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2017-11-23 09:07 | Report Abuse

Good start. Better if Trive stay low key. Then just move slow and steady.

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2017-11-22 18:53 | Report Abuse

@ newrookie
Next month QR won't show any drastic increase in revenue.
1. SPNB one just MOU, still need to form a new joint venture company with SPNB and finalise profit sharing then only can get green light to start work.

2. DFNET company already form, now need to look for location for new factory most probably in Johor. Once factory ready then only can start production run.

3. VSolar just finished fund raising exercise. Now in the last quarter. Their first order probably only come in during last month of current quarter or beginning of next quarter.

So don't hope to see any drastic increase in revenue within 6 months period.

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2017-11-22 18:38 | Report Abuse

Orang susah payah cari contrak, cari rakan perniagaan, cari pelanggan. Semua ini untuk cari keuntungan bagi pelabur seperti kita.

Apa yang kita buat. Duduk depan komputer, berjudi di Bursa. Bila kalah, hanya tahu nak maki syarikat.

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2017-11-22 18:23 | Report Abuse

So you are victim of FaizKl.
Thanks you for your concern, but I don't buy stock base on rumour or hot tips.

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2017-11-22 17:30 | Report Abuse

You should just call youself PeeMaster

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2017-11-22 17:29 | Report Abuse

Any TA sifu here can help to check whether floor already reach or not.

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2017-11-22 17:07 | Report Abuse

Looks like market sell down finally over.
Hopefully market start improving.

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2017-11-22 16:37 | Report Abuse

@ trade88
When 600+ share down, you are like this. Now 500+ share up you also like this. Who is the pitiful one?

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2017-11-22 14:37 | Report Abuse

You mean major shareholders want to con you with binus issue? You should just read all the announcement in bursa from 2015 until 2017 before you say this. This company had no major shareholder.

If you can own 2m unit, the next annual report will have your name.

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2017-11-22 14:20 | Report Abuse

There is no such thing as con stock.
You buy and sell stock in open market, the company not getting a cent from you. How to con you leh....

High volume because this counter is too hot (high demand) and too cheap.

This stock provide room for trader to trade, every 0.005 cent is 7%. Why don't you jump in to trade, why you wait.

Those so called trader or goreng sifu who just complain about their paper losses without taking advantage of the high volume and high fluctuation to make money shouldn't be here.

There is no need to average your stock to reduce your loss. Just keep the old one in your safe. Start a new trade. If afraid, then just do a small small trade. making RM100, RM200, RM300 or RM1k is not very difficult.

Market sentiment is slowly returning now. I am also back to my trading business again.

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2017-11-21 18:05 | Report Abuse

Yup, just stay aside unless you have cash to buy and hold. Most counter down. Current market sentiment is not suitable for trading. but for long term yes. Even for long term, I also don't want to buy now, will wait until sentiment better. No need to buy extreme low. Just buy low is enough.

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2017-11-21 12:17 | Report Abuse

What announcement?

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2017-11-21 12:16 | Report Abuse

Trader who want to make money from Trive, may check this out.

http://klse.i3investor.com/m/blog/SICStockPick/138813.jsp

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2017-11-21 11:51 | Report Abuse

market is generally bearish. fbmklci is in downtrend. might need to wait until situation improve.

better to stay sideline to wait and see.

Long Term investor had no need to worry, cause company growth is what we want to see.

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2017-11-21 08:56 | Report Abuse

My avg is only 0.095, I don't think it is high. Maybe you should just go and buy vsolar, they don't make profit, had to ask investor to subscribe to right issue to raise money, just JV with UTM to do R&D, not thinking of diversify to biomass and the best thing is their price is now RM0.13

I will just stick with Trive, cause they already spend huge losses in R&D for the last few years and have a complete range of solar solution, even China company is looking into JV with them to open factory to mass producing. For the last 3 qtr they have been making profit. With some many project in hand, any of the project take off will be very encouraging. Best of all price only RM0.08.

Now do you thing I am stupid and trap here?

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2017-11-21 00:46 | Report Abuse

I don't see any problem with the business or the direction where the company is heading to.

I wonder what the Trive price will be after 3 years? However I am more interested in the JVco with SPNB Apirasi cause if this JV is a success, then in future there will be more SPNB project to come.

SPNB Aspirasi, is a wholly owned subsidiary of Syarikat Perumahan Negara Berhad (“SPNB”), a Ministry of Finance Incorporated owned company under the supervision of Ministry of Finance.

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2017-11-21 00:34 | Report Abuse

LoseKing post:

Nov 20, 2017 03:17 PM | Report Abuse

Dun think so, oredi so mny project , tis small company hv no cash flow to run so many project, if they won again , afraid the price will goes towards more downtrend (to borrow money from traders)
1.1 bil contract for housing KL
60 mil for green tech with the China com
20 mil for Kertih project
150 mil orders from UTM , vsolar
100 mil orders from Hubei guang bo

Oredi mny above , where got so mny contract gifted to Trive , Santa Claus meh
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1.1b SPNB housing in KL
https://focus.iproperty.com.my/news/3057/trive-property-group-signs-mou-with-tenaga-meriah-for-spnb-affordable-housing-in-kl-with-gdv-of-rm11-billion

TMSB was appointed Turnkey Contractor to Design, Built & Completion Handover.
- Only contractor work, get progressive payment as work are completed.

