how to defined "undervalue counter"? L&G why been always called so call undervalue counter, reason is no matter how good the results the price still remain same. For any long term investor, first thing to consider is " dividen" , the price will increase proportional with its quarter result when the good news something bonus share, dividen which will attract more investor eyes on this share..this happen such as huayang, oskp, sbc, etc . otherwise it will remain undervalue for long time.. don buy just see the low pe, we know investor had money to bought it, samething big shareholder also plenty of cash 440million...if they don buy, why u move?

xncziyi44:we dun know bottom price or rebound price, follow big fish moving , if EPF or other local fund had acquired any share, then follow , dun acted faster than them, it is not the good time to be hero..Agree with the view Lonaldo, never fall in the love with counter, we believe the " the God we Trust" $$$ as written on US DOLLAR ,our hard earn money, invest carefully ..In stock market, especially big share holder they are very clever with strong bullet, of course not stupid and sometimes stupid also pretend only. If one big fund MUJF keep disposing cheap price to us, in the same time no other local fund( EPF, Amanah Saham, etc) pick up the order, why we should we acted smart to pick the falling knife?
Are they stupid or overfear just sellling cheap cheap to us or we are gonna acted hero to protect this share? just silly thought n sharing, hope will not influence your buy/sell..good night..

.why the cimb share drop so much ? is it related CIMB NIAGA? the info can be search ownself on the percentage to its cimb group ratio business if interested.

Indonesia, our neighbour country, with 200million population and economic growth 5-7% and banking almost 15-20 growth which attract most foreign bank to do business there. There had 120 license bank and will be short to 80 bank future.U can seen the competitive exist between local n local or local vs foreign bank with so many bank in indonesia.

That why Indonesia apply new rules for Foreign bank to run business in indonesia,
1)all foreign bank must registered/ convert to "PT" company within five years instead of " branch " they are using, what is difference between PT and Branch?
eg, Cimb Niaga are not allowed to transfer money to CIMB HQ which will cause liquity or cash flow tight to its management under new rule.

2) all foreign bank majority max up to 40%..what is mean? that mean u cannot control your own company, based on international rule if BRASAILE III agreement, any foreign bank investor who are not able to fully control their own company, they must increased their capital to protect from the risk management in other words increased their capital loh.. Cimb Group had almost 90% of cimb niaga, so if cimb still wanna to do business in indonesia , they had no choice to sell cheap cheap price to other to fulfil their requirement/ lower the share from 90% to 40% in future..

Remarks: DBS singapore due to this new rule had cancelled their plan to buy over the one of indonesia local bank, besides another local bank in indonesia is MAYBANK ..

If we search from share price PT CIMB NIAGA latest 3 month history price after this new rule introduction from indonesia parliment, this counter cimb niaga had accumulated 20% drop .
any hints or info related with its mother share CIMB?

personal thinking, banking is traditional business and very profitable market, it is common their government wanna to protect their local bank due to politic or other issue. so Far philiphine is allowed foreign bank to own 100% share , cut loss in indonesia market n invest in philiphine market? It Proves market are tough and competitive anywhere especially in oversea market...

so everybody how u think it will reflect the cimb price future? bluechip, EPF favourite, Prime minister brother company, so what?

Without good management , strategy, innovative, well planning before enter new market or oversea market, the rusults is burn load truck of money to learn experience..

in share market , one thing very important, can share profit together but not loss..one decision making in investment in indonesia bank sector let cimb learn how poor of their management decision making . domestic market outlook is more toughing plus oversea market continue pump money,,how far it can go further? foreign fund share ratio is not as big as local fund, but they continue disposal of share without local fund support will no end dropping.. follow big fish moving, if no activities of epf, khazanah acquired any share, just stay outside..this round cimb drop is more on their own problem, not big environment factor..the only good news for cimb share will up is cimb must admitted their mistake, cut loss in indonesia bank sector or close business in indonesia..i still remember when temasek holding invest in indonesia also face same scenario, cannot make money( maybe environment not benefit for foreign bank), and sold all bank share to other, unluckily cimb buy with the highest price and cimb proud to announced their market share to indonesia..Now is time for cimb to burn money...hope we are not the one to burn together with cimb..

banking sector is indicator for any country to measure their economic growth. With the continue crude oil price drop, of course, GDP, export figure for rubber, crude oil, palm oil drop tremendously recent few months maybe extend until Q2/2015. Try to Avoid the banking Sector unless ur bullet is endless. After Financial result come out, it seemed not bright n selling side are strong.. anyway open an opportunity to any investor buy low price intention..

siva 68: mystyle is first consider risk percentage high or not, i prefer buy major correction price almost 50% counter due to politic, economic n war factor but not company management. Politic, economic weak, war maybe will affect few months to 1 years. After the things over, it will back to normal price. so mostly u can know which sector or counter i invest now.it maybe will drop further, but the space is narrow.
Again, this is my style, u can choose ur own invest tools..

Siva 68: This share boost by its GST concept, it had been top ten active counter almost 25 trading day. Goreng counter usually is follow big fish eat small fish rule. of course, they will not eat all, otherwise all small fish wil ran away. besides, small fish also wanna cari makan.. if drop 60-64 cents , will be good time to enter. this share run too fast, and volume too high , must had one group people goreng..becareful..i don think so much small shareholder can boost it price up so fast..

