A group of people who has agenda on MAS. They are the taking the opportunity over MAS. They are using a few brokers to depress the stock price. When situation arise to make profit, they will push up and sell for a profit. But overall the stock price is always depressed. May be they are bargaining or in discussion wth the gov to restructure Mas or take over Mas.

Msport sell down to collect?

yesterday major airlines in Europe up 2 to 2.7% after the major powers reach agreement with Iran, even though they know the supply of oil fr Iran with take a few months more to materialize. This morning the syndiket try to press down to scare potential buyers of MAS. But it last less than 5 minit, they quickly grab all the sellers at 31.5 sen. they are doing short covering of MAS. Most airlines are singing the tune of easing oil price, what are MAS waiting for? If not of the act of the syndiket, MAS would be trading up 10% already.

Crude oil is underpressure in the short term, it is bearish in the long term. For a company which is difficult to cut cost especially the staff cost, we hope the cost of fuel can come down hard so that MAS can be profitable. We have to bet the fuel price, because steps or changes hv been made by the management, the single most important cost which is vey hard to manage but if managed well is going to safe MAS a lot of money. In fact this variable (jet fuel price) is one of my reasons in investing MAS. The most important one.

crude oil price falling, expected to go lower in the future. Iran may supply another 1 million barrel a day in the future, currently exporting 1.5 million barrel a day. Very positive for airline company like Mas. Fuel cost constitute about 33 % of Mas cost. For a company that is aggresively expanding capacity, it is one of the best news for AJ.

Knowing MAS already overstaffed, the staff cost did not increase significantly in the latest 3Q results, I guess the management know about this, they expand their capacity and fight for market share, so that with the existing work force, make them work harder, seems like a good idea. But the union already making noise, saying too tough the work schedule, very difficult to recover to catch the next flight. Which is true also, we are human not robot. But MAS is bleeding, so pls bear with it, diam diamlah union. THe A and P bills are scary, MAS spend like nobody business to advertise and promote their expanded capacity, I wonder how they can spend so much while the co is not making money yet, it seems no one really look into the calculations carefully. Or someone has pocketed fr this spending? Apparently, the crews who carry MAS image, who is in the frontline should be treated well, so that they can serve better, smile sweeter to generate better repeat sales for MAS. A lot of aspect of cost can be cut and by focusing on other area of business which can generate profits, MAS should be able to show good results and MAS shares continue to appreciate its value, everyone can benefit fr investing in MAS shares. See you at 40 sen in the next 3 month.

Hi Soon9913, agree wth u. Mas shares is a good trading stock, very liquid. On and off have surprises, it has reach bottom, waiting to scale higher.

hope MAS will do restructuring, split out the MRO business portion, let someone manage it to profitiblity. AS so many air crafts bought and use by the full service and low cost carriers, this business section can be big, and it is growing. If you can not make money in sell air tickets, better spend sometime doing repair, service, overhaul and maintenance for other airlines

someone fr Malindo who know the business of MRO very well, which is making money may help MAS turnaround.

A lot of people are eyeing MAS, do not rule out the possibility of being taken over by Malaysian Tycoon. The price is cheap. The MAlindo Boss is eyeing!!!

The volume generated hit 700 million, they hv churned out hugh vol to unload, fr here it retraced to 31 sen, then consolidated upward to 35 sen again, then in order to lockin some profit, it managed to push to 36.5 sen to unload again, then they started to to accumulate heavily again at 34 sen, they even block the MAS sharesfr going higher, they were selling and buying at 34.5 level, betting on the 3rd Q result, but unfortunately the result was bad, they are taking the opportunityto sell down, taking short position again. They push dowd to collect to bring downtheir average price, in the meantime the traders who are unable to hold will be buried by them. Since the right issue until now, for a period of 5 month fr jun 13 until nov 20 ,i believe their aver price will be 33 to 34 sen. This work out to be around 73 sen cum right price, which is still 30% cheaper before the massive right issue. Is the current price 31.5 sen good buying price for MAS? you judge your selves!!!

