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2019-09-26 14:10 | Report Abuse
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/6292805 Hahahahaha John on board with 200lot Geco with 0 hahahahah
2019-09-26 13:19 | Report Abuse
poor John and Geco......so sad hahahaha
2019-09-26 12:09 | Report Abuse
Geco loser with miss the trend and bus hahahahahah
2019-09-26 11:58 | Report Abuse
Geco loser with miss the trend and bus hahahahahah
2019-09-26 09:26 | Report Abuse
Results
Higher profit - Bumi Armada posted a net profit of RM78.2m in 2Q19 compared to a net loss of RM585.5m in 2Q18, due to impairments totalling RM478.9m, and normalised loss of RM106.6m. The higher earnings came following higher contribution from Armada Kraken FPSO Armada Olombendo FPSO.
Lower revenue – 2Q19 revenue declined 18% YoY to RM535.6m following amid flat performance by Floating Production & Operation (FPO) at RM443.6m and lower revenue from Offshore Marine Services (OMS) (-56% YoY to RM92m due to completion of the LukOil project in December 2018).
Better QoQ – Compared with the previous quarter, 2Q19 normalised net profit rose 16% QoQ on the back of a 9% QoQ revenue growth as FPO revenue climbed 4% QoQ while OMS jumped 39% QoQ as OSV fleet utilisation rate improved to 51% from 39% in 1Q19 due to higher demand in Malaysia.
Improved margins – Operating margin improved to 38% from 34% in 1Q19 while net margin increased to 15% from 13% in the previous quarter. The improvement in 2Q19 came after FPO and OMS segmental margins rose to 63% and 24% from 60% and 14% respectively in 1Q19.
Steady orderbook – Orderbook remains steady at RM18.9b (FPO: RM17.9bn, OMS: RM1bn) another RM9.9bn worth of potential extension. This will sustain the group’s revenue for the next few years.
Earnings Outlook/Revision
Exceeded expectation – 1H19 normalised net profit of RM145.9m grew 36% YoY and achieved 72% of our full year forecast of RM201.7m while six months revenue dropped 18% YoY to RM 1.03b and achieved 38% of our FY19 forecast.
Forecasts lifted – We are raising our EPS forecast for FY19 and FY20 by 55% and 17% respectively following improved efficiency and profit margins but keeping our revenue estimates.
Valuation & Recommendation
Maintain BUY call with a higher target price of RM0.50 (from RM0.47) based on +1 SD to its 3-year average P/B. Risks remain its high debt and gearing level despite the recent refinancing.
Potential upside is the possible compensation of US$280m (>RM1b) from the Armada Claire court case and judgement is expected in 4Q19.
Source: JF Apex Securities Research - 10 Sept 201
2019-09-26 09:24 | Report Abuse
Results
Higher profit - Bumi Armada posted a net profit of RM78.2m in 2Q19 compared to a net loss of RM585.5m in 2Q18, due to impairments totalling RM478.9m, and normalised loss of RM106.6m. The higher earnings came following higher contribution from Armada Kraken FPSO Armada Olombendo FPSO.
Lower revenue – 2Q19 revenue declined 18% YoY to RM535.6m following amid flat performance by Floating Production & Operation (FPO) at RM443.6m and lower revenue from Offshore Marine Services (OMS) (-56% YoY to RM92m due to completion of the LukOil project in December 2018).
Better QoQ – Compared with the previous quarter, 2Q19 normalised net profit rose 16% QoQ on the back of a 9% QoQ revenue growth as FPO revenue climbed 4% QoQ while OMS jumped 39% QoQ as OSV fleet utilisation rate improved to 51% from 39% in 1Q19 due to higher demand in Malaysia.
Improved margins – Operating margin improved to 38% from 34% in 1Q19 while net margin increased to 15% from 13% in the previous quarter. The improvement in 2Q19 came after FPO and OMS segmental margins rose to 63% and 24% from 60% and 14% respectively in 1Q19.
Steady orderbook – Orderbook remains steady at RM18.9b (FPO: RM17.9bn, OMS: RM1bn) another RM9.9bn worth of potential extension. This will sustain the group’s revenue for the next few years.
