2) I believe in FA. Most of my teachers taught me TA is only 20% of your analysis. The rest is FA. This is for the capital growth method. If you are a trader then that would be another story. There is no exact viewpoint of a specific stock, it varies from every people's perspective depends on their plans. If you are a trader don't commend on the investor's way of thinking and vice versa.

yeah .. BODs know what we don't. And yet people here can make a conclusion on the stocks by relying on charts alone.

Only the strong will survive in the solar sector. I believe in Karim. He has proven his credibility.

only in i3 where regular retailer can give a lecture on how to invest LOL

What do you mean this company have high debt, go look at the NTA per share value .

Chill, glove sentiment still strong due to MCO

So in conclusion, DPHARMA is for FnF and PHARMA is for distribution services?

I didnt expect the new mutation news could bring it to this low. Vaccine counter really unstable right now

Yeah Kanger maybe only for short term and private sector. Manufacturing and development goes to big company

Big company of course. If open tender small company sure lose. I bet on Dpharma and Pharmaniaga.

If you feel confident with the fundamental, go for it. Always watch your cutloss. Do your own research, read the last QR. There stated their future prospects.

new bamboo factory total cost rm 12x million built in China. This new factory will greatly help Kanger financing (as stated in the last QR).

And yes I fundamentally confident with their new factory. There is no "con". You are the one who decides everything.

Remember, don't all in. Save some for avg down just in case. The vaccine market still not stable due to mutations.

Cant tell, by the way it goes down. 130 is a strong support. After today up 1 bib, it might bring a good fortune. But if there is a bad news (new vaccine mutation). It will go down.

and by the way it looks, solution will get ahead of Kanger for private sector. If Kanger managed to bring the vaccine, I doubt it will be at LEAST after Q1 2021.

That's for gov allocation. KJ said that the vaccine mentioned is the one with ready stock. For Sinopharm sadly there is no stock for Malaysia. They will prioritize the countries where they did the clinical test (UAE and BAHRAIN approved Sinopharm, Indonesia, Morocco and south americas. What KJ said solely on gov vaccines not private sector. From what I see only Kanger (Sinopharm) and Solution (CanSino) able to get their chances for private sector due to their proven vaccines. Bintai, yongtai, hwgb, myeg, mtouch all I can say is game over. You need at least to passed phase 3 trial first to enter the vaccine game.

KJ just mentioned in his video live just now, for CanSino and Sinovac vaccine, gov will cooperate with local company to manufacture and packaging it here in Malaysia. The name of company remains secret. Though I am confident it will be Dpharma or Pharmaniaga will get the contract. (DONT BELIEVE BULAT-BULAT).

@shootup thats a good question. The irony when he said "we are not capable to manipulate the market" while he just dumped a 150m of units.

From my view, the vaccine venture might be 50-50. The PP was done for a reason. Bursa won't let Kanger just do a PP without a solid proposal. And the other half I think private sector vaccine will have a tough time to compete with gov vaccines. If it managed to bring it here, are there any profits from it? Who going to buy it if gov offers it for free? People don't really care about (adenovirus, mRNA, inactive, etc) types of vaccines.

welp .. just got an info from Kanger director Mr Joseph Wu. Someone emailed him using email address from Kanger website asking about the vaccine. This is his response : "We are currently still waiting for allocation from China and hopefully we'll able to get it at soonest. Regarding the shareprice is our beyond control and we are not capable and allow to manipulate the market". READ AT YOUR OWN RISK. I got it from a trustworthy group but I'm not going to believe it 100%.

Just because the vaccine didn't become reality, doest mean it will go bankrupt.

it's not easy to bankrupt. Look at other major shareholders still steady. Even Sultan Perlis still there.

Dont CL. wait price to reach strong support then avg down. Next QR looks good (new r&d factory). Even if u want to CL, wait for it to rebound.

@shootup u still hold or CL already ?

True. From my view, the only thing that makes price go up is if operator wants it to go up. I have seen good counter with good fundamental QR all green but the price ? Still stuck.

if your only technical skill is to see break resistance/break support. Then i pity you ....

Because the way you talk so arragont one. No one want to listen if you talk like that. Go learn chart pattern then we talk. It waste my time too explain it here.

Not his fault tho. He is only sharing articles about vaccine development. The problem is gov-manufacture deal and Kanger.

For those who losses from this counter, cant blame you guys. The news,mou,announcement are there. The technical sign to be bullish. But still it goes down. Well that's stock market for you. There is no 100% analysis.

yes. all that you seen on news is gov-manufacturer deal. No middlemen. KJ already said about this. Gov wont let middlemen playing with vaccine prices. Not even Bumi company.

Even if gov appoints private company to handle the vaccines. Surely it will not be Kanger,Bintai,Solution,Mtouch,HWGB or whatsoever. Surely they will direct it to expertise like zuellig for logistics.

The problem is not Sinopharm. It is Kanger and gov paid for all Malaysian. How vaccine counters can profit from this ? Private sector. But when the vaccine will arrive in Malaysia? Will it arrive earlier than gov vaccines?. That's the question.

Bintai already down 50% by yesterday. Today got up because of Biden voluntarily shot a vaccine lol. Pure goreng counter.

In Malaysia, vaccines only can be use starting in April too. DG Hisham said MOH need 120 days to evaluate the data from vaccine manufacturers.

@Noobie123 good lesson tho, only in Bursa you cant trust MOU. Due to its small market cap, its easier for large fund to manipulate any "MOU" counter.

Right now the only hope are for those foreigners, rich guy who cant wait the vaccine from gov. Thats only if Kanger managed to bring the vaccines tho

There might be a slim chance where Sinopharm got approved early. Earlier than arrival of other vaccines. Gov did seal the deal but the vaccines will come late due to production queue. But I doubt this gonna happen. I dont know why Chinese pharma so secretive about their phases data. Right now most countries bought western vaccines already. While China only got to sell to less developed country like Indonesia ..

Looks like bintai and solution guy still haven't realise it yet >.<

vaccine catalyst is a fraud from the start. Gov already got 83% vaccines for Malaysia population with only Rm 2.06 bil. It's just a matter of time gov seal the deal for 17% population with balance money.

Go see the other vaccine counter which manufacturer they deal with. Then go look at vaccine phase 3 trial list. You will know which counter is con and which is genuine. Stop comparing why this counter goes up and kanger so slow. If you do your research well, you will know why.

Wait for Sinopharm's approval then there will be a significant price movement

yeah, stop come to the counter forum and talk shit. We all here have brain to make our own decision. Stop giving orders to people. People won't listening to you after all lol.

aik, i thought u said byebye and will come back next year @jutawansenyap ? what happened ? cannot sleep ka

That's the problem. How to convince investors like that.

But they got the letter from gov, I believe gov did check their plans and gives a green light.

Yeap, in our case Sinopharm looks very promising. No worry about that. It's just Kanger management's very secretive, they should announce what are they going to do with the PP money in detail and how are they going to get the vaccines. The roadmap.

Bintai management looks good but not Generex. It's just too far behind.

Let me give you a tips if you want fast money. Read the sentiment, low volumes counter, sideways chart, news (MoU is enough), penny stock. Sure goreng one. Beware of the risk though. Dont chase price. If you tertinggal bas just let it go find another one.

You know the consequences of goreng counter right ? It's not good for investors. People pump and dump will ruin the counter and track record. Just look at Vivocom, AT, MMAG what happened. If you want to make money fast, why don't you go to goreng counter ?