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2020-02-27 14:58 | Report Abuse
RJ87 Institutional investor won't take expect, confident will in their valuation. They take what is and what is not.
When it's converted, current ratio increased to 1, 4 rolling Quarter profit, at Annualised earnings 6sen. PE 10 will be 60sen. PE12 will 72sen. Ok...u say PE not good comparison.
Then
Yinson total Asset RM9.5Bil, current liability RM1.25Bil, total liability RM5.6bil, Orderbook RM20Bil, NTA, RM1.58, Revenue RM240mil grossprofit, RM135mil(Gross Margin = 56%), PAT RM70mil. Price RM7.11 Market Cap 7.8Bil
Armada total asset RM15Bil, current liability RM3.5bil, total liability, RM11.3Bil, Orderbook RM20Bil,
NTA, RM0.59, Revenue RM520mil, grossprofit, RM198(Gross Margin = 38%), PAT 70mil.
Price RM0.40. Market Cap 2.35Bil
Orderbook: Armada(20.5+10Bil), Yinson (est RM40bil)
Price to book value : Armada (0.4/0.59 = 0.68X), Yinson (7.11/1.58=4.5X)
PE : Armada(0.4/0.06 = 6.67X), Yinson (7.11/0.2216 = 32X)
Current Ratio: Armada (2.24/3.47 = 0.65X, Yinson (2.27/1.25 = 1.86X)
Total Ratio: Armada(15.76/11.5 = 1.37X), Yinson (9.5/5.58 = 1.7X)
OMS
2017, Annual Revenue RM969mil, Annual Gross Profit RM403mil (Gross Margin 40%).
2018, Annual Revenue RM724mil, Annual Gross Profit RM197mil (Gross Margin 27%).
Q3,19, Annual Revenue RM232mil, Annual Gross Profit RM72mil (Gross Margin 31%) after selling few OSV fleet.
FPO
2017, Annual Revenue RM1.43Bil, Annual Gross Profit RM748mil (Gross Margin 52%)
2018, Annual Revenue RM1.7Bil, Annual Gross Profit RM810mil (Gross Margin 47%).
2019, Annual Revenue RM 1.33Bil, Annual Gross Profit RM758mil (Gross Margin 57%).
Gary Neal Christenson, joined 28 May 2018. with 35Mil shares.
Comparing the two, Armada has 2 numbers that looked like crap.
Gross Margin of Armada (38%) vs Yinson (56%). Further reduce the fleet of OSV and bring margin upto 40% or Urusharta go squeeze Petronas to give Armada more OMS job. Bring the Gross Margin to 45% ish. Sell OSV pare down debts will reduce operational cost and finance cost making better PBT margin. Current Ratio, Armada (0.65X) vs Yinson (1.86X). When Kraken debt converted to Long Term debt, Current Ratio will be (2.24/2 = 1.12X). If the impairment reversal happens. Say RM1Bil from Kraken.
Orderbook: Armada(20.5+10Bil), Yinson (est RM40bil)
PE : Armada(0.4/0.06 = 6.67X), Yinson (7.11/0.2216 = 32X)
Price to book value : Armada (0.4/0.59 = 0.68X), Yinson (7.11/1.58=4.5X)
Current Ratio: Armada (2.24/2 = 1.12X, Yinson (2.27/1.25 = 1.86X)
Total Ratio: Armada(17.76/11.5 = 1.56X), Yinson (9.5/5.58 = 1.7X)
This 2 company quite similar. If u don't like the debts, u discount 50% from Market Cap. Armada at least worth RM4bil at 68sen. If you don't want discount from market cap. Discount from 70% from earnings, at PE 10, is 60sen. Yinson can go buy premium. Come to Armada, discount this discount that. Really puki one.
When the outbreak happens, Armada loss by 33%. Yinson hardly lost 10%. When bad sentiments hit, u think only hit Armada is it? No. It's because yinson don't have chicken shit investor. Yinson trading at RM7 and Armada 40sen. Chicken shit like i3lurkers, spinninglotus and the naked boys dare to go there mer? Very huge difference.
What armada need to exercise is share consolidation like ICON. 5:1. Bring the price up RM2.00. Or consolidation from 10:1. at RM4. Then, u can see chicken shit go hide in reban ayam. Don't come here kacau2. If RJ87 can know what to do, these big @ss investor would have known too. The reason why it's not exercised yet leads me to believe, they purposely keep it at this price. Previous CEO and CFO impair 2.4bil and breach Sukuk covenent plunge the price from 90sen to 15sen. No way a CFO dumb enough not know about debt covenant. 2018, change both CEO and CFO, strong operating profit. Gary came in with 35mil shares. He is put there to drive the price back up creating a turnaround story. I think someone made money from the fall. The remaining question is if the fella has collected enough to close his short position and collected more to push it back up. 90sen down to 15sen made 75sen (600%). 20sen push back to 90sen. Another 70sen (450%). Sibeh SONG. Do this few round, EPF can declare 10% dividend already. =D
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mikekim I'm also expecting RM1.5bn Kraken debt to be reclassified from short term to long term.
Management has expected this to be done in Q4 2019.
Then there will be 0 liquidity risk for Bumi Armada over the next 5 years.
23/02/2020 2:06 AM
2020-02-27 14:58 | Report Abuse
RJ87 When in doubt, give this a read again....
