i see this wave as 2nd wave of another new down wave. and if follow the trend, if i did it right like 2bits taikor, the bounce could had been done

duit, ur 2nd message is confusing..r u bullish or bearish?

hmm, looks like a distribution...becareful guys..

ok, thx.

Hi, mind to share why?

Posted by FBMKLCI2015 > Aug 2, 2018 04:55 PM | Report Abuse

US bloodbath tonight.goodluck

daily yes but weekly still in red. i made a wrong bet on tencent on monday.

ayam, take as temporary bottom 1st...

turn to month/week chart, then u will understand what i am saying..

ayam, need to hold on to 27580 from now on. else no story for call...if hold and can surge pass 28000, then can expect to see 28200, 28700 then 29000


this looks semakin like a major bear med/long term...big one and 26500 is not the final dest, it's just stopping at sungai buloh R&R to eat Chicken satay @ Sate Kajang before continue it's journey to singapore for pepper Crab. now could be at penang eating char koay tiao.

ayam, the cash by etnet and cash by investing got a discrepancy of ~50 pts. etnet is higher. something wrong but i dont think is the index but the platform instead

Topaz, i dont have full list. u can google for it. the information are easily obtainable.

rich, yes the increase but the news where out yesterday and the market had reacted to it by dropping 400-500 pts (if u factored in apple positive news, the real drop could had been 500-600 pts)

i am more worry when next GDP and PMIs show sign of deterioration that is when the dinosaur aged bear will attack..just hope the earnings could give callers to escape.

rate hike and trump to increase the tariff rate are both not new things. could market been over reacted? component stocks dropped irregardless of sector...which..should be an opportunity. also, some component stocks dropped due non-trade war reason and that those reason/causes had been rectified/reflected mostly.

let see if this is the trick by MM to max their profit in earning season. today low has reach a pivot point, if dont bounce up....do expect another 2000 drop in coming weeks

pretty, been busy. no big huat as the trend is unclear to me, i chicken. only enter put when it break 400 just now. ayam, u and duit are the brave hearts!!

200-300 is where bull built their base since last month. but bear is more aggressive than bull still. 700 is bear defense line and today they show their aggressiveness.

cbbc is tricky, still a lot of meat 200 away (28000), then more meat 400 pts down further (27600). all this can be achieved with 1 trade war news or another FAANG drop.

currently can hope for short term rebounce. dun forget, is earning session.

2bits abang, i read ur previous chart again (not the recent one), i like the labeling. make the fibo trend look so obvious.

thx bang.

i am looking at 30m. if the index move up from here this week could end higher. observation invalid if the recent low is taken down. i believe they will not kill 200 as yet, not so soon.

twobits Jul 31, 2018 08:35 PM | Report Abuse

28200 possible for now

https://invst.ly/84x3z

Bon: will cancel off my C @ 29940 / 31290 once it break my B

http://warrants-hk.credit-suisse.com/summary_cbbc_delta_c.cgi

Alex, when a trade is wrong, u HAVE to hit restart. recognize the lost and learn the mistake.

price decay over time, let say if u bought at 50sen last week, this week it would worth only 40sen even the index recover to ur entry point

Recognize the lost then improve ur judgement method and ride the current trend instead of "HOPE" for it to recover. GL

current trend is not clear and can be either side fast and furious. becareful.

Posted by Alex Ng > Jul 30, 2018 04:40 PM | Report Abuse

After bought only realize you guys play intraday... i made mistake to hold it :(
now too severe to cut

lol, i read till quite late on that chart and had few discussion with capt. i decided to take on the risk when nasdaq seem stable. by the way, mind to share the 7%? it's interesting...BB, price structure? or any other factor?

looking at the momentum and some other factors, i think still got some space for bull but not much meat d. risk and reward not that attractive any more for today.

welcome ayam, luckily bo bring u to holland ;)

am out. think closing today would be 700 or 900. GL

Newbies don’t refer to this pls. Can bring u to holland.

Thx rich. Sorry bang, forgotten the chart
https://invst.ly/839ue
I prefer blue wave as iii&v are too short to make sense.

Bang 2bits,

thank you for your feedback. think the bounce not yet done, may have one more leg to complete the 5th wave but the daily candle very de not nice...

Posted by twobits > Jul 25, 2018 05:42 PM | Report Abuse

Your count is good... now i only label after dust is settled.

What abt just focus on the current bounce... forget your b (C) and c (C) for now.

U playing hsi which is very active and alive...not cipalak dead fish ctr.


Try to estimate how high can current trend go.

Posted by Bon > Jul 25, 2018 04:54 PM | Report Abuse

2bits, mind to share ur count on HSIF?

mine like this
https://invst.ly/82qjc

by the way, i think the plunge could have done for today

Han, i am here. pls share. most importantly, teach me how to practice it. thx.

2bits, mind to share ur count on HSIF?

mine like this
https://invst.ly/82qjc

Don, i think likely yes, will be around 28900 unless then bear/bull run.

Han, i agree with ur view but i think the index will start august in green then only fierce bear charge in. for now, i think 29200.

pretty, last trading day of jul future contract, should be 30-Jul. the derivatives market follow the last trading days, this means if they want to max their profit, they will need to hold the future price till last trading day.

remember i shared that 800-900 is the heaviest zone? this is why the price stuck here. no significant bear has left the market in this current uptrend, thus i think it's because the bear is escaping for the bull to take control again...or can be vice versa.

hi pretty, i think last trading day of future is more important then rollover..pls correct me if i am wrong.

by the way, HH, i mean this current short term bull. i am still bearish long term.

