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chinaman

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Posted by chinaman > 2019-08-05 14:14 | Report Abuse

60 tahun BN cakap pasal kaum, agama, tak rasa mual kah?? Pakatun pun kenas virus... lu cakaplah amacam aplikasi A/I, robot dalam hidup abad ke 21....asyik asyik topik sama. banyak bosan, mau muntah lah....

chinaman

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Posted by chinaman > 2019-08-05 14:17 | Report Abuse

Mulai hari ini, rakyat mahu lihat debat hebat pasal abad ke 21 sains and tecknologi....Barulah ada international class Parliament kita....Pelabur tengok kita punya 'low class' debat pun lari....wakaka

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2019-08-05 15:24 | Report Abuse

....when hope got u-turned into just a joke

Sami_Value

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Posted by Sami_Value > 2019-08-05 15:37 | Report Abuse

Of all so many options, tulisan khat.

Just close down all vernaculars, 1 nation 1 school system. Enhance the existing national language.

After becoming government, now DAP become lap pigs.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2019-08-05 15:47 | Report Abuse

A lion had been watching three bulls feeding in an open field. He had tried to attack them several times, but they kept together and helped each other to drive him off.

The lion had little hope of eating them, for he was no match for three strong bulls with their sharp horns and hoofs. But he could not keep away from that field, for it is hard to resist watching a good meal, even when there is little chance of getting it.

Then one day the bulls had a fight. When the hungry lion came to lick his chops and watch them as he did each day, he found them in separate corners of the field, as far away from one another as they could get.

It was now an easy matter for the lion to attack the bulls one at a time.


khat and ZN......not enough to give an ultimum yet?

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2019-08-05 16:44 | Report Abuse

lion = singa = saetan = S

S had been watching three bulls (pkrr, ammanah, rocket) feeding in an open field ater GE14.....

S's frenemies then introduced ZN to S.....in an attempt to weaken the coalition......

(to be continued)

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2019-08-05 16:58 | Report Abuse

ZN= duri dalam daging

S and konco2 = api dalam sekam

Time for the 3 bulls to wake up.....and say 'no' to all duri dalam daging

Wise up ....identify and eliminate all the api dalam sekam

jasonor

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Posted by jasonor > 2019-08-05 17:11 | Report Abuse

now malaysian chinese and indian need learn jawi. then in sejarah form 4 already full with tamadun islam topic. mamakthir invited umno and pas to join ppbm and recently, umno and pas also came and join meeting with mamakthir. to discuss what, we don't know because other pakatan leaders are not invited except for one. that is his loyal macai azmin. after few days, mazlee announced that sjkc and sjkt need learn jawi. in return for pas support, what do u think mamakthir will gv to hadi. hadi have been championing for hudud for years.


hudud is coming guys.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2019-08-05 17:12 | Report Abuse

khat.... art.....hobby....leisure......

WHEN TO TALK AND FOCUS ON PRODUCTIVITY......ECONOMY AND TECHNOLOGY

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-08-05 18:37 | Report Abuse

Khat is islamic caligraphy mah....!!

Khat caligraphy its wording is in arab and usually it is about islam mah, the jawi we learn in the old says....are actually malay language written in the form of jawi instead of traditional " a,b.c....z letters loh" !!

So if u learn khat....usually u touch on islamic religion mah...!!

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-08-05 18:44 | Report Abuse

Insisting that khat (a form of Malay-Arabic calligraphy) is suddenly “an integral part of Malaysia’s national identity and Bahasa Malaysia which is the national language and the language of unity,” the education ministry has confirmed that khat will be part of the Year 4 Bahasa Melayu syllabus from next year.

The ministry’s decision has drawn protests from non-Malay educationists who argue that it has nothing to do with the national language and worry that such a move would further burden students and teachers.

The khat issue now has the potential to quickly turn into yet another contentious political issue with strong racial and religious undertones. As well, it demonstrates, once again, why many believe that Education Minister Maszlee Malik is simply the wrong man for the job.

As education minister, Maszlee has essentially been charged with two main tasks: (i) transform our current dismal and dysfunctional education system into a world-class one, and (ii) restructure our education system to promote national unity.

Khat will do neither.

Arbitrarily introducing a subject like khat without proper consultation – especially at the political level – has created disquiet particularly among non-Malays who fear that this is part of a wider scheme to Islamise the education syllabus and impose a narrow sectarian agenda on non-Malay students.

What Maszlee failed to recognise was that after years of race-baiting and religious extremism, there’s a huge trust deficit among non-Malays; it does not take much to spook them. If he really believed that khat is important to the reform agenda, he should have initiated an honest dialogue both with educationists and political leaders with a view to seeking consensus and preparing the ground for its introduction.