Myeg are much more stable compared to the ifcamsc. At least you can trace last 5 year financial result of myeg.but i didnt propose u to buy/sell.

always steady: i don like to promote any counter, no suggestion for u. better learn yourself n gain experience,at least lose n win still u decide n know its reason and analyse the procedure how u win and lose rather than people help/advice and next time will not make mistake.Just invest the sector u know,imagine yourself is a businessman n u become their shareholder, in the process u will know the company advantage n disadvantage , management, etc and predict the future. if you are correct in your own judgement during first investment , it can manipulate it other counter n pratice in ur whole life. Any one also learn from mistake, good luck to u ...

Sorry for giving penny opinions first,
let us imagine how investor to decide to buy a counter? news?
Ya, correct. News.from where? if we do deep reseach look like detective KONAN ( maybe pronounce wrong), i found 1 culprit and hints, YA ...READ FREE ARTICLE and believe their analysis.

let see the history chart started from 28/9 to 13/11, daily volume 5 to 6 million volume increase 10 times volume and withstand until now? why ? is any related 十面埋伏article?
This expert usually analyse undervalue and also penny stock counter counter such as ( L &G, SEAL, INSAS,IFCAMSC,SUMATEC, IBHD, etc)
Mostly trend after this expert analyse the counter will boost to record high , but after some period, the counter will become MORE UNDERVALUE COUNTER, eg,
1.SEAL RM1.3 JUMP RM 1.47 but drop until 76cent lowest and now maintain approx 94cents
2. L & G 58 cents after introduce by him jump 69 cents but drop to 48 cents n now 55 cents,
3. INSAS RM1.23 after promote become rm1.34 and today become rm1.1( lowest 74 cents)
4. sumatec 35 cents after promote become 62cents now back to 32 cents
5.IFCAMSC 40 cents, after promote become 89 cents, today approx 80cents, future?

In this world,NO FREE LUNCH, we cannot blame other people also, i just advise in share market got a lot of high and transpalent HAND N POWER..DON need buy the share just believe other people said. No people will continue provide you free resource and knowledge, experience to make you rich...
Again , include my words n advice also can ignore because i also new bird....
WATCH CAREFULLY THE VOLUME, NEWS , INVESTOR FORUM n EMOTION which will be related the price of share..

Anyway This 十面埋伏article also got introduce KSL which make investor make money also. MY POINT IS any news or article which raise investor concern will affect investor to buy and sell. Sudden increased volume will be make the counter biased from its direction, and investor had a feeling find it Mr right counter and continie overbuy but usually will not be happy ending..if you had a calm n peaceful mind during share analysis on investor emotion, you will be laugh at the last.
No any counter will keep increased acted like no ending even with good future and strong fundamental,
Even MA YUN use 20 years to cook his alibaba become china no 1 .

All good company must be grow slowly, built fundamental, expand, innovative and invest and then fly..
I don think is wise way just had politic factor concern about GST BENEFIT counter will let u ALL IN this counter which just believe it will bring multi hundred million profit to this counter after next year GST apply. Try to recall 6P of foreign worker few years ago apply, until now our government still havent solve it.Do u think it will so successful of our government will be apply on GST which benefit this counter to jump to rm2?

Again trade at ur own risk....be happy , every rich man must must had greedy genetic, but same time poor guy also had greedy genetic ...difference between rich n poor do is rich guy earn little here n there, but poor guy earn as much as they can until bubble PECAH...GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY...

As i describe to investor about this counter trend last two weeks but not in this forum, afraid other people will throw egg on me, pls refer cimb forum.
Mostly goreng counter trend are like that,the price will increased every trading day with no any announcement made, but becareful when big boss , newspaper, or investment highlight or announce any good news to promote this counter. You know , its time to back home .
this almost same happen in the Sumatec, you can trace their history chart..
Today sumatec adjust from 62 cent to 32 cent after all the good news come out, if u are expert in goreng counter , u should the rule of game of Goreng counter.
NO NEWS INCREASED NON STOP, GOOD NEWS ANNOUNCED BALIK KAMPUNG.

Wah, so complicated analysis, Really Profesional. Let us imagine such situation,
1) CRUDE OIL market slump, WTI =USD 50 barrel, skpetro =RM 2-2.5
2) CRUDE OIL market bound, WTI=USD 100barrel , skpetro=RM4.5-5

malaysia GDP are quite depend on oil n gas sector, if scenario 1 happen, mostly malaysia will be back to 20 years , any counter u invest will lose . Sector heavy impact will be bank and property sector, i not suprise KSL will be back to BELOW RM2. Why i said said , just see Russia now, currency drop 30% within 3 months due to heavy depend on energy sector . So don need happy upsidedown119 keep promote this counter..

Scenario 2, mostly investor believe market up n down is normal, oil producer country also not stupid, got money don want to earn, at last they will cut down their production to stabilise the oil price. Sometimes , we don need to purpose to produce Nuclear Bomb, what they need to do just let the market they will prepare nuclear bomb if they need. This is same thing for currrent situation, market not so concern about the reduce production oil supply, what they want to heard is these few big Brother said " they will control the price if they want, then the investor will know the meaning behind it..."

