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2021-02-16 08:36 | Report Abuse
@Jolin888
Good effort. Let us all HUAT CHAI together...
Patience is the key. Knowledge is also important to avoid some barking human from keep distracting and misleading people around us.
HUAT CHAI to you.
2021-02-16 08:32 | Report Abuse
@Paperplane
I do not know why that fella loves to BARK everyday ...maybe his owner feeds him everyday....
Thank for defending our stands...
To all investors who are looking for opportunity to earn from Arbitrage, please ignore Pretty_Life
CONTINUE to BUY and HOLD
2021-02-16 08:31 | Report Abuse
@Paperplane
Good justification which is very much prudent.
This is indeed a good chance to earn via Arbitrage and many investors do not even know. Our roles here is to ensure that correct and reasonable information is made available to everyone so that the cakes are shared to everyone and NOT ONLY Syndicates/Sharks
BUY CALL - Buy and Hold till the Redemption Date
2021-02-16 08:28 | Report Abuse
Pretty_Life
If you are not buying BIMB WA, please leave this chat room.
And you are misleading everyday. Since when I quoted and said RM1.04?
I just agreed with PaperPlane calculation and justification.
Please do not be so childish and keep misleading people.
2021-02-16 06:02 | Report Abuse
RM1.04 is still a prudent number
My side calculated based on Optimistic and Pessimistic Scenario, arrive at RM1.08 as the Intrinsic Value for the WA without taking into consideration the Premium
As such, the current value of BIMB WA of RM0.385 is very much and too undervalued. I do not think the Warrantholders will approve for such redemption consideration. Not to forget there are Foreign Warrantholders who bought this WA at higher value.
In conclusion, WA holders should be demanding more.
This is another reason why Sharks/Syndicates keep on disturbing and distracting or creating fear among all other WA holders who do not understand the underlying concept and the substance of this proposed transaction.
BUY CALL - Buy and Hold and Do Not Sell
2021-02-16 06:02 | Report Abuse
RM1.04 is still a prudent number
My side calculated based on Optimistic and Pessimistic Scenario, arrive at RM1.08 as the Intrinsic Value for the WA without taking into consideration the Premium
As such, the current value of BIMB WA of RM0.385 is very much and too undervalued. I do not think the Warrantholders will approve for such redemption consideration. Not to forget there are Foreign Warrantholders who bought this WA at higher value.
In conclusion, WA holders should be demanding more.
This is another reason why Sharks/Syndicates keep on disturbing and distracting or creating fear among all other WA holders who do not understand the underlying concept and the substance of this proposed transaction.
BUY CALL - Buy and Hold and Do Not Sell
2021-02-15 21:52 | Report Abuse
Envestor, our group increases our stake everyday is to show our COMMITMENT towards this MONEY BACK GUARANTEE scheme.
Do you think we have a lot of money to play or fool with?
We are very serious because I called to IR Department to speak to Sarina for more than 4 times already
We are very firm.
2021-02-15 21:50 | Report Abuse
Envestor, please go to KLSE and download Announcement on 29 Jan 2021.
Remember Conversion of WA to Ordinary Shares is TOTALLY OUT OF SCOPE and IRRELEVANT in this Corporate Exercise
So please ignore the price of Mother Shares and Premium
fzy1388, 很多是大鳄的爪牙。我被他们对付因为说实话,但是我见招拆招。
2021-02-15 21:38 | Report Abuse
上面我已经很清楚的说明了,强行收购,内部重组,和套利这几个字眼。Conversion of WA to Ordinary Shares is NOT RELEVANT and OUT OF SCOPE, so stop talking about Mother Shares and Premium.
如果你还是冥顽不灵, 我只能当成你不是人了。
The above comments given by me include VWAP for the last 5 days, my Group Stake as a commitment to the Arbitrage (Money Back Guarantee Investment) and Example to show that Conversion of WA to Ordinary Shares is NOT RELEVANT.
2021-02-15 21:37 | Report Abuse
你不是人了,你应该是禽兽了。
如果你继续制造恐慌,清离开这个平台,别继续误导散户
2021-02-15 21:36 | Report Abuse
上面我已经很清楚的说明了,强行收购,内部重组,和套利这几个字眼。Conversion of WA to Ordinary Shares is NOT RELEVANT and OUT OF SCOPE, so stop talking about Mother Shares and Premium.
