youngeinvestor92, thanks for your advice...
the reason why i am angry is that:

this low-life idixt sxckperformer accused me of modifying my average price of evergreen.. which is a serious false accusation.. this is an insult and slander to me...

that is why i challenged him to swear like i did...

why not, if he is 100% sure i edited my average price, and if he is 100% i am having paper loss now?

wtf.. he is now running away from my challenge.. pretending that he did not see it...
continue hiding his balls and act like a sissy...

really pathetic idixt... now still dare to talk cxck without even answering to my challenge yet...

can you all trust his words?

Again, I know fundamental-wise, Hevea has no problem...

what I said is, evergreen has better growth in future that will surprise investors, that is why i am in...
and i believe i will have higher chance to make more profit buying evergreen...

that is it...but u see how this low life idixt came up with all sort of nonsense....

no big deal for court case...

read this:

“In terms of financial performance, the group has been recording steady growth with good earnings, and does not show any signs of slowing down.

“The group has a solid track record and the family feud is unlikely to shake investors’ confidence in the sound management of the company,” a source says.

HSL, through its joint venture with Dhaya Maju Infrastructure (Asia) Sdn Bhd, procured Pan Borneo Highway packages of Bintangor junction to Julau junction and Sibu Airport to Sungau Kua bridge, measuring 75.97km and valued at RM1.71bil.

As of June 30 this year, the group has a total project value of RM2.6bil, which also happens to be its all-time high.

HSL added 13 new projects worth an estimated RM1.85bil in the first half of 2016.

This includes three infrastructure contracts in Samalaju, a growth node town of Sarawak Corridor of Renewable Energy (Score).

haha.. rockycleft continues his cxck-talking... speak some facts pls.. that is what we all do here..

see... farker sxckperformer is confirmed an idiot again...
i have told him many times that Evergreen is not categorized as "furniture stock" yet (at least not for now) as their current RTA portion is about 5% only.

And many other posts (including the one by Ricky Yeo) compare among "furniture stocks"...

and I have explained that this sxckperformer is not giving fair comparison to compare Evergreen with other "furniture stocks"...

until today he has not answered my questions... see? no-balls... run away from my questions..

i have answered all his stupid and manipulated questions, but he has not even answered my one question:

is evergreen a furniture stock at current stage? is it fair to compare its capex intensive business with "pure/mainly" furniture makers which are less capex intensive?

let me make one last blow to him on his idixtic and biased comments (for his personal agenda i guess, if not why spend so much time here... quite obvious, he missed the boat and is trying to pull down the share price - but who is he? does he have such influence.. haha.. )..


1) Debt of Evergreen (which is manageable and reasonable for the industry it is involved in) - he keeps saying that Hevea has zero debt but Evergreen has debt.. I have told him that Hevea is more like a furniture company as its 60% sales are from RTA (ready to assemble furniture) which are less capex intensive. Where as currently Evergreen manufactures 80% of raw MDF so it is more capex intensive in terms of the machineries and maintenance. They are not in the exact industries so you just can't compare directly.. he has not even answered my question on this one.. Yes, evergreen will target to build more RTA (current 5% of total revenue), but their main focus is still MDF at current stage. So, until one day when Evergreen has its RTA sales reach 50-60% of total revenue, then only it is fair to directly compare with Hevea on the debt/net cash...

2) Debt of Evergreen - again, let's discuss if the debt is bad or actually good for evergreen. We know that many business raise loans to expand. We have to examine whether their profit margin is higher than the interest they need to pay for the loan. Last year (2015 full year), evergreen net profit margin is 9.1%. This year (up to 9 months), due to forex loss, the net profit margin dropped to 7.3%. But this is still higher than the bank interest rate that they are paying for... example, if you earn RM10 additional but you pay RM5 for interest, u still get additional (net RM5) for the expansion... so why not to expand if you have net profit from there?

3) Dividend - he is again very biased and misleading here.. 2013-14 were bad years for Evergreen, we all know and admit that. This was due to the intense competition of MDF makers within ASEAN (as 2006-08 were good years and many new MDF makers ventured into this business can caused over-supply) However, as mentioned by Evergreen management, many small and incompetitive MDF players have been washed out (go bankrupt) during the bad years of 2012-2014 due to losses.. but evergreen as the biggest MDF player in ASEAN with strong footing and experience has weathered thru the storm and grow bigger now.. in fact, they ate up the market shares of those closed-shop small factories,.. so from 2013-14, we cannot expect evergreen to pay dividends during tough years.. why I said he is biased? When Hevea was in deep financial woes during 2009-2010, why did sxckperformer not question: why Hevea did not pay out dividend during tat time? see? he is manipulating his words...

