iloveshare128 : Again, i am not saying that RGB is a bad company... what I wanted to say is... even if you want to buy a good share, you should buy at cheap price (with margin of safety)... RGB's growth may be there, but it could have been over-exaggerated with its "highly-goreng" price now.....
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You no need to say others thing, just say what share you recommend is enough.

And when asking what share to recommend that fulfil your share selection criteria, you just give excuses. Come on show something.

When Cold Eye silently collected RGB (I guess around 10sen or lower), did he openly recommend this stock to you and I? When he has accumulated enough shares, he openly recommended this share and it is time he is looking for a good price to sell...
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Just read back what are you are saying......Cold eye give talk for free. You are only thinking he is going to do sell after his talk. Who is real narrow-minded thinking ???

When you always thinking people cheating you, how can you be success?

They have no ability to foresee the prospect of the company and only focus on his mathematic sifu.

Paperplane , If RGB reach 0.30, still will people jump out continue saying。。。0.19 overvalue.....0.23 overvalue....0.25 overvalue.....0.30 overvalue....but they never think company keep on growing and show better and better results.

When Cold Eye silently collected RGB (I guess around 10sen or lower), did he openly recommend this stock to you and I? When he has accumulated enough shares, he openly recommended this share and it is time he is looking for a good price to sell... please think of the logic yourself... at 10sen, yes, RGB is undervalued, at current price... hmmm... i have told you the valuation...
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Even cold eye did not openly recommend, this stock still will going up due to future value of this company. 不要以小人之心，渡君子之腹。你将永远原地踏步。以你目前的思维，相信你在股市还没有任何成就。

I strongly believe you are too young to understand investment world. Maybe after you prove yourself your philosophy is working (only you know base on your investment return), then only give advice to all of us.

iloveshare128 : many experts here claimed they are better than KC Chong.. that is funny.. haha... does KC Chong use EV/EBIT or EV/EBITDA a lot? the answer is definitely yes... so you guys are smarter than KC Chong sifu in terms of calculating intrinsic value...
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Again I can confirmed with you......calculating intrinsic value by using P/BV, EV/EBIT or EV/EBITDA is not the best way. I rather focus on FCF, future growing, dividend grow to assess future value than rely on calculate existing or past intrinsic value in my stock selection.

When you work as an analyst in investment bank, P/BV, EV/EBIT ,EV/EBITDA ect ...become more important to report to your boss and also articles publish to the public. Without this beautiful calculations, your analysis report seems no standard. But this can't help much in real investment return. By right, other things that are more important.......understand company business, future business progress, top management attitude, even visit to company's top management to understand the business and the boss attitude are much more important.

If you attend and listen to cold eye talk this Saturday, you will understand what I say here. Why cold eye so successful ? He only apply
G – Growth 成长
D – Dividend 股息
P – Price (PER) 价值
P – Profit 盈利
R – ROE 股东回酬
C – Cash Flow 营运现金流

“复杂的事简单做，简单的事正确做，正确的事常常做。”

No even touch P/BV, EV/EBIT ,EV/EBITDA. Maybe as what you say "KC Chong use EV/EBIT or EV/EBITDA a lot " is more successful than cold eye in investment world.

Close 0.22。。。。2 days close with Hammer....... 美到。。。

When people asking me this share can buy ar ?
What is the target price ?
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I already know you are entering to share market with wrong perceptions.
If you want to buy shares just because want to sell it in short term for fast money, you are more tend to gambling in share market. Even though you earn money this time, how about next....next....and next time? For sure you will loss your money some days. When asking "this share can buy" or "what is the target price" means you didn't look it seriously in your investment. You are too rely on my buy call decision. By right, you should read the RGB's articles we post here and go study further for reconfirmation before making any decision. Money is the most important thing for investor. Don't simply put your money in share market without in depth study. Your money, only you can decide. Never ask others because he or she may be an lousy investor than you are.

kql0003 ：dudu tai lo, still can buy ah ,22c
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这里有关RGB的资料，到今年为止进度算完善了。自己分析，自己决定。因为你赚钱我不会跟你拿，亏钱我也不会赔你。跟冷眼师傅学习，不断成长。

Uncle Lim get big pay got reason lah...... regardless to genting make big money. you go 打听打听

tooky61，some sensitive issue can not openly disclose here. As you says management get to enjoy big pay and big esos. I can not directly commend here.

Just give you hint : Genting Boss Uncle Lim also receive big pay every year (highest in Malaysia).