如果你还是冥顽不灵, 我只能当成你不是人了。
The above comments given by me include VWAP for the last 5 days, my Group Stake as a commitment to the Arbitrage (Money Back Guarantee Investment) and Example to show that Conversion of WA to Ordinary Shares is NOT RELEVANT.
2021-02-15 21:31 | Report Abuse
Pretty_Life, please do not speak Non Sense again, kindly refer to Announcement Made on 29/01/2021
Take note everyone, this fella keep on misleading when he or she does not want to refer to Announcement on 29/01/2021 to face the FACT and REALITY
切勿一直误导散户。别一直乱乱制造恐慌。会有报应的
2021-02-15 21:27 | Report Abuse
Again, congratulations to my team again for their efforts and thank to the Syndicates for selling their WA to my team members. Our stakes have been increasing again to 9.91% as of 15 Feb 2021.
As at 09/02/2021 - 8.45%
As at 10/02/2021 - 9.04%
As at 11/02/2021 - 9.50%
As at 15/02/2021 - 9.91%
The above result shows that we are serious in taking opportunity to earn more from this corporate exercise. Reminder again, Arbitrage is different from normal conversion of WA to Ordinary Shares because this involves mandatory redemption by BIMB Holdings to ensure completion of its Internal Reorganisation.
BIMB-WA-VWAP (Volume Weighted Average Price) for the last 5 trading days
As at 08/02/2021 - RM0.3702
As at 09/02/2021 - RM0.3806
As at 10/02/2021 - RM0.3958
As at 11/02/2021 - RM0.3890
As at 15/02/2021 - RM0.3901
Average of the 5-Day VWAPs = RM0.3851
Due to the above higher VWAP, there is no one including Syndicates or Sharks willing to press down the VWAP because the highest the VWAP, the higher the Redemption Consideration to be paid by BIMB Holdings.
Illustration/Example:-
Take example, even though today (15/2/2021) closing price is RM0.385 and assuming just now evening BIMB made announcement that tomorrow is the Price Setting Date, the holders of WA will still be rewarded with the price of RM0.3851 even though the share price at the closing was RM0.3850 only. Furthermore, Mandatory Redemption via the Corporate Exercise means there will be NO BROKERAGE FEES, NO TAXES incurred by the WA Holders because this is an Arbitrage and the Issuer (BIMB Holdings) will handle everything and WA Holders only need to wait for MONEY to be deposited into your accounts.
Please be informed that the above is an example as the Price Fixing Day will not be in February 2021 after I reconfirmed again this afternoon (total calls made to BIMB = 5 times this months)
请大家别中大鳄的圈套,因为这次的套利机会根本不会跟母股的价格和 Premium 扯上任何的关系,母股就算是低过4块钱,也无关,因为母公司将会为了内部重组,不惜任何代价跟凭单持有者强行收购,最后定价是在最后定价日的前5天的平均VWAP。请看看我们组合的总体持有%,这个肯定不是玩玩的,大鳄非常的自私,想一个独吞全部的套利机会,故而制造出很多骇人惊闻,包括继续派爪牙制造和传播不正确的讯息,派人来假意投诚我们,封锁一些好汉在这里传播正确消息的权益,现在联合媒体也用上了,大家是聪明人,不用我解释那么明了吧!总之一句,大鳄慌了,大家继续把他们团团围堵,逼着大鳄为我们所用,一起赚钱。
2021-02-15 21:27 | Report Abuse
Again, congratulations to my team again for their efforts and thank to the Syndicates for selling their WA to my team members. Our stakes have been increasing again to 9.91% as of 15 Feb 2021.
As at 09/02/2021 - 8.45%
As at 10/02/2021 - 9.04%
As at 11/02/2021 - 9.50%
As at 15/02/2021 - 9.91%
The above result shows that we are serious in taking opportunity to earn more from this corporate exercise. Reminder again, Arbitrage is different from normal conversion of WA to Ordinary Shares because this involves mandatory redemption by BIMB Holdings to ensure completion of its Internal Reorganisation.