4) Dividend - in latest AGM, Evergreen management has approved to give out at least 40% of net profit to shareholders... so, with the expansion plan almost done (will require less capex, and have more cash)... we can expect more dividend to come.. we invest in the future of Evergreem.. but this joker keeps talking about the past.. and he totally kept quiet about Hevea's past on the bad years.. and when raider said Hevea almost went bankrupt.. what did this sxckperformer say? Trump went bankrupt 3 times but now is a US president.. haha.. funny right? we know it is not end of day for bankruptcy, but we dislike his biased view on evergreen.. Hevea's past was bad, but it is ok.. Evergreen's past was bad, but it is not OK.. see it?

sxckperformer.. see.. i wasted so much time to explain to some idixt like u.. quickly thank me la.. coz i "put money in ur pocket" d...

haha farker sxckperformer is selling his hevea and homeritz so hard, by manipulating his statements on evergreen...

and more importantly.... I demand him to apologize to me for insulting me of modifying my average price...

but i am quite sure loser and low-life farker like him will never apologize to anyone even though he already realize his mistake...

i have to assume that low-life idixt like him is living alone in his own world...

Evergreen5101, previously you said he sure can't live in harmony with his wife bcoz he just wants to win (despite that fact that he is already wrong)...

Let me tell you, i doubt idixt like him will have a wife, or even a girl-friend..

u think his "always want to win, thick-face, run away from questions, pretend did not see my challenge" attitude will attract any girl? haha.... i really doubt...

sometimes i really pity him a lot....

haha... u guys realize or not..

sxckperformer keeps talking about debt and dividend of evergreen...
in fact, i explained that above.. but he just ignored my explanation...
and still live in his own farking world and talk cxck...

ppl here are wise ok?
they can see that this idixt is running away from my question...

typical LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and pls do the same if you dare:

1) show us your Hevea profit/loss in your portfolio
2) swear (like what I did) that you did not modify your average price

I don't think this sissy will ever do this...

Reasons:
1) He is very likely (i said very likely, not like some idixt said like he is 100% sure) stuck at high entry price for Hevea
2) He has no-balls lorrrrrrrrrr...................

other ppl here can see that you are such a loser...

until now, sxckperformer still has no balls to take up my challenge...
that means what???

1) he has no balls
2) he does not admit his wrong-doing in accusing me
3) he is a typical loser (who always lose) but want to win so badly by all means
4) he has no face to apologize to me for accusing me
5) maybe he cut off his penxs already to train some legendary Kungfu like "Kuai Fa Bou Dim".. haha

dun farking talk cxck anymore if you dare not take up my challenge...

you think you can simply accuse ppl just like that, fark you!!!!!!!!!

ANSWER to me, sissy, no-balls idixt....

you are best at barking and then running away with your doggie tail snapped between your legs...

AND ONE MORE THING....

until now, he still dares not take up my challenge...

sissy farker retarded sxckperformer..
if you dare to accuse me of modifying my portfolio, where are your balls (oppps, i forgot you cut them off already) to take up challenge?


1) If I modified my average price for Evergreen and the % profit for Evergreen and other shares (not shown), I will die horribly today...

2) If I did not modify my average price for Evergreen and the % profit for Evergreen and other shares (not shown), you will die horribly today...

God will know and judge...

if u have balls, take up this challenge...

else get lost and dun ever talk cxck again...

i have answered all his stupid and manipulated questions, but he has not even answered my one question:

is evergreen a furniture stock at current stage? is it fair to compare its capex intensive business with "pure/mainly" furniture makers which are less capex intensive?

let me cut and paste my statements and question to him again:

let me make one last blow to him on his idixtic and biased comments (for his personal agenda i guess, if not why spend so much time here... quite obvious, he missed the boat and is trying to pull down the share price - but who is he? does he have such influence.. haha.. )..


1) Debt of Evergreen (which is manageable and reasonable for the industry it is involved in) - he keeps saying that Hevea has zero debt but Evergreen has debt.. I have told him that Hevea is more like a furniture company as its 60% sales are from RTA (ready to assemble furniture) which are less capex intensive. Where as currently Evergreen manufactures 80% of raw MDF so it is more capex intensive in terms of the machineries and maintenance. They are not in the exact industries so you just can't compare directly.. he has not even answered my question on this one.. Yes, evergreen will target to build more RTA (current 5% of total revenue), but their main focus is still MDF at current stage. So, until one day when Evergreen has its RTA sales reach 50-60% of total revenue, then only it is fair to directly compare with Hevea on the debt/net cash...

