Livinia? Got any reason ah you put close today will be 1.45??

Red red red. Waiting for better days..

Ecowld down, Dbhd also down.. Any explanations on this?

Hari ini semua red red red!

any research has been made from any IB on OCK?

Jual jual jual? Sapa mau bili?

Waterfall! You're right fortunebullz

I will try to explain it in a simple way. I hope everyone will humble themselves and listen. As people said, ego can kill and ego can cause you to make wrong judgement. Sometimes we have to think outside of the box and there is always something TA and FA doesn't tell you.

Let's use houses as an example. Assuming we have 100 houses in one area A and another close by area B has 10 houses. All these houses start price is RM50k. Every year 10%people move in and out of area A (10) and area B (1)

If you start buying house in area A, most likely you will get a better price. Agree? Simply because there are more competition. If 9 sell at RM60k and 1 sell at RM70k. Then of course people will pay RM60k and the 1 that sell at RM70 will need to lower his/her price.

If you love to move into area B, only 1 out of 10 house is sold. You are unlikely to get a good price because the seller has no competition. Agree?

Ok, Now let's say government agree that houses in area B is huge and should split into 5 and become 50 houses and still owned by 10 owners and each house sell at RM10k. Assuming some owner sell part of the houses, then the price should be lower but it is still more expensive than area A, People are more attractive to buy the smaller house at RM10k as it is in a good area.

DSONIC is like area B. When it first issues shares, the number of shares is small. After 1:5 split, it is still small. Now there is one key factor that most people never bother to find out is the top 30 share holders own over 90% of the shares.
http://www.insage.com.my/ir/cmn/t01/tsh_t01.aspx?Symbol=5216

These 90% shareholder seldom sell their shares even after the split and first round of bonus. So the split has virtually no effect to the liquidity of the shares.

The remaining 10% is hold by a lot of loyal retailer and I am proudly to be one. Most of us not selling any shares after split. So even the number of shares has increased, The 50 houses is still worth like 10 houses. As more and more people aware of area B, they are willing to put a higher price. It's happening in real life in good area, It's happening to dsonic shares too.

With low free float counters, share price can be up and down quickly. Still not convinced? Go and check Ecoworld and HLCap.

Last week when it raised to 4.87, I agree it was indeed rise without proper fundamental back up and I assume it is because of the CA. I agree various sifu and expert here issue warning and everyone should listen. Most of us were blinded by the greed.

However, with recent few additional announcement, I think we should look it at a different way.

Btw, people always says how much percentage that dsonic has increased since IPO. If you value a share like this, people will never buy shares like public bank, nestle, genting and etc. EPS should be studied and compared with peers.

Another great post from the dsonic forumers. I forgot to jot down his nickname. It may be valuable to our fellow readers here.

Zekuan. My thought on cytew post "Sell all you Eoworld shares on Monday (28/4/2014), wait to buy its OR later"
1. Sell all your shares on Monday
2. Buy again later on dips (jatuh)

Don't follow blindly. You'll have excuses to blame others when you rugi..

Keladi said this in dsonic forum on 26/04/2014 00:45: "there's a difference between bonus issue and stock split of the same ratio, and few reasons why bonus issue is more superior

company uses retained earnings to convert it to share capital and distribute it as bonus shares to shareholder, thus increasing shareholder's fund

where as in stock split the company's share capital remains the same

par value remains unchanged in bonus issue, while in stock split the par value drops by the ratio of the split

p.s. Though par value has no affect on the share price of a stock, but shareholders can be assured that the company would not issue further shares below the par value, so they can be confident that no one else will receive a more favorable issue price. Even so, company could have done a par value reduction to raise capital if current share price is below the par value"

About the right issue, I don't have any experience on that matter because i'm a new player here. If the price hit 6 at the time share split will be issued, we will get two times the share quantity at rm3 each. Correct me if i'm wrong..

