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2014-02-26 17:03 | Report Abuse
boh sui beh yau kin........bo he kuah chiu chia lat lor....kikikikiki
2014-02-26 16:36 | Report Abuse
sorry...dun ask me on csl again........I'm phobia on it.......
2014-02-26 15:59 | Report Abuse
no wonder! now I know....lecture isolated in her dream island....sorry....I should respect lecturer ....otherwise I will not be what I'm today.....
Guru is my role model....always.....hmmmmmm....maybe not this one....
I dun like crab teaching human to walk right....
2014-02-26 15:56 | Report Abuse
polemic is always good in sharpen our mind.
entangled in emotional war is unforgiving stupidity.
2014-02-26 15:55 | Report Abuse
unconscious self cheating is always better than misleading others due to conflict of interest....
the most precious lesion learnt in this forum.....more valuable than making rm1KK capital in daya .....
2014-02-26 15:53 | Report Abuse
Its always great to be good to others.......
but never indulges in self-reasoning that ruled by self cheating....
2014-02-26 15:51 | Report Abuse
The New TP rm0.30......
although in my heart telling me the TP price should be rm0.01.....
2014-02-26 15:49 | Report Abuse
meverick88.....i pray that your journey in life would always be a smooth path since you heart are so kind......the prices of CSL go up, up and up ......to enable ppl recover their paper loss....
I also hopes so although my analysis proven otherwise......I hope I'm wrong....
2014-02-26 15:43 | Report Abuse
I'm not a rich man ....I'm affluent enough mentally to live according to my value. But one thing for sure.....I'm against the behaviour of self-cheating, misleading others all out. i'm what i'm...That's me Datuk.
2014-02-26 15:38 | Report Abuse
In my opinion,
1) The current poor earning in JT as against its industry peers will discourage the short term speculator or shy away the potential uninformed long term investor. After all, the layman does not have the competency to spot the "hidden gem" or "hidden risk" beyond the current financial position.
2) There is no standard formula in equity valuation. The variables influenced the valuation changes from time to time such as the performance against industry peers, industry cyclical and the general market sentiment. If you do own homework against its peers, you may be able to appraise the valuation more accurately.
3) The growth that funded by debt is always welcome as long as the earning generated is enough to service the debt. However, there is always a risk associated in financing the growth particularly in commodity business that are cyclical driven.
4) The behavioural of controlling shareholder is critical in realizing the potential of the company. It must be business like.
2014-02-26 14:55 | Report Abuse
meverick88.......never attempt to influence her.....she is so smart....can't match her capability of self cheating ! gua bo beh chow....game over by her even the match is yet to start... kikiki
2014-02-26 14:52 | Report Abuse
shareprofit....if that's yr holding cost and volume on hand...kalah habis pun beh si lah.....kikiki....
2014-02-26 14:31 | Report Abuse
that's the inevitable outcome: self-cheating unconsciously.
2014-02-26 14:29 | Report Abuse
shareprofit.....serious.....still holding csl??? at what price?
give me yr personal email ....atuk will share "something with you"..........
2014-02-26 14:18 | Report Abuse
asyik keluar masuk.....keluar masuk aje...........kikikiki
2014-02-26 14:16 | Report Abuse
lada hitam ...I congrat you for yourslef as tokong in csl speculation......lu chiak beh lioa lor......kikiki
2014-02-26 14:14 | Report Abuse
BTW...ladahitam........you are joining her with your own self reasoning ....kaki kong kaki song......the country capital crunch has nothing to do with company "cash rich" like what she claimed......tak main dengan rubbish excuse on capital preservation.......
the strategy work best for return on invested capital is in line with capital preservation. chai bo!
2014-02-26 14:09 | Report Abuse
shareprofit.......dun argue with oldies......she will never admit her mistake......in her earlier posting she said her holding was rm0.50......now change to rm0.215.....she can said whatever she like.....after all..her suffering is born by her .....not others.....
dun waste our energy with self-cheating being...kikikiki
2014-02-26 13:58 | Report Abuse
Fj...pls dun blog with me anymore..gua bo heng chu lau char bo..kikiki
2014-02-26 13:56 | Report Abuse
I will never disclose my stake until I bought enough. Investment is not a matter of altruism. I openly declared. When I empty my position...I trigger the sell signal as well. ...
You can ask meverick88 for confirmation
2014-02-26 12:39 | Report Abuse
the price had collapsed from IPO rm0.95 to rm0.20....(not to mention the first 4 months since listed) you considered price stable????? waulau........
no more blogging with you anymore......we are difference class ! and from difference planet.....kikikikiki
2014-02-26 12:36 | Report Abuse
you speak the truth? comes on.....you speak with bias truth and lead newbie to Holland niah.....that' s the reality.....
Go and track your first posting on csl to see how much $$$ ppl had loss if follow yr advice.......
I'm not the judge...nether you.......let the other bloggers be....
2014-02-26 12:26 | Report Abuse
wow...ladahitam....csl is the most profitable of all your investment so far?????? you are either entangled in self-cheating or you are damn bad in your selection...
I dun look you down ....others will
2014-02-26 10:40 | Report Abuse
it's time for dim sum......bye bye.