Hi HH,

view not changed. bull likely to continue but beware of sell on news.the chinese market already move before they announced the stimulus.

Stock: [HSI-HQ]:

Jul 20, 2018 05:08 PM | Report Abuse

pretty, correction to my earlier message (oversold = overbought...)
btw, my 650 & 800-900 is 28650 and 28800-900..

have a good weekend!

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Posted by Bon > Jul 20, 2018 04:49 PM | Report Abuse X

han, thank you for your comment, i find myself next topic to study.
"MM/market mispricings or manipulations"

pretty, my notes for today and for ur reference:

today bull seems trying very hard to defend the 200-300 defense line. per yesterday, bear force still adding though slowed down a bit. need to check the data for today movement to tell if today push is a "genuine" support or not.

the 200-300 line becomes more important as apart from the derivatives market data show strong intention there, can see huge fund flow into the market today and similar amount happened in 12th (the 2 peaks of the month). both near @200-300.

if 200-300 can hold and stay, then 650 then 800-900 by end july. august then only may see 29200. after that could be a correction or drop trend resume.

only draw back for call is the hourly overbought but daily candle looks nice....hope the retracement happen in night time and bull again in the day time.

GL

personal offense and non-HSI discussion are not welcomed. thx for helping to keep the peace for this thread.

pretty, correction to my earlier message (oversold = overbought...)
btw, my 650 & 800-900 is 28650 and 28800-900..

have a good weekend!

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Posted by Bon > Jul 20, 2018 04:49 PM | Report Abuse X

han, thank you for your comment, i find myself next topic to study.
"MM/market mispricings or manipulations"

pretty, my notes for today and for ur reference:

today bull seems trying very hard to defend the 200-300 defense line. per yesterday, bear force still adding though slowed down a bit. need to check the data for today movement to tell if today push is a "genuine" support or not.

the 200-300 line becomes more important as apart from the derivatives market data show strong intention there, can see huge fund flow into the market today and similar amount happened in 12th (the 2 peaks of the month). both near @200-300.

if 200-300 can hold and stay, then 650 then 800-900 by end july. august then only may see 29200. after that could be a correction or drop trend resume.

only draw back for call is the hourly overbought but daily candle looks nice....hope the retracement happen in night time and bull again in the day time.

GL

lion,

can also see as 5th wave is done because 3 is tooooo long..cannot deny the nice daily candle for now.
https://invst.ly/81abx


Posted by lionkings > Jul 20, 2018 04:30 PM | Report Abuse

There is still one more downleg to complete its course.Tonite is v critical to confirm my entry into H on Monday.BAYOR

sorry guys, i want to keep my email address private and prefer to keep my discussion to my own group for some reasons. one of the reason we dont make public is because we share ideas and thought that not proven/high risk and we dont want ppl to blindly follow and incur huge loss. i personally dont have the capacity to help them to gain back nor update them timely on changes that would make previous idea/thought discussed invalid.

hope u understand

what, u didnt keep my email??? ok, just sent u a mail.

Posted by 饿灵易发 @2018 > Jul 20, 2018 02:09 PM | Report Abuse

email Bon...

ok duit, looking forward to it.

Posted by 饿灵易发 @2018 > Jul 20, 2018 01:54 PM | Report Abuse

Bon.

will tell U something from this two days observation. Good for you and me in future

by the way, i think one more down then consolidate then monthend push then august bull...i think!!

ngwt, this is why i dont share my tp publicly often. i dont mind to share with some of u who have trading plan, but those without trading plan that are holding me back.

HSIF is dynamic, signal can change anytime.. follower needs to understand that and have own plan.

Posted by ngwt > Jul 20, 2018 10:15 AM | Report Abuse

@Duit. You shld inform your supporter early while you sell your call. Inform them at 10:08am is a bit too late.

done for the day. guys, no signal for cal yet and space to go down. becareful with call. GL

ayam... u sure bang each other make paper? not life *blush* *blush*

thanks duit and i hope u have not left yet. the 2 heavy bears due on Nov'18 and Jan'19. no hurry for them to kill those contract unless they have not met their monthly target (which i didnt track..) and do desperate to do so.

duit, mind if i ask y u r so keen on call? technical bounce? or because A50 is doing good? i see no clue to support call. not that i am bias, but what i see are more bear factor.

chart wise bear signal everywhere...
data wise, favor bear too...
news - bear!! a time boom in HSIF (sunny optical)
external factor (a50, ssec, dax, dow, nasdaq, currency)...bear...

unless, really something major and BIG that not in the market yet and will reverse the entire trend...please enlighten me.

pretty, the signal i observed for escape is invalid. GL.

pretty, there could be chance to "escape" but dont hope for 100%. GL.

yea boost

Jeen, i like ur idea, but i think may try 28000 again. HSIF had broke out of the symmetric triangle and now looks like turning into a descending triangle. if the base can hold, chance for call is good, if not bear could be very fearsome..

duit, pretty,based on other data and observation, bear force is becoming bigger..take 28300 as critical line to break for call. good luck

jun, why call? any good news? or good sentiment?

congrat to ayam and those who win. have a good rest today.