In ecosistem, we know any specis are linked together to maintain the balance of the system. In business environment i think also same , if 1 sector slump or one country slump, whole sector or world also heavy injured, no one can be avoid it unless u are not in the market.

so Let us hope every sector will recover soon to boost other sector grow together. anyway, business and human always fall and get up, but the direction still same , move up and forward...

Don be so afraid and influence by people, Good luck everybody....if really no earning, at least learn something..

mostly investor sell one share is probably due to 2 reason= earn the profit and sold, or lose and cut loss

That why price of share is determine by investor emotion in certain duration not by its share fundamental.
Every sector had their range of PE for investor to consider to go in the counter. Eg, banking range around 10 to 15 with yield 3-5% ( MAYBANK, CIMB, HLB, etc), consumer range from 15-20 , yield 5 to 7% ( BAT, CARLSBERG, NESTLE), property sector range 5-10, yield 5%( huayang, oskp, sbc,etc)
For oil n gas sector PE & YIELD range 15 to 30 such as petgas (pe 26), knm(pe =33),, umwog(pe=32), dialog( pe=35), skpetro(pe=12), etc.

it is very common why skpetro trading volume quite high compared other oil n gas counter , most people focus this share due to lower pe( more cheaper among the sector, you also can said most people hurry for selling this stock). it is very difficult the price will drop below rm2.8 even crude oil drop further cause other fund manager will sell other counter to realise their profit n go in this counter because it is obviouly undervalue. i cant imagine oil n gas factor got trading as low as pe=6-8 in past 20 years unless the world market slump 40% which dowj drop from 17500 to 10,000 point..is it possible, all still depend on the investor mind...

Oil is most important commodity product in the world. This resouces must be go through million of years and will be finished in the future,, that why we give it another name " black gold" . in history who control the energy and who will be king in the world. That why netherland control wind, Great Britain control charcoal, and USA control crude oil who control the world in different century. of course, with the fast technology development in past ten years, we know other energy will be replace the crude when this resources finished.

Try to imagine if one country without crude oil, first the country economic and daily living activities will totally hang and stop. that why most war happen in last few decades all are around crude oil topic and people are fighting for it. Since this resources are so important and we believed this also involve complicated and huge profit in this business chain. Nowadays , with the union OPEC, USA , RUSSIA and other producer oil country it is very easy to control world market price because we know if they are united together , consumer will buy expensive crude oil, if they fight each other , consumer will be winner.
It is very obviously politic factor are the most percentage factor to cause the crude oil price slump because if the demand is drop, they can simply just cut the supply to stabilse the market rather selling cheap cheap or lose money to the market , i don think this few big brother are going to doing charity for us.

For politic issue, it could be long term or short term. by the way to boycott the Russia it didnt work cause now china and Russia are in honeymoon , the Price will shoot up steady when hints the tension between Russia and ukraine improve better, USA and Europe give up punishment toward Russia economic. This move use by USA actually is so called "kill enemy 1000, injure own army 800" and USA intend to end up the game quickly at least for current situation. I Strongly believed oil n gas sector will be recovery soon after this politic game finished.. In this world, killer, drug smuggling, corruption also had lot of people doing, but lose money business i dont think people will do...That why i conclude the slump of price crude oil is just temporary and will be ended soon..Goood Night every body and Good luck soon...

if we traced the history of crude oil , most analyst conclude it more related politic rather than economic.

Recent crude oil slump, had few possibilty as below, (rumour not fact)
1)politic issue - union between usa n arab saudi press the price down to collapse the russia economic.
2) oversupply- world economic are weak, but the supply keep increased which price between oil producer are inevitable

For point 1, Russia reserve money compared last time are at least 50 times bigger compared year 1998.This moves not smarter choice for USA, first Russia can make their currency drop similarly to breakeven the impact of price slump, besides the Russia n China had same enemy,Usa. Russia still can ask china for support. if for long term, OPEC,USA ,RUSSIA lose together, winner only for oil importer country. So the Politic reason possibility can be ruled out

For point 2, price slump which market hope OPEC country will reduced its supply, but their answer is NO, AND THEY CAN ACCEPT BELOW USD80/BARREL. New technology for oil n gas which increased capacity indirectly prove supply more than demand end up price drop gradually.

Besides, most news also tell us one things breakeven to produce crude oil is usd80/barrel..

Above news is nothing special n can be find from google or newspaper.

History happen few times of crude oil crisis, if the crisis cause the crude oil jump high, then the world recession will happpen in the same time.
I am wonder how the the oil producer can survive before year 2007 cause crude oil are trading usd30-35/barrel? or they just pretend pity lose money when hit below usd80/barrel instead they still gain huge profit at current price?

One things is confirm world had endure high price of crude oil more than five years, it hurt badly especially euro zone n world economic also, The reason of consumption crude oil drop probably due to high price of crude oil this few year which slower the industry activity.

