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2020-03-17 08:20 | Report Abuse
Sarifah tetap berjiwa IPP unapologetic angkuh dan liar
2020-03-17 08:06 | Report Abuse
Stay home n experience 1st hand if electricity is not necessity
2020-03-17 07:56 | Report Abuse
More drastic d gomen response d faster d Covid 19 is over
2020-03-17 07:47 | Report Abuse
Ok kini sini pun ada movement restriction for 2 weeks so u can experience 1st hand wat it is like n see if the Covid 19 impact is not overblown if the whole world is not over reacting...
2020-03-15 08:29 | Report Abuse
Posted by SarifahSelinder > Mar 14, 2020 8:58 AM | Report Abuse X
i3lurker
Do d depreciation way to counter chk n see
DK66 I3lurker, I extracted from the article below;
Jaks Resources – Peer Comparison With Mong Duong II
Author: DK66 | Publish date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019, 8:49 PM
Effective from 1st January 2018, a new accounting standard was adopted,
“A loan receivable was recognized for the future expected payments for the construction performance obligation. As the payments for the construction performance obligation occur over a 25-year term, a significant financing element was determined to exist which is accounted for under the effective interest rate method. As payments are collected from the customer over the term of the contract, consideration related to the construction performance obligation is bifurcated between the principal repayment of the long-term receivable and the related interest income. The other performance obligation to operate and maintain the facility is measured based on the capacity made available. “
Without using complicated accounting terminology, I simplified the accounting treatment of Tariff payments (TP) received as follows;
The balance of construction costs is placed under a receivable asset as “Loan receivable”(LR) and is gradually collected over the 25 years period through Tariff payments.
The company has determined that a portion of the tariff payments is in effect considered “interest income”(INT) at an effective interest rate based on the credit standing of the customer.
Balance tariff payments is recognized as “Revenue”(REV).
Therefore,
TP = LR + INT + REV
Earnings = REV + INT - Interest Expense - Fuel Costs - O&M costs
To put it simply, depreciation charges has been replaced by loan receivable (LR). Therefore, the capacity payment received would have to deduct the LR (also known as principal repayment) and the interest expense to determine the profit.
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i3lurker DK66
Hire Purchase principal repayments are cash but not income,
cannot be counted as earnings per share, goes to balance sheet
Hire purchase interest repayments are cash and income,
can be counted as earnings per share. "EPS"
I guess above part is easy to understand
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in BOT scenarios,
the utility is the "hirer/renter" and the IPP being Jaks is the "bank"
so principal cash from the renter/hirer/"EVN" to bank/Jaks for principal repayment is not income or earnings
similarly principal cash received by plant and forwarded to the "ultimate bank being Jaks" is repayment on principal,
it knocks off the "25 year hire purchase" loan given by Jaks/Bank to plant/EVN
hope this is satisfactory to your goodself.
14/03/2020 8:22 AM
14/03/2020 9:33 PM
2020-03-15 08:28 | Report Abuse
mf
D more dire d news d more drastic d gomen response d faster d Covid19 is over
D more likely a V shaped recovery
2020-03-14 18:12 | Report Abuse
O.. u got it ya bipartisan effort
2020-03-14 18:04 | Report Abuse
Tis FED cut dah di expected
Ni la d Bazooka
SarifahSelinder US markets rebound strongly wit Dow up 1900
US markets r very depend on US gomen a lot
And d US gomen is doing jz tat
SarifahSelinder US going to announce a BIPARTISAN response to Covid-19
13/03/2020 3:27 PM
SarifahSelinder Take it out of Trump's hands for goodness sake
US going to announce a BIPARTISAN response to Covid-19
13/03/2020 3:49 PM
14/03/2020 8:39 AM
2020-03-14 17:48 | Report Abuse
After d briefing stil mcm ni stil fluid je wat is d point of going for d briefing??
Salah JAKS IR or wat???
Worst off worst off
Yg only hope is OTB really has dealt wit d briefing adequately kat si n yg cara ni is menang d same way JAKS IR has entertained PBB IB analysts u know like 0 info n updates so tat PBB is in fact punishing JAKS wit TP of 1.13
Similarly in d dark PBB IB give low 1.13 TP
2020-03-14 17:36 | Report Abuse
Similarly in d dark PBB IB give low 1.13 TP
2020-03-14 17:32 | Report Abuse
Yg only hope is OTB really has dealt wit d briefing adequately kat si n yg cara ni is menang d same way JAKS IR has entertained PBB IB analysts u know like 0 info n updates so tat PBB is in fact punishing JAKS wit TP of 1.13
PBB TP 1.13 in d dark
2020-03-14 17:27 | Report Abuse
Worst off worst off
2020-03-14 17:27 | Report Abuse
Salah JAKS IR or wat???
2020-03-14 17:25 | Report Abuse
After d briefing stil mcm ni stil fluid je wat is d point of going for d briefing??
2020-03-14 17:18 | Report Abuse
Yg ni bloodly backdoor philip think he is Warren Buffett in fact he is cheating
Sarifah attended d AGM tapi tis briefing is an update on d moving status of d Hai Duong IPP (if follow wat u say why OTB don't jz attend AGM later why go for tis briefing now?? backdoor Philip u retard)
Sarifah attended d AGM
Unlike retard backdoor philip ni always going backdoor to meet insiders to get insider info u bloodly backdoor cheat
Sarifah really going to take ur going backdoor to seek for info by going for a drink wit JAKS Ex CFO Steven Ang case to SC jz an email away very easy
And u backdoor philip bloody anak haram u better go chk ur DNA cos Sarifah bros all of them really had a good time wit ur mother can't tell who is your father
Philip ( 2.3% fatality rate, 80% recovery rate age 10-40)
Yeah tetap liar and whatever bullshit, but fly by night shareholder. Don't even know what is AGM and don't even know how to ask relevant questions.