Hi Deadwood, the last episode saw the MAS price trade for 40 senonly for less than 10 minit, you still could catch the buyer 39.5 quite easily, 39 sen was easy to sell, at 39 sen was trading at rm1.03 cum right.

the same seller fr 32.5 sen to 32 sen, the same broker selling, one of the big boys operating this counter, this is not genuine sell, they sell to collect using few other brokers.

At 33 sen, MAS is trading at 73 sen cum right price, which is 30% lower before the massive right issue, for those that sold before right issue, they are laughing to buy the MAS shares now (30% discount).

Buy into bad news, do not let the big boys take advantage of the situation!

Before Mas announced 3rd Q results, we saw heavy accumulation of MAS shares at 34 sen, support at 33.5 sen, with the expected better result it gained support up to 34.5 sen. The latest result saw improved revenue growth but the higher depreciation and amortization cost and the unfavourable exchange rate caused Mas to deliver bigger loss. Operation of MAS is positive, changes is impending and it can perform better in future. Fuel price is coming down, it is positive to MAS.This latest set of result again provide a opportunity to the big boys to accumulate at lower price. But if you notice carefully, the stock price is only down 1 sen from the support level of 33.5 sen. why is it so? Isn't MAS has drop to its minimum value already? whenever situation allow the big boys to take advantage arise, they will exploit small timer like me. How to win this game?

MAS closed high today at 35 sen. The last two day they pressed it down to 33.5 sen and 34 sen. But today they go against the odd by closing higher, they are telling us they want it to trade higher, confidence is slowly coming back. Don't be affected by the traders who sell down AGGRESIVELY, YOU WILL BE REWARDED SOON

pls stay cool and relax while the big boys trying to scare people to buy, and induce people to sell, believe in yourselves, the price is ridiculous low now. the biggest cost of operating an airline fuel is falling !!!

Mas was trading fr rm1 to rm1.1 before the announcement of right issue, now right issue completed, it has raised rm3 billion cash, the risk of going under has diminished, now it can stand tall and grab market share. Is n't it should perform now? It could be the last chance to buy MAS at current level!

In order to buy big quantity of shares, and not causing alarm to the other buyers or investor, they would hv to sell down again, creating a false signal that the stock is very heavy to move. But if notice carefully, it would not go down to 31 sen like before. Fr 31 to 40 sen, then it drop to 31.5sen level, resume its climb to 37 level, then again to 33.5 to 34 level, now it is climbing again at 35 sen

pls donot be frightened by the multiple sell order of 5000 to the buyer, they are buying quietly by executing mutiple buy order of 1000 each, follow by some small order like 50 and 100, then at 1000 again.

At 35 sen Mas is trading at 83 sen cum right price, it should trade at 38 to 40 sen which work out to be rm 1 before Mas call for right issue. It is this massive right issue that technically caused the stock price to plummet to 31 to 33 level, giving chance to the big boy to accumulate cheaply. The recent drop of crude oil price due to easing of tension in Iran and Syria provide a good reason for airlines stock to perform. The last 12 trading session saw the big boys depresiing Mas stock to 33.5 to 34 sen level, and accumulating in a big way. Mas is expanding its capacity and grabbing bigger market share at the right time. With the jet fuel price falling and in the near future could be even bigger quantum, MAS definitely does not deserve to trade at this level (35 sen).