It seemed price drop is inevitable and major correction for crude oil is normal to avoid the next world recession coming. i remain conservative that oil producer country will lose money if crude oil fall below usd80/barrel. Besides it will not slower the oil n gas activity or forced them cut supply.

recent price drop on oil n gas counter more on investor fear factor, it is provide very good opportunity to pick low.

this type of counter must be aware oh, similar charecter about sumatec, price jump and break record high with no news updated, after announced all good news , it make a u turn...don over excited about this counter..good luck everbody

ZHulian story tell us Don simply just grab the falling knife , not all time buy when people is feared unless u know about the future of this counter very well
in share market, not so depend of data, if u pratice like this, i suggested u better believe all the advise from fund manager, cause they are more pro , full time and more sufficient information than us, don always critised them simply just provide target price and let other investor lose money bacause they also analyse based on computer n software assistance.

We never know whether this counter or oil n gas sector are sunset business and also the price will drop further. but last night crude oil hit usd 76.26 barrel lowest in this 4 year will not suprised cause whole day oil n gas counter drop unceasely.

Usually if no news updated, the price of this counter will continue sink because investor are still in feared. That why world news on crude oil is very important if u wanna to play this counter or oil n gas counter.

Today had a very important news from USA, their mid term election. of course, Mr obama lose in this game, but his opponent team mostly from energy sector are winner in this game. So this news will be stimulate the crude oil recover a bit as u see usa market now. Besides, after midterm of usa election, it will bring goood news to usa market cause it almost same with our election coming, mostly will bring good news by push the share market a bit.

Price is determine by the news n investor emotion during the turbulence market. During the good time market , it flow likely by its technical n fundamental..Good luck everybody...

in share market, not so depend of data, if u pratice like this, i suggested u better believe all the advise from fund manager, cause they are more pro , full time and more sufficient information than us, don always critised them simply just provide target price and let other investor lose money bacause they also analyse based on computer n software assistance.

We never know whether this counter or oil n gas sector are sunset business and also the price will drop further. but last night crude oil hit usd 76.26 barrel lowest in this 4 year will not suprised cause whole day oil n gas counter drop unceasely.

Usually if no news updated, the price of this counter will continue sink because investor are still in feared. That why world news on crude oil is very important if u wanna to play this counter or oil n gas counter.

Today had a very important news from USA, their mid term election. of course, Mr obama lose in this game, but his opponent team mostly from energy sector are winner in this game. So this news will be stimulate the crude oil recover a bit as u see usa market now. Besides, after midterm of usa election, it will bring goood news to usa market cause it almost same with our election coming, mostly will bring good news by push the share market a bit.

Price is determine by the news n investor emotion during the turbulence market. During the good time market , it only flow by its technical n fundamental..Good luck everybody...

Usually all the technical data, cashflow, debt, pe, roi , quarter result is just reference, not determine its price. A very good counter , when recession come, it will follow the trend slump . why? it all because investor emotion or sensitive toward the market news or announcement, again , when few days after investor calm down, they will think either to go back or pull out the market. Should be able to read and analyse other investor mind or emotion toward the any market announcement and sentiment is more important than technical data.Usually , all the company data n financial condition had been known by major shareholder, so is not so important just buy or sell after result is come out because the major shareholder will be acted faster than us .

but is is very important if you prepare enough homework and do research and know where the most investor go and run and you are acted faster than other .

if we trace from history 1970 to 2014 now, most of crude oil slump or jump are related to politic rather than economic, this info can be search ownself, no need to explain more. Besides, most of the price is controlled by OPEC by just simply reduce capc. but obviously OPEC didnt do anything, so mostly had people said this time is still politic game cause they are "so good , doing charity to the world, selling cheap cheap to whole country " we know breakeven for russia to produce one barrel is approx usa80 barrel, maybe less, so recent price are flow between usa 80 barrel if USA wanna collapse russia economic. of course , slump price of crude oil had make the oil n gas related counter drop also. It can be seemed today the volume today is highest and more than 16/10 /2014 which klse drop until 1750. Don need to guess,very obvious strong signal of oversold and panic selling within this few months ever today .

but our concern part is is it good time to enter? after major correction from rm4.96 to below rm 3.15, it is offer almost 40% discount, we cannot control the investor emotion indirectly we don know the price in future. but one things is if this is politic game, we know usa also an oil producer country, if the price maintain usd 80 barrel for half to one year , it will hurt their economic and their middle election is coming which will become target of opposition party to critised them.

I still maintain good future of oil n gas counter, bacause crude oil is the blood for industry and automotive which will not change witthin this 10 years at least. And it also very important commodity product for certain country to control. i pick a bit today because its price seemed attrative today. maybe it will drop further, but i not lucky n smarter than other who can predict will drop until rm2.8, rm 2.5 , rm 2 etc..nowadays market very hard to see good fundamental company major correction 40% discount.
Good Luck everybody...

it starts with S..n top ten counter today

Let us Share one counter which last few year are investor favourite counter..Zhulian
From highest rm5 and sudden Quarter result drop 50%, this counter price plunge rm1 to rm3.5..today this counter become rm2.1..So again , reading investor emotion is quite important, this counter until today havent revover is due to thailand n domestic sale and havent had any solution to settle it, that why reflect it price after recent 4 quarter results havent improve.

Cimb had drop from rm 9 highest slowly to rm6.2 to rm 6.5. it show something to us, most investor had less confidence about the future of this company. At least the management do something through merging and expand its business to oversea. so this counter if successful merging maybe will back to above rm7 but this counter will fly provided the next two quarter result improve through effect of merging and expansion. so far, cimb in indonesia n thailand are not perform well . Be honest, i don had any share in cimb, just play short term during panic selling pick little , buy rm6.17 and sold rm6.5 recently.