SPNB Aspirasi, is a wholly owned subsidiary of Syarikat Perumahan Negara Berhad (“SPNB”)

TMSB, has secured a Letter of Intent from SPNB Aspirasi Sdn Bhd (“SPNB Aspirasi”) to form a Joint Venture company (“JVCo”). TMSB will hold a substantial shareholding in the said JVCo

The Key here is to wait for announcement of the forming of the new JVCo and % of shareholding.
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60m for green tech with China com
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5600061

This one is to JV to form a new company call DFNET with 50/50 between Trive and JFNET. Initial share capital is 10m, 2nd phase is 30m and 3rd phase is 20m. Total investment is 60m share equally, therefore Trive investment is 30m only.

This JV is to setup manufacturing plant in Malaysia to produce solar related products to supply to Fortunate Solar Technology Ltd, UTM / VSolar (150 mil orders from UTM , vsolar), Hubei Guang Bo (100 mil orders from Hubei guang bo).

Why ppl look for Trive? I believe Trive have the technical know how and have a number of patent or copyright under its name. In business that involve in R&D, their Intellectual Property (IP) is the most valuable asset. Even Vsolar had to look for Trive to supply to them.
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20m for Kertih project
https://www.nst.com.my/business/2017/08/266606/trive-property-leverage-kertih-project

https://www.google.com.my/maps/place/Bandar+Baru+Kertih+Jaya,+24300+Kerteh,+Terengganu/@4.5321333,103.4203566,5572m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x31c873c167024267:0x40386e376a99a006!2sBandar+Baru+Kertih+Jaya,+24300+Kerteh,+Terengganu!3b1!8m2!3d4.53432!4d103.4245609!3m4!1s0x31c873c167024267:0x40386e376a99a006!8m2!3d4.53432!4d103.4245609?hl=en

This is to develop residential house on their own land near Bandar Baru Kertih Jaya. This one need a lot of money so need to issue PP to raise 60.5m. Trive will develop 1st phase to test water. If good respond, then continue 2nd phase and 3rd phase. If not good, then sell land.

But don't worry, the PP subscribe do not need to return back one.

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2017-11-19 22:18 | Report Abuse

@ Tan Seow Meng
Whenever a company give bonus to mother share, warrant will get bonus with the same ratio as mother share.

Warrant won't have an effect to dilute share price because they need to be exercise to become a mother share and the exercised price will go to the company as a working capital.

However company don't usually adjust their warrant exercise price during bonus issue. In case of Trive reducing the exercise price for warrant-b is a double bonus to warrant holder.

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2017-11-18 23:53 | Report Abuse

Don't be scare off by those naysayer who only take pleasure in other misery.

Ask yourself, how much holding do you have in your hand? Will you be able to cause share to drop another level with your pitiful number of share in hand? Or will you be able to make the share to move up? There are 20m unit waiting at each level.

To be investor you need to learn how to value a company and alway in a lookout to identity undervalue company.

Of course, if you want to be trader, then it just follow what newrookie say : goreng stock no FA & no TA but who care as long can make money

Stock: [TRIVE]: TRIVE PROPERTY GROUP BHD
Nov 18, 2017 08:16 AM | Report Abuse

After cut loss at 7.5c & I get my capital from HOOVER & MJPERAK definitely I will buy again TRIVE next week. Follow by (SUMATEC-goreng stock no FA & no TA but who care as long can make money), (VIZIONE-awarded RM800m++ project), (TIGER-Telaris Alam Impian Township, Condo at Gombak, Seri Kembangan & Cheras), (MRCB-waiting money from EDL disposed + PRU14 goreng stock), (OPCOM-check Calvin article for further detail) & (DNEX-technical rebound + sudah lama tidur).

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2017-11-18 23:33 | Report Abuse

Try to google Kertih Project to find out what was happening there.

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2017-11-18 23:30 | Report Abuse

Usually private placement will dilute share price cause they are alway issue to private investor at a 10% discount. However in our case is a bit unique in the sense that private placement is 50% premium.

The private placement will have a thicken effect instead of dilute.

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2017-11-18 23:25 | Report Abuse

Below is press release after EGM to get mandate from Shareholder for the above Private Placement.

https://www.nst.com.my/business/2017/08/266606/trive-property-leverage-kertih-project

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2017-11-18 23:23 | Report Abuse

https://themalaysianreserve.com/2017/06/08/trive-to-raise-rm60m-for-kerteh-township-via-share-issuance/

Above is a link to Old news, but what I want to inform is not about old new but about the Private Placement to Macquarie Bank.

