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2018-04-12 16:07 | Report Abuse

Huaan PE now is only 5.1 for 2018, very very cheap. At least PE8 or 10 should be achievable.

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2018-04-12 15:43 | Report Abuse

So one person CAN influence the stock market...

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2018-04-12 15:39 | Report Abuse

All this is to blame on middle east tension, once its over the market will pick up..

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2018-04-12 15:37 | Report Abuse

Huaan should close 0.45 for today or higher,,,however it look like small foreign investors are following EU market selling, more opportunity for us here to top up if fall below yesterday closing..

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2018-04-12 15:34 | Report Abuse

Yes i think so paloma. As long as people buy and keep, hold or top up more.

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2018-04-12 15:27 | Report Abuse

You all probably saw this patern, at 14.45 pm, all shares in top active start to fall at same time, i guess profit taking, like yesterday, same time same patern, hope this end soon, so that wks8732, bowman, js2120 achive their target. I hold long,,,,my tp is high not yet halfway..lol..

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2018-04-12 15:16 | Report Abuse

Js2120, thank for your support, i fully agree with your statment.

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2018-04-12 14:55 | Report Abuse

Just ignor him..

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2018-04-12 14:54 | Report Abuse

Every time he appear the share fall!

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2018-04-12 14:49 | Report Abuse

Your comment will be removed as well.

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2018-04-12 14:45 | Report Abuse

Stockmoneyklse or shall i call you Alfred9999!, use your glasses next time when you read my comment.

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2018-04-12 12:57 | Report Abuse

I am sure many of you here must have heard a very good news about Huaan and you are not willing to share it here. If you have good or bad news please share. We need to know all about Huaan as soon as the news uncovered. Remember to provide at least supporting evidence otherwise the news will not be taken seriously. This blog is all about sharing.

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2018-04-12 11:50 | Report Abuse

Hi Jun, according to my analysis, Huaan share fair value should be at least RM0.80, however the current market sentiment is pushing all stock shates down to unfair level. As long as Huaan remain profitable, his share should move up gradualy toward its fair value. RM0.55 could be possible within one or two weeks, hope as early as possible.

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2018-04-12 11:35 | Report Abuse

For coke and coking coal price just go to www.dce.com.cn

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2018-04-12 11:27 | Report Abuse

Had to update previous comment as the link of coking coal futur was not working, you need to copy the full link:
http://www.dce.com.cn/DCEENMO/Products0/Industrial20/Coking Coal/index.html

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2018-04-12 11:24 | Report Abuse

Keith, what is the price for coking coal futur at sane period? It should also fall in line with the coke price so that the profit margin remain about the same, i see coking coal futur price is also down to RMB 1,126, so that Huaan profit margin remain almost the same. Can you confirm this?

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2018-04-10 20:11 | Report Abuse

Target price RM0.80 for short term. RM1.0 long term.

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2018-04-10 17:05 | Report Abuse

Huaan share price now 0.425 still way below its fair value. Look like uptrend will continue for the coming couple of days as long that as the global market keep signaling positive sentiment. Cheers for all brave who kept holding Huaan during the last difficult market days,, good days to come ahead.

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2018-04-10 16:40 | Report Abuse

Huaan still resilient, good trading day today, will continue uptrend tomorrow.

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2018-04-10 15:31 | Report Abuse

Its a combination of good fundamental and positive market sentiment.

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2018-04-10 13:49 | Report Abuse

Also Mr Xi speach helped alot to calm down the tension as John1234 mentioned.

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2018-04-10 13:35 | Report Abuse

I guess insiders got hand on the results for Q1'18, this explain why the sudden junp in the share value, good to see that Huaan has kept a large numbers of supporters and smart investors who did not give up their truss in his business fundamental.

Coke future price still above RMB1,860. After winter period, coke price keen to move up, as many steel factory increase their production due to increasing local and regional demand from building construction and manufacturers.

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2018-04-08 15:10 | Report Abuse

Thanks for the invite, i already share all my analysis, no more analysis required, everybody can use it for himself and update the price accordingly, i do not think its too difficult to do.