Crude oil slump this few months, of course it is reflect in the oil n gas counter and raise my concern again. i still maintain optimism of oil n gas sector, future still good. If we traced history of crude oil slump and jump, mostly it still effected by political issue rather than economic issue because OPEC and arab saudi can reduce their production if they want. For Russia breakeven is usd80 per barrel, that why for crude oil fall below usd80 barrel, but for long term it will effect the whole world economic include usa itself because usa also a oil producer country.

Today show a strong panic selling in oil and gas counter , of course i buy a bit because i believe the future is still good. Same thing i pick the inari when it drop rm2.1 because it maybe effect in short period n will back to normal soon...

Good luck everybody..don ask me i pick which counter today, very obvious which counter in u got observe the oil n gas sector

don need worry, i will save ur email. When right time i will ask advise from you..

i not so expert than you. i buying the counter is based on investor emotion trend in future towards the stock. i not so concern about the company financial result cause mostly auditor and major shareholder had know before the financial result come out. The counter you are buying must be easy buy n sell otherwise will trapped. Warisan tc is good company but transaction is too low, you will facing very difficult to buy n sell. BAT is quite stable counter in cousumer counter , in tabacco line , JTI had privatised, no other option to choose, will stable, n dividen also stable. Besides, every tax imposed by government in the meanwhile help this counter make more profit because tabacco maker also adjusted the price in the same time. For Brewery sector, try to avoid it, their profit drop( top n bottom line drop together, is very obvious gab n carlsberg lose 30-40% from highest ), it mean competitive each other and market grow had limitation( only non muslim is consumer, the price of brewery are high, very difficult to increased the price to increased the profit in future.)

The benefit of Gst counter can accumulated a bit such as IFCAMSC, SMRT,

One more thing , japanese yen drop only benefit to japan company not the company had business with them, even the yen drop, doesnt mean the malaysian importer import the japan product will be cheaper.

property counter try to avoid it , mostly jump 2-5 times above compared last two years.

When klse index is so high, must be aware a bit oh, sometimes rest is to take longer distance.

Recently QE implemented by japan about the 80 trillion yen, the main reason is effect of increases the gst from 5% to 8 % which weaker their economic down n reverse and their government had delay until further notice. Malaysia people had no experience before, but i believe other foreign fund manager had many experience to using our weaker point to attack our economy...

Sometimes A Giant will fail, Conservative investor like Warren buffet sometimes also will lose money. His Favourite Stock on IBM, COCA COLA recently just let him facing paper lose on 2.5billion usd within 3 days. giant hypermarket such as Tesco also let him suffer 1bilion lose. Recently bought over Hentz (usa ketchup maker) also still under losing money.

The main reason of ALL above company profit drop due to they acted not fast enough as other. The most company valuable thing is changes and challenge and create. If for Usa current technology stock , this two year rising star is Avori, malaysia similar stock = Inari.

Of course, banking sector is traditional business which will be exist next hundred years n more. Same thing , analyse all the banking counter, pick the counter which they had diversified business which it will/had adopt the changes, challenge n creative environment..

Most people buy cimb counter is long term player. This company are doing the major corporate exercise, merging, had some patience. If successful, the price will recovery fast to above rm 7. Of course, during the process of merging, the price will be fly low..

recent few month news updated had good n bad,

the good news so far we know is usa economic data are better than expected, ECB (euro central bank) buy back the bond monthly tp reduce debts monthly, usa fed reserve will maintain low interest at least until next year depend the economic data, japan follow usa implement QE 80 trillion yen which stimulate whole world market jump last friday. energy drop to lowest 5 years almost us$80 barrel will help company save a lot of expenses for industry sector.

The bad news is USA QE stop, probably will increased the interest rate on next year, euro zone economic still weak , crude oil at US80 bARREL mean oil maker profit drop, world index record highest instead of weak economic data.

MALAYSIA as a oil exporter such as petronas profit will drop further if crude oil drop until us60-70 barrel. due to effect of QE implement by USA during fannie mac and mortage crisis 2007, world market is full of hot money cause most of commodity product and property in the world jump 2-3 times recent few years.
The recent crude oil drop probably is politic factor which combination of arab country with usa to collapse the russia economy, but we know other oil produce country also get effected.

malaysia government income is quite depend of crude oil income, if cpo continue drop, malaysia reserve money will drop further, bubble of property, is malaysia people can be avoided? bank sector will be first crashed if this things happen..

Most of crisis happen usually had the sympton of bubble first then slump? do we think our index is trading at record high? second , is property market price too high which every people feel even market slump the price of property will not fluctuate so much different? is our economic goood times had past?

