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2016-04-28 01:10 | Report Abuse

If anyone still don't know what kind of personality & characters of paperplane, and still want to follow his call, of which are purely based on NEWS & HOPES and without any financial proof & basis, then good luck to you.

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2016-04-28 01:10 | Report Abuse

当一个人被逼到角落而无法自圆其说的时候,他就会乱喊乱叫来掩饰他的无知和低能。

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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:31 AM | Report Abuse
I value -100000000,deficit

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:39 AM | Report Abuse
U value how much? Moneyidiotsofu?
-2000000000000000000?
Or -80000000000000ⁿ000000000000000000000000000000000000???

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:40 AM | Report Abuse
Just tell me,iinsert any TP u like!

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2016-04-28 01:09 | Report Abuse

以RM1.10的价钱,SGB的市价是一亿一千五百万。

同类型的发展商的PE ratio是介于4-5之间,假设PE ratio是五的话,SGB需要有净利润两千三百万来支持现在的价位!

Paperplane就是无法说出他对SGB合理价,期盼的净盈利还有未来PE ratio?

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

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2016-04-28 01:09 | Report Abuse

以RM1.10的价钱,SGB的市价是一亿一千五百万。

同类型的发展商的PE ratio是介于4-5之间,假设PE ratio是五的话,SGB需要有净利润两千三百万来支持现在的价位!

Paperplane就是无法说出他对SGB合理价,期盼的净盈利还有未来PE ratio?

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

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2016-04-28 01:08 | Report Abuse

How childish you are, paperplane, you just simply can't answer!

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:31 AM | Report Abuse
I value -100000000,deficit

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:39 AM | Report Abuse
U value how much? Moneyidiotsofu?
-2000000000000000000?
Or -80000000000000ⁿ000000000000000000000000000000000000???

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:40 AM | Report Abuse
Just tell me,iinsert any TP u like!

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2016-04-28 01:07 | Report Abuse

以RM1.10的价钱,SGB的市价是一亿一千五百万。

同类型的发展商的PE ratio是介于4-5之间,假设PE ratio是五的话,SGB需要有净利润两千三百万来支持现在的价位!

Paperplane就是无法说出他对SGB合理价,期盼的净盈利还有未来PE ratio?

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

Stock

2016-04-28 01:01 | Report Abuse

当一个人被逼到角落而无法自圆其说的时候,他就会乱喊乱叫来掩饰他的无知和低能。

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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:31 AM | Report Abuse
I value -100000000,deficit

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:39 AM | Report Abuse
U value how much? Moneyidiotsofu?
-2000000000000000000?
Or -80000000000000ⁿ000000000000000000000000000000000000???

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:40 AM | Report Abuse
Just tell me,iinsert any TP u like!

Stock

2016-04-28 00:59 | Report Abuse

If anyone still don't know what kind of personality & characters of paperplane, and still want to follow his call, of which are purely based on NEWS & HOPES and without any financial proof & basis, then good luck to you.

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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:31 AM | Report Abuse
I value -100000000,deficit

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:39 AM | Report Abuse
U value how much? Moneyidiotsofu?
-2000000000000000000?
Or -80000000000000ⁿ000000000000000000000000000000000000???

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:40 AM | Report Abuse
Just tell me,iinsert any TP u like!

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2016-04-28 00:57 | Report Abuse

How childish you are, paperplane, you just simply can't answer!

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Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:31 AM | Report Abuse
I value -100000000,deficit

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:39 AM | Report Abuse
U value how much? Moneyidiotsofu?
-2000000000000000000?
Or -80000000000000ⁿ000000000000000000000000000000000000???

Posted by paperplane2016 > Apr 28, 2016 12:40 AM | Report Abuse
Just tell me,iinsert any TP u like!

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2016-04-28 00:35 | Report Abuse

Down 25% also don't bother you? Paperplane?

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2016-04-28 00:35 | Report Abuse

SGB has never registered any profits for all these years since its listing with Bursa. See yourself.
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/fin/7165.jsp

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2016-04-28 00:35 | Report Abuse

SGB has never registered any profits for all these years since its listing with Bursa. See yourself.
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/fin/7165.jsp

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2016-04-28 00:34 | Report Abuse

Paperplane,

At price of RM1.10, the market capitalisation of SGB is oledi RM115 million.

Assuming PE 5 for similar size developer, you need NET PROFIT RM23 million to support current price!!!

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

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2016-04-28 00:33 | Report Abuse

Paperplane,

At price of RM1.10, the market capitalisation of SGB is already RM115 million.