Earnings Outlook/Revision
Exceeded expectation – 1H19 normalised net profit of RM145.9m grew 36% YoY and achieved 72% of our full year forecast of RM201.7m while six months revenue dropped 18% YoY to RM 1.03b and achieved 38% of our FY19 forecast.
Forecasts lifted – We are raising our EPS forecast for FY19 and FY20 by 55% and 17% respectively following improved efficiency and profit margins but keeping our revenue estimates.
Valuation & Recommendation
Maintain BUY call with a higher target price of RM0.50 (from RM0.47) based on +1 SD to its 3-year average P/B. Risks remain its high debt and gearing level despite the recent refinancing.
Potential upside is the possible compensation of US$280m (>RM1b) from the Armada Claire court case and judgement is expected in 4Q19.
Source: JF Apex Securities Research - 10 Sept 201
2019-09-26 09:19 | Report Abuse
Results
Higher profit - Bumi Armada posted a net profit of RM78.2m in 2Q19 compared to a net loss of RM585.5m in 2Q18, due to impairments totalling RM478.9m, and normalised loss of RM106.6m. The higher earnings came following higher contribution from Armada Kraken FPSO Armada Olombendo FPSO.
Lower revenue – 2Q19 revenue declined 18% YoY to RM535.6m following amid flat performance by Floating Production & Operation (FPO) at RM443.6m and lower revenue from Offshore Marine Services (OMS) (-56% YoY to RM92m due to completion of the LukOil project in December 2018).
Better QoQ – Compared with the previous quarter, 2Q19 normalised net profit rose 16% QoQ on the back of a 9% QoQ revenue growth as FPO revenue climbed 4% QoQ while OMS jumped 39% QoQ as OSV fleet utilisation rate improved to 51% from 39% in 1Q19 due to higher demand in Malaysia.
Improved margins – Operating margin improved to 38% from 34% in 1Q19 while net margin increased to 15% from 13% in the previous quarter. The improvement in 2Q19 came after FPO and OMS segmental margins rose to 63% and 24% from 60% and 14% respectively in 1Q19.
Steady orderbook – Orderbook remains steady at RM18.9b (FPO: RM17.9bn, OMS: RM1bn) another RM9.9bn worth of potential extension. This will sustain the group’s revenue for the next few years.
Earnings Outlook/Revision
Exceeded expectation – 1H19 normalised net profit of RM145.9m grew 36% YoY and achieved 72% of our full year forecast of RM201.7m while six months revenue dropped 18% YoY to RM 1.03b and achieved 38% of our FY19 forecast.
Forecasts lifted – We are raising our EPS forecast for FY19 and FY20 by 55% and 17% respectively following improved efficiency and profit margins but keeping our revenue estimates.
Valuation & Recommendation
Maintain BUY call with a higher target price of RM0.50 (from RM0.47) based on +1 SD to its 3-year average P/B. Risks remain its high debt and gearing level despite the recent refinancing.
Potential upside is the possible compensation of US$280m (>RM1b) from the Armada Claire court case and judgement is expected in 4Q19.
Source: JF Apex Securities Research - 10 Sept 2019
2019-09-26 09:19 | Report Abuse
Results
Higher profit - Bumi Armada posted a net profit of RM78.2m in 2Q19 compared to a net loss of RM585.5m in 2Q18, due to impairments totalling RM478.9m, and normalised loss of RM106.6m. The higher earnings came following higher contribution from Armada Kraken FPSO Armada Olombendo FPSO.
Lower revenue – 2Q19 revenue declined 18% YoY to RM535.6m following amid flat performance by Floating Production & Operation (FPO) at RM443.6m and lower revenue from Offshore Marine Services (OMS) (-56% YoY to RM92m due to completion of the LukOil project in December 2018).
Better QoQ – Compared with the previous quarter, 2Q19 normalised net profit rose 16% QoQ on the back of a 9% QoQ revenue growth as FPO revenue climbed 4% QoQ while OMS jumped 39% QoQ as OSV fleet utilisation rate improved to 51% from 39% in 1Q19 due to higher demand in Malaysia.
Improved margins – Operating margin improved to 38% from 34% in 1Q19 while net margin increased to 15% from 13% in the previous quarter. The improvement in 2Q19 came after FPO and OMS segmental margins rose to 63% and 24% from 60% and 14% respectively in 1Q19.
