Don't compare hibiscus with PETRONAS right away bro. Then we all will be comparing proton (DRB HICOM) with GM. FORD etc,, and so on and so forth !. There is no end to dreaming and also no price to pay. That is the beauty. Got to go for my X'Mas shopping. See u guys later in the forum> Good luck and happy trading

iafxpost 'hibiscs rolling 4 qtrs. is 0.53'
11/12/2013 10:59

Where u got this info. Don't just taruh a figure bro.Tqvm

roslaom: PE is a guide. But excessive PE, need to take stock of it. thats all bro. Don't compare straight away with PETRONAS. They hv been there and done all, established. PETRONAS our national pride.

roslaom; pl read my opinin above, don't give me all the venture cap and definition storyline, as I am a corporate finance man myself. tqvm

huatah: U don't get my point here. The co will definite see their growth gaining traction, when future earning roll in. But the market is frontloading these future earnings now as indicated by the PE. Also no qualms as to how much reserves they have. It takes time and caoex to get this 'black gold' out. Mine based solely on FA and not TA. No hardfeelings my friends. just an opinion only. I also stand corrected. Give the future investor also a chance to share the pie and let the' flower ' grow organically

My question is how much can they make it the next 2 quartes to trim the PE to 50x. Can anyone answer this question? I also want to invest, not a critic my friend

huatua: Then why is this shell co. trading so high? U r frontloading future earnings my friend!! Remind me of the 'wild wild west' and rush for 'gold'

The PE for Oil & Gas is around 50x. Hibuscus Q1'14 (June 2013) & Q2'14 (Sept 2013) total EPS is negative. Got to get their act together in the next 2 Quarters.

THE PE is very high at 451X. Unless they get the right results in by next FY Mar '14, u looking at the 'highway to danger zone'. My opinion only. Trade wisely

WE WANT A CAP REDUCTION, CASH PAYOUT, N CONSOLIDATION! WE WANT A CAP REDUCTION, CASH PAYOUT, N CONSOLIDATION! WE WANT A CAP REDUCTION, CASH PAYOUT, N CONSOLIDATION! Merry XMas & Happy New Year

PETRONAS announcement probably next 2014 quarter> This project is big with heavy lobbying, For Investors, and secondly if they get, it will have to be shared, remember also MAYBANK 2nd TP RM 1.65. if they get the whole package, very unlikely.. They r 624m issued shares, heavy base in the same league of Perisai and Alam. So trade with wisdom

even INIX has rose from the ashes like a phoenix!! I still wonder wht they r doing

how u want a chocolate to taste?? Bitter! Go eat some bitter gourd then!!

has come back

Dr will give a gift by eve. Look out for it. tqvm

Raising PM CORP shares is like flogging a 'dead horse'. No offence to u Calvin. I know u r passionate about this stock and u meant well in all ur postings. Please read this article, and let us know where NFI chocolates stand in the Singapore Market.

CHOCOLOTE CONFECTIONERY IN SINGAPORE

1.TRENDS

In a reflection of the health and wellness trend, consumers are gradually moving towards reduced sugar chocolate confectionery. In addition, there is also a trend towards premium high-quality chocolates as consumers develop a more sophisticated taste for chocolate and the know-how to appreciate premium chocolate products such as those with high cocoa content. Consumers further appreciate the health benefits offered by dark chocolate due to the flavonoid content found in cocoa beans which has antioxidant properties.

2.COMPETITIVE LANDSCAPE

Ferrero SpA leads chocolate confectionery with an expected value share of 23% in 2012 due to its strong portfolio of brands, including Ferrero Rocher, which is the leading brand in standard boxed assortments, Kinder Bueno, ranked second in countlines, and Kinder Joy, which is the leading brand in chocolate with toys. These brands are household names which are trusted by consumers for their taste and quality. Ferrero SpA is also expected to see the biggest increase in value share in 2012 as it continued to invest in marketing for its brands to ensure that they maintain top-of-the mind awareness among consumers.

3.PROSPECTS

Chocolate confectionery is expected to see a 3% constant value CAGR over the forecast period. Growth is expected to be slightly faster than during the review period, despite a weaker volume growth rate, as consumers continue to purchase more premium chocolate confectionery. There is likely to be a growing demand for niche chocolate confectionery and novel products that use exotic ingredients and flavours, as consumers continue to develop more sophisticated palates

Source: EUROMONITOR INTERNATIONAL

hibiscus my friends - wow

slts rojak english: "Don't get caught with ur 'paints' down". What english!! This rojak man cannot even write proper english, how can he ever analyse financials!! In Chinese we say don't talk 'c'mah. Anyway I encourage him to post more of his new found 'wisdom', cause the more he post the more silly he sounds. We also need entertainment here sometime, tension during BURSA trading. So let him keep his 'paints' on as usual and post - hs ha ha! Happy trading monday folks.
09/12/2013 00:24

Both will do bro. Just sit and watch

Al investor: 6 months has already started bro from Q1FY'14 ( 1 July 2013). Come Dec '13 will be 6 months, Lets look at it then and now and toward CNY> angpow is there definitely for us. We wont be talking about the 'BIG FISH, SMALL FISH story then.