L n G has gained a lot of value over the past few years, both the revenue and profit and NTA has improved significantly, and the big boss has seen value and is busy accumulating its shares through the latest Iculs issued. Mayland has team up wth L n G in a few property ventures. WHen the big boss sees L n G is financially sound, he tried to sell a 70+ million office building with the purpose of increasing its holding over L n G. He is killing 2 bird with 1 stone, as Mr Cytew said brilliant idea fr this Hong Kee. The MD of L n G, Mr Low has sung the same tune with his boss by saying L n G wants to buy some investment property to boost their income. Do they really need that? May be, I guess, but i believe it is more to help the big boss undertake or absorb some risk in their own private property venture in Putra Jaya. I sincerely hope after the big boss purpose has been achieved, mr Low can propose to the board to offer some dividen to minor shareholders like us. If dividen is consisitent pay by L n G, we do not need to trade L n G so often, and it will improve its image as a dividen paying stock, thus lifting the stock price for the benefit of all.

In my opinion, the Iculs should trade at least on par or premium to the mother. Reason being it command lower capital to hv exposure to the mother share, it is like warrant but this iculs pay interest as well 1%. If you hold warrant you don't get interest, no body pay you. If you think L & G has potential and is undervalue, just buy more Iculs and hold it on. Be patient and relax

Thank you very much Mr cytew for guiding us in the trading and arbitrage of L&G and its Iculs. I hv benefited much fr yr idea and strategy ealier on. If L & G is such a good fundamental lower liner stock, the price is very much under value, Should its Iculs trading at a premium or discount the mother share? The major shareholder has bot so much iculs-R earlier on, He or She must be bullish on L & G.

Buying MAS to trade or to invest needs extra will power and patience. The big boy is using the psycology of threat to collect massive MAS stocks at dirt cheap price, a discount of 20 to 30 percent of what MAS shares are worth. Despite the improving all round operation results, better market sentiment compare to before election and improving retail participations in MAS, MAS still fail to take off. It is almost 2 months since MAS right issue shares are trading in bursa (5/6/13). May be they needs another 3 to 4 months to collect MAS shares while waiting for the bottomline to reflect in the financial report before we see MAS trading to 40 sen level again. In order to win this game, you hv to sit on it until it bears fruits.

this morning MAS again sell down to 31 sen to induce sellers to throw at 31 sen, this is the third time the big boy sell down to collect, 2 times at 30.5 sen level, each time they only allow less than 5 minute before they take the sellers again and make it ( the seller bid )become buyer bid. WHat is this telling us???

MAS sell down to collect at 30.5 sen, this is the second time MAS sold down to 30.5 from 31.5, forming double bottom at 30.5 sen. Bullish outlook, don't panic, don't be cheated by the big sell order of 5000, keeping hitting the buyer at 30.5 sen, there are unseen hand buying quietly at 30.5 sen

This is call jammed quote, when situation like this happen, the big boy just want to hold the price, this is one strategy to hold the price from moving higher and lower. Another words MAS has stabilised at 31 sen. By quoting big buy and sell order, the price is locked, they hv no intention to push the stock higher nor would he want it to drop also. Those who are exhausted will be selling to them at 31 sen. Patience is the key word here.

why buy MAS? MAS is at all time low, potential sofrteningof oil pricein future, economy outlook better, shipping stocks already moved, changes n expansions taking place in MAS, potential politics settlement, potential take over target, better second half financial results. Congratulations to the buyers who bought at 31 sen.

For MAS, it is wasting time talking about fundamental sometime, it is true in theory, when fundamental of MAS improve then only shares price will go up. But in this scenario do you think it applys here? Mas shares is controlled by some one very powerful. He controls. One day if he has exhausted us, or he achieves his objectives he will fly MAS up. Just wait.

MAS need to raised 3 billion, at that time it was trading 70 to 75 sen. if you call a right issue for 3 billion, wth a ratio of 1 for 1 at 96 sen, it would be ridiculous. So they restructure it to 4 to 1 at 23 sen to make it cheaper and encourage new investor to come in to take up the rights. The number of shares has sky rocket to 16 billion. But the most important thing is MAs can turn around. Then they can consolidate their shares, may be 10 to 1 and reduce the no of shares outstanding to 1.6 billion. Then MAs would be trading like rm5 again.