Steady orderbook – Orderbook remains steady at RM18.9b (FPO: RM17.9bn, OMS: RM1bn) another RM9.9bn worth of potential extension. This will sustain the group’s revenue for the next few years.
Earnings Outlook/Revision
Exceeded expectation – 1H19 normalised net profit of RM145.9m grew 36% YoY and achieved 72% of our full year forecast of RM201.7m while six months revenue dropped 18% YoY to RM 1.03b and achieved 38% of our FY19 forecast.
Forecasts lifted – We are raising our EPS forecast for FY19 and FY20 by 55% and 17% respectively following improved efficiency and profit margins but keeping our revenue estimates.
Valuation & Recommendation
Maintain BUY call with a higher target price of RM0.50 (from RM0.47) based on +1 SD to its 3-year average P/B. Risks remain its high debt and gearing level despite the recent refinancing.
Potential upside is the possible compensation of US$280m (>RM1b) from the Armada Claire court case and judgement is expected in 4Q19.
Source: JF Apex Securities Research - 10 Sept 2019
2019-09-26 09:19 | Report Abuse
Results
Higher profit - Bumi Armada posted a net profit of RM78.2m in 2Q19 compared to a net loss of RM585.5m in 2Q18, due to impairments totalling RM478.9m, and normalised loss of RM106.6m. The higher earnings came following higher contribution from Armada Kraken FPSO Armada Olombendo FPSO.
Lower revenue – 2Q19 revenue declined 18% YoY to RM535.6m following amid flat performance by Floating Production & Operation (FPO) at RM443.6m and lower revenue from Offshore Marine Services (OMS) (-56% YoY to RM92m due to completion of the LukOil project in December 2018).
Better QoQ – Compared with the previous quarter, 2Q19 normalised net profit rose 16% QoQ on the back of a 9% QoQ revenue growth as FPO revenue climbed 4% QoQ while OMS jumped 39% QoQ as OSV fleet utilisation rate improved to 51% from 39% in 1Q19 due to higher demand in Malaysia.
Improved margins – Operating margin improved to 38% from 34% in 1Q19 while net margin increased to 15% from 13% in the previous quarter. The improvement in 2Q19 came after FPO and OMS segmental margins rose to 63% and 24% from 60% and 14% respectively in 1Q19.
Steady orderbook – Orderbook remains steady at RM18.9b (FPO: RM17.9bn, OMS: RM1bn) another RM9.9bn worth of potential extension. This will sustain the group’s revenue for the next few years.
Earnings Outlook/Revision
Exceeded expectation – 1H19 normalised net profit of RM145.9m grew 36% YoY and achieved 72% of our full year forecast of RM201.7m while six months revenue dropped 18% YoY to RM 1.03b and achieved 38% of our FY19 forecast.
Forecasts lifted – We are raising our EPS forecast for FY19 and FY20 by 55% and 17% respectively following improved efficiency and profit margins but keeping our revenue estimates.
Valuation & Recommendation
Maintain BUY call with a higher target price of RM0.50 (from RM0.47) based on +1 SD to its 3-year average P/B. Risks remain its high debt and gearing level despite the recent refinancing.
Potential upside is the possible compensation of US$280m (>RM1b) from the Armada Claire court case and judgement is expected in 4Q19.
Source: JF Apex Securities Research - 10 Sept 2019
2019-09-26 09:11 | Report Abuse
Results
Higher profit - Bumi Armada posted a net profit of RM78.2m in 2Q19 compared to a net loss of RM585.5m in 2Q18, due to impairments totalling RM478.9m, and normalised loss of RM106.6m. The higher earnings came following higher contribution from Armada Kraken FPSO Armada Olombendo FPSO.
Lower revenue – 2Q19 revenue declined 18% YoY to RM535.6m following amid flat performance by Floating Production & Operation (FPO) at RM443.6m and lower revenue from Offshore Marine Services (OMS) (-56% YoY to RM92m due to completion of the LukOil project in December 2018).
Better QoQ – Compared with the previous quarter, 2Q19 normalised net profit rose 16% QoQ on the back of a 9% QoQ revenue growth as FPO revenue climbed 4% QoQ while OMS jumped 39% QoQ as OSV fleet utilisation rate improved to 51% from 39% in 1Q19 due to higher demand in Malaysia.
