hi Win1, 1.78 after next Chinese new year 2016 is possible. you can buy in this price now, and accumulate, it might go down further, but pretty close to bottom already. but don't expect a big lead.

annmix, you can buy in around 43cent, this price look pretty good and reasonable, this depend on how long do you wanna keep and what is your target price for it. Usually, oil counters, including this KNM, it won't be a uptrend, but a technical rebound only. Therefore, if you think you can make 10-15% within short period, it will be good to buy in and out. But if expecting like a long up lead, like last time from 40 cent to RM1.1, it got to wait for a while, until end of this year or early next year. why not, focus mainly on Airasia, for a while, at least half year, and then come back this counter.

ckwan, if you are holding this stock now, and if you have more fund then pump in now, I suggest you to come in quick, from this trend, this is 99% going up and continue going.

FKLI13, for your information, in last two months I guess, Wellington has acquired 24,000,000 share from Tony internally. Guess what? You should know that, this are all insider game. They have already planned to raise this counter. this is how the system runs.

FKLI13, Yes, I guess you know how to invest. I in fact sold half of my stock by 9.30am yesterday, but again I have again acquired around 10.30am, as from the charts and volumes, I knew big players went in strong. I am a trader, and investors, depend on what companies I acquire, for investment, I suggest PBB, Genting, Bat, Nestle those with attractive dividends, hold easily 3-5-10 years, u don't wont about economy crisis. But for your information, acquiring for Airasia is already a trading stock, this stock will only last for 1-2 year for now and will definitely drop, you need to know the hehavior of this players only you can follow, this is them to manipulate the game, not us. But once we know what they do, we will win by following them. These players are not long term investors definitely. Hope it helps you.

As what I have mentioned, confirmed Big player Wellington has acquired 3,406,100 share and EPF acquired 1,000,000 share yesterday. Predict that, they will continue to acquire more to push this counter up. This is confirmed that this counter will not be down for long. Easily, in very short period this counter will be stable and raising soon.

well, there must be someone who bought in more expensive and all stuck and that's different scenario then. But, I am only sharing my situation.

Goodcompanies, just to share with you how we can be more possible to make money for each investment. As mentioned, I have sold half of my Airaisia, we take this as a scenario, my average price was Rm2.4 something and I was planning to keep minmum 6months at least to get 50-80% but due to this incident I decided to sell half for reasons:

1. I already make around 10% profit from this counter, and sold average at RM2.69. I feel confortable of selling it and accept the fact that I make a min of 10% for half of my stock.
2. Why I don't sell all, because I believe this counter will still raise, and it not quite possible to drop below my average price which is RM2.4 something. I feel confortable of holding half of it.
3. I believe it will be temporarily going down and up for a short time. And I am more willing to again monitor and take control of my half leverage. Therefore, I am reentering this game, I enjoy it manipulating my money again.
4. We understand who is behind this counter, big player is not disposing it, but rather acquiring more share. Therefore, you will know this big player won't make it drop too much. They are the one that lose more than total money of us. Therefore, why get mad while someone make more lose?
5. I don't see so far any other counter has another strong signal of raising up. Therefore, I will continue to stick to Airasia with my majority leverage.
6. Being knowledgeable for how the system runs and we fell not panic, but just accept the fact. Rather than all stuck in and cry.

That's is it.

goodcompanies, in fact, I learn from all possible mistakes and what ppl getting through, panic, over confidence, looking for quick short term money, impatience etc.. all kind. but once u really know how to reach the charts, knowing how the system works, and cycle of the economies, u will be just relax and sit back enjoy the show. Trust me, Airsia will not go down too much further, and soon this will raise again and manipulated counter like Airasia, remember how are managing the show, this is our big player wellington, as we know he is the one that can't afford to lose, not us.

annmix, don't worry about language. We only worry about how to make money.

That's why I don't urgue with ppl like u.

I believe you are not aware how capable I am either. Trust me.

goodvibes22, you have no idea how much I earn.

goodvobes22,. I guess u have purchased in at higher price, therefore u are either stuck in or mad at ppl around. I can understand it. rDon't get emotional around. This counter definitely will raise very soon. U can buy in now or later.
Annmix, u are right, we are sharing opinion, we never boast, making 10% is very small, in fact, I was expecting 50-80%, but due to this incident, all need to be restructured.