2) Debt of Evergreen - again, let's discuss if the debt is bad or actually good for evergreen. We know that many business raise loans to expand. We have to examine whether their profit margin is higher than the interest they need to pay for the loan. Last year (2015 full year), evergreen net profit margin is 9.1%. This year (up to 9 months), due to forex loss, the net profit margin dropped to 7.3%. But this is still higher than the bank interest rate that they are paying for... example, if you earn RM10 additional but you pay RM5 for interest, u still get additional (net RM5) for the expansion... so why not to expand if you have net profit from there?

3) Dividend - he is again very biased and misleading here.. 2013-14 were bad years for Evergreen, we all know and admit that. This was due to the intense competition of MDF makers within ASEAN (as 2006-08 were good years and many new MDF makers ventured into this business can caused over-supply) However, as mentioned by Evergreen management, many small and incompetitive MDF players have been washed out (go bankrupt) during the bad years of 2012-2014 due to losses.. but evergreen as the biggest MDF player in ASEAN with strong footing and experience has weathered thru the storm and grow bigger now.. in fact, they ate up the market shares of those closed-shop small factories,.. so from 2013-14, we cannot expect evergreen to pay dividends during tough years.. why I said he is biased? When Hevea was in deep financial woes during 2009-2010, why did sxckperformer not question: why Hevea did not pay out dividend during tat time? see? he is manipulating his words...

4) Dividend - in latest AGM, Evergreen management has approved to give out at least 40% of net profit to shareholders... so, with the expansion plan almost done (will require less capex, and have more cash)... we can expect more dividend to come.. we invest in the future of Evergreem.. but this joker keeps talking about the past.. and he totally kept quiet about Hevea's past on the bad years.. and when raider said Hevea almost went bankrupt.. what did this sxckperformer say? Trump went bankrupt 3 times but now is a US president.. haha.. funny right? we know it is not end of day for bankruptcy, but we dislike his biased view on evergreen.. Hevea's past was bad, but it is ok.. Evergreen's past was bad, but it is not OK.. see it?

sxckperformer.. see.. i wasted so much time to explain to some idixt like u.. quickly thank me la.. coz i "put money in ur pocket" d...

see... farker sxckperformer is confirmed an idiot again...
i have told him many times that Evergreen is not categorized as "furniture stock" yet (at least not for now) as their current RTA portion is about 5% only.

And many other posts (including the one by Ricky Yeo) compare among "furniture stocks"...

and I have explained that this sxckperformer is not giving fair comparison to compare Evergreen with other "furniture stocks"...

until today he has not answered my questions... see? no-balls... run away from my questions..

and more importantly.... I demand him to apologize to me for insulting me of modifying my average price...

but i am quite sure loser and low-life farker like him will never apologize to anyone even though he already realize his mistake...

i have to assume that low-life idixt like him is living alone in his own world...

Evergreen5101, previously you said he sure can't live in harmony with his wife bcoz he just wants to win (despite that fact that he is already wrong)...

Let me tell you, i doubt idixt like him will have a wife, or even a girl-friend..

u think his "always want to win, thick-face, run away from questions, pretend did not see my challenge" attitude will attract any girl? haha.... i really doubt...

sometimes i really pity him a lot....

haha... u guys realize or not..

sxckperformer keeps talking about debt and dividend of evergreen...
in fact, i explained that above.. but he just ignored my explanation...
and still live in his own farking world and talk cxck...

ppl here are wise ok?
they can see that this idixt is running away from my question...

typical LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and pls do the same if you dare:

1) show us your Hevea profit/loss in your portfolio
2) swear (like what I did) that you did not modify your average price

I don't think this sissy will ever do this...

Reasons:
1) He is very likely (i said very likely, not like some idixt said like he is 100% sure) stuck at high entry price for Hevea
2) He has no-balls lorrrrrrrrrr...................

other ppl here can see that you are such a loser...

until now, sxckperformer still has no balls to take up my challenge...
that means what???