Improved margins – Operating margin improved to 38% from 34% in 1Q19 while net margin increased to 15% from 13% in the previous quarter. The improvement in 2Q19 came after FPO and OMS segmental margins rose to 63% and 24% from 60% and 14% respectively in 1Q19.
Steady orderbook – Orderbook remains steady at RM18.9b (FPO: RM17.9bn, OMS: RM1bn) another RM9.9bn worth of potential extension. This will sustain the group’s revenue for the next few years.
Earnings Outlook/Revision
Exceeded expectation – 1H19 normalised net profit of RM145.9m grew 36% YoY and achieved 72% of our full year forecast of RM201.7m while six months revenue dropped 18% YoY to RM 1.03b and achieved 38% of our FY19 forecast.
Forecasts lifted – We are raising our EPS forecast for FY19 and FY20 by 55% and 17% respectively following improved efficiency and profit margins but keeping our revenue estimates.
Valuation & Recommendation
Maintain BUY call with a higher target price of RM0.50 (from RM0.47) based on +1 SD to its 3-year average P/B. Risks remain its high debt and gearing level despite the recent refinancing.
Potential upside is the possible compensation of US$280m (>RM1b) from the Armada Claire court case and judgement is expected in 4Q19.
Source: JF Apex Securities Research - 10 Sept 2019
2019-09-26 08:39 | Report Abuse
Results
Higher profit - Bumi Armada posted a net profit of RM78.2m in 2Q19 compared to a net loss of RM585.5m in 2Q18, due to impairments totalling RM478.9m, and normalised loss of RM106.6m. The higher earnings came following higher contribution from Armada Kraken FPSO Armada Olombendo FPSO.
Lower revenue – 2Q19 revenue declined 18% YoY to RM535.6m following amid flat performance by Floating Production & Operation (FPO) at RM443.6m and lower revenue from Offshore Marine Services (OMS) (-56% YoY to RM92m due to completion of the LukOil project in December 2018).
Better QoQ – Compared with the previous quarter, 2Q19 normalised net profit rose 16% QoQ on the back of a 9% QoQ revenue growth as FPO revenue climbed 4% QoQ while OMS jumped 39% QoQ as OSV fleet utilisation rate improved to 51% from 39% in 1Q19 due to higher demand in Malaysia.
Improved margins – Operating margin improved to 38% from 34% in 1Q19 while net margin increased to 15% from 13% in the previous quarter. The improvement in 2Q19 came after FPO and OMS segmental margins rose to 63% and 24% from 60% and 14% respectively in 1Q19.
Steady orderbook – Orderbook remains steady at RM18.9b (FPO: RM17.9bn, OMS: RM1bn) another RM9.9bn worth of potential extension. This will sustain the group’s revenue for the next few years.
Earnings Outlook/Revision
Exceeded expectation – 1H19 normalised net profit of RM145.9m grew 36% YoY and achieved 72% of our full year forecast of RM201.7m while six months revenue dropped 18% YoY to RM 1.03b and achieved 38% of our FY19 forecast.
Forecasts lifted – We are raising our EPS forecast for FY19 and FY20 by 55% and 17% respectively following improved efficiency and profit margins but keeping our revenue estimates.
Valuation & Recommendation
Maintain BUY call with a higher target price of RM0.50 (from RM0.47) based on +1 SD to its 3-year average P/B. Risks remain its high debt and gearing level despite the recent refinancing.
Potential upside is the possible compensation of US$280m (>RM1b) from the Armada Claire court case and judgement is expected in 4Q19.
Source: JF Apex Securities Research - 10 Sept 2019
2019-09-26 08:20 | Report Abuse
Results
Higher profit - Bumi Armada posted a net profit of RM78.2m in 2Q19 compared to a net loss of RM585.5m in 2Q18, due to impairments totalling RM478.9m, and normalised loss of RM106.6m. The higher earnings came following higher contribution from Armada Kraken FPSO Armada Olombendo FPSO.
Lower revenue – 2Q19 revenue declined 18% YoY to RM535.6m following amid flat performance by Floating Production & Operation (FPO) at RM443.6m and lower revenue from Offshore Marine Services (OMS) (-56% YoY to RM92m due to completion of the LukOil project in December 2018).