Regarding dividend pay out.....financial yr 2016 dividend pay out no issue lah. But need patient a bit......can not too detail disclose.

冯老师傅的教诲 ：

投资者所面对的是股市和上市公司，两者都是投资者无能为力的。投资者永远是站在被动的地位，无法改变股市的动向，也无法左右上市公司的业绩，在这种情形下，投资者要在股市求胜，最好的方法是加强本身的致胜条件。

重点来了。。。。。
这些条件就是所买的，必须是基本面强稳而前景亮丽的优质股，而且买价要合理。如此一来，投资者已立于不败之地，即使股价短期下跌，长期来说，必因业绩的上升而强力回弹，使投资者反败为胜。

Little snake big big, technical movement need to get your advice lah.......

0.215 close.......sui sui bo zao zui

0.21 压不下 ？？再来 big volume dump.....mari mari.....

Iloveshare128, of couse i won't talk about others share here. We can talk the share you recommend in that particular share platform. Show us your opinions is working and convince us to accept? We even don't know who you are and you didn't even recommend a single good share for us.

When challenge iloveshare128 to show which share worth to buy, (we want to analyse) he straight silent. So many theory and math but 无用武之地。

iloveshare 128, I am so curious to know what share worth to buy now?
And what share you have in hand?
Do you mind to share? Then I will know better your position.

I don't know who is KC Chong. But I know investment is not only mathematic.
I share my sifu investment philosophy as below , no difficult mathematic, simple calculations, but can do successfully in share market. But can you?

冷眼先生选股精髓就在以下。这已经排除了NTA。

G – Growth 成长
D – Dividend 股息
P – Price (PER) 价值
P – Profit 盈利
R – ROE 股东回酬
C – Cash Flow 营运现金流

Give you this baby.....
“复杂的事简单做，简单的事正确做，正确的事常常做。”

P/BV & EV/EBIT are good methods to know if a share price is overvalued or not.. i agree that cash flow, dividends and growth are important too.. did i say they are not important? they are equally important.. but what I wanted to say is, I prefer to look for shares that fulfill as many criteria as possible (good cash flow, low EV/EBIT, low P/BV, good dividend, etc)...

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1) I want to ask you what share fulfil your above all criteria?
2) Your sell call is just because EV/EBIT and P/BV no fulfil?
If that is the story, you are based on EV/EBIT and P/BV to decide your investment.
And seems like all math teacher is super investors. Hihi......

EV/EBITDA is even much better than EV/EBIT.

EV/EBIT is slightly slightly slightl better than PE, but it doesn't bring much different to reflect the potential of one company.

EV/EBIT is still not low... => Of course lah baby, because for evaluation purpose EV/EBIT is almost similar to PE.

iloveshare128 : P/BV and EV/EBIT is a good way to calculate its intrinsic value...
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Even though Cold eye 77 years old, he keep on improving investment method. Still using P/BV for calculate its intrinsic value ?? Laugh die people lo...

修正2投资观点：

1.现金流比债务重要:

以往冷眼很关注债务问题，会避开欠债累累的公司。不过，现在不同了，反而以现金流为投资标准之一。

“现金流才是决定一家公司是否面对倒闭风险的关键，而不是债务。”

而他投资在亚洲航空（AIRASIA，5099，主板贸服股），就是最佳的证明。

亚航截至今年6月30日总债务为107亿令吉，换做是以前的他，肯定不会碰这只股。

他说，虽然亚航债务庞大，但卖机票收现金，加上业务有增长，这意味着收到的钱足以还债。由此可见，债务高不代表公司不好，反而现金流才是关键。

2.资产净值非关键指标:

一家公司的净有形资产价值，曾经是冷眼的投资标准之一，但现在不再是关键指标，因为他发现这和股价没有关联。

“导致股价上升的是公司盈利，而非净有形资产。”

以雀巢（NESTLE，4707，主板消费产品股）为例，根据计算，该股截至今年9月30日每股净有形资产价值介于2.91令吉，但上周三（26日）的闭市价却达78.40令吉，这直接反映出股价和净有形资产价值没有直接关系。

“这是因为即使净有形资产价值很高，但公司也不能够分给投资者，所以对于股价上升没有帮助。”

他补充，他注重盈利和股息，因这才是促进投资价值的关键。

针对在网上流传冷眼之前发布的多篇分享集文章，他呼吁，他已经修正投资观点，希望读者留意他投资观点的转变。

要击败“致人而不致于人”的计谋，最好的方法，是低价买进基本面强稳，前途亮丽的优质股，不动如山，等到股值被严重高估时，就一走了之，则炒家和假股市都无计可施，投资者可以取得“全胜”。