When bad times we must had some optimisc, going to good times we must aware the bad times will come after good times is on peak..Market always balancing and move forward...good luck everybody

Here had lot of expert and high hand to give advise and share info, i know you are the sincere investor. no need exchange email, i afraid both of us email full of junk mail. this few counter you can trace but not asked you to buy, gst benefit sector counter such as IFCAMSC, MYEG( if you really wanna buy, bought when no news announced or updated, sold when they announced all good news). most people know smartphone , smartphone benefit sector , INARI. Related share --INSAS jump high today raised my concern and suspicious about this share.. again this is cimb forum , we should not run out of topic..

kian Leong Lim: wah so much question throw on me.i am beginner, unable to answer you satisfied. first, let us show very good example of merge between hlb and eon, reduce operating cost and expenses with higher profit return with remaining same resources. Cimb try to increase its profit by expand it business to oversea such as other south east asia country. of course not so smooth in indonesia, thailand ok, other country dun know. Of course the management had intention to do it rather than remain at the same place rather nothing. Cimb in my personal thinking will be improve after succesful of merge , this can be seen from history trend price chart between hlb and eon which weak before merge but steady grow after merge . if Really bank negara raise the interest rate in future, even they had more margin can play, but transaction of overall will be slow, it will caused another situation, too many people save money but less people borrow money which cause more fierce competition among each bank.

So far after the recession on 1997, mostly south east asia country include our country reserve money are improving than before. i don think currency crisis will be exist within these two years, again they striker had their own target, RUSSIA currency, we are temporary save.

of coursencurrency crisis had two way, inflation increased which normal people are victim, but good for sector who doing export business. this can traced from weaker currency of japan yen

kian leong lim: i am beginner, cant give any good advise to you. afraid let you lose money. one things agree with you, nowadays very hard to earn money. For myself, just don make lo rather than lose money especially index approx 1840. i can wait, no hurry one..if u really too much money no put, buy reit. in oversea such as australia , singapore, etc, ratio between reit VS share approx 50 vs 50. yield 6 to 8 %, safe place...

Activetrader: if based on the news n info of this share, we know recent price is quite low. besides, pe n yield also quite low among in the bank share. but this only news we know, i more concern on the news we don know about the sector which we neglect. From recent quarter result of this share, turn over increased but profit drop a lot, is it will be affected the next quarter? what the hints of this ? is it same in all bank share? i compared other bank recent report, it showed same sympton. That why i think the bank sector are facing fierce competitive higher operating cost. That why merge of bank trend is compulsory to reduce operating and share the resources n profit in future. Our malaysia gdp is quite depend of CPO and palm oil, property investment, recent this three sector are getting weak, that why our prime minister go to china , europe, usa to sell the bond in meanwhile also prove our country reserve money is low. Is it the reason pr hints related prime minister asked his brother to control khazanah ? My worst part is big environment keep down, end of the days bank negara will force to increased the interest rate to prevent inflation which deep worsen the bank sector. if Really recession coming, this counter can stand if domestic sector keep down? i don know this bank had other business oversea which diversified the risk?

must Apple vs Apple la, dont confuse people. DBS Singapore PE =11.18, yield=3.17 , compared cimb pe=13, yield =3.4; maybank pe =13.34, yield =5.39, PBBANK PE=16.72, YIELD=2.66, etc. Be honest, any local fund or beginner will buy DBS instead of malaysia bank share cause they are cheaper than us not simply just SGD VS RM LA..

Jude: don say the pointless word, it doesnt help much. Forum is the place to gather view, experience and opinion not the buddha place to advise people to become good guy. i rather listen people why and how to lose and win during the investment instead of you just ask people don said so much. i believe most investor are clever enough to clarify anything they read. "the One" i think you are share right comment because at least you show other investor "buy during when most people are feared or oversold" . In share market , the theories of " buy when people are feared and sold when people are overexcited" is quite work. Most big fund such as hedge fund, morgan stanley, JFMorgan, Citibank, Moody are expert of playing this game by make huge profit with just influence the investor emotion by just simple using the rating company to comment on certain sector, company and country. Most of investor received info and news from different channel, that why price of share from different investor had different own target price and share change everyday because playing of this game is People not computer . if you are focus and do a lot homework of your prefer share invest , you know when is oversold and when is overbuy, just prepare enough bullet wait one chance(it maybe few years) to grab the opportunity. Risk is the rule in share market, that why we are here. Peaceful mind and eagle eye to win in the turbulence share market. don always just let the big fish to win in the game only. Wish everybody good luck in share market...

>Bing, my initial enter price is rm.54- rm .57 around 130 lot . earn 5 digit after short ride on early sept n sold. Same with other investor , do research n find this counter not bad. after that buy back again think can be long term . Before small crisis on mid oct, this counter started drop around 60 cents slowly. i admitted my mistake and sold all which wrong calculation on converted LA to it mother share by major shareholder cause NTA adjusted from 76 cents to 46 cents now. i believed some other investor are smarter which know this technical adjustment sold earlier than me. This give me a good lesson of this counter, during good time , major shareholder unbelieveable cause the price down and bad time ( mid NoV, last 2 week) acted like freefall. Maybe i put too much hope on this counter...Pls notice other counter such as inari, umwog, etc..what the major shareholder action when price slump? they come out to buy back their share( it give us confidence, major shareholder are standing with us , we die they also die..) . i don want critic so much, confidence , major shareholder to stabilise the price is key important to investor especially bad time. but i don see any action in this counter? same scenario it happen in world market, even market slump on 2007, dow jone drop until 6000 and recent euro crisis, all the FED reserve and ECB will support and back up the investor to stabilise the market recovery. my personal advice for this counter no long term, buy when u think is really cheap and sold when it jump high..all the good news with expected better quarter result had reflect it price and mostly investor also know and most important is not new which can stimulate the price up. To me , investor,s confidence level the emotion is the first concern for me to buy the share not it financial result or earning. Again, every investor had their own theory, probably i wrong.. good luck everybody..