Annmix, I just bought in AAX a portion. From selling Airasia, I make around 10% of what I sold. But, I am structuring for buying in both for second round, at the same time with some potential good stock like CIMB and KNM.

goodcompanies, good that you made profit. 15% is good. I have sold half of it as well at average of rm2.69. But, I can see the trend now, it wont drop rapidly. Again, the report of 4q wont affect much from this incident. Big player I guess will be more panic than any one of us. wellington hold 14-15% od AA. They will try to push it up and wont let it drop below Rm2.7 too much. u can start buying in again.

panice selling is common when such horrible airplane crash happen. However, we can see there're strong support buying afterward, this is confirmed that the big player is acquiring more share during this time. Therefore, this is just a short term falling. Once you see this established, this share is going up again. I can see this. Those who has sold, can later on buy in again. This is almost confirmed.

I guess EPF now is regretting and acquiring more Airasia share these few days. Let's see if EPF will continue to buy more, and it will help the counter boosted.

From the stock market, There is always a period of time of making money for each stock, if this is not a bankrupt hopeless counter. Regardless of all the business plans, future expansion etc, when the charts show the first uptrend point, usually, people will be curious and afraid, many of them will drop out by making around 5-10%. when the next wave created and there is time for experienced investors to come in this point safe and enjoy the show, they will still make money, while most of the small investors are still wondering and afraid to join the crew. When the third and forth wave show, these people will be very excited and coming in fast and huge volume. Usually, they have very limited margin for profit already. However, they will still be happy. But, this is the time, you will see the charts show constant flat again... and it will take a while. If you notice this, Usually, those big players are disposing their shares constantly, and it will also take a while, usually months. This is the time, most of the investors at last batch, continue to acquire more shares from those disposing by big players. Afterward, the counter collapses, and it will go down very fast, and those last investors are stuck in it. And this situation happens almost every time for manipulated counter, like Airasia now. Believe or not, Airasia, will continue to go high, estimated 8-12months until climax started by Nov end 2014. Therefore, you will see big player like wellington has been acquiring airasia since one and half year. Usually, big investor company like this will guarantee their clients with at least 12%-18% profit return. therefore, by conservative estimation, wellington will need to make at least 30-40% per year to cover the client's profit margin, and with company's cost like the brokers commissions, expenses, operation cost etc. Let's say, wellington wish to push this counter to climax by 6 months, and to make their plan succeeded in two years, they will need to make profit from Airasia at least 70%-80%, which make it each year profit of 40%. From my safe estimation, this counter will achieve at least RM4.3-Rm4.5 in 6-12months time. This is how it works. Believe or not.

a technical rebound can make a quick money, only if you have purchased yesterday, if you are coming in today, or right now. Be prepared, as oil companies will drop anytime. This is just logical, Airasia, is slowly moving. But, you don't have like heart beat attack. We enjoy it moving slowly, this is uptrend anyway.

when it become flat, and stay between 7% above and below, that is the time to come in safe.

annmix, your got the point. This is not the time to buy but the time to sell at rebound period. This rebound will stay 1-3 days max. Later on will drop again.

Guys, this is what it is. I am right about Airasia and the next wave is being built now. I guess Airasia is on the right trend. get in before too late.

You can see few days ago, Wellington is developing the charts when it reaches almost below Rm2.7, but W wouldn't let it happen, therefore, they acquire the share and it went uptrend, and further raised on Friday. Therefore, the first wave is completed. When it happened, next whole week will be the next wave. You will see and understand how it is developed and how big player is manipulating the game.

guys, from the trends, Index will drop mostly on Monday, However, if Airasia raises further. The charts uptrend then establish. Klciklse, you are very wrong about Airasia, you can see EPF is disposing share constantly. However, do you see Willington sells any so far? and the charts still on the uptrend, therefore, most of the share are from small investors. The time is started, you better don't miss it, this is the first wave only.