记住，要不动如山，严重高估时才卖出 !!

tooky61, you are absolutely right. 这3项是其中最重要的。P/BV这个已经是10年前被淘汰的分析指标。

Other than bluechips : OFI, Hupseng, VS, Hevea, Liihen, Luchem, Esceram, suncon ect. if you use P/BV, how to ride on the up tren of these shares?

if you want to apply P/BV, I recommend you Kekseng, Planitude, GOB, Asiapac, E&O, Orient, OSK, FACB, KSL, Trop, bjland and landmark. All these fulfil your requirement. But you invest at your own risk.

publawyer678 : NTA of nestle RM2.81, share price RM79.00
If Nestle were to trade at the same P/BV as RGB, the share price should be <RM5.00 and not RM79.00. Understand?

Yalor, unbelievable !! Nowadays still got smart investors using P/BV to evaluate company meh?

look at P/BV and enterprise multiple of RGB, obviously it is overvalued at current share price... u buy now, very high chance to be trapped......

Referring too many investment bank analysis, where they usually look at P/BV. P/BV can not apply to all field of business. 投资分析不能死死用 P/BV。而且这个P/BV在投资上不是很有用的分析指标。随便几拿只股好像Nestle，Dlady，QL，Kawan来说，用P/BV来做标准，根本是盲点处处。

When gadang's price up tripple from RM1.2 to RM3.30 within 14 months, still got a lot of people buying. No body says it is over value and high chance to be trapped. Whereby gadang is a construction company, construction income margin is not stable. So PE should no be high, even PE10 is consider high.

0.22 also overvalue? O.22 please trapped me gaogao....lah

Yungi, I also as greedy as you are.

dudu... unfortunately, RGB is no longer considered a "因低调而被市场忽各" share... it is a hot counter now...

对 hor。。。这股应该是说 ”之前太烂而被市场忽略“ 。。。还是说。。。“之前太多人中遭而连各大投行和投资导师也不敢介绍给学员”。。。I like all these comment....hehe...

haha... when remisier like Alex Yu starts recommending ppl to buy.. it is time he is selling for his clients... too obvious...

I see. Thanks for your info. But I won't simply sell. Let others people sell first lah. I am not sensitive to trade now. 最近学到只吃鱼身。

Yunqi Dangerous lo 。。。。

Very very Dangerous lo 。。。。。。hoho。。。hihi。。。haha

冷眼 ： 那些业绩可圈可点，但领导人默默耕耘，往往底子坚实，但因低调而被市场忽各，股价被低估。投资者如果勤做功课，不难发现这类股票，在别人不买时从容买进，长期持守，可获厚利。

至于那些长期高调的热门股，价值尽人皆知，股价已反映其价值，投资者还能得到什么呢？

短期涨接近2倍，还要买 ? 还没起的低价比较适合我。

0.185买到很幸运.....恭喜。
我的朋友0.17时不敢买，等起到0.19时要买已经买不到。
现在只好等回调买入。

Benjamin 888, do you buy any RGB since last conversation?

No lar, I can beat the market just because I follow cold eye, buy good shares at low price. Never buy at high price like gadang. This is always true.

char1234 RGB.......if other counter, hv flown to 15pct to 20 pct profit already.......its not first time testing 22 ........

Really can understand RGB FA and TA ??
Sure its not first time testing 22 ??
Hehe.......

Thanks excelyou.

You can view it at iTrade@CIMB.。。。。。

Must login right?
If we can view at iTrade@CIMB, no need to ask you lar.......

excelyou-san, can you attached CIMB report?

两年前买的话只能说，错的时间买进对的股。。。。+1
现在买的话，会不会是对的时间买进对的股？。。。+1

等了那么久，却在开花的时候，不等结果，那么就只能闻到花香，吃不到甜甜的果实了。
What i can say is 。。。company is in good shape now。

又在i3见到fattycat....hihi.... MATB我不认得呀......
其实最怕的是卖了好股，买烂股。 " opportunity cost " 这种是师傅人马说的话。

Back to 2 years and before, RGB's FCF only achieved 20+ mil, but sleepy can foresee it's FCF increase double to 40+ mil today. He bought that time. No doubt, he is really super investor.

I understand you never follow any of his stock picks, but what I would like to say is that you are super investor in investing RGB. Don't you?

Sleepy123, are super investor as what KYY said.

Cold eye, my sifu.....