BIMB-WA-VWAP (Volume Weighted Average Price) for the last 5 trading days
As at 08/02/2021 - RM0.3702
As at 09/02/2021 - RM0.3806
As at 10/02/2021 - RM0.3958
As at 11/02/2021 - RM0.3890
As at 15/02/2021 - RM0.3901
Average of the 5-Day VWAPs = RM0.3851
Due to the above higher VWAP, there is no one including Syndicates or Sharks willing to press down the VWAP because the highest the VWAP, the higher the Redemption Consideration to be paid by BIMB Holdings.
Illustration/Example:-
Take example, even though today (15/2/2021) closing price is RM0.385 and assuming just now evening BIMB made announcement that tomorrow is the Price Setting Date, the holders of WA will still be rewarded with the price of RM0.3851 even though the share price at the closing was RM0.3850 only. Furthermore, Mandatory Redemption via the Corporate Exercise means there will be NO BROKERAGE FEES, NO TAXES incurred by the WA Holders because this is an Arbitrage and the Issuer (BIMB Holdings) will handle everything and WA Holders only need to wait for MONEY to be deposited into your accounts.
Please be informed that the above is an example as the Price Fixing Day will not be in February 2021 after I reconfirmed again this afternoon (total calls made to BIMB = 5 times this months)
请大家别中大鳄的圈套,因为这次的套利机会根本不会跟母股的价格和 Premium 扯上任何的关系,母股就算是低过4块钱,也无关,因为母公司将会为了内部重组,不惜任何代价跟凭单持有者强行收购,最后定价是在最后定价日的前5天的平均VWAP。请看看我们组合的总体持有%,这个肯定不是玩玩的,大鳄非常的自私,想一个独吞全部的套利机会,故而制造出很多骇人惊闻,包括继续派爪牙制造和传播不正确的讯息,派人来假意投诚我们,封锁一些好汉在这里传播正确消息的权益,现在联合媒体也用上了,大家是聪明人,不用我解释那么明了吧!总之一句,大鳄慌了,大家继续把他们团团围堵,逼着大鳄为我们所用,一起赚钱。
2021-02-15 21:04 | Report Abuse
Everyone can just ignore Pretty_Life already. It seems like he or she likes to talk non sense.
How to relate the mother share and premium when we are not talking about the conversion of warrant to mother shares under normal circumstances.
We are talking about Arbitrage and even if the mother shares go down to below RM4.00. It does not matter because the issuer, BIMB Holdings will still redeem it because BIMB wants to ensure the successful completion of Internal Reorganisation to split Takaful to be a separate stand alone entity.
I think this Pretty Life is talking non sense and his or her syndication is of the lowest standards I have ever seen.
Remember and reminder to all, Arbitrage is different from the usual or normal conversion of Warrant to Ordinary Shares.
Pretty Life and some other people above are MISLEADING you people. Because this is an ARBITRAGE.
2021-02-15 21:04 | Report Abuse
Everyone can just ignore Pretty_Life already. It seems like he or she likes to talk non sense.
How to relate the mother share and premium when we are not talking about the conversion of warrant to mother shares under normal circumstances.
We are talking about Arbitrage and even if the mother shares go down to below RM4.00. It does not matter because the issuer, BIMB Holdings will still redeem it because BIMB wants to ensure the successful completion of Internal Reorganisation to split Takaful to be a separate stand alone entity.
I think this Pretty Life is talking non sense and his or her syndication is of the lowest standards I have ever seen.
Remember and reminder to all, Arbitrage is different from the usual or normal conversion of Warrant to Ordinary Shares.
Pretty Life and some other people above are MISLEADING you people. Because this is an ARBITRAGE.
2021-02-15 17:05 | Report Abuse
In this game, no one will be losing except BIMB Holdings because BIMB Holdings will be paying us based on the VWAP 5 days preceeding the Price Fixing Day
This is Arbitrage, WIN WIN situation, so no need to worry. We will continue to ensure that we spread positive news and information to avoid retail investors from panic selling. Because no need to sell, end of the day BIMB Holdings will buy from us.