Lua508.
Sharing something valuable.."proposed share split involving the subdivision of each of the existing ordinary shares of RM1.00 each in EW Berhad into two (2) ordinary shares of RM0.50 each in EW Berhad"
This means that: if the price is 5.40 at the time,your 100 unit of shares become 200 unit with 2.70 value per share.

Kelvin ching.
Nobody can guarantee your profit. But, if you want to buy, just queue your orders next Monday. Probability to shoot up is high. Trade on your own judgment.

Too many questions. No answers. "Monday will up ah?". "What date is the bonus?". You all must learn from Old Timer tewnama la. He is one of the loyal dsonic supporter around here. If you feel threatened by the volatility of mr Price, please wait for IPO. 7 eleven. Boustead plantation, among the few.. http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2013/11/25/At-leat-9-IPOs-worth-RM1814bil-for-2014.aspx/

A: When the bonus will approve?
B: The bonus is taken longer than expected. I think Bursa rejected it.
C: B is a naysayers. Don't listen to him. He want to buy low. Please i3 moderator. Ban this B person. B is the culprit to dsonic loyal investor.

Typical scenario. Tiket sudah ada. Tunggu la hari isnin! Good luck all!

zoomboom. You ada berapa kontena??

Bergantung sendiri punya objektif. Dapat sikit, lari la. Tapi saya tak main contra, hehehe.

Bro tewnama: I tengah cari identiti diri. Sama ada sesuai jadi kaki simpan atau kaki loncat.. Respek sama kamu, kaki simpan yang power!

Old timer tewnama and optimus1. I Orang baru kat klse. Starting from Jan tahun ini. Banyak tengok optimus1 kacau-kacau kat Iris itu hari. Tewnama pula sentiasa optimis apabila dsonic jatuh teruk baru-baru ini. Lepas tu, I nampak optimus1 masuk dbhd, I ikut masuk. Dia lari, I lari. Lari-lari-lari, tiba-tiba masuk sini. Hahaha.

Sebab apa suspend? Saya baru loncat masuk ini kapal?!

I'm not an investor. I am seeking great counter all around. Cmsb quite a good ride before. But the price seems stalling at this level for quite some time. I guess 'big money' is awaiting for bonus issue before they come entering here again. Without their support, it will take some time to pick up. Currently in dbhd. They gain me quite an amount. Cmsb still under my radar...

Gan Hong khai: lagi mau tanya ka? Hahaha. If you enter at 1.97, once it reached tp you'll gain 26%. Just look at the momentum, the tp is achievable. Trade on your own conscience..

Eastern_tea. My thought is: the counter is already too pricey for some traders. The only one left here is the investor. Traders will come in flocking this counter after the bonus issue taken place. At that time, price will be much more attractive: around 3rggt and above.. People will help pushing the price up! Please be patient. The show will start once bonus issue have been excercised.

You want more exciting counter: Ecowld, Dbhd. Trade on your own conscience.

Thanks stockman. The news will be much encouraging!

Why there's no tp for Ecowld and Dbhd?

Theory no 1.
The research house doesn't want to get problems with "somebody important & powerful". Tp is limiting the price to go up.

Theory no 2.
Maybe the research house want to accumulate for themselves currently. One day nanti, maybe they will release their own tp and the sheeps (ordinary people) ramai-ramai datang sini.

To dylan312: no tp for both ecowrld and dbhd. No research house covering both counters. Both are growth stocks. Looking from the chart, "somebody important & powerful" is pushing the price up! No need to concern on tp and such.. Just believe that you are on the same boat as "somebody important & powerful". Just look at both charts, you will notice that their pattern is the same.

Dbhd up. Ecowld up. Who's responsible for this? Hehehe.

Valuemaster. Saya sudah paper profit 6k already. OK la tu. Just warming up the conversation, because there's someone from Dsonic cursing at Dbhd counter.

RAVI. Care to see dbhd queue? Queing rm958k++ at 1.87.. Strong support there. They don't want another UMA, so they queue lower for the speculators.. Great strategy! Come on join us Bro!