Isn’t that supposed to be the PH spirit – cooperation, consultation and consensus instead of rule by fiat?

By giving priority to khat ahead of more substantive and much-needed reforms, Maszlee has now convinced many Malaysians that PH has neither the political will nor the intellectual capacity to truly reform our education system. Instead of halting the decline in our education system, Maszlee has only accelerated it alongside with the exodus of both Malays and non-Malays from national-type schools.

In the process, Maszlee has also given Umno-PAS a new and potent weapon with which to hammer PH and further divide its Malay and non-Malay base. Umno president Ahmad Zahid Hamidi, already sensing the huge potential to inflame passions and stoke tensions, is now demanding that all PH Malay leaders take a stand in support of khat.

Expect Umno-PAS to call for a new round of demonstrations to protest the threat to the national language, Malay rights, and everything else they can think of.

Perhaps to head off Umno-PAS, Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad quickly came out in support of khat while Amanah’s Mahfuz Omar, in order to mollify Chinese concerns, suggested that Chinese calligraphy could also be “highlighted.” Highlighting it, however, is not the same as introducing it into the school curriculum.

DAP supremo Lim Kit Siang, also sensing the potential for trouble, broke ranks with many in his own leadership to swiftly express support for the khat initiative saying that he had learned Jawi (in prison) and it didn’t make him less Chinese. I, too, signed up for Jawi (in my first year at the University of Malaya in 1969) but that is not the point.

Aren’t there far more important issues that we need to focus on right now than calligraphy, whether Jawi, Chinese or Tamil? Haven’t we spent years, for example, moaning the declining standards of English and how it is hindering Malay graduates in particular from finding good jobs? Hasn’t Mahathir himself complained that too much time is being spent on religious education instead of key subjects like English, math and science? Shouldn’t we focus on issues like that instead of arguing about peripheral issues like calligraphy? In the interests of national unity, shouldn’t we focus on the things that bring us together rather than creating new issues to drive us further apart?

The khat issue also serves to underline one of the key challenges facing the PH administration – incompetence, poor political acumen, the absence of vision, and a lack of real passion for the “reformasi” cause. This is particularly evident among PPBM leaders who are mostly ex-Umno men or candidates picked up just before the last elections in a desperate bid to contest as many seats as possible. Maszlee, for one, never cut his teeth in the “reformasi” struggle and was simply a last-minute add-on who rode Mahathir’s coattails to victory.

Unsurprisingly, given his background, he seems more enthusiastic about promoting an Islamic agenda rather than the kind of reforms that premised PH’s rise to power. We are simply expecting too much from him if we think he can bring about the change that is so desperately needed. Mahathir does us all a great disservice.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-08-05 18:54 | Report Abuse

KHAT IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF MALAYSIA IDENTITY?

Khat has never been an integral part of Malaysia’s identity. Khat is Arabic calligraphy for heaven's sake. Computer graphics can now do all the blardy khat you need.

In the old days, only the few Melayus who hung around the royalty, knew how to read and write.

The majority were busy planting paddy, tending to livestock, fishing.

There were no such thing 100 famous Melayu writers.

We knew just one: Munshi Abdullah whose criticisms of the royalty and the aristocracy were suppressed by nationalist pro-Royalty historians.

Khat is calligraphy. Why do we need to make it a school subject for pupils? Even if they want to so call keep it alive, why in Bahasa Malaysia subject? Why not in Art subject?

This is my opinion on why they are forcing this to be integrated into Bahasa Malaysia subject. If you don't agree, that's fine...

ALL schools must have BM as part of their subjects. Whether its independent or government. So, they want to familiarise everyone to these kind of writing ... as a starter. That's why its put into BM subject which is compulsory to be learned by all schools. Once our youngs are so use to this writings, then welcome Arabic... then you know where this is going...

Smart way to infiltrate eh?

Heyyy!!! Just look at our neighbour....

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-08-05 19:03 | Report Abuse

Like it or not, the hard truth is once you step out of Malaysian soil, the Malay language becomes useless and worthless, unless of course you travel to Indonesia or Brunei or to a certain extent – Singapore. Interestingly, Malay still retains the status of national language in Singapore as the language was historically the lingua franca in the region. The national anthem – “Majulah Singapura” – is entirely in Malay.

But thanks to decades of discrimination and racism policies practised by the previous Barisan Nasional government, the minorities – ethnics Chinese and Indian – find it increasing harder to justify learning the language. The only reason students in vernacular schools learn the Malay language is because the subject is compulsory by virtue of it being the official and national language.