Better QoQ – Compared with the previous quarter, 2Q19 normalised net profit rose 16% QoQ on the back of a 9% QoQ revenue growth as FPO revenue climbed 4% QoQ while OMS jumped 39% QoQ as OSV fleet utilisation rate improved to 51% from 39% in 1Q19 due to higher demand in Malaysia.
Improved margins – Operating margin improved to 38% from 34% in 1Q19 while net margin increased to 15% from 13% in the previous quarter. The improvement in 2Q19 came after FPO and OMS segmental margins rose to 63% and 24% from 60% and 14% respectively in 1Q19.
Steady orderbook – Orderbook remains steady at RM18.9b (FPO: RM17.9bn, OMS: RM1bn) another RM9.9bn worth of potential extension. This will sustain the group’s revenue for the next few years.
Earnings Outlook/Revision
Exceeded expectation – 1H19 normalised net profit of RM145.9m grew 36% YoY and achieved 72% of our full year forecast of RM201.7m while six months revenue dropped 18% YoY to RM 1.03b and achieved 38% of our FY19 forecast.
Forecasts lifted – We are raising our EPS forecast for FY19 and FY20 by 55% and 17% respectively following improved efficiency and profit margins but keeping our revenue estimates.
Valuation & Recommendation
Maintain BUY call with a higher target price of RM0.50 (from RM0.47) based on +1 SD to its 3-year average P/B. Risks remain its high debt and gearing level despite the recent refinancing.
Potential upside is the possible compensation of US$280m (>RM1b) from the Armada Claire court case and judgement is expected in 4Q19.
Source: JF Apex Securities Research - 10 Sept 2019
2019-09-26 08:19 | Report Abuse
In fact johnchew and Geco who made baseless comment. Are people really childish, there pretend expert In share market and actually there no nothing every time what there said is wrong and never fulfill, there just talk talk talk, with 200lot share @ 200? Hahahaha
2019-09-26 07:41 | Report Abuse
In fact johnchew and Geco who made baseless comment. Are people really childish, there pretend expert In share market and actually there no nothing every time what there said is wrong and never fulfill, there just talk talk talk, with 200lot share @ 200? Hahahaha
2019-09-25 23:47 | Report Abuse
Geco do more research not baseless talk
2019-09-25 15:40 | Report Abuse
7300 You no need to say anything baseless
2019-09-25 11:18 | Report Abuse
4574 now all share buy by me don’t made empty talk here
2019-09-25 10:50 | Report Abuse
Said thing that can’t prove everybody know , I can said I got 100b us will buy armada soon at 1.50
2019-09-25 10:48 | Report Abuse
4574 talker, you sold 0.000000000001shares at 0.28,Hahahaha only left talk
2019-09-24 00:45 | Report Abuse
Johnchew and Geco only talker here stupid loser talker with no share .......... 200 John got hahahaha
2019-09-23 23:02 | Report Abuse
John miss the boat so sad hahahaha
2019-09-23 20:32 | Report Abuse
hahaha loser John stupid John no share John
2019-09-23 18:00 | Report Abuse
Johnchew is loser only made empty talk here and there with no shares and no brain Johnchew is pig
2019-09-23 16:22 | Report Abuse
John is super loser fake comment
2019-09-23 15:24 | Report Abuse
We maintain OVERWEIGHT on the sector as prospects have begun to brighten with rising asset utilization globally which supported service providers’ improving results. While we have BUY calls for Bumi Armada, MISC, Sapura Energy and Velesto Energy, our top picks are still companies with stable and recurring earnings such as Serba Dinamik and Dialog Group. We like the recurring income business model of Dialog and Serba Dinamik, which are involved in operation and maintenance services while Dialog’s earnings visibility is further secured by the Pengerang Deepwater Terminal project with its enlarged buffer zone. As Bumi Armada’s share price has risen by 50% since our recommendation upgrade last month, we have raised its fair value further to RM0.42/share, further reducing our sum-of-parts discount of 20%.