if really go for private, do u think it will push up the price? pls notice the agm they got mentioned any major corporate exercise such as bonus share or private replacement( but started from fully converted LA six months later)..at least for this few months, no good news which pushed up the share price even with coming financial result is performing good( sinced they had mentioned a lot unbilled sale many times, even kid also know). i believe mathematics, poor management = the share undervalues always. that is fund manager didn't invest this counter. In malaysia, if the share is not politic , local & foreign fund manager, blue chip, goreng , i cant imagine how far this counter will last ? somemore the big major shareholder are not local based( always stay in hong kong ), to them L & G just kacang putih business because Chew family had huge business based in china n hong kong. Malaysia market just learning platform for their children( his daughter n son).. overall conclusion, end of the day, i believe Chew family will sold to other property company...Again The price of this counter is not cheap, most of the property counter price are cheaper than their NTA. After the conversion of LA, The price for now is 55cent which 20% expensive than their NTA. IF the usa side increased their interest rate with the reason showed usa economic is good sign, it will be slump of this counter back to below it NTA price ...

today volume CA 9728600 is less than 10k lot la.. his investment is 10,000 X RM0.08 =RM 800 la..

price is determined by investor mind not it fundamental. Again , the last week slump due to euro economic down. So the whole market rebound is investor Believe ECB will implement QE as USA do.of course, klse market rebound with europe and usa index. Again the key point is Euro economic, just come back from Europe last Two weeks, the Whole Europe give me deep impression is their economic is worst, why ? Tax too high which effected a lot to company earning and intention to extend their business. All this factor result Germany economic is down because europe market is important to Germany. All the data showing europe is inevitable to this economic down trend. i believed Europe market will drop slowly until middle of next year...hope will not effect the whole market....

first bad news, IBM price slump from 182 to 170 in premarket.

for long term investment, if u do enough homework about the company, you know the future of this company then you will with it grow together no matter this counter price up and down. Again , for investor who had sold this counter , honestly it none of your business, pls use your time in other things or counter. price change are meaningless to them. Moreover, for other investor don buy this counter, pls don so busybody to leave so many comment to confuse other investor. This is way of childish and waste your time to pretend expert. For some new greenhorn investor they maybe losing their whole year saving , what we can do is keep quiet...if the expert are so capable, he will be major shareholder collect the counter silently rather than just transaction few to hundred lot and give pointless view..

the volume is quite high on 8/10/2014,rm 2.8 to rm 3.05 for contra player force selling will be on 4.00pm today. after 4.30pm the price will be more stable....rm2.6 above will be possible if europe market not so bad later...

nikkei just drop 2.3% almost 350point within 30 minutes

history repeated again , is nothing special and weird, just people are always forgotten. Recent world market slump on year 97, 2007,2009 had same scenario. All Start from hot Money, in year 97 world market slump start from Thailand and sweep all over south East Asia . In Year 2007, mortgage Crisis cause world market slump again. In Year 2011, Euro Crisis Market slump repeat again. Above there had same point, HOT MONEY. year 97, klse from 1400 something drop to 350 something, 2007 dow jone from 12000 drop to almost 6000, 2011 greek index drop from 2850 to 300, 90% asset gone. From this cases at least all the winner from big investment bank such as morgan stanley, citibank, hedge fund(george solos), PIMCO, are using real money to bet and win our country and other world market money. This few years with FED USA government help by printing money to boost world economic market, i cant imagine the impact if
the USA FED wanna to increase rate which will cause hot money dissapear from developing country . Recent analysis also showed the country such as indonesia, thailand, malaysia , vietnam are high risk due to our foreign debt are near 50 to 60%..This is very simple theory, somebody lend u RM100, then u go to invest and earn RM10. You are very happy and borrow another RM100, and u make double profit. soon and later , you are same with other increase your modal become 5 time to 10 times to hope extra Return. but end of days you find out profit is not high as previous since more people are playing this game as well, suddenly your debtor wanna pull out their modal and before you make the profit you need to sell cheap price since you need to pay your debt. You will Find out you lose every thing to your borrower include your starting modal. Most Of Richer man know earn what they want , sell to realise profit and wait another Chance. Good Luck , Everybody.......................

history repeated again , is nothing special and weird, just people are always forgotten. Recent world market slump on year 97, 2007,2009 had same scenario. All Start from hot Money, in year 97 world market slump start from Thailand and sweep all over south East Asia . In Year 2007, mortgage Crisis cause world market slump again. In Year 2011, Euro Crisis Market slump repeat again. Above there had same point, HOT MONEY. year 97, klse from 1400 something drop to 350 something, 2007 dow jone from 12000 drop to almost 6000, 2011 greek index drop from 2850 to 300, 90% asset gone. From this cases at least all the winner from big investment bank such as morgan stanley, citibank, hedge fund(george solos), PIMCO, are using real money to bet and win our country and other world market money. This few years with FED USA government help by printing money to boost world economic market, i cant imagine the impact if
the USA FED wanna to increase rate which will cause hot money dissapear from developing country . Recent analysis also showed the country such as indonesia, thailand, malaysia , vietnam are high risk due to our foreign debt are near 50 to 60%..This is very simple theory, somebody lend u RM100, then u go to invest and earn RM10. You are very happy and borrow another RM100, and u make double profit. soon and later , you are same with other increase your modal become 5 time to 10 times to hope extra Return. but end of days you find out profit is not high as previous since more people are playing this game as well, suddenly your debtor wanna pull out their modal and before you make the profit you need to sell cheap price since you need to pay your debt. You will Find out you lose every thing to your borrower include your starting modal. Most Of Richer man know earn what they want , sell to realise profit and wait another Chance. Good Luck , Everybody.......................