I still think it is not relevant to share how mutch shares i have, what i know that huaan shares should be oversold by now. Beside that not everyone here need to know and not everyone will belive me if i told you how mutch i have, so lets keep it like this.

By tge way, I do not need to know how mutch shares other have, sold or bought, this does not intrest me, right!

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2018-04-08 13:41 | Report Abuse

If we concider Huaan profit per year of only 80 millions ringgit, Huaan PE is 4.5 now! Very cheap, no dought about that.

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2018-04-08 13:31 | Report Abuse

I remmember that you said to me long time ago that i have the highest, however i did not respond to you as i think it is realy not relevant here.

What is important is to follow Huaan current and future earning, so as long as he is making profit, i keep my investment unchanged.

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2018-04-08 13:11 | Report Abuse

Well Beginner, I am still holding my shares as I am a long term investors, all depend on your holding capacity. Current share price does not match the real value. Ask any investor to advise you on the TP for Huaan, it will come out at arround RM0.80 at this moment. I have make many comparision check with other stock who are also fall alot recently due to same reason related to market shake up, however Huaan still very cheap comparing to other stock with good fundamental.

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2018-04-08 12:55 | Report Abuse

Stockmoney, just let me know here what you need to know, its an open forum for all.

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2018-04-08 12:52 | Report Abuse

For those who are intrested in China coking coal and coke price you can refer to this link. As it look like that raw material of coking coal goes down and up relativaly to coke price, therefor i assume that the profit margin remain more or less the same so that the profit can be maintain as long as there is a steady coke production and sale demand.

Next week new price update, this link shows price up to April 4 2018.

Lets assume that these prices will remain for the whole next quarter Q2'18 ( not this quarter, as this quarter Q1'18 as i have showed befor my expectation to be in the range of 30 to 33 milions ringgit in net/ gross profit).

-Coking coal price is about RMB1,300
-Coke price about RMB1,889. So with ratio 1.25t coking coal to 1t coke taking into account the revenue from by product sale and reduction in price due to higher efficiency for unwashed coking coal),

Huaan margin is 1889-(1300x1.25) = RMB264 or MYR 163.

So if Huaan produce 215000 t of coke every quarter, this means QR2'18 will have to show a gross profit of at least 215000x163= 35 million ringgit.

This time i used a 1.25 ratio, if you use 1.40 ratio ( concidered too high) then the net/ gross profit would be less naturaly, hope somebody can advise me here about Huaan real ratio.

So it is important to watch both prices coking coal and coke in the coming months April, May and June. Also note that these are my own interpretation, as i advise you to do your own analysis.

http://www.dce.com.cn/DCEENMO/index/index.html

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2018-04-08 11:21 | Report Abuse

Alfred9999, stock are meant to be traded, you either support to sell or support to buy, up to you and up to anyone else to decide, i will keep promote huaan as long as i still have faith in the company and you should respect that, you are in favor of talking to people to sell, go ahead no one stoping you, just do not post fake news here, you can say what you want as long as it is not fake, everybody here know your plan, you have clarified befor, you want Huaan to fall so you can buy, right? So what? Everybody can give his own prediction here, use polite word and your comments will not be removed.

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2018-04-08 11:12 | Report Abuse

Yes, time to collect, uptrend is coming. Tariffs should not have more impact anymore on coke production, if share get cheaper, we will buy more..just keep track on coke price as long as it above 1,800, Huaan still profitable. Remmember do your own study.

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2018-04-06 19:25 | Report Abuse

Good plan js2120.

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2018-04-06 19:06 | Report Abuse

Did anyone here in this blog sold his share today? Other than tingkap, anyone else?

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2018-04-06 19:05 | Report Abuse

Truss your own study. You should not be here if you are willing to listning to those people trying every day to scare people to sell, hope non of you have followed them and fall in their trap.

Study the company good, follow its announcement, coke price and coal price as well as follow market sentiment and above all invest in long term as it is always the best strategy. Buy and keep then sell when your tp insite.

I bought Huaan last year in Nov, price below 0.22, i still hold and only will sell when my tp achieved above RM1.

