progress, not another money laundering scheme. Seychelles is really synonymous with shell companies and offshore accounts. Dummy companies. You need the financial genius of Jho Low to succeed from such venture, JDA konon. Then better JDA with Johnson Lee for JJPTR Version 2.0. Why can't they start the Cyberjaya project on their own? Sorry to say this but to me this is just a cheap election gimmick. The old cock is no longer crowing. Meaning the beginning of the end for Nexgram.

You're right Tigerchan. The penny stock and warrant specialist DrW seems to be MIA. His devoted and faithful follower Mr. old AyamTua also seldom appear and maybe busy nursing Glotec. Nobody to defend and promote Nexgram now. Very vulnerable to the attacks of mighty DON_JUAN and the now silent WhiteWarrior, a former insider of Nexgram.

Now Nexgram really sounds like JJPTR. Using the good name of Hj. Norzain to lure unsuspecting investors. And ignoring the influential but negative TPY-TPC effect on Nexgram. Still trying to con people even with consistently bad QRs and no proof of progress work at RM1.45 billion Putrajaya/Cyberjaya and RM338 million BB Enstek project sites. Soon someone will claim that Nexgram is deeply involved in the planning of Malaysia Vision Valley, recently launched by our very much beloved and honorable Prime Minister. However, Nexgram's fortune could change like that of Glotec's - the formerly dormant stock of the patient and religious Mr. OLD AYAM tua. Glotec's recent meeoric rise is due to a combination of buzzwords - CBM Indonesia, Nu Energy Australia - and Ayam Tua's soothing mantras of AMITABHA, MUSTI KUAT SIMAYANG and PASTI TUJU LANGIT. Rather unfortunate that here DRwarrant is employing the talented AyamTua as a mere milk boy. But yes, dream on that Nexgram will fly like Glotec. No harm done.

That's right Teh Diven. Many of us have lost tons of money in this AT stock. Yet some people still dare to ask us to buy despite the negative results. I doubt they are really sincere in their posts.

The latest QR of AT released on 28 April is a real disappointment. Reduced revenue and a much bigger loss. So where is the proof that the company is performing and having multiple productions generating revenue and profit? Price of stocks not doing well - just ding dong or keep on falling. Even very cheap sale also no buyers, especially the useless warrants. Still want to trap people? Imnvesting should not be basaed on hope and propaganda, but on reality, facts and good fundamentals, which AT is surely lacking. Enough said.

Also DRwarrant, please explain why your Nexgram cannot get the big Cyberjaya project off the ground even after so many donkeys years of being awarded the project? And is the "new" management really free from the clutches of a shaddy and notorious character deeply associated with the Protasco fiasco?