1) he has no balls
2) he does not admit his wrong-doing in accusing me
3) he is a typical loser (who always lose) but want to win so badly by all means
4) he has no face to apologize to me for accusing me
5) maybe he cut off his penxs already to train some legendary Kungfu like "Kuai Fa Bou Dim".. haha

dun farking talk cxck anymore if you dare not take up my challenge...

you think you can simply accuse ppl just like that, fark you!!!!!!!!!

ANSWER to me, sissy, no-balls idixt....

you are best at barking and then running away with your doggie tail snapped between your legs...

AND ONE MORE THING....

until now, he still dares not take up my challenge...

sissy farker retarded sxckperformer..
if you dare to accuse me of modifying my portfolio, where are your balls (oppps, i forgot you cut them off already) to take up challenge?


1) If I modified my average price for Evergreen and the % profit for Evergreen and other shares (not shown), I will die horribly today...

2) If I did not modify my average price for Evergreen and the % profit for Evergreen and other shares (not shown), you will die horribly today...

God will know and judge...

if u have balls, take up this challenge...

else get lost and dun ever talk cxck again...

i have answered all his stupid and manipulated questions, but he has not even answered my one question:

is evergreen a furniture stock at current stage? is it fair to compare its capex intensive business with "pure/mainly" furniture makers which are less capex intensive?

let me cut and paste my statements and question to him again:

let me make one last blow to him on his idixtic and biased comments (for his personal agenda i guess, if not why spend so much time here... quite obvious, he missed the boat and is trying to pull down the share price - but who is he? does he have such influence.. haha.. )..


1) Debt of Evergreen (which is manageable and reasonable for the industry it is involved in) - he keeps saying that Hevea has zero debt but Evergreen has debt.. I have told him that Hevea is more like a furniture company as its 60% sales are from RTA (ready to assemble furniture) which are less capex intensive. Where as currently Evergreen manufactures 80% of raw MDF so it is more capex intensive in terms of the machineries and maintenance. They are not in the exact industries so you just can't compare directly.. he has not even answered my question on this one.. Yes, evergreen will target to build more RTA (current 5% of total revenue), but their main focus is still MDF at current stage. So, until one day when Evergreen has its RTA sales reach 50-60% of total revenue, then only it is fair to directly compare with Hevea on the debt/net cash...

2) Debt of Evergreen - again, let's discuss if the debt is bad or actually good for evergreen. We know that many business raise loans to expand. We have to examine whether their profit margin is higher than the interest they need to pay for the loan. Last year (2015 full year), evergreen net profit margin is 9.1%. This year (up to 9 months), due to forex loss, the net profit margin dropped to 7.3%. But this is still higher than the bank interest rate that they are paying for... example, if you earn RM10 additional but you pay RM5 for interest, u still get additional (net RM5) for the expansion... so why not to expand if you have net profit from there?

3) Dividend - he is again very biased and misleading here.. 2013-14 were bad years for Evergreen, we all know and admit that. This was due to the intense competition of MDF makers within ASEAN (as 2006-08 were good years and many new MDF makers ventured into this business can caused over-supply) However, as mentioned by Evergreen management, many small and incompetitive MDF players have been washed out (go bankrupt) during the bad years of 2012-2014 due to losses.. but evergreen as the biggest MDF player in ASEAN with strong footing and experience has weathered thru the storm and grow bigger now.. in fact, they ate up the market shares of those closed-shop small factories,.. so from 2013-14, we cannot expect evergreen to pay dividends during tough years.. why I said he is biased? When Hevea was in deep financial woes during 2009-2010, why did sxckperformer not question: why Hevea did not pay out dividend during tat time? see? he is manipulating his words...

4) Dividend - in latest AGM, Evergreen management has approved to give out at least 40% of net profit to shareholders... so, with the expansion plan almost done (will require less capex, and have more cash)... we can expect more dividend to come.. we invest in the future of Evergreem.. but this joker keeps talking about the past.. and he totally kept quiet about Hevea's past on the bad years.. and when raider said Hevea almost went bankrupt.. what did this sxckperformer say? Trump went bankrupt 3 times but now is a US president.. haha.. funny right? we know it is not end of day for bankruptcy, but we dislike his biased view on evergreen.. Hevea's past was bad, but it is ok.. Evergreen's past was bad, but it is not OK.. see it?

sxckperformer.. see.. i wasted so much time to explain to some idixt like u.. quickly thank me la.. coz i "put money in ur pocket" d...

see... farker sxckperformer is confirmed an idiot again...
i have told him many times that Evergreen is not categorized as "furniture stock" yet (at least not for now) as their current RTA portion is about 5% only.