Someone envy of us! Hahaha. Please go back to your dsonic forum.. Dsonic vs dbhd..

1. Dsonic got so many speculators. Many people make money intraday there.
2. Dbhd backed by "somebody" powerful. Just look at ecoworld. Maybe reach 5ringgit no problem also?!
3. Dsonic already got their perfect run. Now is dbhd time!
4. You said "no business no projects"?! Care to see hlcap, cmsb? Come la join us, Mari sama-sama huat!

What hapen to the counter? Are they suspending the counter? No price shown on both bursa and broker platform.. http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/list-of-companies/plc-profile.html?stock_code=2852

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/1593165

Refer to the link above. There will be another meeting with shareholders. Slow-slow la Bro. It is minor correction. Stay invested in the awaiting bonus!

To get 100% gain is highly possible. The faster you book your ticket, the more gain you will achieve!!

hati manyak senang. Tak perlu Indicator itu ini. Tak perlu tunggu news/announcement. As long as we know who run CMSB?

Direct holding http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/1580621

Datuk Hanifah Hajar Taib 0.2%

Leija Taib 10.9%

Dato Sri Sulaiman Abdul Rahman Taib 8.7%

Dato Sri Mahmud Abu Bekir Taib 8.6%


Is this beautiful. Awaiting for bonus issue! Please come early!

according to RHB: Bonus issue and share split. Cahya Mata Sarawak (CMS) has proposed a 1-into-2 share split followed by a 2(subdivided share)-for-1 bonus share issue to raise the number of shares to 1,087m. This exercise, while neutral in terms of market capitalisation, is timely to improve the stock’s liquidity as its average trading volume stood at barely 700k shares per day over the past six months. on completion of the exercises, the share price will likely be adjusted to MYR3.26 from the MYR9.80 level, thus making it more affordable to retail investors.

1 become 2. 2 free 1.
Let say i hold 100 unit. 100 unit become 200 unit. 200 unit free 100 unit. In the end: 100 become 300.

Wooohooo! Real deal!

the share price will likely be adjusted to MYR3.26 from the MYR9.80 level

If the share price is 3.26, there will be new interest among retailers around i3 foruM!! WooooohooO!! 3.26 is cheap, right now 10, most cheapest bargain for your money! Buy buy buy! Buy one free how much? hahah. Don't care, as long as you want free bonus!!

@pang72

People will swarm CMSB after AGM approved the bonus issue. Hahaha. Buy while still cheap! 11.46 is the highest, lets see 12!

Congratulation jaijai. I got a friend. A senior of mine. He always said: "Biar kita jual dalam untung, jangan jual dalam rugi". He keep reminding me of that exact sentence. It make sense. I know he doesn't do analysis at all. He buys what he 'think' is good for him. And he is doing great!

Remember Warren Buffet rule?
1. Don't lose money.
2. Don't forget rule #1.

Sama saja dengan: "Biar kita jual dalam untung, jangan jual dalam rugi". Malaysia also got Warren Buffet ma! Hahaha.

This counter has sikit fans if compared to DSONIC. Kalau la Dsonic fans tukar kaunter lagi baik. Bonus issue for them!

@pang72. I'm thinking the same too. It took guts to be here, as DSONIC still the hottest talk in the town. Maybe one day, they will join us? Who knows??

@sosfinance. I'm not referring to you. I'm just referring to nich0las.

@nich0las. Siebold, author of "How Rich People Think."

Average people believe the markets are driven by logic and strategy. Rich people know they're driven by emotion and greed. - first by bomoh1

Care to look the Highest of DSonic? http://i.imgur.com/OUmPTVq.png

4.87.. I wonder if anybody bought at that price. At 2.82, it simply 40%++ paper loss. Kalau 10k, 4k sudah terbang.. Kalau 100k, 40k sudah hilang.. One of our friends sudah lepaskan 60k - http://i.imgur.com/yGxuAJ9.png. So, you better think deep to be "long term investor"...