Guys, skpetro is one best choice to choose among oil and gas companies. This is the reason Why EPF is getting in now. However, from the charts and timeframe, this is still a long way to wait, at least for 3-6months. This is claimed from Nasa research said, March-April 2015 or Sept-Oct 2015, the actual crisis impact will show greatly, this call 'blood months'. Therefore, oil and gas will be a while to recover. From my opinion, Airasia will be a great one to get in, not too late now, but don't expect it will forever raise, within 3-6months, Airasia will bring great show to you. Only after that, you guys can come back for Skpetro, KNM, Armada, UMWos, these are greatest options.

from the trend and charts, it does look like going further down. But, 6 down waves is very rare to see, and this is absolutely great opportunity, I am now almost ready to go in.

angelol, are you now into Airasia?

joeylee, I hope that you have listened to my advice to dispose your Pmetal hopefully

joeylee, don't be silly, you are bringing ppl to crocodile's mouths. KNM is much better opportunity.

angelol, In fact, I am a big fan of KNM, and I am going to go in KNM soon, that's why I monitor closely, But since my debating friend joeylee is here promoting Pmetal, I have no choice to take a look of the charts, and for only one second, I know Pmetal is really a hopeless counter, it could have been chance beginning of this year, but now... this is just the tailer chaser..

this is what I call greedy. joeylee, don't be naïve, no one can continually get 25% in a month, if u really did in last years, it was only u were luck once.

Joeylee, u are looking at 25% within a month?? I don't see any chance for Pmetal to raise 25% within a month so far.

Joeylee, if you was promoting Pmetal before April this year, I will respect you more.

SKpetro, Dialog, Muhibah, KNM any one of it is better than Pmetal. THis is true.

and Pmetal is downside for a week already...

joeylee, obviously, u are a one day trader

I won't say Wellington is a mistake maker, if they have averaged the share around RM2.4 or below. They already make 15% profit so far. If this is their target, why not? but Pmetal has raised to climax and around 250%, and yet, you are still saying this is not the climax? and chasing the tail, now who is the greedy buster here?

Joeylee, obviously you are just one arrogant tail chasing piece. I wonder if you have purchased any Pmetal before it raised in April, or just the same attitude like how u finger pointing around. If not, you are just a story teller, and nothing to speak loud.

Fir airaisa, the show has not even fully started. this will be just like Pmetal during April. how does that sound?

From KNM reading, this is much better choice to hold KNM than Pmetal. KNM now has showed 5 dropping waves since Sept, and the previous wave was at least 25% dropping than current point, if this is possible, investors can now monitor and buying in portion by portion, not all in, but 25% each time. Of course, but major lead, It will take months at least. For Pmetal, it was completely flat before 2014, and only raised 250% since this april. Now split, the game is over for now, this is not going to be active for long time.

sorry, joeylee, to be corrected, u did half day analysis only.

if you only looking at one day chart, obviously, this is not analysis, let's look at minimum of three months.

joeylee, we can discuss over and over, but the result and fact will show in 3 months. afterward, you will see what you said is wrong. Pmetal is not drop and is slip, but the result but be after one year.

Good companies, I totaly agree with you. In fact, I own both. Just the ratio will be 8:2 now and switch the ratio afterward.

For Airasia, Big player yes. But do you know that EPF has been disposing the share almost everyday, and Willington is not acquiring any so far. But, Airasia's price is going up and are from small investors. Believe me, If you were the big player, you won't dump all share in one day, this will take few weeks and months to dispose. if you were a smart investor, u could monitor it every day and definitely you will notice when Willington is disposing. But defintaly not now. we are talkin about 3-6months short term with maximum profit margin. Pmetal, way to wait.

Joeylee, I believe you get your points here about the Pmetal and Airasia. I agree with some of your points. But you should know in the stock market, there is for few type of investment strategies and how long do you hold the share. For KNM, This is around 6-8months raised to 1.1 and start dropping to now 0.46, but do you see the business going down? no, but on the other hand, all analysis said KNM get more profit and projects. Pmetal the same, this is good this is going well, but this is about ppl with investment trends. I believe you don't get what I meant. Pmetal will be flat or not going up for a while, and this stock has reached the climax and this time going down.

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/logictradinganalysis/65561.jsp take a look of this proven record for some airline in other region this is just in 3 months

Hi Joeylee, Pmetal is a history, buying it is as good as buying any of the oil companies. every share has its glory time, but now obviously this is time for those companies which are benefited from dropping oil prices. This is periodical and in stock market this is the fundamental ideals and life cycles. Pmetal time will be back, but not now, just like all oil companies. If anyone of you here will be brave and buy airasia and keep as short as 3months to 6 months, You will be thankful for what I have suggested.

Gabriel if you know how to read the chart, you won't be commenting this.