And many other posts (including the one by Ricky Yeo) compare among "furniture stocks"...

and I have explained that this sxckperformer is not giving fair comparison to compare Evergreen with other "furniture stocks"...

until today he has not answered my questions... see? no-balls... run away from my questions..

haha.. calvin becomes the unanimous enemy of all now...

regretted a lot that I did not buy more when it dropped to 70+ sen...

great move AirAsia... i still have not sold a single share (average RM1.50+)

Jenas, yes, like what R40s sifu has said, even if we give a 20% discount to the intrinsic value, it should still worth >RM2.00 for this gem... and dun forget about their track records (consecutive years of annual growth), and their current expansion activities... u go read the chairman's statement in their annual report, it is stated that the management expects the company to continue to grow...

untunguntung88, yes, we just ignore cxck-talking ppl like rockycleft...

rockycleft, u r another cxck-talking idiot i have seen.. pls talk fact, not cxck...
we are all discussing about facts

rockycleft... u r another talk-cxck fellow.. pls talk fact, no cxck...

yeohhh, thanks for ur advice..

i used FA only, no TA... so i will avoid this share totally...

i hope you can make money from this lousy company though using TA.. haha

chankp, are u talking about the net cash/debt? pls note that is it different from free/negative cash flow

yes, Success is in net debt now (cash on hand - total debt) = (43280-27928-60057)= -44.705M.
net debt/equity is 44.705/305.173=0.14 (still healthy)...

But it is actually in free cash flow position now (FCF = net cash from operation - CAPEX) = 11,496-1173= +10.323M... which is great,,,


for divinded... they actually paid more in 2016 (5 sen, highest in history) compared to previous years. see below

http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Infomation.aspx?securityCode=7207

ryan, u have to realize one fact - yes, homeriz has good fundamentals, but it is in the same situation as Hevea that both of them are fairly priced in already...
if u buy into either one of them, there is low chance of making good profit..

sissy sxckperformer... go back and lick ur boss KYY balls pls, since u have no balls now...

4) he has no face to apologize to me for accusing me
5) maybe he cut off his penxs already to train some legendary Kungfu like "Kuai Fa Bou Dim".. haha

Raider, until now, he has no balls to take up my challenge...
that means what???

1) he has no balls
2) he does not admit his wrong-doing in accusing me
3) he is a typical loser (who always lose) but want to win so badly by all means

okok, raider.. really waste my gas and time scolding idixt like him...

Raider, this sxckperformer really a con-man and likes to lie/create story to accuse ppl...

even his statements/info provided is half-true, without telling the whole story of evergreen financial situation... in fact, i have proven him wrong with my explanation on all his false accusations..

low life sxckperformer... just fark off plz....

Evergreen5101, pls reveal his real name if you know... haha...
i agree with you, there are 2 possible scenarios here:

1) Either he bought evergreen during its peak (stuck now)
2) or he wanted to talk down evergreen so that he can buy cheaper..

haha... sxckperformer ownself no-balls but accused ppl no balls...

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/5101.jsp

coward sxckperformer, when will u take up my challenge?
If not, publicly APOLOGIZE to me for slandering my reputation!!!

yeah raider, u r right, ppl like sxckperformer just talk cxck all the time and we should just ignore him...

In fact, if he dares not take up my challenge (and if he still thinks he has balls), he should publicly APOLOGIZE to me for accusing me of editing my portfolio...

it is a slander/smear to my reputation and also my investment experience...

leomany, i am really angry when ppl accused me of making loss, in fact i am making money... that is a humiliation to my investment experience.. thanks for your good advice.. perhaps you are right, no need get angry at idixt like sxckperformer...

new proofs??? haha.. whatever proof i gave will be accused of "edit" / "photoshop" again...

need to see u in person and then ask 4 witnesses and then i open up my computer and let you see the portfolio in person? dun talk cxck pls

guys.. u all can see right.. this loser cum coward keeps running away from my challenge and dares not even comment about it...

if he is 100% sure i am stuck (having paper loss) and i edited my portfolio, why didnt he dare to take up my challenge?

conclusion: loser wants to win, despite knowing he was wrong in accusing me... typical loser...

GOD knows it all...........

he will judge...

come on, take up my challenge if you have balls (confirmed u dun have)...

you cut off ur penxs d????

i am nor nervious.. i am only angry when ppl manipulated statements to talk down a good share like evergreen.. so i have to defend it... do u have balls to take up my challenge?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if not, dun continue with ur cxck talk...