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2018-04-06 17:08 | Report Abuse

Huaan share still way below its fair price, look to Dnex or Frontkn and compare it shares with Huaan youll see that Huaan share is undervalue as Huaan revenue and profit is about 3 times more.

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2018-04-06 16:49 | Report Abuse

Now 0.325, enjoy your weekend..

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2018-04-06 16:45 | Report Abuse

Total trade volume for today as usual arround 18 millions as predicted. Where is Axhol9999 and his warning scaring people here to sell?..i see the share even improved on the news of parliment desolvement...keep faith in Huaan.

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2018-04-06 16:30 | Report Abuse

Thank you i3investor for removing Alfred9999 comments. This should be a lessons to all to remain polite with each other regardless.

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2018-04-06 14:20 | Report Abuse

Looking to the volume allready done 8 millions, it doesn't suggest that foreign investors selling, we shall see the tital volume of today if exceed 18 milions.!

i think its opperators have 10 milions share in hand and playing with it everyday, this is why the total daily volume is not exceeding 18 or 20 millions...as buyer stay away and opperators have the upperhands, selling and buying their own stock to simulate fake trading and scaring people to sell with any possible excuse..

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2018-04-06 14:10 | Report Abuse

If any of Huaan major share holder start to dispose significant shares or Huaan report loses, than naturaly this may lead to re structuring our position. As long as this has not happen and in contrary allready 3 qr shows profit, and hopefully the next two qr will be the same, so business as usual. Remember, in this forum, no one can influance the share price no matter how your big or small, non of you whatever you say here can impact the share price. It is an illusion if you think that.

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2018-04-06 14:06 | Report Abuse

As long as Huaan fundamental are intact, i see no reason to sell. Non of Huaan major shareholders have sold any of his shares, why should we do so, you want to gamble day by day up to you. Many will hold and top up more.

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2018-04-06 12:20 | Report Abuse

Alfred9999, your comments is a direct threat to me and insult to my family, i copy this comment too and i have reported as abuser.. i dont care about your opinions as it does not worth anything..it only explain how durty mind you have.

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2018-04-06 11:23 | Report Abuse

So Alfred9999, are you suggesting that you are short, poor and no balls,, feel sad for you...i may forgive you in that case...lol..

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2018-04-06 10:53 | Report Abuse

I see my comments kris cross his...anyway, if he can push to 0.18, it gonna cost him his alot, he would never be able to collect all shares anyway, there will be millions of investors grabing it befor him, trus me they are waiting for it at anytime drop below 0.300. I assume Huaan will buy back the share in that case or issue free warrent. I am a long term investor, never bother with daily price.He can do what he want..

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2018-04-06 10:37 | Report Abuse

Qr4'17 shows 25 milion ringgit as net profite so how could that be desipointment? I think it was an excelent considering it was during winter period. Q1'18 will be again excelent in my opinion.

I still wonder what is your goal here Alfred9999?

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2018-04-06 10:30 | Report Abuse

Alfred9999, will not respond to you anymore. Harlem have revised his analysis in my favor for Q1'18. You go and read again, use your glases this time.

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2018-04-06 10:26 | Report Abuse

Haha,, Alfred9999 is talking to himself, he is "khongbiet" same person, you can see both use ' n' letter instead of 'and'.... haha Alfred9999 you cannot foul me, you are afterall who posted fake news about Huaan not making money without any proof and you have deleted your comments, but i still have a snapshot of it. Once qr results are out somewere in May, i will use it against you if you continue spreading fals and fake news here. Be onest from now on.

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2018-04-06 10:16 | Report Abuse

I wonder why Alfred9999 talking so negative, what is his goal here? He have no right to talk on my behalf, everybody is welcome to read my comments and make his own judgment. I never use any words suggesting "pump" only Alfred9999 is using it. We have in this blogg very smart people, like Harlem, keith, john1234, b4b4, fy25, and many other. Expect you Alfred9999.

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2018-04-06 10:05 | Report Abuse

I see, SC contacted you? Lol..

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2018-04-06 09:46 | Report Abuse

Alfred9999, can you proof that my analysis are wrong? People are free to do what they think is right, on other hand you are the one who trying to scare them without any background. I'll be glad to explain to SC, my door is open to all critic like you.