The majority of the non-Malays send their children to vernacular school because the national school sucks and has been transformed to become religious schools. Well, it was the Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad, who confessed to this fact. The focus on religion has caused students ill-equipped to get jobs. Naturally, the non-Malays, especially the Chinese, ignore such school like a plague.

Students of SJKC Foon Yew 2 - Johor Baru

To make matters worse, even after the old regime was toppled and replaced with the new government of Pakatan Harapan, non-Malay students who achieved 10 As in his Sijil Pelajaran Malaysia (SPM) and a CGPA of 4.0 in Matriculation continue to be rejected by local universities to study their preferred field of interest such as the medical degree.

If non-Malay students are systematically discriminated before they even enter the job market, what good is learning the so-called national language if discrimination becomes worse when the minorities try finding jobs in the civil service? Yes, government civil service is where the Malay language is used widely – both written and spoken.

Besides being the majority (61.7%) of the 32 million populations of Malaysia, the ethnic Malays dominate the civil service – 78.8%. The Malaysian army comprises 98% of Malays, while in the Royal Malaysia Police, 80% consists of Malays. It’s a simple supply and demand market. It isn’t rocket science that mastering the Malay language is pretty useless if you can’t find jobs as public servants.

Malaysia Civil Servants - Majority Ethnic Malay

As long as they could communicate with the owner of Malay stall selling “nasi lemak”, or filling some forms at government agencies and strike a basic conversation with government officers, there isn’t any compelling reasons the non-Malays must achieve proficiency the level of an expert in Malay language. Why would you waste time on something that offers no value in return?

And now out of the blue, the genius Education “Shoe” Minister Maszlee Malik practically bulldozed another silly pet project to the vernacular school – “Khat” writing or “Jawi” calligraphy – as part of the Bahasa Melayu (Malay language) syllabus for Year 4 primary students, scheduled to be implemented next year (2020). Of course, all hell breaks loose.

Although the Education Ministry assured NUTP (National Union of the Teaching Profession) that students would not be assessed on their mastery of the art, the ethnic minorities are not convinced. After 60 years of discrimination and racism, who can blame the ethnic Chinese and Indians to be suspicious that this could be the beginning of Islamisation of vernacular schools?

Education Minister Dr Maszlee Malik - Biodata Resume

It was quite a mind-boggling idea from Mr. Maszlee, the same education minister who had been ridiculed for his black shoes policy and discriminatory matriculation programme, where he had argued that if the critics did not want the racist quota system, then jobs in the private sector should be given to Bumiputera, even if they could not speak proper English, let alone Mandarin Chinese.

But what’s wrong with forcing the Jawi scripting down the throat of Chinese and Indians primary students? Well, what’s wrong with forcing the Chinese calligraphy into the throat of Malay primary students then? There’s nothing wrong, actually. But the problem is the misplaced of priorities in enforcing the “Khat” to the extent of making it mandatory.

The Education ministry claims that the Jawi calligraphy was an art of writing that could make learning more enjoyable for pupils while teaching them beautiful handwriting. If that is true, then it should be categorised under extracurricular activities – similar to Chinese calligraphy, arts and crafts, dance and drama, abacus mental arithmetic, robotic, taekwondo and whatnot.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-08-05 19:08 |

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Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2019-08-05 20:18 | Report Abuse

Once... biar mati anak, jangan mati adat

Now... hilang akar umbi dan jati diri, segala diganti arab, khat dan jawi

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2019-08-06 08:01 | Report Abuse

Before and after......losing own identity for deceitful arapic

Dulu.....KATA ITU KOTA

NOW.....Janji hanya buat dosa
(sinfully noncommital to promises)

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-08-06 08:02 | Report Abuse

compared to HK, we still better.............

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2019-08-06 08:12 | Report Abuse

Erosion of local traditional value......LEAD BY EXAMPLE.....

Kerbau dipegang pada tali, manusia dipegang pada janji
Kata reformasi dan ekonomi, kaht dan jawi pula jadi realiti

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2019-08-06 08:22 | Report Abuse

Khianat redefined....sebelum dan selepas GE14


sebelum......musuh jadi kawan

selepas......kawan pula lawan

Individu berupa duri dalam daging
Senang dikenalpasti dan asing
Akibat dibiar api dalam sekam
Musnah satu pakatan dari dalam

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2019-08-06 08:40 | Report Abuse

Too many false start after GE14......icerd....rome

Old value........BERANI KERANA BENAR, MENIKUS KERANA SALAH

NOW..............Delusi terus menular, ge15 pasti kalah


Mntri2 dalam kabinet
Janji2 swap under carpet
Bagai kacang lupakan kulit
Kejayaan ge14 yang amat sulit
Bagai ulat lupakan daun
Harimau Baru gagal mengaum
Manusia senang lupa daratan
Sibuk gaduh hal tak berkaitan

Only right things to do.....not focused...but give excuses
Introducing all trivial stuff......at the people's expenses
(ppl= tax payers)

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2019-08-06 08:50 | Report Abuse

Just imagine outside the box.....