Assuming PE 5 for similar size developer, you need NET PROFIT RM23 million to support current price!

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

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2016-04-28 00:31 | Report Abuse

You are treating members of i3 as idiots all the time, thinking them as junk, no need to give any financial projection & just keep shouting BUY BUY BUY ALL IN.

When price up, you take credit.

When price down, you feel nothing.

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2016-04-28 00:28 | Report Abuse

Asking people to sai lang & ALL IN, but no financial basis for such call???

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2016-04-28 00:28 | Report Abuse

You yourself is a joke now, paperplane, talk this talk that & never answer my questions:

At price of RM1.10, the market capitalisation of SGB is oledi RM115 million.

Assuming PE 5 for similar size developer, you need NET PROFIT RM23 million to support current price!!!

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

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2016-04-28 00:27 | Report Abuse

Paperplane, it's just a simple question.

At price of RM1.10, the market capitalisation of SGB is oledi RM115 million.

Assuming PE 5 for similar size developer, you need NET PROFIT RM23 million to support current price!!!

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

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2016-04-28 00:25 | Report Abuse

Come one, paperplane, we all know Tan Sri Liew Kee Sin & the resources he has.

I can't even name who is the director you so admired of. What does he has?

You are comparing little known singer to John Lennon. What a joke.

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2016-04-28 00:15 | Report Abuse

At price of RM1.10, the market capitalisation of SGB is oledi RM115 million.

Assuming PE 5 for similar size developer, you need NET PROFIT RM23 million to support current price!!!

SGB has never registered any profits for all these years since its listing with Bursa. See yourself.
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/fin/7165.jsp

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2016-04-28 00:13 | Report Abuse

I have no idea, that's I never ask people to buy. You are the one who asking people to ALL IN & yet you can't even answer such simple questions:

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

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2016-04-28 00:12 | Report Abuse

We are talking about investment, don't you think we need basis & calculation to make sure the decision is justifiable?

But yet you asking people to sai lang & ALL IN, but you simply can't answer the simple questions:

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

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2016-04-28 00:10 | Report Abuse

That's how you behave all these while, childish & rude.

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paperplane2016 I value? Rm 0, so you happy now? So what?
28/04/2016 00:03
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paperplane2016 I really value rm0! Since you cakap macam dia many bankrupt ni!

!maybe I should value -RM10000000000. Negative, bankrupt not enough, must deficit few millions to billions

Happy now???hahahahaha.
28/04/2016 00:08

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2016-04-28 00:08 | Report Abuse

Since you are so clever, smart & brave, why not answer my question? paperplane?

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

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2016-04-28 00:06 | Report Abuse

You are so childish to answer like that.
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paperplane2016 I value? Rm 0, so you happy now? So what?
28/04/2016 00:03

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2016-04-28 00:06 | Report Abuse

You don't have answer for my question? paperplane?

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

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2016-04-28 00:04 | Report Abuse

You are talking nonsense, Gadang has already JV with Cyberview Sdn Bhd for 1billion PR1MA, see what's Gadang PE now?

5.7times only!!!

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2016-04-28 00:00 | Report Abuse

You still don't answer my question, paperplane.

How much you value this company? How much is the expected profit? What is the PE you are looking for?

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2016-04-27 23:58 | Report Abuse

You are really insane, paperplane, asking people to tap into property development at this junction.

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2016-04-27 23:55 | Report Abuse

Paperplane, you have not answered this. You just want to divert attention, I am not interested at your history, no proof at all.

How much you value this company? How much is expected PE after all?
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When you look at the figures, AND look around on those long time established developers like Hua Yang, Tambun & even KSL are far more superior & better, at least all are proven & still profitable.

KNOW WHAT? All these developers only command PE4-5 only!!!

At price of RM1.10, the market capitalisation of SGB is oledi RM115 million.

Assuming PE 5 for similar size developer, you need NET PROFIT RM23 million to support current price!!!

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2016-04-27 23:50 | Report Abuse

Assuming PE 5 for similar size developer, you need NET PROFIT RM23 million to support current price!!!

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2016-04-27 23:49 | Report Abuse

At price of RM1.10, the market capitalisation of SGB is oledi RM115 million.

What is the profit you are projecting? Paperplane?

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2016-04-27 23:48 | Report Abuse

RM147mil project would commence when the development order had been issued and would take 30 months to complete.