Source: AmInvest Research - 23 Sept 2019
2019-09-23 15:11 | Report Abuse
200 unit ! Hahahahahahahahaha loser
2019-09-23 15:11 | Report Abuse
We maintain OVERWEIGHT on the sector as prospects have begun to brighten with rising asset utilization globally which supported service providers’ improving results. While we have BUY calls for Bumi Armada, MISC, Sapura Energy and Velesto Energy, our top picks are still companies with stable and recurring earnings such as Serba Dinamik and Dialog Group. We like the recurring income business model of Dialog and Serba Dinamik, which are involved in operation and maintenance services while Dialog’s earnings visibility is further secured by the Pengerang Deepwater Terminal project with its enlarged buffer zone. As Bumi Armada’s share price has risen by 50% since our recommendation upgrade last month, we have raised its fair value further to RM0.42/share, further reducing our sum-of-parts discount of 20%.
Source: AmInvest Research - 23 Sept 2019
2019-09-23 15:07 | Report Abuse
We maintain OVERWEIGHT on the sector as prospects have begun to brighten with rising asset utilization globally which supported service providers’ improving results. While we have BUY calls for Bumi Armada, MISC, Sapura Energy and Velesto Energy, our top picks are still companies with stable and recurring earnings such as Serba Dinamik and Dialog Group. We like the recurring income business model of Dialog and Serba Dinamik, which are involved in operation and maintenance services while Dialog’s earnings visibility is further secured by the Pengerang Deepwater Terminal project with its enlarged buffer zone. As Bumi Armada’s share price has risen by 50% since our recommendation upgrade last month, we have raised its fair value further to RM0.42/share, further reducing our sum-of-parts discount of 20%.
Source: AmInvest Research - 23 Sept 2019
2019-09-23 15:04 | Report Abuse
We maintain OVERWEIGHT on the sector as prospects have begun to brighten with rising asset utilization globally which supported service providers’ improving results. While we have BUY calls for Bumi Armada, MISC, Sapura Energy and Velesto Energy, our top picks are still companies with stable and recurring earnings such as Serba Dinamik and Dialog Group. We like the recurring income business model of Dialog and Serba Dinamik, which are involved in operation and maintenance services while Dialog’s earnings visibility is further secured by the Pengerang Deepwater Terminal project with its enlarged buffer zone. As Bumi Armada’s share price has risen by 50% since our recommendation upgrade last month, we have raised its fair value further to RM0.42/share, further reducing our sum-of-parts discount of 20%.
Source: AmInvest Research - 23 Sept 2019
2019-09-23 15:04 | Report Abuse
Johnchew Geco Robert areiloser only made empty talk here and there with no shares and no brain allare
pig
2019-09-23 15:01 | Report Abuse
Pity John no share when armada uptrend
2019-09-23 15:01 | Report Abuse
Johnchew Geco Robert areiloser only made empty talk here and there with no shares and no brain allare
pig
2019-09-23 15:00 | Report Abuse
We maintain OVERWEIGHT on the sector as prospects have begun to brighten with rising asset utilization globally which supported service providers’ improving results. While we have BUY calls for Bumi Armada, MISC, Sapura Energy and Velesto Energy, our top picks are still companies with stable and recurring earnings such as Serba Dinamik and Dialog Group. We like the recurring income business model of Dialog and Serba Dinamik, which are involved in operation and maintenance services while Dialog’s earnings visibility is further secured by the Pengerang Deepwater Terminal project with its enlarged buffer zone. As Bumi Armada’s share price has risen by 50% since our recommendation upgrade last month, we have raised its fair value further to RM0.42/share, further reducing our sum-of-parts discount of 20%.
Source: AmInvest Research - 23 Sept 2019
2019-09-23 14:59 | Report Abuse
We maintain OVERWEIGHT on the sector as prospects have begun to brighten with rising asset utilization globally which supported service providers’ improving results. While we have BUY calls for Bumi Armada, MISC, Sapura Energy and Velesto Energy, our top picks are still companies with stable and recurring earnings such as Serba Dinamik and Dialog Group. We like the recurring income business model of Dialog and Serba Dinamik, which are involved in operation and maintenance services while Dialog’s earnings visibility is further secured by the Pengerang Deepwater Terminal project with its enlarged buffer zone. As Bumi Armada’s share price has risen by 50% since our recommendation upgrade last month, we have raised its fair value further to RM0.42/share, further reducing our sum-of-parts discount of 20%.
Source: AmInvest Research - 23 Sept 2019
Stock: [ARMADA]: BUMI ARMADA BERHAD
2019-09-26 15:04 | Report Abuse
Loser Geco........,,,still talk not buy hahahaha