14/03/2020 10:38 AM
2020-03-14 09:26 | Report Abuse
U pun yawn yawn
Yes Sarifah pun didn't sleep well last night
Biar Sarifah take a nap dulu
i3lurker Sarifah
I have said enough.
REPEAT: -
Cash Flow from Vietnam to Jaks/Bank = Principal + Interest + Utility Business Income
so for Jaks EPS = Interest + Utility Business Income only
(cannot include Principal Repayment on Loan)
yawn
YAWN !!!!
14/03/2020 9:03 AM
2020-03-14 09:16 | Report Abuse
Sarifah tanya cos d briefing has not increased confidence instead d opposite
2020-03-14 09:14 | Report Abuse
Ok it Saturday Sunday u take ur time to think abt if u hv further things to post abt d briefing
Maybe u didn't sleep well last night
Sarifah shall leave u alone for now
2020-03-14 09:09 | Report Abuse
OTB
No wonder everyone attack u......
2020-03-14 09:04 | Report Abuse
Or... u hv something to hide or worst stil u told jz ur subscribers leaving ppl here high n dry
2020-03-14 09:02 | Report Abuse
OTB
ur posts on d briefing hv actually made ppl hv d impression tat u hv bin con by Andy
Kena clarity immediately
2020-03-14 08:58 | Report Abuse
i3lurker
Do d depreciation way to counter chk n see
2020-03-14 08:57 | Report Abuse
OTB
The feeling is u hv not dealt wit JAKS briefing adequately kat sini
Can u elaborate sikit further
Can start by telling from JAKS side who attended d briefing dan apa yg dah di kata mereka point by point precisely for a group interpretation utk semua kat sini
Tq
2020-03-14 08:44 | Report Abuse
DK66
Any refinements on ur past articles or firming up of ur profit projections after d JAKS briefing??
Ada ka d briefing increase ur confidence on ur profit projections???
2020-03-14 08:39 | Report Abuse
US markets rebound strongly wit Dow up 1900
US markets r very depend on US gomen a lot
And d US gomen is doing jz tat
SarifahSelinder US going to announce a BIPARTISAN response to Covid-19
13/03/2020 3:27 PM
SarifahSelinder Take it out of Trump's hands for goodness sake
US going to announce a BIPARTISAN response to Covid-19
13/03/2020 3:49 PM
2020-03-13 16:02 | Report Abuse
Good point
Tiger66 160 millions changing hand bukan dana institusi lagi siapa ? kesian retail shares bagi dia sapu habis !
13/03/2020 3:57 PM
2020-03-13 16:01 | Report Abuse
Taken for a wild roller coaster ride by dana insituisi yg target Hai Duong IPP selama ni
2020-03-13 15:51 | Report Abuse
Sarifah hope weaker hands dah cabut lari hv bin replaced by dana insituisi
2020-03-13 15:49 | Report Abuse
Take it out of Trump's hands for goodness sake
US going to announce a BIPARTISAN response to Covid-19
2020-03-13 15:40 | Report Abuse
Klau dpt beli murah shd hold out for max profit don't trade
2020-03-13 15:29 | Report Abuse
Sarifah tetap berjiwa IPP unapologetic angkuh dan liar
2020-03-13 15:28 | Report Abuse
Sarifah heart go to those who hv faith on JAKS thru out tapi kena forced selling
2020-03-13 15:27 | Report Abuse
US going to announce a BIPARTISAN response to Covid-19
2020-03-13 12:31 | Report Abuse
Tis is nut
Final tally going to b...
Deaths due to Covid-19 - 4500
Deaths due to forced selling - 25000
Get a hold of yourself!!!!!!
2020-03-13 08:18 | Report Abuse
Sarifah tetap berjiwa IPP unapologetic angkuh dan liar
2020-03-13 08:17 | Report Abuse
No futher comments as forum ni has more rubbish thn a rubbish dump
2020-03-13 08:15 | Report Abuse
More so apabila d epicenter has recovered....
2020-03-13 08:13 | Report Abuse
Absurd!!!!
It is jz absurd tat US markets r down so much apabila d financial crisis has not even hit
Apabila even d virus health crisis is stil jz a scare in US
US markets hv priced in a recession tat is going to last for years based on jz FEAR projection as no companies actually cam tell wat is d impact of Covid 19 on their profits
Absurd!!
2020-03-12 16:24 | Report Abuse
All world leaders r playing it overly carefully why not Andy...
2020-03-12 16:24 | Report Abuse
Yg ni a real possibility
qqq33333333 I guess after reading my posts, Ang wisely decided not to meet OTB (the talk too much retailer analysts)...........................
see...u stupid CEO not stupid.............
12/03/2020 4:21 PM
2020-03-12 16:23 | Report Abuse
In comparison wit wat r posted now qqq3 is mild relatively
2020-03-12 12:36 | Report Abuse
qqq3
Go take out a SMF facility
2020-03-12 12:34 | Report Abuse
OTB n kaki left
Wat price wil OTB n kaki come back?
2020-03-12 09:28 | Report Abuse
Klau betul
OTB kaki vs 4 IBs
Who hv more money?
2020-03-12 08:55 | Report Abuse
Don't u know ur saviour ur wife is a wanita?
Stock: [JAKS]: JAKS RESOURCES BERHAD
2020-03-17 12:11 | Report Abuse
Backed by IPP JAKS 1st to recover
JAKS one of leaders
JAKS one of the designated counters to save d world