Orderbook: Armada(20.5+10Bil), Yinson (est RM40bil)
Price to book value : Armada (0.4/0.59 = 0.68X), Yinson (7.11/1.58=4.5X)
PE : Armada(0.4/0.06 = 6.67X), Yinson (7.11/0.2216 = 32X)
Current Ratio: Armada (2.24/3.47 = 0.65X, Yinson (2.27/1.25 = 1.86X)
Total Ratio: Armada(15.76/11.5 = 1.37X), Yinson (9.5/5.58 = 1.7X)
OMS
2017, Annual Revenue RM969mil, Annual Gross Profit RM403mil (Gross Margin 40%).
2018, Annual Revenue RM724mil, Annual Gross Profit RM197mil (Gross Margin 27%).
Q3,19, Annual Revenue RM232mil, Annual Gross Profit RM72mil (Gross Margin 31%) after selling few OSV fleet.
FPO
2017, Annual Revenue RM1.43Bil, Annual Gross Profit RM748mil (Gross Margin 52%)
2018, Annual Revenue RM1.7Bil, Annual Gross Profit RM810mil (Gross Margin 47%).
2019, Annual Revenue RM 1.33Bil, Annual Gross Profit RM758mil (Gross Margin 57%).
Orderbook: Armada(20.5+10Bil), Yinson (est RM40bil)
PE : Armada(0.4/0.06 = 6.67X), Yinson (7.11/0.2216 = 32X)
Price to book value : Armada (0.4/0.59 = 0.68X), Yinson (7.11/1.58=4.5X)
Current Ratio: Armada (2.24/2 = 1.12X, Yinson (2.27/1.25 = 1.86X)
Total Ratio: Armada(17.76/11.5 = 1.56X), Yinson (9.5/5.58 = 1.7X)
23/02/2020 7:45 PM
2020-02-27 14:57 | Report Abuse
those post above are their snake head post as known as mikekim
2020-02-27 14:56 | Report Abuse
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Feb 25, 2020 3:53 PM | Report Abuse
Ringgit is weakening while KLCI is up.
Obviously local funds are buying while foreign funds are selling.
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Feb 25, 2020 3:49 PM | Report Abuse
Strongly recommend you to sell bullrun1985 and have peace of mind
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Feb 25, 2020 2:20 PM | Report Abuse
Just ignore gibberish on this forum and stop giving them attention that they crave.
It will eventually stop when they get bored.
2020-02-27 14:56 | Report Abuse
It’s sad that this forum has deteriorated and stooped to this level of gibberish. I have decided that it’s not useful to me anymore in anyway and I will stop posting as it’s just a waste of time.
This will be my last post.
Goodluck all!
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Feb 25, 2020 8:32 PM | Report Abuse
It’s not “confirmed” out on 27 Feb.
It is “scheduled to be out”.
There’s a difference.
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Feb 25, 2020 5:38 PM | Report Abuse
IK, Jonathan just reiterated to me now that the estimated release date is 27 February, Thursday.
When did you get the info about Friday from Jonathan?
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Feb 25, 2020 12:40 PM | Report Abuse
Jonathan said this Friday quarter report being released
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Feb 25, 2020 5:35 PM | Report Abuse
Strongest quarter core net profit is coming.
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Feb 25, 2020 5:34 PM | Report Abuse
Transacted another 2.3m shares today.
Goodluck all.
2020-02-27 14:55 | Report Abuse
go ask those madafaka promoter here, conman rj87, mikekim, super panda, and 2 or3 more small potato i forgot their name
Silent75 Damm armada.... Why always disappointing us
27/02/2020 2:54 PM
2020-02-27 14:51 | Report Abuse
bullrun1985 IK, 12 mil x 0.09 = rm1.08 mil in a week
27/02/2020 2:40 PM
bullrun1985 RJ87, lose rm170k in a week
27/02/2020 2:40 PM
need to pinjam ah long or not conman rj87? since you are so shameless to con people in armada, i think if you con ah long also no problem! 脸皮厚过棺材板 conman rj87! i see some sticker just downstairs my office. near 1-u
2020-02-27 14:47 | Report Abuse
no need to change your account, we know who you are, even the great mabel! meow
spinninglotus Like I have said
Armada Claire has USD200million sitting on the book
Bumi armada has only impaired RM250million out of that about 25% impaired
More impairement to come
Don't chase after the share price
Use this rebound as opportunity to sell and exit
Don't buy now
Bumi Armada will drop to 25 cents for sure!!!
27/02/2020 2:42 PM
this is his own opinion, any more opinion? please no onion ah, just like sourgrape conman rj87. everyday cry!
2020-02-27 14:45 | Report Abuse
now can you dig it sxckerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrdedicated only for rj87 a true scammer in armada!
2020-02-27 14:43 | Report Abuse
let s get funky with it! yo you guys, have you heard before there is a group of scammers here in armada? listen listen listen..... 1 2 cha cha cha, 3 4 boom bibi, 5 6 letssssssss tango, 7 8 oh lala,
9 10 oh my guan ying ma! amitabha rest in peace rj87 and his whole family
2020-02-27 14:40 | Report Abuse
rj87 conman you better come out to apologise to all those who listen to you and you group of lying thieves! scammer alert scammer alert!
2020-02-27 14:36 | Report Abuse
ask rj87, he will defend this statement till the end of the day!
Simone1988 Still got chui kong lan par song people here saying this qtr result not so bad. For the last few weeks price are not moving indications that the qtr result are no good. Epf selling till no more substantial shareholders another indication. Epf agent might have some "insider" knowledge about the result
27/02/2020 2:34 PM
2020-02-27 14:35 | Report Abuse
going down south liao, hamkacarn liao armada going with conman rj87 and his family!
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2020-02-27 15:00 | Report Abuse
are they seafood, sifart or sifu. judge them by your own heart!