During the time of Proposal.
Trive NOSH = 1.34b
Propose to Issue additional share by : 37.41%
Propose to raise : RM60.5m

Now let do some calculation to get the Private Placement (PP) Issue Price.

No of new share issue for PP = 1,340,000,000 x 37.41/100 = 501,294,000
Issue price per unit for PP = RM60,500,000 / 501,294,000 = RM0.12

Foreign Investor willing to Invest in Trive at RM0.12 and the current price is RM0.08
This represent RM0.04 cents differences, or 50% discount of current market price.
Is this Macquarie Bank crazy or am I crazy? What value do they see in this Trive?

If you are a major shareholder, would you be sitting down quietly while your company stock where manipulated down? Will the Foreign Fund still want to continue invest in your company if they are paying 50% premium?

Foreign Fund manager only interested to invest in company that had forecasted growth. If I am the major shareholder or director, I won't be feeling easy and just sitting still to wait to receive call from Macquarie Bank.

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2017-11-18 07:50 | Report Abuse

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2017/11/17/bank-negara-banks-able-to--withstand-slowdown-in-property-segment/

This is a piece of good news, Bank are doing something to help in property segment.

Anyway, Trive into public housing segment (SPNB) is a right choice. Public houses always in shortage. Don't believe, try go and apply for one.

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2017-11-18 07:47 | Report Abuse

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2017/11/18/property-imbalance-growing-wider/

But don't worry, Trive are not developer but contracting work that why you see some contract are being terminated.

Why terminate? Developer no money to pay, you still do to built for them meh?

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2017-11-18 07:44 | Report Abuse

To verify naysayer, just check their comment, you will discover they say the same thing at every blog.

Do homework and research more. With internet it is now so easy to do research. We are in living in North Korea where all information are control and every people are control by state media.

Rumour = 100% risk.
Business = Calculated risk.

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2017-11-18 07:38 | Report Abuse

Don't listen to all the naysayer lah. They are just waiting for someone to fall into their trap so they can buy cheaper.

Ask yourself why they are still around here? they should have cut loss and run much early.

Do your own homework to understand the business you invest in. Investment is not risky, it is only the people who buy and sell on rumour that make investment risky.

Last 3 days was due to foreign investor sell off. Now after BNM announce economy grew by 6.3% in Q3, foreign investor will reenter market again.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2017/11/17/economy-grows-at-faster-pace-of-6pt2pct-in-q3/

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2017-11-17 21:01 | Report Abuse

* should be called price hedge

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2017-11-17 20:59 | Report Abuse

what UncleJohn said is true. what important is oil price range not daily up and down. Cause they sell at price that they peg not daily price.

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2017-11-17 20:55 | Report Abuse

hahaha... Moon,
computer avg price is just number only. it is not so important. What important is how much you invested, and how must is your holding value now.

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2017-11-17 20:28 | Report Abuse

your avg should be 0.094
I think you must be using maybank trading account.

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2017-11-17 19:27 | Report Abuse

the unit you bought too low. after average, rounding will return u back to 0.11c

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2017-11-17 18:58 | Report Abuse

@ Moon13_86, u beli berapa unit at berapa harga?

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2017-11-17 17:04 | Report Abuse

Relax lah... my stock trading business also not doing very good. ikan bilis also hard to catch.
Yesterday contra only RM500, today even worst only RM250.
Tonite had to eat porridge.

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2017-11-17 16:58 | Report Abuse

* school holiday next week

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2017-11-17 16:58 | Report Abuse

I thought school holiday not is next, you ponteng school today arr...

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2017-11-17 16:57 | Report Abuse

hahaha... @ scholar, you read too much books already.

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2017-11-17 16:55 | Report Abuse

Anyway, In stock only one truth. If you buy low, there is nothing to worry.
Every stock have its low point.
And stock don't stay low for long. It had to go to a level where people think its fair value is.

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2017-11-17 16:53 | Report Abuse

We are only small player (ikan bilis). Who gonna help us if we don't help each other.
Not like we can change the course of the market. We are only swim with the current.

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2017-11-17 16:40 | Report Abuse

Must have a little ambition.

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2017-11-17 16:39 | Report Abuse

@Kenifo
If you can hold until 0.12, why not hold until 0.15.

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2017-11-17 16:36 | Report Abuse

Relax, no angry, no cursing cursing...
Later God of prosperity run away...
Time will cure everything.

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2017-11-17 16:31 | Report Abuse

Now my avg is 0.095. I am holding it not selling.

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2017-11-17 16:28 | Report Abuse

Watch and see first

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2017-11-17 16:26 | Report Abuse

Shark's only create excitement. Like panic buy and panic sale then hope ikan bilis continue their effort.

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2017-11-17 16:23 | Report Abuse

Hopefully tomorrow can see a new level for trive.
I don't think those who buy at 0.08 today want to sell at 0.075 tomorrow. That would be very stupid.
Beside they already tested the 0.075 this whole morning yet no one get tricked. So now got to settle at 0.08
No fish, prawn also can.