Many people lost hope wth MAS, especially those who bought MAS 2 years back or longer. When you lose money you will be angry and disappointed and yr confidence level gone down. Bear in mind in Stock market there will always some body taking advantage of the situation. Especially in a recovering market like now. I think so long Malaysia still produce oil, BN in power, MAS will be here to stay. There are just too many people depend on MAS for their bread and butter. How can it fail?

Whenever I open my mouth sharing with people about opportunity investing in MAS in coffee shops, investment seminar, internet forums, I will be poured cold water or being scolded. But deep in my heart I feel this is golden opportunity to BUY MAS. SImple logic will give you an answer yes it is correct move to buy.
The reason when everyone says negative about MAS, MAS shares must be at very low level. WHen everyone has no confidence in MAS shares, It must be trading at low level. SO the strategy of buy low sell high fits very well here. When everyone talk good about MAS and hv confidence then MAS would be trading at 50 sen, right?

Some one try to depress MAS price today at the close, from 4.15 pm onwards MAS suddenly saw big sell orders at 31 sen. But there is only one broker selling heavily at 31 sen. When buyer came to clear say 50 lot(50,000 shares), they will hit back at 30.5 wth 500 lot (500,000 shares) to deter potential buyer at 31 sen. I guess there is big institutional order to sell today. And the big boy trying to absorb this sell order at 30.5 sen at the close. You can see there is 4 million order matched at 30.5 sen at the close. after this big order there is a mere 2.2k wanted to sell at 30.5 sen. there is about 200k being forced sell at 30.5 a few minute before the preclosing. All this are telling us there is very few selling at 30.5 from the small retailers. Infact MAs has been trading at 31 and 31.5 sen for the last 10 days, it has show resilient despite the escalating oil price. The market seems to welcome the changes and expansion by MAS. Please be patience wth MAS, any weakness of share price is good opportunity to accumulate. The upcoming financial results would serve as a good spark for the MAS to fly higher. Do not miss the opportunity to make some money investing in MAS.

They are drawing buyer in to clear the seller.

This is the work of the big boy showing their strength in pushing Mhb higher. They will clear anyone blocking their way. They clear yr stock in split seconds to tell the market they hv a lot of bullet to clear the sellers. They do it very confidently, scaring the potential seller n drawing buying in to buy. BULL IS CHARGING

Just ride the Uptrend of MHB, I like this phrase, Thank You Mr Tsurukame. how to ride this uptrend? Sometime it is very difficult seeing the stocks you hold are in the money,we are eager to sell, the moment you sell , you realised the profit. But after you sold the price keep going up, we ended up seeing it rises but we hv run out of stocks. To ride the uptrend to benefit the max really need a lot of brain work. For traders, we are eager to lockin profit, in order to ride this uptrend and benefit greatly we hv to go long again after squaring off the position. always hv MHB stocks in hand to avoid disappointment. MHB has seen slow, consistent buying, the Bulls are definitely charging, forcing the bears to hide. The sellers are drying off day by day. SO pls keep taking long positions and enjoy the Uptrend.

I am happy to hear a lot of people confidently investing in MAS, When the situation is fearful, when the big boy try to push it below 30 sen, that is the best buying opportunity, I always believe if we buy with relax and clear mind, we will always comes out as winners. Happy investing in MAS and enjoy your profits or rather lets yr profits run!!!

many beginners make money on MAS, happy for them, for those looking for 26 to 28 sen to buy, sorrylah, hv to wait,do not worry, just waitlah

looks like more people criticize MAS, MAS shares perform better, top vol now, 30 sen has become buyer. A lot of people like and concern about MAS, and has offer good advices, more investors buying MAS shares at 30 sen. Provide support and its share will perform, so that you suffer less loss and hopefully recoupe yr investment in MAS.