Yields between 7% and 8%

Expected profit before tax (7.5%) = 11 million

Expected net profit = 11m - 25% tax = 8.25m

Every month = 8.25mil / 30 months = RM275k per month
Average 12 months = 3.3 mil

How much should we use on PE? The market is 5!!!

ASSUMPTION 1 = ALL SOLD OUT
ASSUMPTION 2 = yield 7.5%
ASSUMPTION 3 = construction materials not gone up

If you look at what was given by paperplane, I feel very scary oledi, expect PE of 10? 20?

For such small developer? Are you insane?

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2016-04-27 23:43 | Report Abuse

Paperplane, you have not answered this. You just want to divert attention

How much you value this company? How much is expected PE after all?
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When you look at the figures, AND look around on those long time established developers like Hua Yang, Tambun & even KSL are far more superior & better, at least all are proven & still profitable.

KNOW WHAT? All these developers only command PE4-5 only!!!

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2016-04-27 23:13 | Report Abuse

If price gone up after excellent results like those of Pohuat, KESM, Sam, Liihen & so on, then the price will be staying there.

If those supported by news & hopes only, all koyak later, go find yourself how many cases like that.

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2016-04-27 23:10 | Report Abuse

Paperplane, answer this. How much you value this company? How much is expected PE afterall?
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When you look at the figures, AND look around on those long time established developers like Hua Yang, Tambun & even KSL are far more superior & better, at least all are proven & still profitable.

KNOW WHAT? All these developers only command PE4-5 only!!!

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2016-04-27 23:05 | Report Abuse

This counter has yet to deliver any result, wanna bet on its future based on announcement from what so called political like boss?

If you can believe an politician, then pig also can climb tree oledi.

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2016-04-27 23:01 | Report Abuse

paperplane, you are asking people to holland & yet keep shouting ALL IN ALL IN

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2016-04-27 23:00 | Report Abuse

When you look at the figures, AND look around on those long time established developers like Hua Yang, Tambun & even KSL are far more superior & better, at least all are proven & still profitable.

KNOW WHAT? All these developers only command PE4-5 only!!!

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2016-04-27 22:58 | Report Abuse

That's how it play, NEWS & HOPES, no figure

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2016-04-27 22:57 | Report Abuse

If you look at what was given by paperplane, I feel very scary oledi, expect PE of 10? 20?

For such small developer? Are you insane?

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2016-04-27 22:56 | Report Abuse

ASSUMPTION 1 = ALL SOLD OUT
ASSUMPTION 2 = yield 7.5%
ASSUMPTION 3 = construction materials not gone up

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2016-04-27 22:54 | Report Abuse

RM147mil project would commence when the development order had been issued and would take 30 months to complete.

Yields between 7% and 8%

Expected profit before tax (7.5%) = 11 million

Expected net profit = 11m - 25% tax = 8.25m

Every month = 8.25mil / 30 months = RM275k per month
Average 12 months = 3.3 mil

How much should we use on PE? The market is 5!!!

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2016-04-27 22:48 | Report Abuse

If someone say more than 56%, it means 56%. Only 56% sold when the construction was already 18% completed. Think about it.
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The first, announced in July, was a management contract for the development of Southern City Phase 1B 18-storey apartment in Kemaman valued at RM75mil.

More than 56% or 102 units of the apartment have been sold. The physical construction on-site progress is also ahead of schedule with an 18% completion rate.

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2016-04-27 17:50 | Report Abuse

Until any financial results from the company has proved the basis of price going up, until then all I will classify as NEWS & HOPES

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2016-04-27 17:39 | Report Abuse

You are unable to justify the action to make it a buy call, all just about NEWS & HOPES.

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2016-04-27 17:38 | Report Abuse

See, paperplane, you just want to see what you want to see & talk what you want to talk, nothing more.

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2016-04-27 17:35 | Report Abuse

paperplane, when you said the reply to UMA is fact to you, do you know how weak is your basis to make it as fact?

IT IS CALLED NEWS!!! A news from directors!!! Nothing conclusive & no figures at all.

Nothing is related to fundamental base of the company!!!
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paperplane2016 not fundamental? hello? UMA sudah said got more projects coming, not fundamental?
27/04/2016 17:27

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2016-04-27 17:30 | Report Abuse

This is great part by paperplane, he just see what he want to see, hear what he want to hear, talk what he want to talk only.

Fact of price fall from RM1.43 to RM1.10 is invisible to paperplane and yet asking people to ALL IN.

You already led people go to holland to buy genting-wa when price was RM2.50, now it is pitifully sitting at RM1.80.

Now want to lead people to go holland again? Where is your INTEGRITY?