Pretty Life is brainless, talk non sense non stop
Tomorrow we continue to queue and form a block to the Syndicates or Sharks... This game requires PATIENCE. For sure we are better than the SHARKS because the Sharks cost is too high already
2021-02-15 17:05 | Report Abuse
In this game, no one will be losing except BIMB Holdings because BIMB Holdings will be paying us based on the VWAP 5 days preceeding the Price Fixing Day
This is Arbitrage, WIN WIN situation, so no need to worry. We will continue to ensure that we spread positive news and information to avoid retail investors from panic selling. Because no need to sell, end of the day BIMB Holdings will buy from us.
Pretty Life is brainless, talk non sense non stop
Tomorrow we continue to queue and form a block to the Syndicates or Sharks... This game requires PATIENCE. For sure we are better than the SHARKS because the Sharks cost is too high already
2021-02-15 16:59 | Report Abuse
Pretty Life is brainless one
just ignore her
Good job already because we delay the time for the Sharks to collect cheap WA
2021-02-15 16:58 | Report Abuse
Pretty Life is brainless one
just ignore her
Good job already because we delay the time for the Sharks to collect cheap WA
2021-02-15 16:45 | Report Abuse
Pretty Life, please open your eyes big big
Where is the >10 million army at selling price RM0.40
All are fake and because all of us are smart enough and do not want to be fallen into the victim of panic selling, so now Syndicates and Sharks have to give up already
Pretty Life confirmed is from Syndicates or Sharks already .....
Laugh die me ..selling army at RM0.40
大鳄可以回乡下耕田,每天用同样招数。我们一起见招拆招,将计就计。把大鳄围死,堵死他
2021-02-15 16:45 | Report Abuse
Pretty Life, please open your eyes big big
Where is the >10 million army at selling price RM0.40
All are fake and because all of us are smart enough and do not want to be fallen into the victim of panic selling, so now Syndicates and Sharks have to give up already
Pretty Life confirmed is from Syndicates or Sharks already .....
Laugh die me ..selling army at RM0.40
大鳄可以回乡下耕田,每天用同样招数。我们一起见招拆招,将计就计。把大鳄围死,堵死他
2021-02-15 16:22 | Report Abuse
The selling pressure is a fake signal and illusion
If the syndicates wanna sell they will sell the WA last week already
The Syndicates form a block of more than 10 million selling army at RM0.40 to create panic and tension among retail investors who are not firm in their decision
I hope everyone will keep on buying and holding. Let's us give pressure to the Syndicates
这是有史以来,大鳄最烂的一次。安排很多爪牙乱乱散播假消息,企图误导散户。过后又派人假意投诚,今天操控媒体炒作新闻。
这大鳄可以会乡下耕田了。大鳄一直吓人就是要收集便宜的凭单,太自私了,大家每天就是这样合作团团围着大鳄,给他们一个教训。
2021-02-15 16:22 | Report Abuse
The selling pressure is a fake signal and illusion
If the syndicates wanna sell they will sell the WA last week already
The Syndicates form a block of more than 10 million selling army at RM0.40 to create panic and tension among retail investors who are not firm in their decision
I hope everyone will keep on buying and holding. Let's us give pressure to the Syndicates
这是有史以来,大鳄最烂的一次。安排很多爪牙乱乱散播假消息,企图误导散户。过后又派人假意投诚,今天操控媒体炒作新闻。
这大鳄可以会乡下耕田了。大鳄一直吓人就是要收集便宜的凭单,太自私了,大家每天就是这样合作团团围着大鳄,给他们一个教训。
2021-02-15 15:19 | Report Abuse
Just buy and hold
Only selfish syndicates wanna mislead ppl to sell now because we could see the syndicates could not move at all
Buying pressure is strong
Then selling pressure at 10 mio at 0.40 make me laugh non stop
Lousy tactic
2021-02-15 14:56 | Report Abuse
Pretty life is a liar... Pretty life want ppl to sell then collect at lower price
Your tactic is too lousy d
2021-02-15 14:41 | Report Abuse
pretty life
Don't mess up everything
Time will prove that I am right
大鳄烂到连媒体都拿来炒作新闻,笑死人。这只是我看到最烂的大鳄,最没有水准的syndicates
可以回乡下耕田了
2021-02-15 14:38 | Report Abuse
You are childish and funny.