2014-02-26 10:35 | Report Abuse
I bet with my broking agent on megan media worth 5 cents when the price lingering between rm0.95-rm1.10....I loss rm5K to her ......on the timing .....the end of day....megan media worth zero..after paying the hand sand dividend
2014-02-26 10:32 | Report Abuse
dun worry......ego and credibility is worth nothing to me.........confirming my intelligence is much more worthy effort ..........after all, that's faculty is crucial for wealth building.
2014-02-26 10:26 | Report Abuse
the timing somewhere the release of next annual report .....
2014-02-26 10:25 | Report Abuse
shareprofit.......I had changed my TP ......no longer rm0.16........virtually the TP rm0.01....no kidding..
2014-02-26 10:11 | Report Abuse
clp72....she is proxy to cf......that's the reality !
2014-02-26 10:11 | Report Abuse
rm0.20....yau ah yau...........yoyo..........runtuh!!!!
2014-02-26 10:05 | Report Abuse
shareprofit......wonder how? wonder why? highest volume since its inception at new low price! the 8 wonders....kikiki
2014-02-26 09:38 | Report Abuse
BTW....shareprofit.....we must be abang adik b4....becos ppl here tend to believe we are the same person...kikikikiki
2014-02-26 09:36 | Report Abuse
you are abnormal and not an intelligence investor if you not incline to think there is a fishy issue in CSL...w)hen you relate the behaviour of CF as I mentioned above....sold his share at rubbish price, no SBB, no PSB, no multiple proposal (all other good Chinese counter have explored options to reward shareholder.....xinguuan will join xdl, cap soon
2014-02-26 09:33 | Report Abuse
the NTA is rm1.20 against the share price rm0.20-0.22 with cash rm093 per share.....earning deposit rmb 1.6b at 3 % giving return RMB 48million per annum..(if against the equity base, the return of fixed deposit is peanut, not sensible from the capital utilization perspective)......you think yourself with yr brain
2014-02-26 09:29 | Report Abuse
As an intelligence investor, we should not cover and legitimate the wrong behaviour of CF. How you rated the competency of management when you are weighing against the option between SBB and earning 3% fix deposit (if it's real) ???? Ponder!
2014-02-26 09:22 | Report Abuse
issues surmounting in csl is big and not able to resolve by our write up here! Any attempt to recovery paper loss is a waste of time as CF had voted with no confidence in csl
The correct approach is cut off and look for other alternative while the market sentiment is still bullish...the time is running out......correction is coming soon...
2014-02-26 09:17 | Report Abuse
what I stressed over many times ....the central issue in csl is not lies in dividend or cash issue....
what I challenge is the management issue ....why sold the share at rubbish price when the cash is 4.5 times higher than its share price and there is no personal buyback or SBB by the company. Instead....talking rubbish putting the money in fixed deposit?????
Vulture and crocodile worldwide particularly from HK and china won't let the situation continues if the real cash is with the company......someone will and had initiated the reverse takeover lioa.....when cf loss his controlling stake legally.
2014-02-26 09:06 | Report Abuse
In the first place....did I mention there will be no dividend announced by csl? Did I mention csl is confirmed without the cash in my write up? dun talk nonsense here......although I knew had suffered big paper loss that practically no way to recover your entire investment in csl....
Pertaining to yr bet....it must be 2 ways...what say you?
2014-02-25 17:29 | Report Abuse
there is no tokong in share market! you will lose yr pant if you follow blindly in equity market....anyway, that's yr right....I no comment....I will continuous to furnish my info...once avai.
You dun care ....others care.
2014-02-25 17:12 | Report Abuse
Oic.....I had a friend sit in senior position....perhaps....let me dig more info...
2014-02-25 16:38 | Report Abuse
There is a business tycoon experienced failure in gua musang because of soil there is not suitable for palm plantation.....very low in recovery per acre....
2014-02-25 16:29 | Report Abuse
i am in the opinion if you can't translate the growth in FFB into bottom line during the bull cycle....likes any other FFB players in the industry.....be cautious....need to examine further the details as i outlined above..
2014-02-25 16:25 | Report Abuse
palm oil is a commodity business. There will be no selling price differentiation within the same grade of FFB. Hence, there are several deciding factors influencing the bottom line:
I) The cost efficiency per acre
II)The fruit recovery per acre
III) The source of growth in FFB production mature, un mature and green trees
IV) Unplanted land to support future growth.
JT is a relative small size FFB player now and still a rather small player in future after factor in CAG at 30% for the next 5 years
The other business segment is timber...perhaps that would be more attractive in future...
I won't buy JT if just based on FFB story alone...
2014-02-25 15:58 | Report Abuse
Mr Koon had indicated the historical growth in FFB production and forecasted the next 5 years CAGR at 30%......what is the impact to the bottom line in JT financial position?
Perhaps that correlation can leads us to uncover the real value in JT...
2014-02-25 12:54 | Report Abuse
correction.....sum is very much bigger than its part..
Stock: [HEXZA]: HEXZA CORPORATION BHD
2014-02-26 17:18 | Report Abuse
surprisingly....still below rm1.00