Long term holder? If you buy before split, no wonder la you're the long term holder. If that some person buy some at RM4.67, Would you want to be the long term holder? Don't mislead others. It is bleeding. No doctor seems to cure the bleeding..

That's why la all the investors pegang ini counter kuat-kuat. So they can huat every year. hahaha..

wow. Less than 20%? I thought the lowest only around 30%. Is there any dividend given? Maybe the broken from DSonic can reclaim back their money there..

mk88. 7.35% up? congratulations maa! I can't touch that counter, as I only took the syariah compliance counter only. Heheh. But that's good for you. I'm waiting until CMSB announce the bonus issue.

mk88. Can you share with me, how much the low free float in KAF? Maybe we can extend the list??

this is the screenshot. He lost 60k. Can buy myvi for cash maa!! http://i.imgur.com/yGxuAJ9.png

If you're on TRADING side. It's better to play counter with high participation. Low free float counter is good too! Free float means that remaining shares that 'floating' for public to buy/collect. Want to know some good low free float counter?

1. DSONIC. 36% http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/ptres/22369.jsp
2. CMSB. 32% http://klse.i3investor.com/files/my/ptres/res22342.pdf
3. HLCAP can't confirmed
4. Ecoworld can't confirmed
5. Matrix 43% http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/ptres/22392.jsp

I am ex-Dsonic holder. Things get awry after Bursa announced the news. I found this "low free float" phrase being repeated so many times in dsonic forum. Now I know what is it.

This is my understanding. My English not so good, but I hope you understand.

Let take CMSB as example. Assuming that 32% of the shares being spread across the bourse. The 68% of share can't be easily 'moved' by Institutional player, the CEO or any main shareholder. Only 32% being traded everyday. It is good. And bad at same time. Just look at DSONIC, HLCAP and ECOWORLD. That is good. But someday/somehow there will be remembered legend like DSONIC.. Lost but not forgotten. One of the forumers there claimed he loss about 40k. Fewwhhh

Pembunuh naga. I kadang-kadang singgah sini juga. Apa khabar Protasco fan?

Pembunuh naga, I want to share some of my insight in INVESTING.

http://i.imgur.com/X1MDGXq.png

Any comment, please share with me. I'm holding none of the above list. Awaiting for bonus ISsue from CMSB..

Any sifu here.

I want some clarification on these matter: http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/securities/equities/trading/regulated-short-selling-rss/

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/cpteh/5748.jsp

1. Anybody can join in Short Selling?
2. I think Regulated Short Selling will kill the market, like Dsonic.
3. It just the same like sell first, buy second order in forex right?

another link in short selling: http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/securities/equities/trading/regulated-short-selling-rss/

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/cpteh/5748.jsp Can anybody participate in short selling??

dragonslayer, maybe you are alone after all. This counter is not liquid after all. I entered at 1.98 last week, but cabut cepat-cepat because it can't hold above 1.94. Small loses, but i've had enough with slow-kill.

If you want some enlightenment about wave, technical indicators, bla bla bla, u need to ask yourself. Are you an INVESTOR or TRADER. Trader make short position and willing to accept some losses if the market hit their stop loss. On the other hand: THere is INVESTOR. INvestor is very very very patience. They will not easily be disturbed by news, comment in i3 forums as long as the FUNDAMENTAL is FUN for him..

I am not an INVESTOR. For all investors out there, I envy you!

So, dragonslayer, if you're a true investor: relax and enjoy the fluctuation. No more asking for technical analysis. Technical analysis is for TRADERS. They want speedy money, and after that they left the counter..

Well, i am a newbies in KLSe. Started at Jan, cumulatively i make huge about 30%, lose about 40%, and i'm okay with it. No sweat, i'm just learning. It is very different than FOrex i've played before, but with DSonic, it's like KLse with leverage: same as forex eventually, hahahaha!