Among all syndicates, your syndication is really the lousiest
Everyone will just ignore your nonsense and keep buying and holding only
2021-02-15 14:29 | Report Abuse
pretty life
Your comments can't be a bit creative ar
Takkan you don't have anything quality to say alrrady
Only one reason... You are from syndicate and your role is to mislead ppl by spreading wrong information. And you always lie
That is the only simple reason
2021-02-15 14:28 | Report Abuse
To all lousy syndicate agents
Please stop all the nonsensical noise and topic that will mislead retail investors
This is a way to earn from arbitrage and your big bosses behind are so selfish that wanna earn alone
The cake is so big and yet you ppl wanna earn alone. Damn selfish
Everyone please continue to buy and hold. At the end we are the winner to decide the redemtpion price
2021-02-15 14:26 | Report Abuse
To all lousy syndicate agents
Please stop all the nonsensical noise and topic that will mislead retail investors
This is a way to earn from arbitrage and your big bosses behind are so selfish that wanna earn alone
The cake is so big and yet you ppl wanna earn alone. Damn selfish
Everyone please continue to buy and hold. At the end we are the winner to decide the redemtpion price
2021-02-15 13:30 | Report Abuse
simple reason
Even my niece who used to look at me doing trading tell me That this is a trick To create fear among all retail investors
In short, syndicates wanna collect cheap BIMB WA before pushing up
Use logic and brain then u will know
2021-02-15 13:28 | Report Abuse
Paperplane we all go to lodge report to government authorities with the help of okdo
He knew lot of gov officer... No play play ONe
2021-02-15 13:25 | Report Abuse
everyone just hold and don't sell
If can queue at 0.39, 0.395
Sure the syndicate could not afford wasting time here.. Bco time is Limited and BIMB WA is limited also
Sooner, the syndicates will be compelled to buy even it is expensive
2021-02-15 13:21 | Report Abuse
okdoke
let's go to lodge police report and report to KPDNKK
If you raise petition, please let me know.. I will bring more supporters
2021-02-15 13:20 | Report Abuse
Those who trust the press media contents which are bias towards the syndicate are totally brainless
No one even the sharks or syndicates want to get lower VWAP when they could aim higher
The sharks and syndicates have no other methods already but to abuse or misuse media to continue create panic among retail investors or mislead investors
Everyone please continue to queue and buy and hold, Syndicate has no time already because the price fixing date is coming soon after Feb
大鳄时间不够了,因为三月可能会定价了,大家一起联手把大鳄逼着帮我们工作。真爽。
大鳄已经没有路了,被逼到用媒体,笑死人。这种下三滥招数,骗三岁小孩可以。
2021-02-15 13:16 | Report Abuse
LuckyWinner
You are totally brainless
Press also you believe and you think twice before commenting
No one even the sharks or syndicates want to get lower VWAP when they could aim higher
The sharks and syndicates have no other methods already but to abuse or misuse media to continue create panic among retail investors or mislead investors
Everyone please continue to queue and buy and hold, Syndicate has no time already because the price fixing date is coming soon after Feb
大鳄时间不够了,因为三月可能会定价了,大家一起联手把大鳄逼着帮我们工作。真爽。
大鳄已经没有路了,被逼到用媒体,笑死人。这种下三滥招数,骗三岁小孩可以。
LuckyWinner I think this name should be renamed to LousyLoser
2021-02-15 10:11 | Report Abuse
The Syndicates/Sharks have come out with their tactics already.
Now, they use the media/press (e NanYang Press) to inform retail investors not to be be fallen into a victim of BIMB WA. They quoted GameStop and Top Glove as examples.
I think the writer does not know what is Arbitrage at all. They used Apple (GameStop and Top Glove) to compare with Orange (BIMB WA).
In this case, I should use Diamond for BIMB WA. It is so funny that they even use the press to manipulate market which indirectly mislead retail investors. I hope everyone stay calm and continue to BUY and HOLD.
The intention behind is that Syndicates/Sharks need to collect more WA before pushing them to higher price.
BUY CALL and HOLD.
2021-02-15 10:09 | Report Abuse
The Syndicates/Sharks have come out with their tactics already.
Now, they use the media/press (e NanYang Press) to inform retail investors not to be be fallen into a victim of BIMB WA. They quoted GameStop and Top Glove as examples.