Look also at our associate, INARI forum. Bunch of happy, close knit guys, well invested, waiting for their rewards too. Good for them> They kaya, we also kaya ma!!

BIG FISH, SMALL FISH etc etc! Don't always blame the sharks, whales et etc for ur misfortunes. Sharks also give u a chance to 'accumulate' at low prices when they throw down ma. if u r focused on INSAS true IV, u wont tire urself out mentally. Learn to swim with sharks, not eaten by them,. Look at the value of INSAS end Dec, when everyone will be chasing like its going out of fashion. Its a wonderful co, and with INARI awaiting its listing on the main board, what else! STAY INVESTED TO BENEFIT FROM INSAS. PLAY SAFE & STAY SAFE.

BIG FISH, SMALL FISH etc etc! Look at the cos fundamentals and stay 'INVESTED'. Carry on with ur normal work and look at ur net worth when the time comes, soon. Cant be monitoring everyday, can u? The market is not for contras.- only INVESTORS.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-s-mobile-china-win-could-be-a-loser-for-samsung-155550722.html

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-s-mobile-china-win-could-be-a-loser-for-samsung-155550722.html

Local heavy weight SKEPTRO is around 30-40x PE!

Most of the oil cos in US are SPECs. They r everwhere in the world drilling, drilling and drilling...... Wht is their PE?

ya Mars and beyond!. Its PE now is > 400x. careful

chang21 right on bro!

anbz post: i want to ask something..isn't the eps of insas is greater than inari...is it come from revenue or others?
05/12/2013 16:09

EPS 8.87c (Q1'14) v EPS 9.14c (FYE '13). This is the indication of things to come!.
04/12/2013 12:03

EPS 8.87c (Q1'14) - 16.8% of the EPS 8.87c was from 'Other Income'. The remaining 83.2% was from INSAS varied core business activities. This is a very healthy indicator of INSAS 'CORE BUSINESS GROWTH' TREND. By the way today was T+4, forselling. Need to flush out the contras before the stock price gains traction towards est RM 2.50 FYE '14. This is based on 7.2x fully diluted FY14 est EPS 35c.The EPS has also factored in INARI's recent EPS upgrade and also its imminent entry into the Main Board by early next year at a relatively higher pricing.

Its Q1’14 started on 1July’13 and we would complete 6 months by Q2’14, end of this month. Half of estimated FY’14 RM 2.50 by Dec 2013 > RM 1.25. There is definitely a ‘gap up’ to fulfill the true value here by Dec ’13.

So remain 'INVESTED' and good luck. God bless

MY OPINION. NOT A CALL TO BUY/SELL
05/12/2013 18:51

thks bro for the info. I will share an article with u later. Need to rush for a meeting now. good luck. enjoy the ride and exit after a reasonable gain.

We have 2 national enterprises ( 'pride of the nation'), one is a 'car maker' and the other 'airline' . Need I have to say more....

cos like UEM , DRB HICOM. with such high market capitalization, I don't want to touch it. All the raves and rantings and I wonder what they eventually do with their cash. Now DRB H want to venture into property and this and that!! Very difficult to predict these cos, don't look at the financials alone. Too much politics and lobbyin!!

bro wt is sum-of-parts valuation. Thks

Affin Upgrade INARI Price
https://www.affintrade.com/gcAF/download/Inari%2020131104%20CU%20Affin.pdf

http://www.theborneopost.com/2013/10/05/inari-amertron-a-step-closer-to-main-market-transfer/

http://www.leinvest.com/en/inariinari0166seeks-transfer-to-main-market.html#.Up8E7FqwrIV

patience bro. will see a better picture from here onwards. Need to weed out the contras first. But holding steady.. A good sign

EPS 8.87c (Q1'14) v EPS 9.14c (FYE '13). This is the indication of things to come!.
04/12/2013 12:03

Unless u hv the holding power, and u know the co's fundamentals, ur ok. Rough out the 'flushing period' for punters

inari is uptrending today. Hope it continues tomorrow, benefiting INSAS shares as well - 33.9% stake

gweilo,In792,Illoydlim. Agreed

sell off by operator at high price.

A volume is always built up at the Rm 1.39 level, to push off the shares at Rm 1.40!!!!!!!

the stock should see a pullback b4 the next upsurge, depending on when the announcement is going to tk place.

is he, then limits up bro!!

with tun's exit ????

Calvin, thks for the excellent analysis breakdown. Market overall is quiet today

prc4wifefe Read the link. well his opinion. The remaining players r also well connected too with the expertise, infra etc. lookin for the news

chang21 Thks bro

ryan11 This is a biggie and all bidders wants a stake, heavy lobbying is taking place. So expect surprises,!!