Why just blame the management? In business, some unforeseen factor like the surge of oil price and emerging of low cost carriers have contributed to the down fall of MAS. WE hv to think how MAS is to survive and regain its previous glory. It is a 40 year company. For those who hv suffered loss investing in MAS, you should stop blaming MAS. Think more positive, Fuel price will be coming down, Mas can benefit fr it. Somebody try to take advantage fr this scenario by depressing the share price of MAS. May be the hidden agenda is politics or take over target?

The last two days, the operator hv to cover their short position just before 4.45pm, it means they could not make fr selling this stock, now they hv to buy already, otherwise 30 sen will become buyer

you hv Ahmad Jauhari and Azman Hashim as the big boss behind, just be patience the reward will be handsome. Every things need time, but if the jet fuel trend is going down, things will be a lot easier for AJ.

will fly in this two day, be prepared.

Well Done Zack_liza !!! MHB to move higher!!!

Thank You very much ashrizal1, appreciate very much for your posting. It is the right path MAS invested in the A380 jumbo to boost its image and enhanced its services. Airlines industry will be moving into upcycle. US economy is beginning to show strength and Federal Reserve will be increasing interest rate next year if things move according to the forecasts. The local market sees a lot of buying on MAS at 30 sen. Taking advantage of the opportunity offered by the big boy. According to the latest annual report of MAS 2012, there are 4 individual holding few million of MAS shares, beside Khazanah 70% and EPF < 5%, the rest are amanahraya, Sarawak state fund, Sabah chief minister, warisan harta Sabah sdn bhd and some foreign funds.

MAS has made big progress in reducing the loss in 200
11 fr rm2.5 billion to rm 475 million in 2012. It is going to suffer loss in 2013 and will likely turn to profitable in late 2014. The management under Ahmad Jauhari has promised 3 years to turn around the company, now things are looking good for MAS if the biggest operating cost jet fuel is coming down now. THey hv done what needs to be done like improving efficiency, cutting unprofitable routes, increase load factor, invest in new airplanes. And most important is the successful rm3.1 bilion right issue implemented recently. They are now sitting on a comfortable footing to growth the company. Everyone is talking about the biggest cost for aviation industry, that is the fuel cost, this single biggest component of cost if it is not escalating, but look set to softening will make the airlines business improve their margin significantly.
Let study today trading on MAS, It opened at 30.5 sen with 2.78 million shares done. It was holding very well at 30 sen till 3.00pm, despite the weak market sentiment. I believe the somebody are taking opportunity to sell down to 30 sen by forcing the contra player to sell to 29.5 sen. This selling is not heavy at all. From 4.40 to 4.44pm there were 2.35 million shares done on 30 sen, a clear sign some one is taking opportunity to buy back or accumulate at 30 sen just before the pre closing set in. at 4.50pm they try to close it at 29.5 sen so that their buying will not be obvious. Let me emphasize again at 29.5 sen, the cum price of MAS is only 55.5sen, at 30sen, its cum price is only 58sen. My dear friends, who want to sell MAS at 55sen and 58sen? If you hv bought MAS at rm1 before the right issue, and after taking up the right issue at 23 sen, 4x23=92 sen
yr average cost per lot is (rm1 + rm0.92)/5 = 38.4 sen, if you sell at 30 sen , you suffer 28% loss. would you sell at current price? Well for those for hv not participated in the right issue, if you are buying now at 30 sen, you are buying at a 28% discount. Pls tell me worth it or not?

Jet fuel price falling, QE tapering, commodity prices weaken, supply of oil icreasing, US will become oil exported by 2020. China economy slowing. All this are pointing to lower oil prices. This would be extremely positive to airline stocks world wide. Since 2006 oil prices hv shot up 56%, the foreseeable weak oil price would boost airlines operator profit margin significantly, as it make up of 37% of cost to full service carrier like MAS. The upside potential for MAS will be huge, let see if MAS can trade at higher price!

MAS rock solid at 30 sen despite DOW JONES down more than 300 points, what is MAS telling us???