I think the writer does not know what is Arbitrage at all. They used Apple (GameStop and Top Glove) to compare with Orange (BIMB WA).
In this case, I should use Diamond for BIMB WA. It is so funny that they even use the press to manipulate market which indirectly mislead retail investors. I hope everyone stay calm and continue to BUY and HOLD.
The intention behind is that Syndicates/Sharks need to collect more WA before pushing them to higher price.
BUY CALL and HOLD.
2021-02-15 09:48 | Report Abuse
use your brain Pretty Life...I will ignore your message from now on wards
Up and down is normal at this stage because Syndicates wanna collect more tickets
if you do not know ....you go play card game...no need to play share already
It is so obvious that syndicates purposely put a block because syndicates wanna collect more ticket..that all
2021-02-15 09:30 | Report Abuse
Talk non sense again
Your view is too swallow..... Share of course got up and down....
Syndicate is controlling buying and selling pressures because wanna collect more before pushing up
I think after scenery, you are another one really need to go back to school to study more
Anyhow say 0.005 very very childish
2021-02-15 09:26 | Report Abuse
Ignore pretty_life
This fella always mislead people
Not first time this fella mentioned 0.005
Explain please since you said you are so pro. Explain
Pretty_life talks non sense again
If every time u talk non sense, next time no one is going to trust you anymore
2021-02-15 08:28 | Report Abuse
Then the policy here is not transparent and not fair if the admin block or ban MalaysianIB_HongKong just because someone reported him abuse.
How if he is really a syndicate?
How aut those who spread wrong and irrelevant information to mislead investors?
个人觉得不能有双重标准 this will constitute double standards problem
2021-02-15 08:13 | Report Abuse
KL Lee... Bow we are not talking bout the mother shares...
We are using the mother share forum to also talk about it's warrant that is a good arbitrage opportunity
Please do not mess up and then indirectly mislead ppl
Again I reiterate... We are talking about the arbitrage from internal reorganisation involvng redemption of BIMB wa
2021-02-15 08:10 | Report Abuse
Just take example here
Arbitrage. I think 90% investors know bursa do not know
That why Lo... Only can become a normal person
Only can become a person who always mislead people by sharing wrong information
Especially some of our friends above...
This is lousy especially when I have experience dealing with IBs from around the world.... Note some lousy syndication here
2021-02-15 08:06 | Report Abuse
@CharlesT
When see things do not just see one face...
见山不是山
你懂吗?
When everyone is thinking like how you think,, I think differently bcoz this is an arbitrage where by the syndicates will earn more when the Vwap up.. All huat
The HK IB is a friend of one of our top 30 warrant holders.....
看东西别那么死板。。。。不然你们永远就是凡人
有时候坏人也要当成好人来用,这是高招
2021-02-15 00:59 | Report Abuse
FYI, the MalaysianIB_HongKong, LipakSungguh, fzy1388 and I have been blocked before.
I heard MalaysianIB_HongKong
I hope that the admin here be fair and be more transparent.
I understand that the power or ultimate controller of this i3 is situated in Hong Kong.
Please be fair and transparent. Orelse, everyone will be lodging complaint and i think the reliability and confidence of Investors will be lost when this platform is not fair anymore
2021-02-15 00:54 | Report Abuse
@paperplane, thank for being fair in your stand.
FYI, the MalaysianIB_HongKong, LipakSungguh, fzy1388 and I have been blocked before.
I heard MalaysianIB_HongKong
I hope that the admin here be fair and be more transparent.
I understand that the power or ultimate controller of this i3 is situated in Hong Kong.
Please be fair and transparent. Orelse, everyone will be lodging complaint and i think the reliability and confidence of Investors will be lost when this platform is not fair anymore
Stock: [BIMB]: BANK ISLAM MALAYSIA BERHAD
2021-02-16 09:12 | Report Abuse
The Syndicates/Sharks play with Left Hand Out, Right Hand In.
Everyday same tactics, it is so so boring now. They have no other creative method to lure investor from selling their WA already....
大鳄/庄家每天同样手段,自己卖,自己买,自己拍,自己画图,他们不闷吗?
已经麻木了,吓不了散户的