The motive behind the Khat issue is... The Shoe Minister with his education background - Degree in Fiqh looks like going like an islamic extremist.... ...so he is trying is best to put additional 4 to 5 Agama Teachers (mostly from Sekolah Menengah Agama education background) into the Chinese & Tamil SRJK schools streams as permanent teachers.... roughly around 2,000 schools.... so he trying to dump -
5 Agama teacher
X 2000 schools
= approximetly 10,000 teachers into Sekolah-Sekolah SRJK in peninsula malaysia...

He his thinking all Chinese n Indians are stupid n would not bantah this Khat issue...Mamaktgir n Shoe Minister taking everybody for a ride....
☹☹

Wow......gaji buta way to create 10000 jobs (for those self-voluntarily cheated victims of low quality education) by shaking legs ......for mustlazily and mamakthir.....ONE STONE HITS TWO BIRDS

.......continue fake educations and provide jobs

Who needs gray matters....or IR 4.0?

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2019-08-06 08:52 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Aug 6, 2019 8:02 AM | Report Abuse

compared to HK, we still better.............

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yes....better still....so still got room to get worse from here?

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2019-08-06 08:55 | Report Abuse

Once kata itu kota and manusia dipegang pada janjinya
Now middleastized culture of mustlazily and gaji buta

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2019-08-06 09:01 | Report Abuse

Before and after .....ge14



then........down to earth issues

now.........afterlife and trivialities

yoyo

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Posted by yoyo > 2019-08-06 10:56 | Report Abuse

Cannot see how by learning khat can make Malaysia a strong country. Only let foreigner see that Malaysia becoming more Arabic and Islamic

lsj89

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Posted by lsj89 > 2019-08-06 10:59 | Report Abuse

talked like we got better choice, political is always chose the less evil one
u talked about Jawi, this already been planned by Bn since 2016 and already decided to be implemented in 2020, so if u dump PH and choose BN, the result still be the same

your point is valid but u didt provide any solutions to overcome this, everything still the same, Malays still are majority, anyone in power would still prefer bias to malays for political gain,

the things is at least we get rid of the Najib, thats the improtant

zzas

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Posted by zzas > 2019-08-06 11:31 | Report Abuse

what bad about najib?
what good about mahathir?

mylinuxbsd

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Posted by mylinuxbsd > 2019-08-06 12:00 | Report Abuse

a lot racist DAP people posting here. look what LGE and DAP has done to our stock market. He is one incompetent finance minister despite educated in vernakular school.

kingcobra

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Posted by kingcobra > 2019-08-06 12:06 | Report Abuse

FATHER N SON (LIMS) FULLY SUPPORT MAH...we are outsiders got no say! guan eng n kit siang go 2 hell!

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-08-06 12:10 | Report Abuse

DAP must have balls to take on mahathir or even the other Pakatan component partys, when matters deviate or wrong direction loh, if not it is another MCA mah....!!

What is use of PH govt, if it run like umno & pas leh ??

Yes, prepare to stand your grounds...if it mean collapse of PH govt, just let it be mah....!!

Dap should have principle, no need to be a lapdog to Bersatu loh, this if, need to fight a component party go & fight lah...!!

We want a better msia, if Dap in the govt, cannot help to do a good job, then what is the use leh ??

No need be a pondan lah....!!

DickyMe

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Posted by DickyMe > 2019-08-06 13:55 | Report Abuse

You like it or not, the creeping of Islamisation and Malaynising every entities had been going on since the old cock became PM. It started gradually with guarantees that it will not affect nons, but later it became mandatory with "follow the order" and who knows, threats too.

DickyMe

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Posted by DickyMe > 2019-08-06 13:59 | Report Abuse

The winner in all controvery is PAS. They are mostly MALAY and practice ISLAM. Either way, they still control the civil service through proxies. That is why many PH plans never became reality. PH already have enemy within the coalition, BERSATU's Mahatir, MAszlee, AMANAH's Mujahid, PKR's Zoo, Reverse Engineer AA and a few more.

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