history repeated again , is nothing special and weird, just people are always forgotten. Recent world market slump on year 97, 2007,2009 had same scenario. All Start from hot Money, in year 97 world market slump start from Thailand and sweep all over south East Asia . In Year 2007, mortgage Crisis cause world market slump again. In Year 2011, Euro Crisis Market slump repeat again. Above there had same point, HOT MONEY. year 97, klse from 1400 something drop to 350 something, 2007 dow jone from 12000 drop to almost 6000, 2011 greek index drop from 2850 to 300, 90% asset gone. From this cases at least all the winner from big investment bank such as morgan stanley, citibank, hedge fund(george solos), PIMCO, are using real money to bet and win our country and other world market money. This few years with FED USA government help by printing money to boost world economic market, i cant imagine the impact if
the USA FED wanna to increase rate which will cause hot money dissapear from developing country . Recent analysis also showed the country such as indonesia, thailand, malaysia , vietnam are high risk due to our foreign debt are near 50 to 60%..This is very simple theory, somebody lend u RM100, then u go to invest and earn RM10. You are very happy and borrow another RM100, and u make double profit. soon and later , you are same with other increase your modal become 5 time to 10 times to hope extra Return. but end of days you find out profit is not high as previous since more people are playing this game as well, suddenly your debtor wanna pull out their modal and before you make the profit you need to sell cheap price since you need to pay your debt. You will Find out you lose every thing to your borrower include your starting modal. Most Of Richer man know earn what they want , sell to realise profit and wait another Chance. Good Luck , Everybody.......................

history repeated again , is nothing special and weird, just people are always forgotten. Recent world market slump on year 97, 2007,2009 had same scenario. All Start from hot Money, in year 97 world market slump start from Thailand and sweep all over south East Asia . In Year 2007, mortgage Crisis cause world market slump again. In Year 2011, Euro Crisis Market slump repeat again. Above there had same point, HOT MONEY. year 97, klse from 1400 something drop to 350 something, 2007 dow jone from 12000 drop to almost 6000, 2011 greek index drop from 2850 to 300, 90% asset gone. From this cases at least all the winner from big investment bank such as morgan stanley, citibank, hedge fund(george solos), PIMCO, are using real money to bet and win our country and other world market money. This few years with FED USA government help by printing money to boost world economic market, i cant imagine the impact if
the USA FED wanna to increase rate which will cause hot money dissapear from developing country . Recent analysis also showed the country such as indonesia, thailand, malaysia , vietnam are high risk due to our foreign debt are near 50 to 60%..This is very simple theory, somebody lend u RM100, then u go to invest and earn RM10. You are very happy and borrow another RM100, and u make double profit. soon and later , you are same with other increase your modal become 5 time to 10 times to hope extra Return. but end of days you find out profit is not high as previous since more people are playing this game as well, suddenly your debtor wanna pull out their modal and before you make the profit you need to sell cheap price since you need to pay your debt. You will Find out you lose every thing to your borrower include your starting modal. Most Of Richer man know earn what they want , sell to realise profit and wait another Chance. Good Luck , Everybody.......................

wait the news of G20 meeting, all big brothers will be attend, Putin, obama, German and UK prime Minister will attend. Notice hints release either is good or bad news.

if you are so confident, can bought 2.63 to 2.64 anytime, hope can rebound to above rm3. wish u good luck

Recently the asia market n world market is fluctuate due to few reason. Since the euro crisis on 2009 , what the world market action take is printed more money n lower interest rate. That why most investor use this lowest interest rate tool to invest share n property . Again , people are easy forgotten n over optimisc. From 2009,klse had rebound from 850 to 1900 highest. This scenario happen too in other world market. Recent conflict between russia vs Ukraine had raise most people concern that Usa are impose economic punishment toward russia. All the big fund manager and federal usa are united together to collapse the economic of Russian by attacked their currency n share index. In meanwhile Usa also need enough bullet to fight russia because russia also big country with strong reserve national treasure. So what Usa do, simple.just increase the interest rate which will cause world investor money flow back to usa to help Usa to fight russia. Recent report by Imf spread news that third country asset are high risk and will be correction and advise investor avoild it. China and german economic also slowed down. Last time 2007 market slump is due to bubble of mortgage. This time market slump will be cause by usa over printing money. Never pick the falling knife. Again, this counter is foreigner fund favourite meaning impact of world crisis also high. Few hints to guide us good time to go in for this counter, Dax index german, Mce index and russia currency, crude oil price and most important Federal usa decision to delay the increase interest rate.Again again, notice news between Russia and USA CONFLICT, the roof of world market tumble are because these two big brother quarrel .